Analysis: What I like about Starlight Glimmer · 5:36pm Aug 26th, 2017
You know what I like about Glimmer? Her first appearance. She was smart, charismatic, and good at suckering ponies into giving up what made them who they were so they could fit her shallow definitions of equal and good. She was a villain, a brilliant, twisted, incredibly despicable villain. She thought she was right, and she outlawed free thought to keep her ideological control on her ponies crushingly tight, and she didn't see what was wrong with that. And you could argue that maybe she is right. After all, if competition and cutie marks were banned, Rainbow Dash would never get nervous about a new race or Wonderbolts show, and the Cutie Mark Crusaders wouldn't have spent their formative years wishing their formative years would end. Those are extremely small positives you'd get with some extremely big downsides, and the time travel episode proved that all Starlight's ideology can ever accomplish is weakening Equestria enough for it to suffer from and potentially get destroyed by more powerful external problems like Sombra's Crystal Empire and Changelings, but the thought was there, and that's what makes a villain really good.
Unfortunately, while that Glimmer episode was being written, someone on the writing team fell in love with this character, and it showed in all the wrong ways.
Glimmer, in her second appearance (Not counting cameos. Which I loved. Bonus props for having her Shinra Tensei out of there and come back to get revenge, it's a neat idea despite the execution)...
Glimmer decides to stop Twilight Sparkle from ever meeting her friends, and she's willing to laser blast a foal to do this. Rather than a moral about how you can't fight fate, Glimmer successfully ruins Equestria again and again, never understanding that this Equestria she created is a worse one than the original. It'd be neat if she saw the damaged Equestrias she created and repeatedly insisted that if they "Just accepted Equality into their hearts, everything would be fine", but I guess it's easier for the writers to stop Glimmer from understanding that hurting Equestria hurts Equestria until it's spelled out for her and comes with a visual aid.
But let's not talk about that. Let's talk about something I've never seen anyone mention, Glimmer fan or Glimmer hater.
Glimmer is suddenly persuasive enough to convince two bullying schoolfoals and their victim and their victim's best friend to stop bullying, make nice, forgive each other, give up on the ideals of competition, and wander off to have fun together, "Outsmarting Twilight and forcing her to defend bullying".
She pulls this off in under ten seconds, offscreen, and it just works because it's her. She does something that should be impossible, and it just works, because it's her. She has an infinity symbol as her charisma stat on her character sheet, now, so she can do things that just shouldn't be possible. And Twilight can't defend against this... because someone behind the scenes lowered Twilight's IQ to make sure she didn't make a short speech about the importance of competition or think to say to Filly Rainbow Dash "I'm you from the future and the world goes to shit if you don't pull a Sonic Rainboom off right now".
Now, the next point, I've seen some Glimmer haters bring up, but I'm going to bring it up in as much detail as possible.
Glimmer is suddenly so magically powerful that with just simple shields and lasers, some lucky dodges, and the occasional other spell, she can battle a fully-bloodlusted Alicorn Princess Twilight Sparkle to a standstill. Multiple times in one day. While levitating herself using her own magical power miles above the earth without stop because she doesn't know the Cloudwalking spell. And stopping Rainbow Dash from pulling the Sonic Rainboom off, often blasting her, meaning she can even cast multiple spells at once now. This has some interesting effects on the show this scene takes place in.
1. Everything that made Twilight's power special or notable is now moot, because this mare is just as strong as her, maybe even stronger, without being an Alicorn and without needing special rainbow powers.
2. Friendship isn't magic any more. The pony that embodies friendship and is empowered by it is losing to a villain sue only someone that hasn't noticed what I've noticed can love. That's a mean thing to say, sure, but it has yet to be proven false by a single solitary Glimmer fan. Hopefully, if I put that term like that, it'll inspire some honest intellectual open debate on that point.
3. All the "I don't want to be special/Being special is a big responsibility" stuff with Twilight is now not just moot, but openly stupid. Why was she shy about showing her Unicorn power level off when it meant absolutely nothing, and this other random Unicorn could have kicked her ass?
