Truth Factor 1: The User Who Must Not Be Named Converses About Clay Claymore · 2:10pm Jul 10th, 2016
A few months ago, a YT user named the Illogical Reaper did this commentary on the YT user Clay Claymore (whom I daren't talk about here). Several of the comments were from The User Who Must Not Be Named.
His first comment read like this:
Clay Claymore is an SJW pretending to be an anti SJW just to make the real anti SJWs look bad. He has attacked real anti SJWs like myself because we dare criticise Disney and Cartoon Network for their SJW pandering. Also Clay Claymore has been fangirling over Zootopia in his Twitter account and that movie has a very cringy fanbase that includes SJWs and Furries and yet he hates the MLP FIM fandom.
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Truth factor:
He has attacked real anti SJWs like myself because we dare criticise Disney and Cartoon Network for their SJW pandering.
SOMEWHAT TRUE
He has criticised The User Who Must Not Be Named for making comments suggesting that Disney and Cartoon Network pander to ''SJW''s. But . . . wasn't The User Who Must Not Be Named responsible for making gigantic conspiracy theories out of them? And worse yet, weren't many of these claims easy to prove false?
Clay Claymore has been fangirling over Zootopia in his Twitter account
TRUE
He went to see the film at a cinema and thought it was ''better than [he] thought it was going to be.'' But most everyone else liked it too. The film has 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, for God's sake!
that movie has a very cringy fanbase that includes SJWs and Furries
UNCONFIRMED
The film preaches that excellent message of judging people by the content of their character, not by skin colour, that was most famously preached by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. on that fateful day of August 28, 1963.
There are plenty of fans of Zootopia here on FIMFiction, almost none of whom have made their political positions public. (I assume they lean left for the most part though, but some might lean right. Who knows?)
As for furries . . . doesn't MLP have some of those in common too? (from my experience, everything seems to have Rule 34 in common these days.)
he hates the MLP FIM fandom.
TRUE
There is no way even I can dispute that!
The User Who Must Not Be Named subsequently got a reply from the Illogical Reaper, which read:
Y'know, just because I h͚̜̅̀̎̆̀̆̅a͚̱͕͇̓́̽͒ͣtͦͬ̇̿̀͆͢e̫̘̿ͪͭ̆͞ Clay Claymore, that doesn't mean you [are] any better. At least I brought evidence to both my original rant and this video, while [you and] your friend, RMGProductions seem to going conspiracy theory on him in calling him a pedo. Instead, I'll ask two questions.
1) What SJW panderings? I don't know about disney since I've only seen a few shows has on late (namely SvFoE), so instead I'll ask about CN. The closest thing I've seen is SU, and it's not an SJW show. I, and my IRL friends, have never noticed the themes, and people I talk to claim "it does but it's minor."
2) What are you talking about? I've been on his twitter, and I've seen the tweet your talking about. He just thought it was a good movie. Calling him a furry because he thought Zootopia was a good movie is like calling him a pedo for thinking Rugrats was a good show. I understand that Clay has a hatred for bronies, seconded only by Gravity Falls, but that doesn't make him a hypocrite for liking Zootopia.
The User Who Must Not Be Named Strikes Back!
Yes it does make Clay Claymore a hypocrite for liking Zootopia because he acts like the Furries and the SJWs in the Zootopia fanbase don't exist. The new Powerpuff Girls reboot in Cartoon Network panders to SJWs and pedophiles. Cartoon Network killed off Miss Bellum because of her figure to please the feminists and they chopped off Miss Keane's breasts off too for the same reason while at the same time Cartoon Network made the Powerpuff Girls themselves twerk like Miley Cyrus and they are underage schoolgirls BTW. Disney turned Star Wars into a feminist propaganda piece and yes Anita Sarkeesian endorses what Disney did.
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Truth factor:
he acts like the Furries and the SJWs in the Zootopia fanbase don't exist.
MOSTLY FALSE
I think he has been at least honest about this fact. He does not believe that there are as many as there are in the Brony fandom though.
The new Powerpuff Girls reboot in Cartoon Network panders to SJWs and pedophiles.
SOMEWHAT TRUE
A reviewer on SLATE magazine criticised the amount of feminism in the reboot for being ''self-conscious'' among other things. But pedophiles are not really an important part of the fanbases for either the original or the reboot and the Left's condemnation of pedophilia is almost as universal as that of the Right.
Cartoon Network killed off Miss Bellum because of her figure to please the feminists
SOMEWHAT TRUE
Miss Bellum is not a big presence in the reboot as in the original series. However, as executive producer Nick Jennings told the LA Times, her removal didn't really have much of a thing to do with her figure:
We felt like Ms. Bellum wasn’t quite indicative of the kind of messaging we wanted to be giving out at this time, so we sort of had her move on. And that was a good choice I think on our part.
they chopped off Miss Keane's breasts off too for the same reason
UNCONFIRMED
In all the photos I've seen of Ms. Keane, the breasts are still there albeit with some exceptions (namely a shot from the Girls' quite controversial 2002 film, best remembered today as one of the casualties of the AOL Time Warner merger, where Keane is crouched down; her breasts, alas, don't appear)
Cartoon Network made the Powerpuff Girls themselves twerk like Miley Cyrus
TRUE
Finally saw a clip that confirmed this statement. The girls were made to do so in a scene from the reboot's fourth episode, PAINBOW. It was not a pretty sight, let me tell you, but it wasn't nearly as controversial as the episode that aired the next day, which was titled Horn, Sweet Horn. [big edit from the original post]
Disney turned Star Wars into a feminist propaganda piece
FALSE
From what I understand, Star Wars Episode VII had really little to do with feminism.
Anita Sarkeesian endorses what Disney did
UNCONFIRMED
I haven't looked at her Facebook, Twitter or YouTube channels in much of my life, so I don't know what she had to say about it.
The User Who Must Not Be Named Gets Confronted Again!
On top of that, PPG 2016 is pedophilic? If your referring to that image of Bubbles dressed as a hooker, you do know that that image was photoshopped, right?
Also, while I find his reasons for defending the show to be ignorant at best, he's not defending the show itself, he's telling off 90's kids who wanted the old CN back (though, considering his views on cartoon fans, plus that askFM answer, I wondn't be surprised if he lumps them all together.)
Additionally, I never thought anybody would say this about Mr. Claymore, but I think he made an excellent point recently when he tweeted:
"OMG CARTOON NETWORK IS REBOOTING ALL THESE OLD CARTOONS!!! WHY?!"
Hey, remember when YOU asked them to bring back the old cartoons?
On the page for that post, however, some people did state that the revived programs have ranked far below their expectations.
I prefer to leave it all there.
