6409490 Robots don't have any emotions but can be super effective.

When I said fake it 'till you make it, I wasn't referring to emotions. I was referring to actions. You can do stuff even if you don't feel like doing stuff. All it takes is ignoring your emotions and focusing on your actions.

I don't think it matters much what happens inside one's head. The result of that jumble is the only thing that counts. If someone is a pedophile by nature but the effect of that is that she's being very good with children and they all love her for it, I see nothing wrong with that. Give her more children to play with.

You might be right about the atrophy of the brain. It's probably why they recommend old people to keep using the brain. Perhaps, the dreams are a biological cure for atrophy. I never thought about it from this angle before.

If you had enough money to last you a lifetime, would you still be considering this occupation you have your sights on?

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emotions are a property of life forms, which are generally capable of far more than just one particular thing. robots are not life forms, they're man-made devices created to perform specific functions with a specialized focus. they are what you would call "super effective" at the tasks they perform because we are able to build them to be powerful than we are for performing those tasks. for those robots we can't build for that purpose, we generally use people.

that I'm aware of and have done. anyone can improve at anything, if they have some potentiality there and they have what they need.

I don't know what to think of that. I think to some extent, it matters what goes on in a person's head because that affects the person's perception, desires, actions, etc. for example, those people who are schizophrenic tend to have a warped perception of reality and not realize when they're experiencing it. I have heard a story of a man who "conquered schizophrenia"; that is, he's able to use reasoning to determine what is real and what isn't, to the point where his schizophrenia doesn't hinder him. I think the point we can both agree on is this: if any person with any issues can manage themselves and their issues in order to avoid causing harm mindlessly, and to purposefully and meaningfully create benefit for themselves and others, then "they count". depending on the individual we're talking about, doing that could be anything from effortless to virtually impossible.

I don't think that dreams are a "cure" for it. rather, that they give it some exercise in order to slow that atrophy. a young person's brain can atrophy quickly, given the right circumstances, such as in spending large amounts of time within solitary confinement. assuming dreams are "brain exercise", they fail to be effective enough to counteract that damage.

probably not. I would probably learn many different things from many different fields. maybe compile it all as some sort of giant fact book. make it easier for others with similar efforts in mind to do such.

6409714 I believe robots will be evolved to do more various tasks, and I don't think robot's emotions will play a major part of it.

I know someone who conquered schizophrenia. The trick is to act differently than what you feel like acting. In a sense, emotions and desires should be denied or ignored if you want to focus on the right actions, else you may fall prey to afflictions.

The question of the purpose of dreams is as old as humans are, but perhaps you have the answer to it. Best to wait for science to catch up and confirm it.

If you wouldn't pursue it otherwise, it may be that it is money that you wish to pursue. In that case, picking a job that gives you the most money might be the answer. The more it pays, the more motivation it should give you.

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emotions are not a vital element to the process of accomplishment.

everyone has something just a little bit different to deal with, extreme or otherwise.

not sure science has much interest in it. last I recall, science stated that one can't read in their dreams. I can read in mine. in fact, I could recall specific fonts.

I would pursue that if I could profit from it. I also don't think that it's as simple as picking the highest paying job I could possibly pick. but then, I am lost.

6410243 Some focus in getting into the right state of mind before doing something. I think that step can simply be skipped if you focus on the work itself.

I used to wonder, 'Why don't insane people just act as if they're sane?' Nowadays I think, 'What if everybody is insane and they're just acting as sane?'

I can read in my dreams, as well. However, it takes more effort than in waking state. Also, some of the things I read don't make much sense. And the text keeps changing as I read it.

It's clear that you want to make money. The goal is quite simple, really. The more you work, the more you'll earn. You don't have to pick the perfect job. The time you spend picking is the time you could have spent earning money. Besides, you can still look for better options even after you get employed. So, what's keeping you from getting a job?

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unless focusing on the work covers said optimization, that step shouldn't be skipped if it can be done because it optimizes that flesh and bone tool being used.

to the first question: they can't. ask a blind person to ask as if they can see. the second is far more likely. I've considered that "there is no normal", that what we see as "normal" is just what we know as "mild".

I do so easily. I don't know why.

