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5994132 Wow, that's some turnaround. The last I heard China was still letting the absorption of Hong Kong sink in. I can understand why they'd want to change so much though, given that their biggest cities require you to wear a mask when you go outside.

Even if that money was going to third world countries, the problems I mentioned still apply. Vague goals and no accountability do not honest diplomacy make, no matter which country you happen to be dealing with. Unless the treaty changes to make itself more reliable it's not worth being a part of.

You can look up the examples I mentioned. The actual immigration number was around a 70% reduction, and the economy is a feedback loop. People think it's getting better, so they spend more freely and open new businesses, which makes the economy actually better, which leads to more optimism, etc. Trump basically just has to keep the rhetoric up and people's perceptions do the rest.

Remember, I didn't vote for Trump. I mostly find him amusing, an interesting contrast with Obama, and think that the media's reaction to him is so overblown it's almost comical.


Metallic glasses also require metals like titanium, gold, silver, and copper, which are much more expensive than iron. Given the customization we see in the series and the modern state of 3D printing, though, he'll probably be able to make fresh armor plating on the fly. Think Big Hero Six manufacturing tech. An investment in a printer that costs as much as a small car might be able to recreate his entire suit from scratch. Alternatively, we could make it something like scale mail or a coat of plates, both of which are made of many small repeatable pieces that are then stitched or riveted together. Instead of remaking a single passive plate every time it gets dented, Midoriya could code in a half a dozen fresh scales to replace the broken ones. He could even recycle the metal, since the low melting point would make reforging much easier.

I'm a member of the SCA, and we do full scale medieval combat as one of our biggest activities. You totally could dress as an Aztec warrior if you wanted, but you'd need a certain minimum of gear before you could go on the field. To be precise, you need a strong enough helmet, a gorget (gor-shay) for you neck, padding all over, knee and elbow protection, gauntlets for your hands, and kidney protection. Naturally, I wear way more than the bare minimum of gear because I don't like getting bruises the size of my big toes. A good suit costs several hundred bucks, though I got around that by making most of mine by hand. There's nothing quite like making a suit of armor when it comes to learning how armor in general works.

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Metallic glasses also require metals like titanium, gold, silver, and copper, which are much more expensive than iron. Given the customization we see in the series and the modern state of 3D printing, though, he'll probably be able to make fresh armor plating on the fly. Think Big Hero Six manufacturing tech. An investment in a printer that costs as much as a small car might be able to recreate his entire suit from scratch. Alternatively, we could make it something like scale mail or a coat of plates, both of which are made of many small repeatable pieces that are then stitched or riveted together. Instead of remaking a single passive plate every time it gets dented, Midoriya could code in a half a dozen fresh scales to replace the broken ones. He could even recycle the metal, since the low melting point would make reforging much easier.

Metallic glass really seems like a hard sell to me, especially as you would be hard pressed to find a harder-to-make material. While I hadn't even heard of the material for like 10 years, I do know that its pretty much impossible to make outside of a highly specialised industrial setting. It has to be cast, and once the die is full, it has to be aggressively chilled. And if what you're saying is true, of having to cool at more than a degree per second, I wouldn't be surprised if they were chilling it by circulating it with a cryogenic liquid, or even dunking it. And then to think about what crazy warping would be induced by the chilling itself, so I doubt anything made of the material doesn't need some time under a CN machine. And then, of course, that the die would be made of a normal metal, so the crazy chilling process would cause horrible fatigue, possibly making the die itself disposable. In all, not something to be done economically or at home, one way or another.
What does exist is 3d CN machining and a gazzillion different techniques of 3d printing. And tabletop, high temperature kilns, and similar autoclaves and microwave furnaces. And perhaps, for cynics like me, there may also be the option of buying boxes of carbide/zircon/ceramic/whatever disks to sew, like sequins, into clothing.
Besides: Izuku won't need to really think of this unless, once he graduates, he decides to either go solo or field a whole team. Considering that he's on grade 10 (of 12), and that the canon is barely up to his fourth month, he's got time.

I'm a member of the SCA, and we do full scale medieval combat as one of our biggest activities. You totally could dress as an Aztec warrior if you wanted, but you'd need a certain minimum of gear before you could go on the field. To be precise, you need a strong enough helmet, a gorget (gor-shay) for you neck, padding all over, knee and elbow protection, gauntlets for your hands, and kidney protection. Naturally, I wear way more than the bare minimum of gear because I don't like getting bruises the size of my big toes. A good suit costs several hundred bucks, though I got around that by making most of mine by hand. There's nothing quite like making a suit of armor when it comes to learning how armor in general works.

