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Walabio
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As we all know, all the peer-reviewed studies support decriminalization of prostitution. In the conversation with ChatGPT, I discovered that its databases are contaminated with assertions from prohibitionists. That got me thinking:

> "Even if I steelman the numbers from the prohibitionists, they still fail terribly."

We must 0thly define steelmanning:

Steelmanning is the opposite of strawmanning:

Strawmanning is when, rather than addressing an argument, one addresses a weaker version of the argument.

I have an example:

Some people are institutionalized for life because of physical and mental disabilities. It is current policy to force them to their entire lives and then die as virgins. I point out that this is so cruel that it would be more humane to euthanize them than to never let them have sex. I argue that we should prevent conception and let them have sex with each other.

I get this strawman:

> "¡You want to sterilize and euthanize all adults with physical and mental disabilities!"

That is a strawman of mine argument.

Steelmanning is the opposite of strawmanning. One fortifies the bad arguments of the opposition with iron until they are made of steel and then show that even these superversions of the original argument do not work. I shall use magnitudes ( absolute value of the difference in decimal (Log10) logs, for quantifying. Here we go:

Prostitutes are forced to have sex with over an hundred men daily.

Let us start wby rounding down to an even 100, just as not to be too cruel. That is over 4 men an hour, which is ridiculous. Typically, prostitutes only have a client half the time, or 4 daily, working 8 hours. This claim is off by a magnitude of 1.4. Let us steelman this argument:

Let us suppose that a big event comes to town. A prostitute decides to pull a 12-hour shift and has sex with a score (20) of clients. We did everything we could to help the argument, but it is still of by a magnitude of .7.

Prohibitionists claim that a women had to have sex with a million men over the course of 15 years. I shall assume that they misspoke and meant and meant a million times instead. That comes to over 7 times an hour. This is an utterly stupid claim.

Let us assume that a prostitute works 200 days yearly and has sex with 4 men daily. That is 12,000 times in 15 years. The original claim is off by a magnitude of 1.9. We shall steelman it to 20 times daily and have her work 365.25 days yearly. That is the utterly ridiculous 109,575 times in 15 years, That is still off by 1 order of magnitude.

Prohibitionists claim that 400 thousand children are trafficked for sexual exploitation annually in the United States of America. Even 1 child is too many, but the real figure is less than 1 thousand. They are off by 2.6 magnitude. Let us steelman their argument by assuming that they meant 4,000. They are still of 2 magnitude.

Interestingly, the last argument spawned the RescueIndustry:

The last argument caused soft-headed people to ask whither they could send money for helping rescue these children. Grifters responded by founding Project Polaris, a charity which has taken in billions of dollars and helped none —— ¡except those running it! Project Polaris is pure grift.

Bad Dragon
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7805222 One thing that I find ironic is that a lot of resources go into 'saving' women from 'sex trafficking', but after these women are 'saved' they go back to their former employer on their own accord.

Everyone assumes that these women need saving, but nobody bothers to actually ask them if that really is the case.

Walabio
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7805228

2 Points:

  • It is strange to "save" people by throwing them into cages.
  • Most prostitutes are self-employed:

Here in California, in order to know whom to vilify, "MassageParlors" have legal owners,n but if California would decriminalize prostitution, most borbellos would be LLC (Limited LiabilityCompanies) and be run as Co-Ops (each woman would be responsible for her share of bills, taxes, et cetera and then keep whatever is leftover for herself. Each bordello would also be an EscortService.

Prostitutes can also work independently, but that gets expensive because she needs to rent a workspace just for sex, unless she wants drunk patrons knocking on her door in the middle of the night:

For a few years as a trusted regular, Sally (not her real name) let me visit her in her home. It was much better than the MassageParlor (legal regulations mandate that the MassageTables by 1 yard by 2 yards (.9 m * 1.8 m). This is so narrow that the person on top often falls to the floor. Indeed, it is common to take the mattress off of the table and put it onto the floor. This regulation exists specifically for limiting sex. At her place we had a bed 2 meters by 2 meters, with snacks and drinks. We got tested and became fluid-bonded. She succeeded in getting customer-loyalty (she got all of my money and did not have to share it with anyone). She also had a literal cathouse:

In her backyard, was a cathouse for the feral cats. When I saw it, I just had to laugh.

Most prostitutes are very independent women. Because of the laws, they are technically employees, but they make most of their money as tips —— ¡big tips lead to "extraspecial massages"! . If California would decriminalize prostitution, they would be fully self-employed as part-owners of a Co-Ops.

Basically, these prudes rescue these women from themselves by throwing them into cages.

Bad Dragon
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7805556 I blame Christian values for this mess.

Even monkeys have prostitution. It's natural.

Walabio
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7805608

And Penguins:

Bad Dragon
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7805619 That's a rock-hard currency.

Walabio
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