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[Aurora Sparks]

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I hate that smug idiotic bastard of a human

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well we're all entitled to feel one way or another about something or someone, same as others are entitled to put you to the question as to why, I've never been much a person to fire a metaphorical first shot, but once someone else has done the deed, I am more than pleased to be the one who fires the metaphorical last.

So with that in mind, why the harsh words? What makes you feel that way?

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He's just such a rude and racist person! Why he got elected President is beyond me.
He literally called the Corona virus the Chinese virus. On live television!!

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Alright, looks like we have a basis, one I will be trying to pick apart bit by bit

PS. Sometimes I can get a wee bit witty and or snappy, know that if I do chances are it's targeted at other politicians/other people in general and not you, if it feels I was talking about you or hitting too close to home, do tell me so I can collect myself. Always aim to be civil especially with a friend.

Rude: *shakes hand slightly side to side* I mean, kinda. Not gonna 100% try and go against this, he is boorish at times, quite frankly, this is part of the reason why people like him. They didn't want another politician who did the norm, who kowtowed to Political Correctness, they liked Trump because he was someone who just told other people off and exactly where they could shove it. I kinda like that about him quite some times, but can also understand if that's not the cup of tea for others.

Racist: Ah one of the buzzwords that the media and other politicians shriek nonstop. What exactly is racist??

The Chinese Virus: Because it came from, you know, China? That is where it originated no matter how the CCP would want to deflect on this fact. What about Ebola? Named after the Ebola River near Zaire? Isn't that racist by this form of logic then? All the DNC politicians, doctors, media people, and much much more should be branded racists for calling it the "Ebola Virus"

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Okay, no offence. But why does it sound like you're defending him?

I just wanna point one thing out, Donald Trump, back way before he was president, there was a case called the Central Park Five Jogger Case, 5 innocent men were sentenced to prison for a crime they didn't commit, and Donald Trump said on live news that they should bring back the death sentence. And I want you to keep in mind that these were 15-16 year old boys.

Also, he's not a bit racist, he is racist. And he's probably the reason America is about to collapse. He nearly started another World War!!

I'm not yelling, but simply making my point on why Trump is a bad person.

And I'm not sure why you find him running a country like a maniac, 'interesting' but I don't judge..

But still, he's an idiot in my opinion and I will never support anything he does. (Unless it's changing himself for the better)

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Because I for one like him as president. I find nearly all of these "racist" claims just part of the media shrieking because people can't handle the fact he won.
Also, because I will defend nearly anyone on claims I suspect have little to no ground, something I cannot stand about the Media and DNC is how they so liberally use the word Racist and Nazi. Those words use to mean something, but I and many others have heard it so many times it gives the "Boy who cried Wolf" effect. Now, when I heard that someone is a Nazi I roll my eyes and say "Yeah yeah whatever" and if they actually are racists or Nazi-like scum, no one is going to care because they lied about it and "Cried Wolf" one too many times that no one comes, just like in the story. It's a slippery slope I do not like having.

You may want to pick words more carefully, as from what you just said Trump said we should have the Death Penalty, not about this case in particular, and I support the death penalty because the college research I wound up having to do on it proved that it is indeed effective in preventing crime.
Please provide recording of it, unaltered recordings, or some form of archived information on this because I certainly don't trust the crap the media puts, using deceptive clips of Trump saying "Fine people" making it look like he was defending white supremacists when that wasn't at all what he was doing the moment one looks at the full footage, the same they did with the Covington Catholic kids.

Also, he's not a bit racist, he is racist. And he's probably the reason America is about to collapse. He nearly started another World War!!

You have said that, but just because you say it and the media shrieks it doesn't make it true. Show something that is racist he has done.
No, no he is not. I find that a sign of Trump Derangement Syndrome, he did not nearly start another world war, let's hear the instance in which you're talking of.

And I'm not sure why you find him running a country like a maniac, 'interesting' but I don't judge..

But still, he's an idiot in my opinion and I will never support anything he does. (Unless it's changing himself for the better)

What exactly is like a maniac? You say these sorts of things, I am not yelling either, I simply wish to see why you feel that way, and perhaps to show you why you're wrong in the event you are.

Again, what is idiotic? I put this to the question in attempts to learn/teach/break echo chambers/make sure I do not live in one myself,

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Again, I just want to ask, why are you 'supporting' him in some means? And the media isn't claiming Trump is racist, it's because it's true! Reasons? Just check his Twitter page, the one thing he cares most about. More than his own country. He literally tried to sue Twitter because it blocked a post of his.
Take this tweet I found for example:

and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm yelling but for some reason you saying this just makes me angry!