Dude: I believe I would be universally loathed at a SCA meetup.
First of all, the Ichcahuipilli (Aztec armour) was made of salted cotton. That is: multi-layered cotton (one to two fingers thick) that was then made to grow salt crystals (by being wetted with brine and being let dry in the shade). As is, they were so effective that many conquistadors abandoned their metal plate in favour of it. The thing that would make me be hated, however, is that even a full body armour would cost me about USD$25. I would buy some three or four of those ponchos that we make for Yanks to buy, at no more than some USD$5 each, then I would cut every armour piece, stitch the layers together, salt them, and be done with it.
Secondly, Aztec warriors were apparently very, very fast, and every bit as loud. Their elite were the Spartans of their time, trained since childhood both in the arts of combat and psychological warfare. Spanish conquistadors also reported that they would sing, dance, scream and blow whistles even as they fought, and here I'm taking the dance to mean that they would be quite capable of jumping around as lightly as if they were naked. As such, to be accurate I will need to act like I was mocking the weight of everybody else's armours.
Thirdly, outside of combat, I would likely wear little else than loincloths, capes and body paint, and my activities would include niceties such as bloodletting, bathing trice a day (with soap: Aztecs used soap), and worshipping the sunrise. And probably being unbothered by nudity.

Actually, I don't think I'll go. I don't think you need the reputation of having crazies for friends.



Wow, that's some turnaround. The last I heard China was still letting the absorption of Hong Kong sink in. I can understand why they'd want to change so much though, given that their biggest cities require you to wear a mask when you go outside.

(A) That's the one advantage of an absolutist monarchy with actual absolute power: if something needs to be done, it is done.
(B) China is also quite scared of rising sea levels, due to the sheer population that they have at risk.

(C) China is also set to lead on carbon sequestration. Google: "Great Green Wall". Between 2000 and 2010, they planted an area "slightly larger than California", even if some studies say that the trees that actually took roots are only "equivalent to Maryland".

Even if that money was going to third world countries, the problems I mentioned still apply. Vague goals and no accountability do not honest diplomacy make, no matter which country you happen to be dealing with. Unless the treaty changes to make itself more reliable it's not worth being a part of.

If I was your country, I would have taken it as a huge opportunity to stimulate the domestic industry.
First step: stipulate that the US will only contribute in domestically-made product, and argue that you are doing that because you don't want the money to be diverted.
Second step: as a stimulus to the industry, allow it to pay its taxes with product, "sold" to the US government at something like 20% below market price. The industry would jump on it, because even a 50% discount still counts as profit. The US government then creates similar programs across the supply chain: free-shipping-as-taxes with seagoing transportation companies, and "Camp Africa" with installation companies, so to supply installation and maintenance.
Third Step: set a modest sales tax over the energy made by these installations, which is halved between the local country and the US until the installation is actually paid for.
Fourth step: set a small interest rate over the credit, both to stimulate that the money flow isn't stalled, and to eventually get a small profit. This is what you did with the Panama Canal, isn't it?

You can look up the examples I mentioned. The actual immigration number was around a 70% reduction, and the economy is a feedback loop. People think it's getting better, so they spend more freely and open new businesses, which makes the economy actually better, which leads to more optimism, etc. Trump basically just has to keep the rhetoric up and people's perceptions do the rest.

Here's to hope that his momentum holds, or that his protectionistic policies are repelled.

5995905 Actually, one of the metal's biggest selling points is that it requires no machining at all. Caught me by surprise too back when I was researching it. Having no structure means it doesn't grow or shrink as it heats and cools, making it excellent for parts that require very precise fits. Also, they've improved the casting techniques and the formula of the metallic glass itself to require less intensive cooling, allowing for the material to be used in various small objects, notably golf club heads and phone cases. The stuff is already on the market and not super expensive, which suggests that it isn't that hard to produce. It's just difficult to make into large single plates. Besides, the fact that something that can act as an adamantium analogue in real life is awesome all on its own.

No, Midoriya does not need to know the inner workings of his suit. I just like designing this stuff. :twilightsheepish:

...You do realize you could sell those right? I know a large number of fighters who would be very interested in shaving a couple dozen pounds off their armor. All the big SCA events have a Merchants Row, and Gulf Wars, a big event on the border of Mississippi and Louisiana, has no less than four competing armor shops. You could totally make a bunch of salt armor sheets, put them up for sale at $30 each, and walk home with a tidy profit. You'd have to run them by the marshals (our referees) to make sure they're acceptable, but if they're as strong as you say and historically accurate I see no reason for them to turn you down. Considering that chopped up pickle barrels are an acceptable armor material, you probably don't have anything to worry about.

As for your manner on the field, a standard practice is to slam our swords against our shields and shout war cries as we charge into battle. You don't sound crazy, you sound awesome.

Besides, the SCA is full of crazy people, man. Even with all that stuff you'd barely stand out. Actually, you're more likely to get mobbed by Pelicans (the members of our historical arts section) wanting to learn more about the Aztecs than avoided. Being historically accurate gets you a lot of leeway, and since you'd be doing a culture and time period not usually seen you might end up as a minor celebrity. Also, once you've seen half a dozen overweight women in belly dancer outfits in a single day, you really stop caring about that sort of thing.

