The uselessness of an "AI generated" content ban · 6:18am May 21st, 2023
The thread on this turned into a shit storm and I get too many emails already to get pinged on that, so I stopped posting over there.
Here's my final comment on this, for anyone who cares: It doesn't matter. It's a ban without use.
Current era ChatGPT content is recognizeable because the product is essentially in beta. It's very good, but not so good that a person can't eventually figure out it was created by said ChatGPT. That will not be true in the near future. Google, Microsoft and other companies are pouring billions of dollars into these technologies. I would argue that by the end of the decade, AI (or "machine learning" for the pedants in the audience) will be able to produce text that can not be distinguished between an American 9th-grade writing level.
As a teacher I have a damn good idea of the sophistication of a 9th-grade writing level. A large number of stories on Fimfiction would not pass that test. So "keep the AI out" policies will either have to ban a huge number of "low quality" writers, or admit they can't tell the difference, and allow them.
This problem is already showing up at the college level, where professors are furiously and somewhat pointlessly trying to tell the difference between actual student work and ChatGPT work. This can have serious problems when it hits innocent bystanders, as noted here.
This question has come up a lot in education circles: How do we deal with ChatGPT-like technologies? The answer is fairly obvious. You do not depend on large text creations as sole parts of grades for students. Multi-modal assessment is how education is supposed to be done these days. Students are assessed through presentations, drawings, group projects, short videos, in-class debates, lab activities, and yes, writing things. The days of the 25%-grade final paper should be long gone. For writing purposes, many educators now have students write a set amount each day or week, and grade them periodically in order to document progress over time. This circumvents the problems of using ChatGPT or outside sources.
This doesn't help us on a fan-fiction writing website. It never will. Are you going to force authors to show their entire writing process? Good luck with that. Adopt or die.
Is that what got to you, too? Well, the management of the site can be understood. They just do not want to get bogged down in a stream of low-quality generated text. Thus several problems are solved simultaneously, outright rubbish is cut off and people learn to use this tool. And it's not just about the spirituality or the spirituality of the story, everyone decides for himself. If you were smart enough to edit a well-generated text, you wrote it yourself. But if you got caught, it's your own fault, you didn't put enough work into it. In general, as the saying goes. "Not a thief until caught."
I think this rule will not work long, it's just a temporary patch. We are in a phase of change, society does not yet know how to react. And it's understandable, you don't know what to do hide, maybe it will pass by...it won't.
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I find the main argument (“it’s not *your* work”) to be rather hypocritical. The whole site is based around the idea of writing fiction based on the universe, settings, and characters of other writers - the TV/movie writers. Fanfiction is already in a legally grey area. If Hasbro suddenly got angry and wanted Fimfiction to go away, the law would probably support them.
See also this current news bit: https://kotaku.com/lord-of-the-rings-power-fanfic-amazon-tolkien-bezos-1850363244
Alternatively, why not just force AI-generated content to be flagged as such, or be listed as the actual author?
No, this is just reaction to change, and that has always been the source of most human conflict.
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He will most likely lose the trial. He has no rights to the Tolkien universe...
Hypocrisy? Yes, you're right about that too. It was the same situation with electronic music.
Well in fact they took a time out and see how things develop, the rules can always be adjusted. It's a little radical for me, though. It looks very much like it was played for an audience.
But it would have been interesting to watch this creation. I think it would be especially popular with fans of Sweetie Bot and other ponybots.
I wonder, against this background, when the witch hunt will begin?
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I can't imagine how they'll get a handwritten text as proof of uniqueness... In Hindi, Farsi or Russian, for example.
It doesn't get any more unique than that.