I could do a great number of things for money. the problem is in what I'm doing in order to get that money. I could go rob banks for a living and that would get me the money, but it wouldn't make me happy.

6410846 With most people the amount of external motivation is important. So yes, if you're trying to control people, you have to take their emotions into account.

I think most people with a mental problem can imagine how a person without their issue would act like. All it takes is to imitate being 'normal'. Blind people can't do it, but I think most people with mental problems don't lack imagination.

It might be that the structure of one's brain influences the dreams.

Why wouldn't robbing banks make you happy? What kind of jobs make you miserable?

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depends on how you control them. some people in some situations, you don't have to consider their emotions at all.

depends on their issues. some are deeply complex. some are troubling to the point where it would be similar to "trying to see while blind".

that sounds about right, actually. I've had quite a people tell me specifically that they are unable to dream, except in the case of experiencing horrible nightmares.

excluding the fact that I'd have to kill without qualms, meticulously plan out such a thing, learn how to handle a gun well enough to kill someone else who has one, there's not much room for growth in that. jobs that have me dealing with people make me miserable, generally. but I suspect that jobs in general may also have that effect on me. I don't know yet. I've tried even imagining stupid scenarios, ex. extremely beneficial low risk jobs. I think the problem for me may be in that I don't want my entire life to be about where I "just work", if that makes sense. either I choose that life, and therefore I am not "just working", or I "just work", and it's "just" my job.

6411047 Well, if you have enough authority, you can, indeed, disregard other people's feelings. It's your way or the highway whether they like it or not.

People have about 14 dreams per night but forget the majority of them before they wake up.

I can understand you wanting a job to become a part of you. Many people actually escape their RL by focusing more on their job. When they are forced to retire, many people are plunged into depression because they're suddenly no longer needed.

There are many jobs where you don't have to deal with people. It's just you and your work.

Have you ever considered the possibility that you could just go out and try as many jobs as possible? Perhaps those experiences would help you decide where your place is in the workplace.

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less about their amount of authority, more about the people's recourse. regarding job situations for example, the worst thing a normal person would do is quit, which may even be favorable for them. if they're not thinking rationally at the time though, worse can happen.

never heard of that before. though I can recall often having more than one dream, or "dreams shifting over into other states".

still, that prospect doesn't sound enticing to me in and of itself. thinking about it is difficult.

no, I haven't thought of that. but I have considered that maybe I lack a place in the workplace.

6411243 We are fortunate to live in a society where free jobs are in abundance. If you don't like the current work environment, you can simply move to another.

When you say that your dreams shift into other states, what do you mean? What are these states?

What is it that you don't find enticing in the thought of having a job? Is it really the case that you enjoy yourself so much at home that you just can't find the time to work? Would it really be such a waste to break your routine? Perhaps, the things you already do would become even more enjoyable if the time to do them would become more scarce.

If you had a magical wardrobe that took you to another world, would you at least visit it from time to time? That's what a job is. It's a doorway into another world, and you're fortunate that the door is wide open for you. Will you step through?

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that greatly depends on the area you reside in, and your ability to travel.

imagine "episode 1" suddenly changing into "episode 2".

no. that's not the case. in fact, I may do a video about this someday. people have this idea that being at home, not working, doing whatever comes to you throughout the day is paradise. it's not. in this society, it's one of the most restrictive things there is without being imprisoned. my issue with work is with the activities I'm involved in. I despise being involved in senselessness. I don't like the thought of struggling with a boss who dislikes me and wishes to use his authority to punish me, or engaging in activity that produces no real profit (ex. "always look busy when the superintendent comes around!"). while I could deal with such for a short period of time, I won't stand for that being my existence. I'd sooner change it or violate it.

I don't think of work that way. I think of it as going to prison for a period of time, except you get paid and you get to leave afterwards. depending on the prison though, it may not be such a bad thing, going from one prison to the other.

6412339 Is the work scarce where you are?

So dream states are like one dream transitioning into another?

You say you despise senselessness. Do you not get that feeling when you're at home? And are those issues you have with jobs really dealbreakers? Compared to being stuck at home, would it really be insufferable to adjust yourself based on the work environment?

Have you made any attempts to start your own business?