It should tell you everything you need to know about the SCA that everything you just described would actually help you fit in. You could even start your own Kingdom based in Mexico who all dress like Aztecs and Mayans. For reference, the SCA is divided into Kingdoms like so:

We don't have a Mexican branch yet. How do you feel about founding it?


It's too bad then that most totalitarian governments are only interested in lining their own pockets.

I wouldn't know about the Panama canal in detail, but that does sound good. I edited in an extra paragraph about holding back more money until the initial payment had results, and you can add that to the pile.

Eh, the U.S. couldn't become isolationist even if we tried. We'd be back to global trade within the month once our fresh produce and cheap consumer items started to run out. The most Trump could do would be to keep us from becoming too globalist.

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...You do realize you could sell those right? I know a large number of fighters who would be very interested in shaving a couple dozen pounds off their armor. All the big SCA events have a Merchants Row, and Gulf Wars, a big event on the border of Mississippi and Louisiana, has no less than four competing armor shops. You could totally make a bunch of salt armor sheets, put them up for sale at $30 each, and walk home with a tidy profit. You'd have to run them by the marshals (our referees) to make sure they're acceptable, but if they're as strong as you say and historically accurate I see no reason for them to turn you down. Considering that chopped up pickle barrels are an acceptable armor material, you probably don't have anything to worry about.

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It could be interesting to explore. Of course, I would need to attend once just to thoroughly test the armour and another to explore marketability. Only real problems I can foresee is luggage weight and volume, as the armour must be finished before being salted. And finally, I don't know how rigid the armour gets, so I may actually need to cast a mould of my torso. Something I could do, from my very first meeting, would be printing a booklet with the technique, and selling copies at USD$5-$10.
Yeah: I think the booklet would be far more profitable. Shipping the armour would do away with its cheapness, and cheap, thick blankets can be bought anywhere.

We don't have a Mexican branch yet. How do you feel about founding it?

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Once again, that would be something to explore. For one thing, I don't currently have the time or disposable income to begin organising, but I know that both the INAH (National Institute of History and Anthropology) and the Mexican Army would jump in once something's in place; the INAH between keeping us accurate and for the chances at experimental archaeology, while the Mexican Army would just to it out of national pride.

I wouldn't know about the Panama canal in detail, but that does sound good. I edited in an extra paragraph about holding back more money until the initial payment had results, and you can add that to the pile.

I don't remember the whole deal with the canal, but basically you bought the abandoned French project on an elaborate contract with Panama, where Panama was paying you for building the canal by letting you administer it for the next 99 years. Of course, it was all carefully worked to be win-win, where the US Navy had preferential treatment (which was why they took over the project in the first place), and Panama both profited per every ship crossing, and had the authority to limit or pause the use of the country's most important fresh water reservoir.

5996405 Well, the first step is probably making a sheet without shaping it first to refine the technique. Once you can hit it with a rattan stick with all your might, and it doesn't bend, it's ready. Then you can start worrying about shipping. The crafting doesn't have to be historically accurate, by the way. I made my heater shield curve by parking a car on it while the glue dried.

I've heard of SCA groups teaming up with the police for riot practice, so that's not that far fetched. The thing to remember is that SCA stands for The Society for Creative Anachronism. Having fun is more important than historical accuracy, unlike our civil war reenacting cousins. The first SCA event ever was just a big costume party that everyone thought was so fun they wanted to do it again. And again. That was over fifty years ago.

Also, we have gotten completely off topic. What's next?

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Also, we have gotten completely off topic. What's next?

Well, I think we would need to put the story progress in paper, arc by arc.

Entrance Exam Arc:
First part: Izuku probably never sees All Mighty. All he sees is an autograph in his book. He later walks by the rampage, reacts and catalyses the villain's defeat. He resolves that he too can become a hero, for his smarts alone.
Second part: He receives his dad book, and begins his (mostly) self imposed training regime at the beach.
Third part: He meets Ochako and Iida. He takes the exam. He does poorly in the third part, but is mostly unconcerned due to knowing that he dominated the interviews.

Quirk Apprehension Test Arc:
He exchanges greetings with some of his new classmates. Eraser Head then tells them to get on their PE gear, and once downstairs, tells them that the lowest score gets expelled. Izuku is among the only ones who take the optional multiple Go games, where Kacchan gets beaten like a drum all around, Tsuyu shows interest in Izuku by ignoring her other games in order to give him a challenge, Ochako only manages to defeat Kacchan, and Izuku is the overall top scorer.
At the end of the event, Eraser Head reveals that at most he could have suspended them, and that their scores will actually come to decide which PE class they would be going to: Tossers' class, runners' class, general PE class, et al. Either Tooru or Aoyama sigh in relief, considering that one of them would have most likely been the lowest scorer.

At this point he goes to his various classes, including his command seminar.
I also believe we had agreed that Pony's Intro mini-arc would be placed here, after a week of classes had gone by.