Because I for one like him as president. I find nearly all of these "racist" claims just part of the media shrieking because people can't handle the fact he won.

What I can't get my head around is why your a Trump supporter? Like just why!? People are not mad he won, their mad because of what he does with the power. I'm taking a guess that your from America yourself, right? If you live in that country that is turning into hell itself then why can't you see that this so-called leader of yours doesn't know how to run a country properly?

I don't want to start an argument with you because your my friend, but please explain what you even see in him as a leader? I've made my point very clear about why I don't like him, and I don't need to do any more explaining.

And I don't mind the death penalty, but trying to use it on under aged innocent boys is just plain wrong!
And don't believe me about it, here's proof from a web page about Trump's racist history:

In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

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Again, I just want to ask, why are you 'supporting' him in some means? And the media isn't claiming Trump is racist, it's because it's true! Reasons? Just check his Twitter page, the one thing he cares most about. More than his own country. He literally tried to sue Twitter because it blocked a post of his.
Take this tweet I found for example:

Actually glad you both brought this up and chose those words, we'll get to the latter in a moment, but this first; Twitter deserves to be sued and put through a court case. Trump had tweeted an OPINION, things that all are allowed to do, and nothing in what he said was could really be twisted into being perceived as an attempt at fact, yet Jack Dorsey felt it was his place to FACT CHECK an Opinion, and then link to the OPINIONS of CNN and other outlets. That is not his job, that is not what Twitter is supposed to do, and they hid his tweet because it was not factual, an OPINION mind you. These social media giants have been on censorious power trips for far too long, shadow banning people for not kowtowing to their ideology and being asked by other politicians to censor conservatives. They deserved to be sued and defanged,

and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....

I think I remember this tweet in particular because it was brought up by a man a watch on Youtube. I am going to digress here momentarily, and ask you if you'd be so kind as to check out Tim Pool. I rather like Tim and think he speaks well, he's a moderate leftist and I certainly don't agree with him on everything, he doesn't even like Trump but he gives him fair treatment, calling him out when he does something he doesn't approve of, and commending Trump when he does things he likes. He also has no problem calling out hypocrisy in the DNC and other places.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe02lGcO-ahAURWuxAJnjdA

With that out of the way, let's move on to addressing this tweet. I do want to note, that one thing I cannot stand in the slightest is people who bash the United States and make us seem so bad while pretending we have things worse than other places in the world. I got all I ever wanted from that from my Lib-Tard teacher once, (I want to note, even further, this man was the incarnation of the liberal white teacher that you see in things like the Simpsons, he was so obnoxious and easy to hate I found camaraderie with a Muslim in my class who hated his horseshit and shilling just as much as I did) This is one thing I like about Trump, to people who just bash the U.S, he just says what all those like me are thinking "Shut up, no one wants to see or hear you."
With that semi rant out of the way, I can say I understand why this tweet sounds racist, I get it, and I also think, that was the point, and an ingenious move. Now this next part may sound a wee bit crazy/conspiratorial, but I ask that you listen and give me a chance to explain. I do not believe Trump was saying this because he was racist, I think he said this to SOUND racist. This Tweet was targeted at "The Squad" if you don't know who they are, they are a group of 4 DNC women "AOC, Illhan Omar, Reshita Talib (one more I honestly don't remember) anyhow, these women were, to put it kindly, controversial figures. They were not popular except with the fringe whack jobs of the left, their approval ratings in their districts was abysmal, the more the nation heard of them, the more the DNC looked bad. I don't much like Nancy Pelosi, I find her moronic, but she was smart enough to realize the longer they were in the spotlight on the national stage, the worse her party looked. She tried her best to hide them, to tuck them away in a corner, make their voices quiet. It's a political move that has been done many a time before, politicians did it to Theodore Roosevelt by "promoting" him to Vice President, a roll in which there is really no power compared to the president and no one would hear him. (that backfired horribly on them because when the president died, Teddy became the most powerful and vocal man in the United States) another fun instance of this was when a Pope, promoted a Vatican official as Grand Master of the Knights of Malta, moving him from the church to a small tiny island where he would no be able to speak his voice. Fun history facts aside, (sorry I like talking about history, kinda my thing) Pelosi was doing well, she had almost gotten "The Squad" to be forgotten and irrelevant to further discussion, then Trump goes and pulls the string. He tweets this tweet with enough hints of racism that the DNC have to talk about it. Unable to resist calling Trump racist, they put "The Squad" front and center, they are the talk of the DNC once more, and people see more and more of them and it only hurts the DNC. Trump did this not because he was racist, but because he knew the Democrats would fall into his trap, all he had to do was throw them a bone, give them a little cheese to stick their necks out and then the trap snaps shut.
It's cutthroat and diabolical, it's not a good tweet or a good look for him in any real measure, but it was a small sacrifice, he would look a little bit worse in order to make his opponents look a lot worse