I don't think prison is all that bad. And if you even get paid for it, it's better still.

How many jobs did you try in your lifetime?

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it seems so, unless you're not a specialist or willing to put up with Wal-Mart.

at home, I can point out pointlessness or ignore it, and do what's needed. at work, tends to be "don't talk back to me" or "do what I said", if not that implication. yes, as I said before, I despise being involved in senselessness. senselessness is a red flag, and is a deal breaker for long term work for numerous reasons. one of which is they'll eventually end up firing me, no matter what I do. a second reason is that businesses that tend to operate by being senseless, they go out of business if it doesn't change. it would definitely be insufferable to deal with that, even if the alternative is homelessness.

no. I still struggle with the question: "how can I make any amount of money online?" I don't know how to answer that yet. maybe I'm not asking the right questions.

being in prison isn't the problem. the problem is you have to play the game. if you're ill-suited to play, you'll either get eliminated from it or experience misery. there are those games where your abilities are irrelevant and don't affect your amount. those, I couldn't rely on for the long-term.

so far, only one. I wouldn't do it again.

6412763 Did you ever consider becoming a specialist? Did you ever consider moving to a place where there are more jobs?

At work, you could pretend that you're at a kinky gang orgy and you play the role of a pet. When someone talks down to you, it might turn you on instead of frustrate you.

As for the business going broke, it doesn't really concern you. You're in it for the money, not for life. Why are you concerned with long-term prospects when it comes to the job? Are you planning to build your carrier?

Are you in danger of becoming homeless?

There are several ways to make money online, but you can't really make a fortune because there's loads of competition. You could:
- Write articles (there's a site for that where they hire you to do that)
- Programmer for hire
- Artist for hire
- Fill online surveys that pay

You could also delve into trading. If you're good, you don't even need loads of money to do that. When you see a setup you can leverage it 100x and you get 100 times the amount of profit (or blow off your account).

As for being forced to play the game, I thought you like games. It forces you to adapt and compete with others. Besides, would you really want to play a game if you could play it by your own rules? Things which aren't challenging aren't fun.

You are in a unique position right now where you can afford to test the field. Those who already have jobs are stuck with them. They can't pause their carriers to test other things for a while (they'd get fired if they tried that). But you can. You can experience variety that others cannot.

Personally, I'd enjoy a boring job that would let me listen and edit my stories. Like a security guard, for instance.

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I have. college is out of my reach without help. I may get the help I need now.

if I'm going to play make believe, I'd rather pretend I'm rich. my problem isn't with being talked down to, though I don't like that either. my problem is with having to deal with instances of senselessness. for example, someone steals something and I'm given the blame for it, despite a lack of evidence.

I care about long-term viability for a number of reasons. bad work experiences can harm your ability to find future work, especially if those you work with use trickery against you. if they suddenly go out of business, they won't be able to pay you. long-term viability can be important due to a lack of options.

eventually, yes.

I'm aware of all of those, though know little of "programmer for hire". the people who're able to make a living doing the first are quite skilled at it and have a reputation for doing it. the majority of writers won't make as much money as them. I lack artistic skills, though I could probably develop them. those online surveys are often something people do in their spare time for extra money.

I've heard of that and looked into it. unfortunately, I'm most familiar with cryptocurrency, and that option of leverage isn't available to Americans. in order to receive that option, I think I'd need to physically travel to another country and make my account there. I traded cryptocurrency for a while, and while I did make money from it, I couldn't make a living from it. I'm definitely unable to do that without the advantage of leverage.

I'm not good when it comes to speaking, being likable, interacting with people, or dealing with stupid people. I could improve on that last problem and eliminate it. it would take radical change to improve the first three. even if I did, that doesn't change the fact that it'll remain a weakness.

I have advantages that they don't, that's true. I think those people are in a better position than I am, in many ways.

sounds nice. long time ago, I applied for a job like that. forget what went wrong.

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I have. college is out of my reach without help. I may get the help I need now.

Who will help you?

if I'm going to play make believe, I'd rather pretend I'm rich. my problem isn't with being talked down to, though I don't like that either. my problem is with having to deal with instances of senselessness. for example, someone steals something and I'm given the blame for it, despite a lack of evidence.

