To be honest I don't know if its been brought up, and google images brings me nothing so I wanted to know if either side actually has a logo, because you can't be a faction with a decent name and no cool logo, that would be stupid. So any description, or somebody making something up would be appreciated even if I fear them :v

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IIRC, Chatoyance had this one as the logo for PER.

Dunno if there's one for the other guys or if this is universal to all TCB stuff.

quick pic search resulted in this logo for HLF

https://fimfetch.net/story/45717/images/human_liberation_front_by_wastelandgunner-d4vy6fn.jpg

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Back in 2011 and 2012, before the invasion of trolls from 4Chan and Spacebattles began attacking the TCB, before many authors turned against each other in the ensuing chaos, all the Bureau writers were friends and comrades. All were excited to share this wonderful genre, and they riffed on each other's ideas and concepts. They also included elements of each other's stories in their own works - to show respect, to create a common and connected reality, and in friendship and mutual support.

The Ponification for the Earth's Rebirth was invented by Krass McWriter, who, along with Midnight Shadow, Hurricane Puncher, Windchaser and Silvertie were the core group that created and fleshed out every modern Bureau trope. They were the ones that took Blaze's deeply terrible original, unfinished story and remade it. They turned the sexual fantasy of a fifteen year old into a marvelous genre often described as 'Blade Runner Meets My Little Pony'. They eliminated the focus on sex and mating, and worked out a cohesive future world. They invented the concept of a dying earth on the brink of ecological collapse. They invented the idea of Equestria as a lifeboat.

And when I read their work, new to the site, new to Fimfiction, I was enthralled. I wanted to play too. And I dived in with all of my might. I took their ideas and I ran with them, and expanded them to the best of my ability. But they were the founders of the genre.

I loved Krass's work, and of all the various enemies of The Conversion Bureau created by various authors, the PER and the HLF seemed the very best. These two radically opposed groups, each generated drama and threat, but uniquely. The Human Liberation Front wanted to kill ponies, kill Celestia, and destroy Equestria, completely failing to grasp the earth was already doomed and Equestria was the only lifeboat. They were a destructive enemy, created from ignorance and pride. They are simple to write. They are every war-based faction of humans ever known in history. They are the basic human terrorist concept.

But the PER, they were my favorite. Krass had come up with a truly brilliant threat. A misguided enemy that constantly embarrassed both Celestia and the Worldgovernment, by violently saving people from themselves! Far more interesting than mere lethal violence, the result of a PER attack was more converted - and thus saved from extinction - humans. Yet, their methods made the entire official, legal, Bureau system look bad, and they made Celestia look bad, threatening the success of the very thing they believed they were helping and supporting! Ironic, misguided, fanatical - they were the inverse of the HLF, but no less a threat to the entire plan the Bureaus and the rescue of humanity represented. Even more fascinating, Krass offered that the HLF was begun as a failure of a rebel faction of the government itself. A plan to assassinate Celestia and Luna from within - by secret agents with genetic modifications so that a group of 'James Bonds' could keep their violent, human psychopathic tendencies - went hilariously wrong. They ended up being fanatically devoted to converting humans at any cost, lying to everyone, telling them they were "Celestia's Secret Army" to save the world.

That is wonderfully more interesting than just the usual terrorists with a grudge that the HLF represent. I think, anyway.

So, I created a logo for the PER, which Krass had tattooed on his arm. Then I used that logo in one of my stories. I was careful designing the logo - I was very dissatisfied with the 'cut and paste' logos others had made - and I worked out a design with meaning to every element. I also kept the logo deliberately simple - I reasoned that the former super spies that became the leaders of the PER were not fantastic graphic designers. I felt sure they imagined they were - egotisical spies that can do anything syndrome - but not actually as good as they think they are. The result was the final PER logo approved by the creator of the PER, Krass McWriter.

Here is the explanation, from my story, of what the logo means.

"So that is why we exist, the PER, the Ponification for the Earth's Rebirth. Look at our emblem, look at it! Do you know what it means?

"On the globe of the Earth, we see the origin point for the Emergence Of Equestria, there, in the North Pacific. On either side are two ponies, one an earthpony - though it could also be a pegasus with wings folded - and on the other a unicorn. The left pony has smiling eyes, closed tight. It is blind to all of our pasts, all of our regrets and mistakes and failings. It tells us that the PER welcomes everypony, and offers us redemption of both body and soul through Conversion, both that which we undergo ourselves, and that which we gift to others.

"The unicorn has an open eye, wide and searching, to spot any threat to the princesses or to Equestria. The sharp horn is our sharp determination and a symbol of magic - the magic of friendship which we offer to all Humans in saving them from themselves. Would not a true friend save another friend even if that friend were too far gone to understand? Of course she would!

"And below it all is a dropet - ponification serum - the great miracle that makes ponification possible. It is our tool, our method, our salvation, and our only weapon, for we cannot harm nor hurt, only heal. We of the PER heal the sickness of extinction by saving humanity from its own foolish pride. The wings on the droplet remind us that we save not merely the flesh, but also the soul.