Battle Trial Arc:
Pairings remain the same as in canon (down to the replacement between Martial Arts Kid and my OCs).
Bakogou rushes down to lay an ambush, but Ochako and Izuku humiliate him by using Izuku's quadcopters and Ochako's antigravity to jump to the top of the building. Izuku then spams a few flashbangs and, while Ochako captures Iida, he captures the nuke.
What I could suggest here is that, after class is dismissed, Bakogou corners Izuku for "making him look bad". Izuku mentions that all he did was avoid the obvious trap, and Bakogou gives him a power-enhanced slap that almost sends him to the hospital. As is, though, All Mighty rounds the corner, comments that he knew something like this would happen around somebody with as obvious a chip on his shoulder as Bakogou, and verbally rips him a new one, stating that if his way of heroics is to pull down those who are so far ahead of him as Izuku, then Bakogou should reconsider what are his objectives for having started hero education in the first place. He then helps Izuku to stand up, dusts him, and tells Bakogou to reconsider his attitude during his 5 day in-school suspension, starting the next morning. Izuku hobbles to the nurse's office while Bakogou leaves with his tail between the legs.

Of course, the situation with Pony continues to develop. She catches him coming out of school, then they have a few more days going too fast, Izuku's Dad writes his chat for the girl, and they resume a normal speed.

Unforseen Simulation Joint Arc:
The villains attack, and due to Izuku not having One-For-All, All Mighty barely escapes with his life.
All Mighty then offers him his power from a hospital bed, but Izuku respectfully declines.
(and that's all we agreed upon this arc).
I suggest that, this night, Pony has an impromptu sleepover with Izuku, who was staying late in his home, not letting go, until his mum offered her a nightshirt and tells them both to put two bedrolls in the living room and sleep there.

(And we haven't really discussed beyond Season 1)
I believe we should now finish up discussing the coming arcs. And once that's done, I can help you generate a chapter structure (if you don't want to just write a single chapter per arc, however short or long they may be), then you write, I proofread, and you publish.



Well, the first step is probably making a sheet without shaping it first to refine the technique. Once you can hit it with a rattan stick with all your might, and it doesn't bend, it's ready. Then you can start worrying about shipping. The crafting doesn't have to be historically accurate, by the way. I made my heater shield curve by parking a car on it while the glue dried.

Salting is so much the easy part: all I have to do is prepare the brine, then dunk the piece and let it dry. If I don't like the hardness, I can either pass it through brine again, or I can soak it in fresh, warm water if I want to soften it up and start all over again. The hard part will be sewing the layers together to properly form the tridimensional contours of my body, and this has to be done before salting, because salting will make sewing impossible.
Furthermore, historical accounts say that a ichcahuipilli was supposed to be arrow, cut and tear resistant, but also flexible and relatively lightweight. I therefore don't believe it was meant for more than one step of salting.

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What I could suggest here is that, after class is dismissed, Bakogou corners Izuku for "making him look bad".

Pretty good, except Midoriya should probably put Bakogou in a behind-the-back arm bar when he swings, demonstrating his canon knowledge combined with his new rationalist mindset. All Mighty (The American translation is 'All Might,' but I like this one better) then walks in on two of them as Bakogou is throwing explosions everywhere to get loose while Midoriya carefully stays out of the line of fire.

Also, All Mighty is getting weaker for two reasons: 1. he keeping pushing himself too far, shortening his leash, and 2. Because he passed the torch his version of the quirk is fading. In our world neither of those things has happened, so while All Mighty isn't at full power, he's much stronger than canon. He'll probably get out with overextending for the first time, cutting his limit from three to two hours. Also, I'm not sure that Midoriya would be strong enough to turn him down at this point. Maybe that battle made Midoriya realize that he didn't want to be All Mighty, but unless we move to cover that he'll still say yes. Maybe he should get the offer after the tournament, when he gives a good enough show to stand among the most powerful of the first years. Then he might be capable of turning him down.

As for later arcs, I haven't read past the current point of season two yet, which is the finale of the tournament. However, his solution to the obstacle course was pure rational genius, so it needs only minor tweaking to make it less dangerous, such as a bit of physics to make sure he's headed in the right direction.

When I'm writing chapters, I tend to set a word count that varies from story to story. Whenever I hit that count, I finish up the scene and publish. Currently I'm aiming for 4500-5000 words per chapter, which is meaty without being overwhelming.


You should make some just to make sure the process works, but you should also be aware that armor has three distinct parts: the outer shell, the inner padding, and the rigging that ties it all together. These sheets sound like an outer shell component, something that can stop piercing and slashing weapons but doesn't soften the blow behind them. Without padding to cushion the impact a sword can still break bones despite not penetrating.

All SCA weapons are crushing weapons, clubs and staffs, even though they're painted up to look like swords, axes, spears, etc. This armor will need to block against those as well as it would against real steel.

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Sorry to have taken a while to answer: life.

As for later arcs, I haven't read past the current point of season two yet, which is the finale of the tournament.