It's just an opinion of other people, it shouldn't matter. Inside you know that you're much better than what their view of you is (since you didn't' steal anything). With a different view on it, the situation could actually feel positive.

I care about long-term viability for a number of reasons. bad work experiences can harm your ability to find future work, especially if those you work with use trickery against you. if they suddenly go out of business, they won't be able to pay you. long-term viability can be important due to a lack of options.

In the worst case scenario, you find yourself in the situation you are in now. You lose nothing by giving a job a chance.

eventually, yes.

Do you shudder at the thought of becoming homeless? I sometimes think about that, and it doesn't really feel all that bad. You get free food and clothes, and you can do whatever you want to do. I'd probably start collecting stuff from trash to sell on e-bay.

I'm aware of all of those, though know little of "programmer for hire".

There are many programmers in India who will take on a project you have. Some guy in America actually exported his whole job using their services. He gave 1/5 of his paycheck and his work was taken care of and he could do whatever he wanted in the 8 hours time he was forced to be in his office.

the people who're able to make a living doing the first are quite skilled at it and have a reputation for doing it.

That's actually not true. I took part in highering writers for pay and they sucked big times. They weren't native speakers (most of them were from India), and they had a bad grasp on grammar. I had to edit the hell out of what they've written. The only redeeming quality they had was that they were really cheap. If you can offer your services even cheaper, your skill won't even be the issue.

the majority of writers won't make as much money as them. I lack artistic skills, though I could probably develop them.

But yes, you won't get rich by ghostwriting. You have to get lucky to get a great publisher if you want to get rich.

those online surveys are often something people do in their spare time for extra money.

Why couldn't you do them?

I've heard of that and looked into it. unfortunately, I'm most familiar with cryptocurrency, and that option of leverage isn't available to Americans. in order to receive that option, I think I'd need to physically travel to another country and make my account there. I traded cryptocurrency for a while, and while I did make money from it, I couldn't make a living from it. I'm definitely unable to do that without the advantage of leverage.

You have the option of leverage on many exchanges. You don't need to physically go anywhere. A picture of your ID is all they ask for, and you can just upload it to their site when you register. If this is, indeed, what you want to do, it's just a matter of doing it. There aren't any obstacles in your way.

I'm not good when it comes to speaking, being likable, interacting with people, or dealing with stupid people. I could improve on that last problem and eliminate it. it would take radical change to improve the first three. even if I did, that doesn't change the fact that it'll remain a weakness.

I wasn't good at any of those things, either and yet, I deal with customers on a daily basis nowadays. Just fake it until you make it.

I have advantages that they don't, that's true. I think those people are in a better position than I am, in many ways.

Let's say you get what you wish for. A permanent job that you can dedicate your whole life to. During that time, you won't have a chance to test other jobs. Your fate would be sealed. The only experience from different workplaces you're going to get is right now before you get what you want.

It's kind of like dating. Once you get married and have kids, it's kind of hard to organize an orgy. You need to do that before things get serious.

sounds nice. long time ago, I applied for a job like that. forget what went wrong.

I no longer have a chance at those jobs. The thing you want is what I got and now I'm stuck. I'll never be able to apply to jobs like that.

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that's a long story.

my mother and aunt (separate instances, of course) were almost fired due to similar "opinions". I don't know how my mother dealt with her situation, but my aunt hired a lawyer (or threatened to) and they backed down. the problem with that situation is it can happen to anyone, and it generally happens to people others don't like. I dislike my fate being decided by my popularity.

that's an interesting point of view, but that also pertains to me keeping my current advantages. I might lose them.

no. in fact, I'd probably rather be homeless. but I'd rather not be homeless and lack an income.

sounds interesting. makes me wonder why the company hires him, rather than those Indians.

I understand. of the sites I was familiar with, they used the faces of western people in their profile. I never once thought to check what articles they might have written. don't even know if that's possible.

Why couldn't you do them?

I could, but it would be a waste of time.

