For years I have been predicting that Modern Disney was going to butcher or hide away completely older movies to their vault and have been ridiculed and bullied because of what I said, and sadly I have been proven right Check out this link to a forum thread I made back in 2016 and this new video that talks about disney's latest crimes against art and culture.

https://www.fimfiction.net/group/209831/the-official-modern-disney-haters-club/thread/233768/disney-movies-that-are-at-most-in-danger-of-being-censored-in-the-near-future

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Disney is satan, what did you expect?

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And Disney is absolutely hypocritical about this. How can they censor something as harmless as the nudity from Splash while their morning show on ABC literally cheered for a prepubescent boy in drag who danced on stage in a sexual manner for a bunch of creepy adult men?

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They are sick.

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Yes they are very sick. After they also gave us a movie like Star Wars Episode8: The Last Jedi where Luke Skywalker gave an alien sea cow an insinuated handjob and recently gave us Onward a movie where it is mostly about two guys talking to their undead father's severed crotch

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I have a feeling they are going to get much, much worse as time goes on

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Oh yes. Expect more butchering of beloved classics and expect more hypocritical perversions being shoved in our faces in their newer content.

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Exactly. It is the inevitable decay a culture experiences when it detaches itself from God and Moral Truth.

This sickens me to my core.

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All this is part of a sinister agenda.

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Me too.

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Unfortunately, this is not new:

Walt Disney was a crazy genius. Part of his insanity was racism and opposing worker rights. Rather than owning this they hide it. This has happened for over a generation (a generation, in demographics, means 25 years); but now however, the rewriting of history goes up to 11.

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What does Walt Disney's anti Communism has to do with what the current regime is doing now? The current regime is doing everything they can to destroy his legacy. Because of them, the name Disney is being associated with artistic vandalism, Cultural Marxist propaganda, and cringey garbage with no entertaining, artistic, and cultural value.

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Exactly. Ever read the declassified documents of Disney's work with the CIA? Fascinating and terrifying.

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It is the course of the disease:

Basically, Disney, like so many people born in the late 19th Century was racist. As racist people go , he was not even that bad:

He opposed lynching. He just wanted negroes to know their place. He imagined a Utopia like Song of the South. The only thing standing between that Utopia and us is the murderous Klan and uppity Negroes. If those 2 extremist group would just knock it off, everything would be great.

For his time, he was not that bad.

After his death, rather than acknowledging things like a character named Jim Crow in Dumbo, Disney Corporation started censoring. At 1st, it airbrushed the warts on the picture, but after a while, the modifications because more extreme. Finally, it whitewashed the canvas and paints a new picture:

¡Let us remake Dumbo with no Jim Crow!

If the Disney Corporation would have owned its and Walts past, which is not that bad compared other studios who made KKK-Propoganda, which is something Disney never did, all of this censorship and pointless remakes could have been avoided. We need to accept the past warts and all or, little historical revisions snowball into burning libraries or … vaults.

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It is in the nature of leftists to revise history, just look at Stalin.

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Yeah I heard about that.

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You do know that the certain special interest groups that demonised Walt Disney and his masterpiece Fantasia 1940 for being "Nazi propaganda" back in 1940 are the very same certain special interest groups that control Disney now.

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It is the nature of all totalitarians to rewrite history. One does not even need the leader to have political power:

L. Ron Hubbard embellished his deeds during the WW2.

I can even give to you an example from a democracy:

I am into voting reform. ¿Have you noticed that, in the USA, we have only Republicrats and Democans winning elections? That is because of Duverger's Law:

If one uses plurality (vote for only 1 candidate), the side of the political spectrum with more parties looses because of votesplitting. This causes the parties on both sides of the political spectrum to fail until one has only 1 party on the right and 1 party on the left.

In the progressive era, one of the reforms pushed was a reform of the voting System called Bucklin-Voting:

Bucklin-Voting

Bucklin allows 3rd parties and independents to win. Both the Republicrats and the Democans considered Bucklin and exentential threat and put their differences aside for going to war against it. By the Interwar Years, Bucklin was dead.

Now, sneak into your local High School and look at the History-Books. You will notice that they do not mention Bucklin. That is a deliberate bipartisan decision.

¡The victors write the History-Books! Thus it always was and thus it always will be. This is much worse in totalitarian governments because they have no internal to-the-state opposition for balancing revision of history.