Now as for the HLF, the usual concept used by most writers - including me - is just large block letters. "HLF". Just that. Painted neatly, or scrawled in spraypaint, the hyperviolent HLF is pseudo-military, rather like a federation of white-supremacy militia groups, and they don't have time for faggoty, pansy logos. No, they are manly men who only have time for heterosexually simplistic Big Block Letters. None of that sissy pony shit for them. Block letters were good enough for Patton, they are good enough for the HLF. Hoo-ah, soldier! No cheesedick maneuvers here sir!

There have been other groups, done as one-shots by some authors. All of them basically imitate the HLF - violent terrorist groups defined by guns, god, and whiteness (very few authors include people of color at all, in general - not just in Bureau stories. I take great exception to that, but I digress...).

So, that's the history of the PER logo.

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Graphic design is my passion :v
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So instead of unpacking all that, I figured that the HLF logo would be a Vitruvian Man.

There's also these buttons on Facebook I don't know the context of

Which I guess is similar to what you said but in logo form

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Okay I'm going to be real with you chief. That logo is fucking disgusting, like God damn. My human eyeballs are bleeding

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Update, while I disagree with you in many, MANY areas. At least you won't ratio me for saying we should adhere to the Geneva convention

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From Wikipedia: The Geneva Conventions concern only combatants in war.

There is no war. Not here. And not even in the Bureau universe. Not any kind of real war. Real war being defined as a legal action taken by a governmental body by an organized military force.

The reason is that the Conversion Bureaus are official, legal, Worldgovernment sponsored, well, bureaus. Official government bureaus. The whole planet earth is in agreement. This was always the central conceit of every original Bureau author, before I came to the site. They defined the one central fact of the entire genre: conversion by ponification was run by the government, it was legal, and it was an official government project. It was something lawful civilization agreed on. That is why it is called the Conversion Bureau - a bureau being an official governmental department - and not just 'The Converters' or something.

So that means that the only opposition to the Bureaus, in any legitimate, three-rules compliant Bureau story, is performed by terrorist groups, insurgents, and radical factions standing against the rule of governmental law and military law both. Since the remaining military forces of the entire earth support and and help protect and run the Conversion Bureaus, the only groups that would fight them care nothing for any law, including the Geneva Conventions. They would care no more than the Taliban, basically. And, of course, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, as well as the far-future Iinsania Caliphate are the major opposition to the Bureaus in the Mid-Eastern Production Zones. They don't care about anything but victory, and definitely not the Geneva conventions.

The HLF and the PER both don't care about the law, any law, because they are both radical terrorist groups that stand against their own government and society.

So, since there is no war, and there can be no war, I don't know what you are talking about.

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I don't mean in regards to your setting ma'am, just this site in general. Namely the people that generally dislike your stories, so you were quite on the mark with how you described the HLF

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I never did get to use the Iinsania Caliphate, which is a shame because the name is so damn funny from a Western, English speaking perspective. 'Insania' - insane caliphate. 'Iinsania' with two 'I''s is Arabic for 'human'. The Arabic word for Human seems like the word 'insane' in English. As bad guys, that would have been - I thought - hilarious.

Oh well.

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I'm gonna have to look into that, but it sounds like an okay name for a country

Edit: so I got it verified and it means humanitarian, ie salvation army red cross that kinda thing which is an oddly charitable name for a caliphate. So unless IInsania is actually an Islamic socialist state I don't think that's a plausible name for something in our world. I got Bushri from a machine translation but that's probably lacking the nuances of human languages, point is an Islamic country founded by Arab speakers likely wouldn't call itself that unless it really was trying to have am image of benevolence

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That was how I was going to write them. As a futuristic version of Islam that had grown past the 13th century values of Sharia. I was going to write the Iinsania Caliphate as a humanist-Islamic revival based on the Golden Age of Islam, before they pulled the same kind of crap as the Christian Dominionist movement of today. Back then, during their Golden Age, what eventually became our Iran of today had the most scientific and humanist cultures on the planet. They allowed equality for women, discovered how light works way before the Western world did, and their most famous poet and author was an openly gay man. There are still statues to him. His name was Abu Nawas, but today, he is hated because he was homosexual. The Islamic Golden Age was almost as free and secular as America was during the sixties to the eighties.

But, religious fundamentalism destroyed it. All the way to today.

I was going to work out the details of this new group for my Bureau future, a caliphate that revived that lost era of secular, scientific and social advancement.

Probably better that I never did, really. I probably would have gotten even more hate on me, from two directions at once: people who just hate Islam and anyone from the Middle East, and fundamentalist Islamics that would consider my use of actual history an insult to their current flavor of religion.

But, I still think that having a humanist Caliphate, fighting for humanity against Celestia's offer of rescue, on the grounds that dying as human would guarantee access to Jannah, would have been very interesting. It would have demanded a lot of research on my part too - that is part of why I never went ahead with it. I really dislike having to research religious crap. I'll do it if I have to, but I don't like it.