I'm pretty sure you're talking about stocks in general. I was familiar specifically with cryptocurrency. I have friends that are as well. as it pertains to cryptocurrency, the option of leverage isn't being given to Americans. and even if it were, leverage is still tricky. I could probably use it well, though.

you've just made me realize that what I have is a confusion of aims. I've sen the exact contradiction now. when asked about surveys, "surveys are a waste of time." I still feel that way. when asked about jobs, "I want [a job] I'm suitable for, that I can evolve in." but I should find work. what I should search for is something easy to keep and requires little management.

from my perspective, it's like having the freedom to fuck any unattractive person you want. making this analogy a little creepy, I think my best option is to create a girl who gets angry with me if I don't want to have an orgy (not that orgies are actually appealing to me).

if I get exactly what I wish for, that'd be fine. probably. if not, I can cross that bridge when I come to it.

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that also pertains to me keeping my current advantages. I might lose them.

How can you lose your advantages? What might those be?

sounds interesting. makes me wonder why the company hires him, rather than those Indians.

They investigated when they saw that someone from India accessed their servers. That's how the employee who hired the Indian was found out. They fired him instantly.

I could, but it would be a waste of time.

It's not a waste of time if you earn money doing it.

I'm pretty sure you're talking about stocks in general. I was familiar specifically with cryptocurrency. I have friends that are as well. as it pertains to cryptocurrency, the option of leverage isn't being given to Americans. and even if it were, leverage is still tricky. I could probably use it well, though.

I was referring to cryptos, not the stocks. Anyways, not all exchanges offer leverage, but some do. Even if you're an American you can join some of them. I know plenty of Americans who use leverage.

"I want [a job] I'm suitable for, that I can evolve in." but I should find work. what I should search for is something easy to keep and requires little management.

So, will you search for an easy job or a challenging one then?

The job isn't supposed to make you feel good. That's the reason why they pay you to do it.

from my perspective, it's like having the freedom to fuck any unattractive person you want.

Are all attractive people already married?

I think my best option is to create a girl who gets angry with me if I don't want to have an orgy (not that orgies are actually appealing to me).

Good luck finding/creating a girl like that.

if I get exactly what I wish for, that'd be fine. probably. if not, I can cross that bridge when I come to it.

Let's say there's an alternative universe where you wish for what you already have in this universe. In a sense, you already got what you wished for in this universe. Yet, for some reason, you're not euphoric about your current situation. You're already at such a bridge, and you don't seem to be very engaged about crossing it.

I wanted to be a god, and I got my wish. In lucid dreams, my imagination is the only limit. Yet, I'm not really crossing any bridges. I just sit on a bench and wait for the dream to be over. I'm not even sure if there are any bridges to cross.

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I meant the advantages I gain from others supporting me.

that's unfortunate. as long as the work was done to satisfaction, he should have a job. in fact, if that solution were effective, he should've been promoted.

I could earn money gathering aluminum cans and selling them. I could earn more money with a regular job. that's what I meant when I said it's a waste of time.

then, could you do me a favor? ask them what exchanges they're using.

if I'm going to be doing it for the rest of my life, it better not feel bad. that's my concern. the longer I'll be doing it, the more I'll want out of it.

sorry. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I replied with that. what I attempted to say is that having the freedom to choose any non-skilled job you want is similar to having the freedom to choose any unattractive partner available. though, at the time, it didn't occur to me that I could "turn the lights off".

I've done more miraculous things.

are you saying that I'd get what I want, but be unhappy with it?

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I meant the advantages I gain from others supporting me.

Do they support you with resources and financially or in other ways? Can you do without their support?

that's unfortunate. as long as the work was done to satisfaction, he should have a job. in fact, if that solution were effective, he should've been promoted.

If I was the boss, I'd fire him as well and hire the Indian guy for 1/10th of salary. Why should I pay someone for playing Hearthstone all day?

I could earn money gathering aluminum cans and selling them. I could earn more money with a regular job. that's what I meant when I said it's a waste of time.

It doesn't sound like a waste of time to me.

then, could you do me a favor? ask them what exchanges they're using.

They mostly use Bitmex that allows you 100x leverage. I think you need a VPN to access it, though. Kraken also allows 5x leverage. There are also some decentralized exchanges that don't care where you're from. They each have pluses and minuses. There's no right answer. Here's a list of them if you want to study them:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XGkvNPoIWWHCWSogaMZe5-SsHaUFkbss6ufSg42Nz5g/edit

if I'm going to be doing it for the rest of my life, it better not feelbad.that's my concern. the longer I'll be doing it, the more I'll want out of it.