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I caution you to watch out for conspiratorial thinking:

If one is too trusting, others will exploit one. If one is too distrustful, one will see conspiracies everywhere, like the guy going onto his neighbor, who happens to be an amatuer pilot, about mind-controlling chemtrails. When she flies, she leaves condensation-trails behind her and knows that she doe not splay mind-controlling chemicals. Moderation in all things

Before looking into conspiracy, one must rule out mundane explanations. The mundane explanation is that Disney wants to maximize profits and improve its imagine and sees historical revision as an effective technique for achieving these goals

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You think that all this artistic vandalism is about protecting Walt Disney's legacy. No, this is about people who hate him and have hijacked his brand name and used it as an instrument to advance their sick agenda. All these terrible and political correct remakes of his movies are Modern Disney's way to trying to upstage Walt Disney himself. And it is a FACT that Fantasia 1940 was branded as "Nazi propaganda" by the very same kind of people that control Disney today and FACTS don't care about your feelings. And BTW Donald Trump has no influence in Disney at all since the current regime openly hates him. If Disney really cares about making profits, then why are they still doing things that are causing them to lose money like pushing Political Correctness AKA Puritanism? Why Disney has not fired Kathleen Kennedy yet and why is Disney still allowing her to keep putting in her weirdo feminist nonsense into Star Wars after losing so much money? Why is Disney even letting Bob Iger back in when the company fell to it's lowest point to date because of his poor leadership? Can you explain that to me without insulting Trump please?

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0thly, as in before all else, I never brought up Trump. You brought up Trump. Personally, I feel that Trump is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Trump is a complete non sequitur. Bringing Trump up in this discussion is like the man going to the meeting of the Town-Council to proudly proclaim that he knows that all of the Councilors are baby-eating lizard-people from the Hollow Earth when the agenda is whether or not to increase the cost of doglicenses by 1 dollar for funding a new dogpark. Let us not bring up Trump because he is totally irrelevant to this discussion.

I never claimed that the current executives are very interested in the Reputation of Walt Disney. What they are interested is maximizing profits. If sanitizing Walt Disney, and, far more importantly, Disney-IP will increase profits, they will do it. Disney cares most about profits.

Personally, I believe that Disney-Corporation should have owned the racism and acknowledged that Walt Disney was a product of his time, and opposed racial violence (he felt that lynching were wrong and was not violent to anyone) and moved on (in other words, Disney-Corportation should have owned it and moved on), but the executives saw things differently.

I see no hidden agenda. The only agenda I see is to make money, which is a known agenda.

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Fascinating. An utterly marvelous analysis, thank you.
Makes the current president very interesting I think in that he is hated by both major parties in Washington.

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I brought up Trump because YOU needlessly brought him up in one of my threads in my Batman group. And BTW how is insulting and alienating the audience going to maximize profits? How is banning movies from Fox like Die Hard 1988 and butchering Splash 1984 going to help with "sanitizing" Walt Disney's legacy when he had nothing to do with those movies since he was long dead when they were made and Die Hard was made by what was then a rival movie studio? And I strongly suggest that you go and look at my latest thread here and tell me if what they promoting is just about "maximize profits" or something more ideological?

Disney was caught promoting child abuse in Good Morning America back in 2018

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Check out my latest thread.

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> "I brought up Trump because YOU needlessly brought him up in one of my threads in my Batman group."

I brought up that Batman Returns anticipated Trump with the Penguin winning office almost a generation ahead of time:

• Both believe that they are classy but hare boorish.
• They are both mendacious.
• Both have questionable business-ethics.
• Both are womanizers.
• One claims that he can murder and get away with it while the other tries to get away with murder

That thread has nothing to do with this thread.

> "And BTW how is insulting and alienating the audience going to maximize profits? How is banning movies from Fox like Die Hard 1988 and butchering Splash 1984 going to help with "sanitizing" Walt Disney's legacy when he had nothing to do with those movies since he was long dead when they were made and Die Hard was made by what was then a rival movie studio?"

The corporation only cares about sanitizing Walt Disney and his movies as far as it increases profits. If sanitizing a movie from last decade or a movie Walt Disney made in the InterWar Years so that it can play to a larger audience will make it more profitable, Disney will do it. I hope that you are right and so many people will get upset about Disney ruining their childhood and boycott Disney that Disney will decide that it is unprofitable to sanitize movies and stop.

> "And I strongly suggest that you go and look at my latest thread here and tell me if what they promoting is just about "maximize profits" or something more ideological?"

Frankly, I do not know what to think about that. It seems weird to me. ¿Is it a stupid fad which will be gone before we get the vaccine for the 'Rona? or ¿is it soft kiddyporn? ¡I just do not know!