I believe you should get chopping. In chapter 122, there's an upperclassman introduced to the story, a student that we later learn had been cherry picked by the school to receive One For All: one with a relatively minor power but with such work ethics that was between the top most future heroes in the school. And is in fact quite capable of wiping the floor with the entire 1A class.

Also, All Mighty is getting weaker for two reasons: 1. he keeping pushing himself too far, shortening his leash, and 2. Because he passed the torch his version of the quirk is fading. In our world neither of those things has happened, so while All Mighty isn't at full power, he's much stronger than canon.

You are totally right.
In fact, I believe that All Mighty would have been on the bus with everybody else, thus attended the ambush, jumped forward along with Eraser Head, and while they dealt with the courtyard, Black Hole Lady would have had the same troubles and the majority of the kids would have been sent to the mini-ambushes. Thing is, with All Mighty present from the get-go, with him teamed up with Earser Head, and with him stronger and more durable than canon, they would likely deal with the courtyard before reinforcements arrive, and would want to try and get the children out of their ambushes; thing is, by this point all kids have either defeated or escaped their own ambushes and have either holed up or are making it to the courtyard.
And say: once the reinforcements have arrived and the leaders have retreated, and thus the reinforcements can focus on cleanup, All Mighty gathers up the kids that made it to the courtyard and asks them to give him a quick summary. Izuku is modest, but his squad perform a glowing review on him. A few minutes later, All Mighty dismisses the lot but discreetly asks Izuku to stick around, and they, along with Eraser Head, find a quiet corner so All Mighty can collapse (and deflate) in peace. All Mighty explains his power, explains about his injury and comments that he needs a successor, but tells Izuku that Izuku has most of the year to either accept or decline. Izuku is thus left to go to the improvised infirmary to deal with his minor injuries.

Here would come the problem, though: how does Izuku seriously impress his classmates? As of this moment, all he would have, so far, would have been the combat simulation exercise and his not-exactly-impressive PE scores, plus him being the only one in his class in command-level in Combat Theory. You and I will thus need to sketch the ensuing fight, blow by blow, and make sure that Izuku makes every possible correct choice.


About the armour:
Honestly, I do have the contacts with the INAH, (the National Institute for Archaeology and History), so I believe I will wait until I can get a consultation. And before getting there, I will need to have some disposable money at hand, and I'm not currently in that position.

6002656 An effectively quirkless person capable of kicking everyone butt at once? Does he act like a Rationalist?

Maybe Midoriya shouldn't go on the boat. If he ended up, say, in the fire zone, where his gas mask and grenades would be the most effective, he might be able to take out an entire group of villains at once. That would definitely qualify for a glowing review. Other than that, I think that fixes the offer question. Midoriya will be tempted to accept but have a nagging feeling he shouldn't, which will prevent from accepting until he is strong enough to say no.

Oh, I know: have him give out communicators to all his friends. They'd be useful in the intended training exercise, and being able to coordinate despite being scattered would be a major advantage.

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An effectively quirkless person capable of kicking everyone butt at once? Does he act like a Rationalist?

He beat the lot, like a cheap drum, with little more than muscle power and ingenuity. Although he isn't "almost quirkless". It would be far more about his quirk being terribly double edged.
His quirk is intangibility. Although not as imagined with a ghost: he stops being capable of interacting with the universe around him, becoming blind, deaf, unable to breathe and free-falling through the floor. Adding insult to injury, while he becomes blind, he is still visible, and his power doesn't carry his clothing with him. Its only positive is that he cannot become entombed in solid rock: when he deactivates his quirk, his fall curve becomes a parabola that forcibly returns him to the surface. His quirk training, however, was about him learning to activate it selectively rather than over his entire body, so can use it to dodge, or to walk through walls, rather than just keep falling through floors.
And no, he doesn't act too much like a rationalist. More like slightly sociopathical, where he's always smiling full of cheer, apparently oblivious that everybody around him is very uncomfortable about his lack of clothing. He also happens to be a member of the Terrible Three: a squad of the three best hero students in the school, where they all are somehow unhinged. (Which makes you wonder about what kind of stresses they have gone through.)

If he ended up, say, in the fire zone, where his gas mask and grenades would be the most effective, he might be able to take out an entire group of villains at once. 

A) In the fire zone, his various grenades would either be ineffective or too dangerous to use.
+ The smoke grenade or tear gas grenade: the canon shows the area to be fairly smoke-free. Which means that the fire is well ventilated, and will rapidly sweep up the smoke or gas.
+ The flash-bang: for fires to be as high as they were in canon, every building in the area had to be wooden. The flash-bang could start a cave-in if it goes off close enough to a weakening structure.
+ The concussive grenade: same, but worse, than the flash-bang.
+ The NOx canister: Nitros oxide happens to be used as an oxidiser. It could start a flashover and roast anybody nearby; furthermore, the flashover could help to transform the blaze into a firestorm.