It feels to me as if you're searching for the holy grail. Perhaps changing them would actually make you feel better. It's like playing games. Do you really want to find the game and forbid yourself from playing any other games? Perhaps playing different games is the way to joyous life.

sorry. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I replied with that. what I attempted to say is that having the freedom to choose any non-skilled job you want is similar to having the freedom to choose any unattractive partner available. though, at the time, it didn't occur to me that I could "turn the lights off".

You're in it for the money, you're in it for the sex. You get what you want, and that's what that matters the most.

are you saying that I'd get what I want, but be unhappy with it?

You presuppose that getting what you want will bring you happiness. People who get rich oftentimes don't find happiness. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but perhaps you're chasing a dream that won't be as pretty if you actually catch it.
A wolf that chases the Moon will waste its life away. Even if the wolf were to catch it, nothing glorious would have come of it.

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yes. no, not currently.

in my head, I thought: promote him to a position where he can continue to find solutions like this.

it depends on the amount of money one could gain. I want to have enough total income to support myself.

yes, Americans would need a VPN to access Bitmex. from what I've heard though, the American government seems to be cracking down on that sort of thing. have not heard about Kraken having leverage. thanks for the link.

I don't want an unsatisfactory life. I don't know what course of action to take in order to avoid that. but I imagine avoiding working at a job you hate for the rest of your life is a start.

I don't know if that's the proper analogy to use anymore. ultimately, I want to be happy. if "sex with a plethora of unattractive girls" does it, then.. 🤷. if not, then that's not what I want to aim for. I'm pretty sure having lots of money goes partially into making me happy.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be ecstatic, but I could do better for myself and others if I were.

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I want to have enough total income to support myself.

Does it cost a lot to support you? When worst comes into play, one only needs food to sustain oneself.

have not heard about Kraken having leverage. thanks for the link.

Kraken has 5x leverage and you can also short 5x.

I don't want an unsatisfactory life. I don't know what course of action to take in order to avoid that.

Think about your daydreams. What do they involve? Is there a way to make some of them real?

I imagine avoiding working at a job you hate for the rest of your life is a start.

We change during our lives. We adapt. I used to hate my job because it was too hard, now I love it because I know I'm the most qualified person for the tasks I do.

I don't know if that's the proper analogy to use anymore. ultimately, I want to be happy.

You already know which things bring you joy. Would doing those things not bring you happiness?

if "sex with a plethora of unattractive girls" does it, then.. 🤷. if not, then that's not what I want to aim for.

Perhaps it's a piece of the solution. You can always stop if it turns out that it's making you miserable.

I'm pretty sure having lots of money goes partially into making me happy.

Everybody thinks that. But when it happens to them they oftentimes get depressed.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be ecstatic, but I could do better for myself and others if I were.

I imagine it's like wishing to have the ultimate legendary armor when you start playing a game. As it turns out, trying to get that armor is the fun part. After you get it, it usually doesn't take long before you stop playing the game.
If challenges are the way to happiness, having loads of money might be detrimental.

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true. I'm working on it.

I have an account there. maybe I can make something of it.

what makes you suggest looking into daydreams?

what is your job, if you don't mind me asking? how did that change?

I feel as if I'm living a fraction of life. I'm not sure anything wold make me happy for sure.

that's true, too.

as I understand it, those people get depressed because they have misconceptions surrounding it. ex. it'll make life easier. in the case of men, it'll make them more attractive. they don't realize that more money means more troubles surrounding that money.

I don't see it that way. especially not in life. if life were that game, getting that ultimate legendary armor means you can do things only someone with that armor can do. new doors are open to you, based on the advantages that armor provides you with, and your ability to make use of them.

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what makes you suggest looking into daydreams?

Oftentimes, they're a reflection of our desires. It's a place people escape to because it feels nice. It's the events in the dreams that make you feel nice.

what is your job, if you don't mind me asking? how did that change?

