7/6 Editing · 1:33am Jul 7th, 2014
I'm willing and able to help any of you who are trying to properly write Luna's "Old English". Early Modern English (EME) is like a third language to me, (despue's del Espannol, que yo tuve por cerca de 9 annos desde primer grado hasta el 10. No soy fluido.). I've had my fill of Shakespeare from 8th to 10th grade (strangely, we didn't do any last year.) If you haven't figured it out, I'm a rising senior.
Anyways, I've seen countless butcherings of English through Luna's "speech" and would like to point out some of the major errors that I see in many of the works I read through. A lot of these things I have to say would involve a bunch of unnecessary grammatical terms that no one really should like that are intended to confuse anyone who doesn't have a PhD in linguistics to understand. Given that, the things I'm going to summarize will end up in the form of tables and analogies rather than listing out all the 4+ syllable words that describe them.
'who' is to 'he' as 'whom' is to 'him'.
'who' is to 'whom' as 'he' is to 'him'.
If he did it, then who did it?
If he did it to him, then who did it to whom?
If it concerns him, then he is whom it may concern.
Pro-form
'Hither' means 'to here'. 'Hence' means 'from here'. Hence forth, you should understand the phrase, 'come hither'.
'Thither' means 'to there'. 'Thence' means 'from there'. 'Hither & thither' literally means 'to here and to there'.
'Yonder' means 'to over there' It's a form that is further away from 'there'. We use it in the South sometimes.
'Whither' means 'to where'.
For more info, check this out.
Here is the biggest problem: most people here don't know how to use their 'thee's and 'thou's properly. I would just rage at you and show you to this link, but TL;DR. Here are the essentials:
Conjugation:
I am, I shall, I do, I will, I have, I run.
Thou art, thou shalt, thou dost, thou wilt, thou hast, thou runnest. (When I speak in this form out loud, I pronounce it "thoo" to make it rhyme with "you" so it's easier for my brain to understand.)
He is, he shall, he doth, he will, he hath, he runneth.
We are, we shall, he do, he will, we have, we run.
You are, you shall, you do, you will, you have, you run
MOAR LINKS!
Still with me?
Okay check this out:
Nominative:::::Oblique::::::::::::Genitive:::::::::::::::Possessive (Don't ask what these terms mean, you'll understand in a second)
I Me My/Mine Mine
Thou Thee Thy/Thine Thine
He Him His His
We Us Our Ours
Ye/You You Your Yours
They Them Their Theirs
See the pattern?
Now take a look at this table and see the first two sets of terms under the long, stupid word that starts with the G. There's a reason that there are two terms in each nonexistent box there.
IF the word that comes after the Genitive form starts with a vowel, it turns into the form that ends in 'ne.' for example:
If it is a box, and it is thine (possessive), then it is thy (genitive) box.
If it is a box, and it is mine (possessive), then it is my (genitive) box.
If it is an egg, and is it thine, then it is thine egg.
If it is anegg, and it is mine, then it is mine egg.
See the pattern? No? I didn't think so. This is why I don't plan on being an English teacher when I get out of college.
This is really important: There are only certain times when you use the "thou" form, and back then, to use it the wrong way would be considered rude.
The speaker only uses the "thou" form when speaking to only one person at a time, and that one person must be of lower social class than the speaker. If the addressed person is of higher class than the speaker, or if there is more than one person, the speaker must refer to him/her/them in the plural "you/y'all" form. This corresponds with Princess Luna referring to herself in the royal plural. If you were to address Luna as "thou," she would break your nose and have you executed for insolence if Celestia didn't stop her. (That's right, Darth Vader was wrong to ask "What is thy bidding?"
and before you argue, the reason "thou" was used in the King James Bible was because there was no other singular form in the English Language to distinguish the Greek & Hebrew singular & Plural.