4. A big part Twilight's backstory is that she was trained from birth in Canterlot to have an insane power level. That's part of who she is as a person, even though it doesn't get shown that much any more. Remember when she used to put Ursa Minors to sleep and ZA WARUDO whole groups of ponies? Ah, memories. Anyway, Starlight Glimmer has no reason for having a power level close to Twilight, let alone a power level that surpasses her. And it's not like magic has been stated to be a light-side dark-side thing where embodiments of friendship are powerful because that's magic's light side but embodiments of evil and doom and death use its dark side. You could claim Sombra and Discord, one unicorn king and one chaos god we know nothing about, were implying that all along, just like I could claim Celestia is Twilight's real mother all along.
5. I'm alright with characters corrupted and empowered by an evil amulet overpowering Twilight, I'm alright with mad gods of chaos and demons powered by stolen Equestrian magic overpowering Twilight, and I'm alright with some random asshole getting one lucky shot in on Twilight, reading her jump and hitting her with an instant win attack... but that's what Starlight Glimmer is: Some random asshole. And this random asshole made Twilight look like a rank amateur without even breaking a sweat, multiple times in one day, sh*tting all over Twilight's life and timeline in the process. There's no prophecy here. There's no symbolism here. She's a random asshole and someone's favorite character. And she's just suddenly so OP, it hurts the show and its setting and everything Twilight stands for as a character. She isn't outsmarting Twilight, she isn't outsmarting the readers or any characters in the universe, she's just suddenly so OP it hurts, and there is no justification for that. This is like if Avatar Aang got his ass kicked by some random Fire Nation soldier that could also bend all four elements and time on top of that. It makes the avatar power feel cheap, it COMPLETELY ruins the powerscaling and power creep, and it introduces plot holes like "If he was this strong all along, why did he bother with what he tried to accomplish before this GMPC Poochie was forced to reveal his infinity-symbol stats?".
6. Glimmer is no longer what she was in the opener. She's no longer a smug manipulative asshole goading villagers into killing themselves and their offspring slowly but surely. She's no longer a well-intentioned threat to Equestria's stability and ability to function. She's now just yet another evil asshole throwing lasers around and being an asshole because she's an asshole. She's Frieza. Her power level is so high, she could probably kill filly Twilight, making the time travel aspect pointless. She could easily hit Twilight with a magic anti-Cutie Mark beam while in the shower or in the loo. She could travel back in time, use her uninterrupted 10 seconds before Twilight shows up to obliterate the earth, cast a breathe-in-space spell on herself, and watch Twilight implode/explode. She chooses to destroy the hero's hometown and homeworld to be a dick, because that's all she is now, a dick. A dick with infinite stats. A dick that can do whatever she wants because this is her show.
Even putting aside what Glimmer is now and what the writers have been doing with her, all the spotlight time she's gotten, all the shilling she's gotten, all the times characters lost IQ points and previous character development so Glimmy could save the day, and all the fake-screentime bad OCs got so they could create problems for Glimmer to solve... It's clear her character was derailed from "Intelligent, charismatic, manipulative, and evil but narrow-minded communist asshole that genuinely thought what she was doing was right" to "Amazingly perfect hyper-charismatic super-asshole that'll shit on Equestria and kill millions and f*ck everything up just to piss the hero off". She's gone from a great MLP villain to a bad HIE/DBZ villain.
In one episode, she went from someone cooler than Tirek to someone that made me miss Broly.
Did it surprise anyone here when she was eventually handed unearned forgiveness, allowed onto the "Side of good", and allowed to frequently indulge in her only character traits(Evil/formerly-evil wizard, doesn't respect free will or free thought, social skill levels depend on the plot, likes kites) ad nauseum without consequences? Did it surprise anyone when this "Perfect" character was turned into the show's new main character and given shallow connections to other OCs, like becoming Maud's new friend and becoming friends with Thorax because plot and becoming friends with Trixie because every shilled hero needs a shadow, removing what depth and likability Trixie could have potentially had as her own mare?