I'm a programmer. When I started, I had headaches from the mental strain. It felt like I was trying to decipher hieroglyphs.

I feel as if I'm living a fraction of life. I'm not sure anything would make me happy for sure.

If you had to point out at something you're missing in your life (besides money) what would that thing be?

as I understand it, those people get depressed because they have misconceptions surrounding it. ex. it'll make life easier. in the case of men, it'll make them more attractive. they don't realize that more money means more troubles surrounding that money.

That and lack of a challenge/purpose. Playing a game on god mode may sound like fun at first, but being stuck playing that game forever gets stale.

I don't see it that way. especially not in life. if life were that game, getting that ultimate legendary armor means you can do things only someone with that armor can do. new doors are open to you, based on the advantages that armor provides you with, and your ability to make use of them.

That's true, some doors do open for you. But the majority of the game becomes useless. Sure, you could take of the armor and go kill rats and boars, but why would you want to downgrade yourself? It makes no sense for you to kill lowlife if you're essentially a god. Giving yourself useless challenges that require you to play at a fraction of your strength would feel like a waste of time.

Rich people oftentimes end up playing the doors that are only open for them. Given that they're mostly not euphoric people, I suspect that those games aren't an endless source of joy.

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my daydreams aren't very realistic.

I'm a programmer.

*thinking of majoring in computer science*

a girl who gets angry if I don't want to have orgies? nah. not really. things I want to pursue that I can pursue. learning things I want to learn, then making use of those things. makes me think scientist...

I would never say that's a lack of challenge. you discover that you're 1 million dollars richer, people will bring challenges to your doorstep. even if they don't, that presents challenges innately. for example, "How do I stay rich?". challenges don't cease just because you've become powerful. they either become greater, or your power stagnates.

you could outsource that work to others, once you've become successful enough through killing rats and boars. perhaps even dragons. your job now is to do only what ultimate legendary armor folk can do. even if there were no such challenges, playing as you've described helps you to develops new strengths. there's nothing more formidable than a person who has strength even in the absence of his usual strength.

maybe not. but technology has to improve.

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my daydreams aren't very realistic.

But the themes those daydreams portray are. You can find the same themes in the RL. If your daydreams involve people, then people are perhaps what you seek.

*thinking of majoring in computer science*

I hope you love math. Lots of math and very little of a anything else. When I majored in Computer science, I couldn't even write Hello world.

things I want to pursue that I can pursue. learning things I want to learn, then making use of those things. makes me think scientist...

What's standing in your way?

I would never say that's a lack of challenge. you discover that you're 1 million dollars richer, people will bring challenges to your doorstep

Not all challenges make one happy. Those that feel like obligation are oftentimes a burden.

"How do I stay rich?". challenges don't cease just because you've become powerful. they either become greater, or your power stagnates.

The lust for power is never-ending. It's like a hunger that cannot be sated. Being hungry all the time is no fun.

you could outsource that work to others, once you've become successful enough through killing rats and boars. perhaps even dragons. your job now is to do only what ultimate legendary armor folk can do. even if there were no such challenges, playing as you've described helps you to develops new strengths. there's nothing more formidable than a person who has strength even in the absence of his usual strength.

When a game has nothing more to offer, people usually stop playing it.

You can make up 10 different ways of looking at the paint dry, but it still won't make it ecstatic.

maybe not. but technology has to improve.

I suspect the technology is one of the causes of the depression outbreak in the world. Technology shows you how small you are and how little you know. You're not the master of your world and you can never be because the world became too big. It's so simple when you craft yourself an axe and go out killing boars. You're the master of your destiny. But when you realize that your awesome world is just a fraction of everything, you feel obliged to venture beyond. And the beyond is never ending, and you stay, forever lost. Nothing is simple anymore.

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I don't think I get it, right now. not completely. go into that a bit more?

it should probably worry me that I don't even know what you're talking about.

