Hello, everyone. I'd just like to bring up some important things. It would be great if everyone could read this.

1) Group mission:
The reason for this group is for people who currently dislike EqD to have discussions about what's wrong with the site, what's good about the site, what can be changed to improve it, what alternatives exist, and so on. This group was not intended and is not meant for any sort of flaming or bashing, especially not of specific individuals. Although I intend for people to be civil and constructive, there is-- by design-- no moderation here. People can say what they think and be totally honest. That's important.

2) The Prompt:
So, for whatever reason you find yourself feeling very unhappy with the famous brony-related website. Perhaps, you don't like the website's formatting and the way in which you have to operate it to use it. Perhaps, you don't like the rules about what material gets allowed versus the material that gets zapped to the moon. Perhaps, you're sick and tired of the user base of the people that post there and all of the asinine, mean, pointless, et cetera things that get said back and forth. Perhaps, your story got rejected in a manner that was transparently insulting, unfair, or otherwise applying a different standard to you versus other authors. Perhaps, you've written something about a certain subject material that faced mindless hate. Perhaps, the color scheme just looks bad to you. You just can't stand the use of Blogger. You find the Trixie obsession annoying. I can go on and on.

Well, this group is for you. I don't care why you dislike Equestria Daily. The point is: you do. And so do I. Thanks for reading. If you choose to join, than thanks once again. Please post to your hearts content about what you feel.

P.S. I know that "I Hate Equestria Daily" is not accurate since this is about merely "disliking" the site, and it's meant as a place for civil discussion rather than anti-site flaming. Consider the title a misnomer-- like how the cereal Grape Nuts does not contain grapes (nor nuts) *What's the deal? / Jerry Seinfeld pose*

3) Stories:
This group is also designed for people to link stories that are legitimately good stories but they so happen to be stories that could never, ever be put on Equestria Daily (at least how under it's current policies). This is, by design, totally un-moderated. Anyone whatsover can link as any stories whatsoever to their heart's content.

4) The Name:
"I Hate Equestria Daily"... is a name that I've always been a bit troubled by. A more accurate title would be "I Dislike Equestria Daily". This is not meant to be anything like 4chan, reddit, or other places with mindless hate. But I also feel that the original title should remain in place.

Any thoughts? Comments? Ideas? Please post away!

The 3000 word minimum is crap. I've read fantastic stories that were less than a thousand words, but awesome stories like Scootaloo is Slightly Flame Retardant can't get put on the site because it's not long enough.

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I would like to point out:

>So, for whatever reason you find yourself feeling very unhappy with the famous brony-related website. Perhaps, you don't like the website's formatting and the way in which you have to operate it to use it. Perhaps, you don't like the rules about what material gets allowed versus the material that gets zapped to the moon. Perhaps, you're sick and tired of the user base of the people that post there and all of the asinine, mean, pointless, et cetera things that get said back and forth. Perhaps, your story got rejected in a manner that was transparently insulting, unfair, or otherwise applying a different standard to you versus other authors. Perhaps, you've written something about a certain subject material that faced mindless hate. Perhaps, the color scheme just looks bad to you. You just can't stand the use of Blogger. You find the Trixie obsession annoying. I can go on and on.

This is in theory.

>your story got rejected

This is in practice with few exceptions.

I would personally prefer it if the group strayed more towards the intellectual and conceptual dislike of Equestria Daily rather the stereotypical personal vendetta for a story that was almost always rightfully rejected. I may not be with you on some issues concerning submission guidelines for pornographic writing, or otherwise, Swiper, but I acknowledge that Equestria Daily does have some issues with how it is run, particularly with the music and art departments.

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The thing is: It's in the inherent nature of this group that I refuse to have any kind of moderation. I want everyone to say exactly what they think. I want anyone to be able to post. I want anyone to be able to join or leave. I want everyone to be able to respond to people.

So, while lots of people are here just because they're mad at being rejected and nothing else, I feel bound by my "no mod" ethic here to let that all happen. You know? Even if lots of people are here just about the rejections thing, that's fine for me. That might not be the direction that I want the group to go to, but the underlying rationale of the group is "anyone, who expresses any dislike for EqD for any reason and in any fashion, is welcome to talk".

You see what I mean?

P.S. You know, personally, I don't mind very much the idea of "EqD is for families and therefore does not porn"-- not saying I agree, but it's a defensible principle. I really have way more of a problem that "EqD enforces characterization, so if your Luna is fun, cute, energetic, happy, and bubbly-- no dice since we want Luna lonely and friendless as per our canons/headcanons". And the fact that sad and dark things are flamed just for being sad and dark. And their use of Blogger. And the art and music that gets posted, which I went to before I quit the site for good and stared this group. (There are many, many such issues ).

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In practice, I just hate Trixie.

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>I feel bound by my "no mod" ethic here to let that all happen.

I wasn't suggesting you should ban these people or what not, rather encourage more productive and less self-centered discussion. In other words, my preference is the same as yours: people should say what they feel about what other people saying, and if saying the constant, inaccurate bashing of the Equestria Daily pre-readers is unwarranted and counterproductive to what the group wants to represent is what people feel, then I believe they should say it, yourself included.

>EqD enforces characterization, so if your Luna is fun, cute, energetic, happy, and bubbly-- no dice since we want Luna lonely and friendless as per our canons/headcanons

This is blatantly untrue, unless you're referring to Seth's former control over the fiction department. If you do mean that, I would not have enough information to comment on, but I can tell you the prevailing opinion of the pre-readers is almost exactly the opposite of wanting more sad Luna.

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>I wasn't suggesting you should ban these people or what not, rather encourage more productive and less self-centered discussion. In other words, my preference is the same as yours: people should say what they feel about what other people saying, and if saying the constant, inaccurate bashing of the Equestria Daily pre-readers is unwarranted and counterproductive to what the group wants to represent is what people feel, then I believe they should say it, yourself included.

I don't like that bashing, but-- honestly-- I don't really see what I should particularly do other than saying "hey, please don't bash". Which I've done, many times... I could be a dick and start actively messing with people's commentary, but even the mere idea of doing that makes me feel sick. Like I said before, this is totally open and free for a reason.

And I know that I've already made myself into a hate magnet from pre-readers and other people by making this group in the first place, and I regret that (I know, I know-- it should be something like "I dislike" instead of "I hate") since it's not like I don't enjoy work written by some pre-readers and so on. But taking a more active personal position with the group will only be making those things worse, not better (then I'll be actively involved in personal warfare). I'm not (and I don't feel like I should be) in a referee position. God knows that pre-readers have said and done all kinds of bad, questionable things that deserve serious criticism. This group exists for a reason, especially with friends I've seen being treated just cruelly. And God knows that the reverse is true, EqD getting lots of poor quality stuff that they just can't be expected to spend loads of time on. And, well, I don't really see how I can referee that.

Since I can't referee that, and I don't want to be an even bigger hate magnet, then I'm just taking a hands-off position and letting each person speak their piece. The first rule of holes and all... I've stopped digging.

470251 while there is some good fics that are under 3000, at least they didn't do something rediculas, like 15K, which seeing the other rules, I would not be shocked by.