I've seen many people praise these episodes for what they TRIED to do, like "Wow, an episode where the villain learned she was wrong instead of needing it magicked into her!", and "Wow, an episode where the villain is turned good!". People want to like them more than they actually do. People like the ideas in these episodes and the promise of this character far more than they actually like these episodes and this character.
Glimmer is flawed, in the sense that she's a terrible person. A horrible, terrible, self-righteous asshole that needs to learn "Abusing your magic is bad" multiple times a month because she has no respect for individuality and no interest in changing who she is as a person. But the writers expect us to forgive her for this, even though she hasn't earned forgiveness for the cult town she ran, let alone the times she successfully destroyed Equestria and killed millions, or the time she brainwashed the Mane Six. Twilight has flaws, Rainbow Dash has flaws, Fluttershy has flaws, but when they act like assholes, they notice and work on these flaws. Glimmer just gets handed forgiveness again and again, and "You should forgive people like this" is NOT a moral the show should be teaching to kids. You shouldn't forgive bad people, not if they've hurt you and are going to keep hurting you without a second thought.
Earning... Let's talk about earning. Sunset Shimmer was a crappy villain in a bad movie, but the second movie redeemed her, and the concept of Equestria Girls itself, even if it did shoot itself in the foot with its handling of AU!Twilight later on. She tried hard to earn forgiveness but couldn't find a way to redeem herself, even though she worked for it and tried to earn it. She put up with bullying, she ended up getting a chance to be the hero, and in the end when she smirked down at the defeated Fishllar Women, it felt triumphant. F*ck yeah, the equine version of Gary Motherfucking Oak is back, and she's here to kick fishpony ass. She earned her redemption.
Glimmer... didn't. She had it handed to her. And while they could have retconned it a little so it was always a shaky thing BECAUSE she didn't earn it, the writers seem to think their "Better Sunset" simply deserves redemption for existing. When I see smug Shimmer, I want to fist-bump her, and when I see smug Glimmer, I want my fists to bump her off. Bad attempt at a pun aside... Glimmer sometimes mentions that some ponies haven't forgiven her, but we never see a Fluttershy-style or Sunset-style scene where ponies are a dick to her. The writers don't want to write that. They don't want a Korra Alone-type episode where even the most unbearable of badly written characters can be made sympathetic through the magic of suffering. They want her to write her as this loveable tragically flawed character everyone should love and forgive for being an asshole that doesn't want to change, and they're going to keep shilling her at the show's expense because of this. The writers want you to love this character more than they want to tell a good story or respect the source material they were given, and they think if they shove Glimmer deep enough down your throat, you'll love her as much as the Glimbots. While many ponies have crazy fans, Glimmer's fanbase often seem to have the highest concentration of crazed Glimbots. I personally think it's because they identify with her, being assholes that don't want to change, and they love seeing themselves have fun in a fantasy world where nopony holds their assholery against them. I'm sure that's not why ALL Glimmer fans like her, that's just my theory as to why so many extreme assholes are attracted to her on such a massive level that criticism of this character triggers them and makes them need revenge, even if that revenge is something petty like demanding I get banned from leddit.
You don't love Starlight Glimmer, the way she is now, and you can't. Her fans love the idea of her far more than they actually love her, and while some are aware of this, most aren't. They'll praise her for what she is, saying "Wow, we finally got that seventh mane six member!" and "Wow, another main character besides the mane six I was really getting sick of!" and "Wow, another Unicorn as magical as Twilight! Now she isn't as special any more!", they never mention the execution of these ideas. As for who she is... What is she, besides a second-rate bootleg Sunset Shimmer? Her only character traits are built for a good villain, and they make for an absolutely terrible hero. Oh, and there's kites. She likes kites, I guess. This character trait feels tacked on, like when you see some single word on an OC's Character Sheet. "Likes: Having fun with her friends, good ponies, and kites. Dislikes: Being bored, mean ponies, and death". You get what I mean, right? Just yelling "You have shit opinions for liking/not liking Skub!" isn't going to get us anywhere. Same goes for "You hate Skub so you can't talk about Skub" and "You need to accept Skub exists and stop criticizing it". We need proper, mature, open discussion about this, with no fallacies or damage control or backpedalling or lying or goalpost-moving or any other Glimbot behavior.