I'm not sure "science" interests me. even of the things I study, whether or not they can be called science, they interest me and no others. if there are others it could interest, a setting where it could be presented, I don't know of it. not that I've tried seeking it out. regarding those things I'm interested in that I feel others aren't, currently I look for a way to better my processes of questioning and thinking -- not just looking to "do better", but to attain some sort of mastery over it. I can be an effective thinker, but I am grossly inefficient. thinking of scientific things that interest me though, I would like to know which power sources are the most powerful ones we could ever hope to utilize. I would really like for there to be more of what I personally refer to as "survival technology", basically things that you could use that could be easily utilized, especially by poor people, to thrive even during trying times. this light is an example of what I mean. I think as we live now, the world is in a bit of trouble. more on that in the final paragraph. edit: the thing I like most about science is that it's one of the few things in the world that can generate wealth practically out of thin air. more cost-effective ways of making things makes life easier for everyone. an example of such here.

I definitely agree with that. not every challenge is worth it. low reward, high risk challenges, for instance.

you're a living creature. either you "hunger all the time", or you slowly deteriorate due to starvation. the point isn't to lust for power, but to have multiple aims worth achieving.

you're looking at it in terms of "what can I do to make this game more exciting?". that's a question you ask of a dying game. if life were a "dying game," you'd just "quit." in my opinion, life's not a dying game, it just has instances of boredom. but it also has excitement. the real question is: "now that I've reached this point, what can I do in this game that I'd find exciting to engage in?"

I think technology is definitely a part of it. I think the other part of it is so much of life being so utterly reliant upon it. for example, it used to be tat you'd hand-wash clothes. though you didn't want to, you did, and this was an activity you focused on. it kept you active, I suppose. laundry appliances eliminate that activity altogether. now, you just wait and transport the clothes. nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but the world has been built in such a way that you must do that if you can, because otherwise you're wasting time being inefficient. most people use the most efficient means if possible. this leads to the individual being "activity-less", or engaging repetitively in things that do nothing to improve them. for example, you drive 30 minutes to work, you're sitting that entire 30 minutes. if you walked 30 minutes to work, you're making use of your body. I believe that has a ton of unseen consequences. technology has to improve, but in more ways than simply getting the job done.

I don't think I get it, right now. not completely. go into that a bit more?
It's not about the exact events you think about. It's the common threads that connect all your daydreams. Perhaps it's romance, tragedy, horror or something else. When you identify the common things you think about, you'll identify the aspects of life that resonate with you.

it should probably worry me that I don't even know what you're talking about.

That's okay, the thing I was relaying wasn't that profound, anyway.

I'm not sure "science" interests me. even of the things I study, whether or not they can be called science, they interest me and no others. if there are others it could interest, a setting where it could be presented, I don't know of it. not that I've tried seeking it out. regarding those things I'm interested in that I feel others aren't, currently I look for a way to better my processes of questioning and thinking -- not just looking to "do better", but to attain some sort of mastery over it. I can be an effective thinker, but I am grossly inefficient.

Perhaps the field of psychology could give you some answers.

I would like to know which power sources are the most powerful ones we could ever hope to utilize. I would really like for there to be more of what I personally refer to as "survival technology", basically things that you could use that could be easily utilized, especially by poor people, to thrive even during trying times.this lightis an example of what I mean. I think as we live now, the world is in a bit of trouble. more on that in the final paragraph.

Such technology will go absolete with time. Why use something half-assed if you can use the real thing. Right now, we still have 3. world countries, but I don't think that will last forever.

the point isn't to lust for power, but to have multiple aims worth achieving.

I agree with that. It's like the games. Epic gear shouldn't be the goal because it looks pretty. It's the doors that it unlocks that make it worth it.

you're looking at it in terms of "what can I do to make this game more exciting?". that's a question you ask of a dying game. if life were a "dying game," you'd just "quit." in my opinion, life's not a dying game, it just has instances of boredom. but it also has excitement. the real question is: "now that I've reached this point, what can I do in this game that I'd find exciting to engage in?"

I see lots of similarities between life and a dying game. The problem is, it's the only game in town. Even the dying game is better than watching the paint dry.

the world has been built in such a way that you must do that if you can, because otherwise you're wasting time being inefficient.

I think the strive for efficiency is a big part of it. We can't compare in efficiency to the machines. Nothing we do will ever be good enough.

technology has to improve, but in more ways than simply getting the job done.

I think VR will turn the things around. Humans will escape into it ever more. They will seek out the things that they miss in life.