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm yelling but for some reason you saying this just makes me angry!

What I can't get my head around is why your a Trump supporter? Like just why!? People are not mad he won, their mad because of what he does with the power. I'm taking a guess that your from America yourself, right? If you live in that country that is turning into hell itself then why can't you see that this so-called leader of yours doesn't know how to run a country properly?

Again, glad you chose these words.
First to your question of why. A multitude of reasons. I like his stances on quite a few things. First let's start with his economic stances. He spoke vocally against the rotten one sided relationship we had with China. China was getting so much for little in return. Moving our manufacturing away from the nation to outsource it to China was a mistake, a big mistake. Not only did it destroy jobs and hurt our economy to benefit the corporate titans, it had a serious vulnerability it left us; in that China could cut us off at any time. Should we go to war for whatever reason, we would be at a major manufacturing disadvantage, not even going to war, they could cut us off should they choose, and they kind of did. During this very pandemic, our masks were being made in China, and China stopped the shipments, keeping the masks for themselves and leaving us in the wind. Now I will say it as I see it, I honestly, DO NOT BLAME CHINA, (I blame them 100% for the virus getting to be a problem in the first place but not for wanting the masks for themselves) they were caring for themselves first, it's what any real leader of a nation would do, care for their own people first, the people I blame are the politicians and corporate bastards that let this happen in the first place.
I like Trump's stance on America First, above all else we should be caring for our own people, and worry about the rest of the world later. Let me try and put this in some simpler terms and an analogy, let's say we were all hungry in this scenario. We all had to work hard to put food on the table. I had to put in the effort to keep my family feed, and then some people come knocking at my door saying they are hungry, let's make this a bit more different, and even say it is you who is in need, a friend who I would want to help out. I would tell these people or you, that my family needs this food, once our bellies are full we will give you what is left to help you in this time. We must prioritize ourselves. First us and our families, then our neighbors and community, then our cities and state, then the rest of the nation and my countrymen, and from there we help the rest of the world and the foreigners, only once we all have full bellies, warm clothing, and are free from want. Some places have it worse than us, by I put my family and my country before all.
I like that Trump has brought back many many jobs (a lot of those jobs are gone now, but we have a pandemic, that kind of thing happens, and Trump has asked we reopen the economy while the Democrats have demanded it stay closed.) Obama had said so cockily that "some jobs you just can't bring back" To which Trump did an equivalent of that meme "Hold my beer" and by destroying the regulations Obama put in place jobs began to come back at an incredible rate. ( There is video of man who worked in the Rustbelt crying in joy, thanking Trump for bringing back his job so he could make a livelihood) Black unemployment under Trump reached a HISTORIC LOW, Black workers got more under him than Obama, sounds like something a racist would hate to hear and even less do. If someone was really racist they would not be proud of record low Black unemployment, but Trump was very happy about this. you know who wasn't? Democrats. All the Republicans clapped when he announced this in one of his inaugural speeches, they clapped and cheered as it was a victory for The Nation, and The American People! The Democrats? They sat on their asses like disgusting bastards. One of the most amazing things I saw, the Black Democrats, they sat there, and one, maybe two, clapped halfheartedly. He KNEW this was something he should be happy about as a Black Man, and as an American, but he did not want to step out of line with the DNC's Cultist Groupthink. Now doesn't that sound racist?? Not being happy for Black Unemployment? Now I have a question for you in here. You said before

I will never support anything he does

well then my friend, I am calling you out here, do you not support Trump lowering Black Unemployment?