B) Precisely because of his suit, Izuku is as vulnerable as Tsuyu in the fire zone. Remember that Lithium-ion batteries can explode if pierced, or if they overheat? While among the villain population in general it wouldn't be known, I'll bet you that among pyros, at least one will know and try to exploit Izuku's battery pack.

C) Let me here call dibs on the fire zone: I really disliked the canon treatment to this area, and want my OCs to be here along with Aoyama and Tooru (the only two kids that in canon who hid rather than engage in combat). Furthermore, I want my kids to experience death, and only the fire zone would be inherently dangerous enough for villains to die just by being left behind.

Well, the Unforeseen Simulation Joint had seven areas:
+ Access ramp and Central Courtyard
+ Hurricane area
+ Sinking ship area (titled Flood area in canon)
+ Conflagration area
+ Earthquake area (titled Ruins area in canon)
+ Landslide area
+ Mountain area
As to the kids, Tooru and Shoto were sent to the landslide, Kirishima and Kacchan were sent to the ruins, Koda (bunny boy) and Tokoyami were sent to the storm, Martial Arts Kid was apparently sent alone to the fire area, Kaminari, Jirou and Momo were sent to the mountain, Mineta, Tsuyu and Izuku were sent to the water, Aoyama hid wherever he was sent, and a a small majority stayed at the entrance with #13.

If you wanted to shuffle things around: well, other than in the fire, most people would find themselves at a horrible disadvantage in the water zone. You could send Tsuyu to the ruins, Mineta to the mountain, and Kaminari, Sero and Kirishima to the water with Izuku. Izuku falls in and his suit immediately deploys floaters, making him rise. Izuku, being smart, rolls belly-down to be able to see into the water, and unconsciously hands a grenade. The shark man still attacks him, but Izuku deals with him by shoving a flash-bang down his throat. (This could be izuku's first kill, btw.) Izuku deploys his copters but leaves them in low, so they can just tug him around on the surface of the water.
He circles the boat and finds another villain trying to pull Sero underwater, so Izuku makes a quick calculation and chucks another flashbang, which hits Sero in the facemask, bounces into the water and leaves a submerged villain floating unconscious, with his ears bleeding profusely. Izuku reaches Sero, who is conscious but quite shaken, and begins tugging him while he keeps looking for classmates.
Looking down, he sees a drowned Kirishima. He is unable to do something, but remembers that he has Sero with him and prods him. Sero reacts, shoots some tape and pulls Kirishima up. Kirishima isn't breathing (obviously), so Izuku asks Sero if he can do resuscitation, then tells him to get on the boat while he keeps looking for more classmates.
He finishes a round not finding anybody but villains, who keep their distance in fear of his grenades. He thus revs up his copters and flies on board.
He finds Kirishima coughing up water while Kaminari holds him. Happens that Kaminari had landed on the boat, but landed quite badly and has a broken femur.
Izuku stands on the highest point and surveys the surroundings, eyeing the villains, who have gathered into two lumps around the two villains he dispatched. Izuku shudders at the shark-man, though: that patch of water has gotten awfully red! However, he slaps himself and focuses: the villains are getting riled up and want to storm the boat! He thus makes a point to chuck another concussion grenade into the middle distance (which produces quite an espectacular water spout), then hands and waves another pair of percussion grenades. The villains understand the threat and hold their ground.
As the stalemate continues, Sero comes up to him. Izuku (never letting his eyes stray from the crowd of villains) asks him if his tape is conductive of electricity. Sero says no, so Izuku tells him to wrap a loop around Kaminari's waist, and tell Kaminari to jump into the water and empty his battery. They follow his plan, and the three of them then spend the next five minutes fishing unconscious villains before they all drown to death. He delicately asks them not to touch the shark-man, though.

Say, how about if the entire class has some group grief counselling after the attack?

Oh, I know: have him give out communicators to all his friends. They'd be useful in the intended training exercise, and being able to coordinate despite being scattered would be a major advantage.

No cookie. One of the mayor plot points in that arc was that one of the villains had a power to interfere with electromagnetic communications. That's why 13 and Eraser couldn't call for reinforcements, and had to send Iida as a runner.

However: how about if their costumes all included some form of wearable camera, by school or government policy?

6004986 That sounds exactly like the kind of person you don't want getting One For All.

I saved a copy of the overhead map for when we needed to coordinate everyone.

Your idea is quite well thought out, and PTSD counseling would definitely be a good idea.

I was thinking short range stuff, like walkie-talkies, but those would probably be jammed too.

The camera could work if it had sound too. That way the school would be able to figure out battles between students after they'd occurred and distribute punishment accordingly. Midoriya would think of a way to turn this camera off, of course, even if he never saw a reason to.

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That sounds exactly like the kind of person you don't want getting One For All.

Indeed. Let a Darth Sidius have a go at his brains, and he'll be wearing an SS uniform in no time at all.

and PTSD counseling would definitely be a good idea.