Bonus: Let's talk about connections and character interaction, something that's supposed to be the best part about introducing a new OC. After all, while you've seen most types of character before, it's when they interact with others that they truly shine. The bonds of friendship between each member of the Mane Six and the group as a whole feel real and earned and meaningful because they are all fleshed-out characters with their own backstories, motivations, feelings, thoughts, desires, and so on. You can see ponies like Fluttershy and Rarity being friends, sure, but you can see Rarity and Applejack being friends, you can see Rainbow Dash and Twilight being friends. They all have things in common and things that contrast with one another, and they all have believable reasons for being friends beyond "We met each other and the plot wants us to be together".
Glimmer is just given characters to form connections with, as if there's a quota that needs to be filled or a group of "I want Maud and Glimmer to get an episode together!" shouters that need to be satisfied. It's not something natural, like a friendship and mutual respect forming between Rainbow Dash and Twilight because their personalities are similar yet different, with them getting closer after one teaches the other the joy of reading. These Glimmer connections to other random characters, just for the sake of having them, and they're always based on what they are, on the shallowest level possible, rather than who they are as people. It's…
Glimmer bonds with Trixie because both "Used to be evil", even though they were evil on different scales and to compare them is laughable because it's like comparing Kim Jong Un to that dick that cut me off on an intersection.
Glimmer bonds with Discord because both are new characters, and both used to be evil. Even though one's a god of chaos trapped in stone for a thousand years and one is just naturally a jerk.
Glimmer bonds with Maud because (Prepare yourself for some roundabout logic) "Both are unusual. Also, Maud likes rocks not because they're interesting, but because they treat you equally no matter how odd you act, and Glimmer is still hot for equality".
Glimmer bonds with Thorax because [Data not found. Thorax? Wasn't that the name of some plot device last season?].
Trixie and Discord antagonize each other because that Boomerang Scene of a finale needed some conflict, even if the show hates that now, and people loved when Katara kept the group together in the desert episodes so Glimmer gets to keep the bratty loser and chaos god in line through sheer force of protagonist power. Even though "Doesn't want to be a leader" is her character flaw in that finale, a flaw that goes away when forgotten about by the writers.
Glimmer bonds with Spike because both have a connection to Twilight, even though these are very different connections.
You can tell the writers want your love for these characters to rub onto the OCs in the above section, but it doesn't really work on anyone that can tell that's what's going on.
At the end of the day, Glimmer doesn't have the kind of depth necessary to be a protagonist. She's the kind of character that fades into the background and doesn't show up unless the monster of the week is so strong, she won't instantly solve the plot. I'd bring up Kishibe Rohan, but the writer used him well, only having him fight enemies that can get around his reality-overwriting bullshit power in some way.(Fighting ghosts because he can't read anything on ghosts after their death, fighting an evil parasite bound to his back, fighting and losing to an energy-drainer that removed his ability to move and write, having a gambling match with Josuke while being so rich a few thousand lost yen wouldn't matter and wanting to solve the mystery of how Josuke was cheating on his own merits(And knowing Josuke can just ignore writing, making him immune to getting Hebuns Doa'd), and then finally getting blindsided by the world's most bullshit time bomb).
Glimmer doesn't have the strength of personality to carry an episode or series of episodes by herself, which is why she constantly has to rely on other characters and cliche stock plots that'd work just as well if she wasn't there, and was replaced by Mr and Mrs Cake instead. I swear, if you replaced Glimmer and Trixie with Mr and Mrs Cake in that season finale (You know what I'm talking about), it would improve the episode. I guess you could call relying on others "Leadership" or "Delegation", but she doesn't delegate roles to others, her writers delegate the "Make Glimmer look good" role to other OCs. When your character is too strong for the situations he/she is in, adding other weaker characters to make the strong character seem less absurd is absurd and redundant, and nerfing your god mode sue so some other OC can look cool is lame.