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Well I am simply reminding you not to derail this thread like you did with that Batman Returns thread in my other group. I had to clean up that thread. People are angry and are boycotting Disney over their recent vandalism spree.

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I have no attention of bringing Trump into this thread and, believe it or not, I complemented Tim Burton on his prescience in the other thread.

Maybe, Disney will stop, if it determines that it looses more money than it makes by sanitizing moneys for content. We can only hope. I am all for throwing in open the Disney-Vault and letting al of the movies out uncensored. Even Song of the South has much to teach us:

Most WASPS (White Anglo-Saxon Protestants) born around the turn of the 20th Century internalized racism, but abhorred violence. The Society depicted in that movie is the 1 mosts Wasps believed we could have if the trouble-making extremists of uppity negroes and murderous klansmen would just knock it off.

All we can do is protest, boycott, and hope that Disney changes its policies.

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Well I still do not see anything that connects Trump with The Penguin because he has more in common with Batman. Song Of The South 1946 is no Birth Of A Nation 1916.

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Yes, Song of the South Abhors violence. Like I wrote, it is by and for Wasps born around the turn of the century.

Birth of a Nation is a different animal because it justifies violence to whites opposed to violence. If it would just show violence as a way of suppressing the liberated slaves until they are practically enslaved again, it would alienate whites believing that freedom is a good thing. Instead, it portrayed negroes as barely able to take care of themselves and better off and happier as slaves. Now that they are free, black men lack self-control and cannot stop them from raping white women. The Klansmen are heroes protecting white women from rape.

They are both racist movies but very different.

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Well it's a very long time since I last saw Song Of The South like over 25 years ago, but I don't remember anything that was straight up racist in it. It's so ironic that Disney claims to be so "progressive" while they are getting praises from genuine regressive hate groups like the Parents Television Council for butchering Splash and Disney has not rejected those praises from them.

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Here is a synopsis of Song of the South:

It has no racial violence. It portrays a utopia where all are happy because all knows their places. A white city-boy goes to the country because his parents need to workout problems in their marriage. The local negroes entertain the boy with folk tales and folk songs because their raison d'etre is to serve caucasians. All knowing their places and doing what they are supposed to do makes all happy and content.

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Okay. From what I remember the movie takes place some time after the Civil War. And according to the Wikipedia, the animated segments had anti slavery messages. So anyways it is very odd that Modern Disney clams to be open minded when they are happy to receive compliments from Westboro Baptist Church style hate groups like the Parents Television Council.

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It took place in Reconstruction during the 1st term of Grant. It did oppose slavery. Given that Walt Disney and Joel Chandler Harris (the author of Uncle Remus), this is not surprising. The original material and the movie both show an idyllic utopia where everyone is content and happy because they know their places.

We seem to somehow ended up arguing at cross purposes. I believe that Disney should liberate this movie, uncensored, from the Disney-Vault and let it speak for itself. I take it that you agree.

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Yes Disney should release the uncut version. In fact Disney should release all of the uncut versions of everything they own.

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Yes, let history decide. I would not letting Disney try to improve the movies, as long as they let us have access to the originals:

Going back to Splash:

Give us both the original version for sane people and the censored version for crazy religious prudes.

¡Give us the choice of which version to watch!

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They won't do that because they have a totalitarian agenda. And as for the ISIS style religious quacks and their equally prudish SJW feminists, nobody is forcing them to watch movies like Splash, but they are shoving their truly perverted ideologies down our throats by supporting the mutilations of the movies we like.

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Yeah, Disney has had a mentality of locking things into the Vault for over a generation. The Mouse is not likely to turn on a dime. Maybe, some day, Disney will see the light and puts its whole catalog, uncensored, on Disney Plus. We can only hope, but it will not be soon.

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I think the only way Disney will change it's ways is if it collapses and gets a Regime Change. And yes Disney will collapse like the Soviet Union eventually.

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Disney iis a publicly traded company. Corporations raise capital by selling stock. The stock entitles the stockholders to vote for executives and receive dividends. If Disney does has to cut dividends because it does not make enough money, the shareholders can vote in new executives. That is a way for Disney to have new executives without the whole company going bankrupt, and preferable to bankruptcy and liquidation:

It is doubtful that, if liquidated, 1 entity could buy all of Disney. One might have Sony owing Dumbo, while Hulu owns Pinocchio. Rather than having 1 Vault, we would have many Vaults.

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Well the shareholders better clean up Disney before it gets sent to the same Dustbin of History with 4Kids.

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Indeed.

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And Funimation is also not far off from ending up in the same Dustbin of History too.