Well, that be awesome (and very much needed), but I wasn't thinking about that one.
I don't know how to explain myself: the kind of psychological training that cops are supposed to get before being issued a lethal weapon. That one about the possibility of needing to kill, killing for the right reasons, and not being overcome with guilt after having shot down somebody. So, while the PTSD counselling would be delivered by professional counsellors, the other would be delivered more on a format of a circle of chairs, where a number of professional heroes and cops would sit among the kids and take turns talking about times they had to kill somebody, or had to leave somebody behind, or couldn't save everybody.

The camera could work if it had sound too. That way the school would be able to figure out battles between students after they'd occurred and distribute punishment accordingly. Midoriya would think of a way to turn this camera off, of course, even if he never saw a reason to.

After posting that I continued thinking and saw that thing about Cop-cams.
How about if the camera isn't technically required, but is considered part of a professional hero's standard equipment, and is considered suspicious if a hero consistently goes into battle without it? As such, the school makes a point to mark down students who either don't wear it or don't turn it on. Say that things evolved in that GoPro developed a cop-cam that could be comfortably worn on a tiara, hanging on a third-eye position, and could record 12 hours of A/V on a single charge? And that later, as hero activity normalised, it also became normal that heroes doing law enforcement delivered the recording rather than an actual statement.

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By the way, your image broke.

6007889 Ah, that kind of counseling. I'd need to look it up since i'm not familiar with it, but it would be appropriate.

That camera would give heroes incentive to act like heroes all the time, instead of just when they're getting the most attention. It's amazing what a little accountability will do to enforce good behavior.

6007920 Really? I just pulled it from the website you sent me.

Sorry I didn't reply right away, I've been busy with work. Really, I just need to get started on the first chapter at this point.

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Ah, that kind of counseling. I'd need to look it up since i'm not familiar with it, but it would be appropriate.

It might be something like group therapy, support group or something, but still interesting and needed.

That camera would give heroes incentive to act like heroes all the time, instead of just when they're getting the most attention. It's amazing what a little accountability will do to enforce good behavior.

Indeed.

Really, I just need to get started on the first chapter at this point.

Well, you know my email when you need editing services.

Sorry I didn't reply right away, I've been busy with work.

Hopefully, so will I, considering that yesterday I had an amazing job interview.

6015026 Nice. Good luck man.

I just realized that we haven't talked about Izuku's father beyond him being cool. What's his personality?

Here's a start: he's an electrical engineering professor looking for tenure, and is currently moving between colleges every few years hunting for a position. He doesn't want to constantly uproot his family though, so they get to stay in Japan until he locks down a permanent job. He loves teaching, science, and in particular teaching science, hence Izuku spends their visits doing stuff like making slime, launching model rockets, and building robots.

He hates writing by hand, so he reserves it for special occasions. He misses his family, and tries to visit for the holidays and over the summer, but is too thrifty to splurge on a trip if money is already tight, so he's missed a few in the past. He's half American, half Japanese, but was raised mostly American, resulting in the only really Japanese part of him being his name. He has U.S. citizenship, owns a rifle, knows how to use it safely, and has taught Izuku the basics of shooting during their only trip to the states.

He's perceptive. The reason his marriage has survived so many years of separation is because Hisashi is an expert at identifying problems and heading them off. If he wasn't quite as good at keeping his family together they would have split up years ago. His likes experimenting on his quirk, figuring out exactly how he's able to breathe fire without burning himself, where all the chemicals come from, etc. Progress is slow since he doesn't specialize in biology, but he doesn't let that stop him. The testing itself is fun for him.

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Here's a start: he's an electrical engineering professor looking for tenure, and is currently moving between colleges every few years hunting for a position.

Yeah, that makes an awful lot of sense. I was thinking about him being either into philosophy, psychology or social sciences, but being him totally unrelated to that will make him funnier, and will make his conversations with Izuku a lot less jargon filled. Thing is: how would he have met and married Inko, considering that we aren't making her any more worldly than her canon self?

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He's half American, half Japanese, but was raised mostly American, resulting in the only really Japanese part of him being his name. 

For our story's purposes, I think it would make more sense if he was an inverted case of Pony's dad: A mostly Japanese, binational guy whom a Japanese company has sent to the US in a mid-level position that would benefit from both his degree(s) and binational status. How about him being a translator of technical manuals for a hugely diversified Japanese company like Mitsubishi? Or him being a mid-level executive in a joint venture between two corporations in the two countries?
I'm saying this because of our agreed-upon backstory for the family: the father gets a career opportunity in the States, and they move there on a long-term, temporary way. A few years later, Inko grows tired of being surrounded by gaijin and returns to Japan with Izuku, while the father continues growing his career. As to Izuku, he went to kindergarten and perhaps some Elementary along with Kacchan, then attended several years in a Japanese international school in the States, then came back to Japan at least in time to take the last two years of middle high with Kacchan, and the rest is history.

Wouldn't Izuku be half-Yank, legally if not by blood?