The writers can't do with Glimmer what they did with Rohan, because they want Glimmer as the new protagonist, hoping to sell toys and win over hasdrones and appeal to them and pander to them and Glimbots constantly. It'll probably make her an alicorn, even though she doesn't deserve it and hasn't earned it. They can't do what Araki did when he made Rohan the hero of his own spinoff for a while, because Hasbro know nobody would watch or buy it. Modern MLP is scraping by on brand name recognition alone. That, and all the bronies that still watch it because they hope it'll get good again.
The writers think Glimmer's "Former villain" status makes her a deep and compelling character automatically, but it doesn't work that way. She's still a villain, one that chuckles about her evil days with her villain friend. For this scenario to happen, the world of MLP would have to be so "Forgiveness is better than punishment"-ish it would probably let a serial killer walk free because he said he was sorry after the seventh kill. (And to think, I once thought a Death Note: MLP Edition fanfic was absurd for having the same premise and using it to necessitate Twilight using the Death Note).
The writers can't properly redeem Glimmer because:
1. They think she's already perfect as she is.
2. If she was redeemed properly, and became a nicer pony, she wouldn't have an excuse to screw up and create plots and conflict out of nowhere. Writers would have to try harder when thinking of episode ideas. They wouldn't be able to rely as much on "Glimmer's bad again and needs to learn abusing magic is wrong again while teaching morals to others" when they're out of their daily 'Grab a random plot from the hat of paper fragments' chances.
3. She doesn't have depth. She just objectively doesn't. Her traits are "Hates dissent, likes good things, likes kites, is OP at magic, used to be evil". You can't write much with a character like this when you physically need every episode with her in it to make her look as good as possible. You can't do what Spongebob did and squeeze multiple episodes out of his love for Jellyfishing and how often this has a negative effect on himself and others and how often this was a positive thing or just plain fun thing. They were already pushing her "Likes equality" trait with the "She befriends Maud because… um… Maud likes rocks because… um… rocks are equal and they treat you equally no matter how weird you are! Yeah!" thing. And unless they start making regular episodes about her flying kites with ponies, and this causing her to have run-ins with Flying Zapfish, they can't do a whole lot with this character when their goal is not to tell a compelling and interesting story about a flawed individual, but to get a quick payday and in the process try to please the mad director, mad storyboarder, and mad supervisor who all want as much Glimmer as possible in nu-MLP so they can say "Our characters and our vision made this show what it is" while smirking at the fans Faust and the others gave them.
I appreciate your honesty. As someone whose a fan of Glimmer (in the sense that I don't really have a negative opinion of her even though she isn't exactly making a top ten list), I will say that that my main reason for liking her is due to the fact that most of her episodes that featured her had lesson and morals, etc. that resonated with me on a personal level (no second prances, E.L.T.S.D, All Bottled Up). I definitely wished they did more with her character, and I've even have some headcanons as to what they could have and could still do with her. I can understand where the dislike comes from, even though I don't entirely agree with all of the issues. Above all, I don't think she's a terrible person, but she does have a long way to go. As for her development, as Twilight said, "I'm not mad, but I am disappointed." If you want to discuss this further, we can but it's up to you.
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I'm disappointed in the writers. Glimmer showed so much promise in her first appearance, and she squandered all of it in the second. Then, with each appearance, she finds a way to make me lose a little bit more hope I didn't even know I had.
I wish Glimmer was a good character, but the writers can't use this character in an interesting way, not without giving her traits beyond "Likes kites and used to be evil" and "Hates not getting things her way". Or letting her play the villain, get called on it, LEARN FROM HER MISTAKES, and grow as a pony.
Sure, I wanted to punch Zuko when he called Iroh crazy and said if he wasn't in jail, he'd be sleeping in a gutter. And when he came back begging for forgiveness and Iroh hugged him, I teared up. THAT is how you make a character act douchey and still make that character getting forgiven feel heartwarming instead of immersion breaking.
Good comparison with Zuko. Though I personally believe that Glimmer still has a chance if put in the right hands, but even I'll admit lately she's not much more than a plot device. Still doesn't keep me from liking her and some of her episodes (again for personal reasons) but there's been so many missed opportunities.
