A serious talk · 9:28pm Jul 1st, 2021
There have been events here on fimfiction in the past few days that have worried me greatly. I will not say who and i will not say names because that is just not who I am. I don't like people going onto other accounts just to shame them or put them down because it's what I strive to get across to people that it's NOT ok.
Suicide and suicide prevention are pivotal factors that happen in our lives at least once to all of us. Whether it be someone you knew, someone you were close with, family, friends, etc. I personally experienced seeing 2 people I loved and cared for commit suicide in just my last two years of high school. And one of them sadly I was very close with.
Bullying is a huge problem and I don't mean to use to word bullying loosely here, but it is a big problem. Other people making fake accounts, or just straight up attacking people for no good reason whatsoever. Most of them don't even know they are doing it. Saying things like "i just don't understand, or just get over it".
Walk in our shoes, live our lives, speak to the people we see every day and maybe then your comment would have some merit to it... and thats a small maybe too.
Point is, Don't attack people who are saying they are having suicidal thoughts. If you just cant figure in your head to find sympothy for someone's emotional struggles then just say absolotly nothing at all. And for those of you who do have the sympothy but just don't know what to say, comment a suicide hotline. Offer your support and kindness. don't fight and argue with people in their comment sections about it either because it gets you nowhere. Have the strength to ignore those people and just report them.
Love the fact that you still thrive to spread awareness over serious topics like these!
While I agree that bullying is not right, and suicide is not the answer to anything:
Let us, at the same time, not be emotionally manipulated into unqualified absolution of all possible inciting actions on the part of the victim.
No, I'm not suggesting victim-blaming, as in, saying it's the victim's fault for being bullied. Bullying is always the fault of the bullies.
But in this particular case, the victim is at fault for some other underlying wrong-doings that they need to be accountable for. The author centering the last couple days of drama created that drama more or less by their own hand, by writing a story that unashamedly and unapologetically promoted pedophilia. They did it under the cover of claiming pedophilia is a valid identity under the LGBT umbrella, and this story was written to push this advocacy for acting on predatory attraction to minors under the banner of Pride Month, adding insult to perverse injury.
Clearly, this kind of person and these kinds of stories are intolerable in this community. It's utterly despicable that someone would come here, to a fan community based around a franchise whose target audience is children, and promote something so predatory and abusive.
While I don't agree with bullying as the means to do it, necessarily, I do think we have both a right and indeed a mandate to kick people like this out of our community. The best thing that can happen, for us and for this author, is for their account to be deleted and for them to seek the professional help they need, both for immediate suicide prevention and for longer-term treatment to prevent them from eventually doing something truly hurtful to a minor.
Fortunately, it looks like account deletion and seeking help are what's happening to this person at this point, so at least there's some silver lining here.
5546510 being a survivor of sadly a few suicide attempts myself and living with me tal illness that I have now at my older age learned to manage. Its important to me that others understand these things so we can better the health and me tal stability of our community and beyond.
As my boss said "I have a bleeding heart" which is true and gets me in trouble sometimes but its worth it to save someone or to help them though somthing awful
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I totally understand holding people accountable. but there is a better way to go about it than just straight up letting people say "the world would be a better place without them".
as somebody who has done some pretty awful things (not to the range of what you said) in the past, I can kinda sympathize with people who have done bad things (not to that degree though not saying at all I sympathize with pedophilia). When you hurt people it makes you feel bad but when people just start calling you out on it and saying awful things back to you it's defiantly not the best way to handle it.
that's something I honestly see IRL to the black lives matter movement and the opposing forces. (kinda using this as an example of what I mean just not comparing the two)
Both sides were choosing violence and hateful words or fatal tactics to get their way or make a point. which is never the answer it never is.
Personally, I've always been the type to let people know they hurt me and that I'm disappointed or sad and just leave it at that. and sometimes I have to cut people out because of the things they say. I've already cut off someone on this site for saying bad things about the LGBTQ+ community of which I am a part. and it sucked cuz I really wanted to help that person but I just couldn't after that statement.
the best thing for the situation would honestly be letting the person know what they did was wrong and just make it clear we are unhappy but not in a rude way.
Idk the whole situation from the situation I saw and if what you said was even it. all I saw was the hateful things some of the people were saying. it's so important to not let stuff like this get in the way of common sense and humanity. Mistakes happen and sometimes things just don't get worded right or they are reserved in a way that you didn't expect. It's how we respond as a community that really shows our true character.
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The character of our community would be shown in the best light if we just quietly kicked out the pedophiles and didn't make a fuss about it: no bullying, no harassment, no nastiness. Just a swift ban / account deletion, and a private note of "please get help and change yourself for the better before you try to come back."
That would be the ideal response.
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I agree.