He loves teaching, science, and in particular teaching science, hence Izuku spends their visits doing stuff like making slime, launching model rockets, and building robots.

...And through him, Izuku has copies of books like "Electronic Gadgets for the Evil Genius", "The Practical Pyromaniac", et al.

6020125 Maybe they grew up in the same neighborhood, childhood sweethearts and all that.

Let's combine the two. He's a technical adviser who specializes in helping install new systems and training people to use them. The U.S. needs his help far more often than Japan, so while he has gotten a few jobs that are local to Izuku he's had to spend most of his time abroad.

I think having him spend several years in the U.S. is too much, so maybe he was there for 2-5th grade, then went back to Japan for what we call middle school. Izuku might be a U.S. citizen, by paperwork if not birth, but I doubt that'll be important at any point unless they go international.

...And through him, Izuku has copies of books like "Electronic Gadgets for the Evil Genius", "The Practical Pyromaniac", et al.

And The New Way Things Work, a couple of big cross section pictures books, The Cartoon Guide to Physics, Genetics, Chemistry, etc.

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Maybe they grew up in the same neighborhood, childhood sweethearts and all that.

Whatever. As long as it doesn't come to bite our arses in the future.

I think having him spend several years in the U.S. is too much, so maybe he was there for 2-5th grade, then went back to Japan for what we call middle school.

How about grades 1-6? Arriving at age six, Izuku is barely young enough to have learned to speak English as a first language (without developing an accent), and the division between primary and secondary school would have been a good point for severance. Furthermore, given this data, Izuku could have been enrolled in normal school (rather some international school), then lost half a year upon returning to Japan while he took an intensive Japanese language course. (His folks might have spoken Japanese at home, but written Japanese continues to be an extremely complex language)

Izuku might be a U.S. citizen, by paperwork if not birth, but I doubt that'll be important at any point unless they go international.

Not impossible, but a bit unlikely.


And the Nacho doesn't have a new job... yet.
I'll keep trying.

6026493 Hey, I just graduated, so I'm job hunting too. We'll find something.

Right now the Dad's main trait is his total absence from the story. If we just keep it vague we should be able to slot in the canon explanation easily enough.

Going to a U.S. grade school sounds good, especially since our grade schools are usually the best of the bunch, with middle and high schools becoming progressively worse. Maybe Izuku writes all his notes in a home brewed mixture of English and Japanese, forcing any would be spies to know both languages if they wished to understand them? My character Alex over in one of my ongoing stories is going to use Chinese characters as a code too, though he hasn't had reason to yet.

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Right now the Dad's main trait is his total absence from the story. If we just keep it vague we should be able to slot in the canon explanation easily enough.

:eeyup:
And what we are designing is for him to be little more that a bouncing board for Izuku's thoughts. Barely a character at all.

Maybe Izuku writes all his notes in a home brewed mixture of English and Japanese, forcing any would be spies to know both languages if they wished to understand them?

Ha!
I once tried to do exactly that, writing a mulligan of Canadian and Mexican slang in a mixture between hiragana and katakana. Didn't get too far with it because (A) I came to consider it a bad custom, and (B) I live surrounded by bilingual people. As things went, I then tried to just write either English or Spanish in the Japanese alphabets, but I eventually gave up on that, too.
What I did develop much further was Babel: a non-verbal, exclusively-conceptual language which I developed while I worked as a hotel receptionist back in 2004. The written version looked like mathematical equations filled with drawings and ideograms. While I have forgotten the written version, I believe it did help me to organise my mind and think a little faster.

6027898 A bouncing board and a plot device.

Wow, you did? It would work better in Izuku's case, though, because he's trying to hide it from his classmates, who don't all speak English very well. Or maybe it's something he'll think up and try once he gets his hands on the book.

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Wow, you did? It would work better in Izuku's case, though, because he's trying to hide it from his classmates, who don't all speak English very well. Or maybe it's something he'll think up and try once he gets his hands on the book.

How about if, during that half-year he lost between primary and secondary school, on top of learning Japanese language and history, he took a course on secretarial shorthand?


Besides, it would also happen to make his notes doubly illegible: not only would they be in English, but also written in near-gibberish.
And he took it because some hero in the US told him (or his class) that it was a great thing to know, as he often had to take lots and lots of notes when interviewing witnesses.

6034379 Yeah, good luck translating that. Especially if he uses Japanese grammar rules. Unless that just turns it into Japanese shorthand.

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Well, Japanese grammar is just an inversion: whereas Latin sentence structure is subject-verb-compliment, Japanese is compliment-(subject)-verb. It would slow down comprehension, but it wouldn't really be an obstacle.
Furthermore, it would be rather hilarious if, everytime Izuku starts muttering, he does so in English.

6034409 Oh, so that's why everyone is creeped out when he does it!

Hmm, a story about an Earth pony who doesn't own Earth pony magic? (without diving headfirst into the mechanisms)

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