Honestly I was expecting her to be reformed by the end of the season premeire. While she was an interesting antagonist, it's kinda been a stable of mlp to reform their most of their bad guys sooner or later and honestly if glimmer were to try something on the same level as like Chrysalis, well I doubt no matter how skilled in magic she is she couldn't win a fight with 4 alicorn princesses.
As for my personal answered for why I think she's reformed: I think she's still in the process of being truly reformed. That said I do believe she can still earn her place.
As for why I like her: While not necessarily sympathize, I can empathize understand and relate to many of her struggles to simplify.
Anyway if your interested I could share some of my ideas on how she could have or could still be written better.
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What bothers me is that they aren't reforming her. Ever. This is it. She said she was sorry, the heroes forgave her, and she's part of the Mane Six now. The writers consider her a good guy now, no redemption or repentance needed. They don't have the self-awareness to do "Former villain" right, not by a long shot, which is why she becomes infinitely more disgusting with each episode. It's like a bratty character being a brat in their episodes, or a stupid character being stupid in their episodes. This is the "Used to be evil" character, so she slips back into villainy in her episodes. When she isn't being supported by the writers and the other OCs and the plot to give her a stupid "Just be there so the plot can resolve itself" plot on a silver platter.
I wanted to like her, and I wanted to like this show, but I can't any more.
I hope season 8 is better.
Well like I said before sorry you feel that way. Anyway I'm not gonna try to defend her or get you to change your mind about her or the show. If you don't enjoy either anymore then that's that. I just came here as a fan of Starlight Glimmer to show respect and to show that her fans can be civil and are not all retards. That said I would say one thing: after watching the movie while I liked it to me it was above average at best. I wouldn't expect the old writers to immediately begin producing masterpieces.
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At this point, "Only above average" and "Basically the season 1 opener but again" are massive compliments for that movie. I loved it. Sure, it wasn't "Clever and subversive" like Rick and Morty, but MLPFIM was never about subverting stuff, it was about being a pony show and being a damn good one.
Uh actually it kinda was...the show subverting things I mean...I mean I assumed that's why soo many people fell in love with the show and especially the characters in it.
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The word "Subverted" is used wrong so much these days...
A "Princess gets saved by hero from the dragon-guarded tower" story is averted when the hero dies on the way there, or kills the dragon then kidnaps her himself or kills her.
A "Princess gets saved by hero from the dragon-guarded tower" story is subverted when the hero gets kidnapped too and the princess has to save them and get them both out.
A "Princess gets saved by hero from the dragon-guarded tower" story where a Princess gets saved by a hero from the dragon-guarded tower, but it's awesome and well-written... is just awesome and well-written.
A pony show that looks pretty but is actually a world of eldritch horrors and suffering where somepony dies onscreen bloodily every week is an averted "Happy pony show" show.
A pony show that looks pretty but is actually a world of suffering where evil ponies that think they're the best and nicest race for having names like "General Niceness" and "Gas Chamber Operator Baked Bun" is an averted "Happy pony show" show. I guess you could call it a subversion instead, since the happy ponies are evil.
A pony show about friendship that looks pretty but is actually a world of eldritch horrors and suffering and yet ponies remain hopeful and happy and good ponies... is a well-written show about friendship.
There's depth to the six stereotypical girl characters, but they're still fundamentally those stereotypes and the world is still optimistic in tone. It's a stereotypical girly cartoon. Just a rare actually-good one.
If you wanna get technical I suppose so but at the same time you could also say the show subverted people's expectations by being more than just a girlish pony show and by the characters being more than just one note cliches and stereotypes. If they were just what you said then I have to ask was MLP really as good even back then as we believed it to be or was that all just hype.
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It subverted expectations, but not the tropes themselves. Friendship lasers still purify the night demons and chaos demons and purify those that can be saved while turning to stone those that can't.
It's proof that literally anything, even a stupid little show about cartoon ponies and friendship, can be good if you know what you're doing.
Tell me, what're the three purposes of Twilight Sparkle from a narrative standpoint?
If I were to guess they would be:
1) Mirror the audience's reactions to the to newer parts of the world and characters.
2) Give the audience an understanding of the world.
3) Act as the focal point of the story, able to get the main 5 and other characters to interact more often.
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Her primary roles are:
1. Represent the audience, going in. She facepalms and headdesks and facehoofs and collapses and groans at the idiocy and wacky personalities around her, and tries to keep things on-topic and her friends on-task, no matter how hard that might be sometimes. If ponies don't take her seriously when she says "The end is coming!" and would rather party mindlessly until disaster strikes and they cower or run away from it like sheep, that adds to this. Kids can laugh at the stuffy Twilight getting mad over silliness, or laugh at the silly Rarity/Pinkie irritating the right Twilight, and parents can laugh when Twilight finds the silly cartoon character silliness just as annoying as them.
2. Represent ponykind and Canterlot at the same time. If she saw a farm that grow their turnips faster by running around them clockwise, she'd say "Ah yes, the normal method of doing this" if it was normal for this world and "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard" if it wasn't. If it worked, it'd work and surprise her, and if it was bull, she'd prove it. She'll try a magic spell to defeat Discord's magic, and she'll be surprised when it fails because it normally never fails.
3. The main focal point of the show. The show, at its core, is about these six friends being friends in this world. Sure, it's harder to tell a story about these characters when everyone that matters is at the top of their game and nobody seems to have anywhere to go, but you can still do it. Just throw a new monster into the mix, or give them a Sonic Boom-style recurring villain to fight.
Well glad you went into a little more detail anyway I don't really think I can add more to this so with that I bid you good day.
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Interesting points Silver ^^ tho I feel when the two fought is was more like Twilight trying not to kill her by holding a bit back just like Celestial has. Besides who can starlight didn't took a break every time Twilight went in the portal. No Unicorn should be able to do all that without tiring unless that is the adrenaline talking. Also she was given characters to befriend with? What makes them random? In fact wasn't the same Twilight? I don't get it because it feels natural.
https://youtu.be/YPQD3ly3Bdw
I also found this video. Sorry if all these messages are bothering you. If you hate Starlight after all this then that's okay, but please respect people who like her. Please not Glimbots are crazy. Some are nice. Tho I wish you luck ones that are jerks.
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Glimbots is my word for the crazy ones, I know not all glimmer fans are crazy.
>Also she was given characters to befriend with? What makes them random? In fact wasn't the same Twilight? I don't get it because it feels natural.
Twilight was sent to Ponyville to befriend five ponies Celestia assigned to do stuff during the summer sun celebration, or something. Her friendships happened naturally, and they bonded while doing stuff.
Glimmer just has characters the fans like attached to her, because they want the love for those characters to rub off on her. Pinkie gets the shaft, because Maud needs to be Glimmer's closest and most understanding friend. It's a shallow marketing ploy, and I wish we got good episodes with this character instead.
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??? It still feels natural. In fact Starlight is more natural since for Twilight it was by an order, tho it doesn't mean the bond that bloom wasn't real. It was real and what way can you see as natural for Starlight to make friends?
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It doesn't feel natural because it's done repeatedly in such quick succession, and it's written poorly every time. It isn't enough that she just befriends Maud, she has to become Maud's BEST friend, she has to understand her better than Pinkie does instantly. It isn't enough that she just befriends Trixie for the sake of a "Don't expect former bad people to be bad influences on each other" moral, they have to stay best friend and all of Trixie's potential as a character needs to be thrown away so she can play cheerleader and foil 24/7.
Speaking of Maud, she comes back, just for Glimmer. She goes to Ponyville, just for the benefit of Glimmer. And the two of them get to teach FUCKING PINKIE, MAUD'S OWN SISTER, a moral about sisterhood and friendship because flanderization.
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Well Pinkie was focusing so much in trying to get Maud to stay that is possible she might have forgotten besides Starlight is her only other friend.
With Trixie it was natural, they meet in spa and talked in which they grow a bond. That sounds completely natural. Would it be better if it was a new character?
Also I have heard you are getting bullied for hating the show. I wish you luck in that they stop as long as you stop harassing people who do like the show. You may think the show gotten worse with Lauren gone but that is your opinion. Mine opinion is that too me it got better even after she left.
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>With Trixie it was natural, they meet in spa and talked in which they grow a bond. That sounds completely natural. Would it be better if it was a new character?
As for that one, the writers didn't write it naturally. At no point did Trixie or anypony else acknowledge the different levels of evil these two idiots were on. At no point did anypony admit maybe the ponies had a point when it comes to not trusting each other. (Even though it'd've been funny if they'd done a bit where they both think the other is eviller than them at the start of their relationship)
They just instantly become buddy-buddy, even though Trixie was punished more than Glimmer, when she did worse things, which is unfair. Just... take a moment to look at what was written there.
"Man, innocent ponies are so exhausting. Why can't they just forgive me for what I did already?" Asks the first.
"Tell me about it," Says the second. "Do you know what they hate me for?"
"Tell me," Says the first.
"So the first time I came here, I lied about how good I was at magic, the usual travelling stage-magician stuff. So two local idiots unleashed a giant monster on town. I tried to fight it anyway, I lost, I had my house destroyed, I became a laughing stock worldwide, and I became homeless for years. I spent a while at a rock farm, then when I could afford it, I went to a shop and bought an evil amulet that made me strong enough to get my revenge!. And when I came back, I crowned myself king of this stupid town, beat up its favourite hero, and tried to torture her best friend. The evil amulet turned me a little loopy, but I still tried to torture her friend after it was taken away, so maybe it was me all along, who knows? But I got tricked, I got my butt kicked, and I was 'Forgiven'. By the authorities, anyway. But the ponies in this town still don't fully trust me."
"That's crazy! They don't trust me either. I mean, all I did was create a cult in the mountains and brainwash ponies and force them to follow an anti-talent anti-skill anti-individual groupthinking cult's dogma while hypocritically making myself the mayor of that 'Equal' town. Then I stole the cutie marks of an Alicorn and Equestria's strongest heroes, dooming the country, and I tried to brainwash them, too. Then one exposed me as a fraud. When the heroes stopped me and debunked my ideology and freed all my townsfolk from their physical and mental enslavement, I ran away, stalked Twilight for months until I learned about the day she got her Cutie Mark, and went back in time to prevent that, fully aware that she was a morally upstanding citizen and important hero after watching her for so long. I fought Alicorn Princess Twilight Sparkle to a standstill multiple times a day, always finding time to laser-blast or crystalize Rainbow Dash as a filly, and I repeatedly created worse universe after worse universe. War, famine, death, global Changeling domination, I unleashed all these and more upon the ponies of Equestria, just because I was buttmad over losing my town, one fight, and an argument over the validity of an ideology I'd pretended to live under for over a decade. Only when Twilight showed me one last ruined timeline, a barren hellish world probably mercy-killed by Celestia herself, did I realize changing the timeline and preventing the hero from becoming a hero out of petty hate for Twilight would make Equestria a worse place. Also, I keep mind-controlling ponies I'm supposed to be friends with, I don't 'Get' morality or rights like normal ponies do, I think I know better than anyone else and I think this gives me the right to violate others, and I never stop to think about the consequences of what I want to do because I'm blinded by my own ego and the writer won't let anypony on-screen get mad at me ever."
"Wow, we have so much in common!" The second friend lied, hoping this genuine fucking sociopath wouldn't attack her lying ass. "I mean, you succeeded in destroying Equestria a bunch of times because Twilight stopped you from continuing to do evil things, I tried to get revenge on a town that ruined my life... We're like twins!"
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Do they have too? They still have that in common. Also Starlight was the one that started the change during the time travel, but that's it. She didn't played anyrole afterwards. Just the prevention of the Rainboom. Also she didn't even know the casualties. It doesn't seem fair to punish her for all those tragedies she didn't commit. It wasn't Starlight who went to war with Sombra on her side, that was Sombra. Starlight didn't help Chrysalis take over Equestria. All she wanted was revenge on the mane six and only them.