Border Security. I agree with Bernie Sanders in 2016 that Open Borders was a Koch Brothers' conspiracy. If you do not know what that means, the basic idea of it is, that corporate and industrial titans want uncontrolled immigration of people from Mexico because they can pay them pennies to the dollar what they would an American citizen, they would make tons and tons of money many fold what they already are, working Americans would lose their jobs and become poor beggars, the immigrants would never rise above their status levels, and the wealth gap between the uber rich and the workers would grow and grow and grow. Trump had much the same views, that we need borders, we need border security to stop illegal immigration as they would take jobs away from our own citizens and only help the rich. And this has proven true, deporting illegal immigrants got back orange picking jobs for citizens who got good pay for it. And remember, keyword is, ILLEGAL immigrants. They didn't go through the LEGAL process of obtaining entrance, that is cheating both Americans, and legitimate immigrants who wanted to come to this nation the RIGHT way. So many Democrats have their "Sanctuary Cities" where they protect illegal immigrants from deportation. That is just disgusting, even more so was what some in California were doing, giving benefits, protection, masks, and other essentials to the Illegals, people who should not have been here to begin with are being treated better than our own citizens; that is BETRAYAL of the American People. The moment we start ti INCENTIVIZE CRIME, over obeying the law, is when are paving the way for societal collapse, and it's the Democrats who do that, they are bailing out these rioters so they can riot more. I know Joe Biden was one of them.

While we're on the subject of Joe Biden, look at him, look at who the Democrats are offering as an alternative to Trump. This senile, lecherous old man who is on VIDEO touching women inappropriately, who has had the DNC and media cover for him. This man who forgets where he is, rambles incoherently and damn near falls asleep, who had to sit down instead of stand and talk like normal candidates. This man who said to Black People "if you don't vote for me, you ain't Black" yeah, if Trump is racist, Biden is INCREDIBLY RACIST.
There are at least two other instances I wish to bring up on the DNC'S scummy failures.
Cheating Sanders. Twice Bernie was cheated from being the nominee of the DNC. In 2016 Hilary was given information on the questions that would be asked in advance so she would have time to prepare an answer, this time around they pulled every string to stop Sanders.
Another one, Michael Bloomberg. Bloomberg was a latecomer, he had not reached the requirements of funding and number of people who funded in order to qualify to be the nominee, but the DNC wanted his money, so they bent the rules, no, no, they threw out the rules to get him a spot. The Democrats abaondoned the Democratic Process for money. If that isn't the most disgusting corruption I don't know what is. Even Michael Moore called this EVIL out. When these are the people who stand against Trump, he looks like a saint, an angelic figure.

Now for some more social issues, things that more impact our society and less our economy. Political Correctness. I hate PC for many reasons, it's to be expected to be a bad when the word Political Correctness came from the USSR meaning being a good little citizen and kowtowing to the beliefs of the bolsheviks and never questioning the government. Political correctness is just an excuse to silence and censor people they don't like. This nation values the freedom of speech, our very first amendment, yet Lib-tards and Democrats would take that away under the guise of trying to be defending people, bullcrap. These asshats found Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer offense; RUDOLF. The Red-Nose. Reindeer. Let that sink in for just a moment. Yeah no, these people if given an inch will try for a mile, they can be given nothing, their greedy hands must be slapped away at every attempt they make. I am sick of people trying to say everything is racist, sexist, every kind of ist and phobic there is under the sun. Jerry Seinfeld refuses to ever perform for colleges because the special little snowflakes shriek at everything like the entitled brats they are. Trump can boorish, Trump can be rude, Trump can be offensive, and I LIKE THAT, his election was a big fat middle finger to political correctness.
I want to specifically talk about this because I was a Democrat for most of my life, I had quite liberal values, and in truth, I still do, I don't feel I left the DNC, I feel the DNC left me.
Way back when, the GOP was filled with the evangelical purists. The kinds who thought they had the authority to dictate what was right for you to see, to hear, to play, to do in general. Seeing them, my reaction was "shut up old man, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, I'll do what I want." Now it has flipped. The Republicans don't do that anymore, there are some yes, but they are a minority. The establishment Republicans left and voted against Trump because he shook the system, he was CHANGE they didn't want. Now it's the Democrats who say that something is sexist, that shows should be cancelled for being offensive, that video games are bad because of some stupid trope or because a feminist wined about it, and do them I say "Shut up you dumb bastard or dumb broad, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, I'll do what I want." I was always liberal in the sense people should be able to do what they want within the law, now, it's leftists that try and stop you from doing that, not republicans, the pendulum has swung, and Donald Trump better preserves this liberal value than any Democrat does.
Trump has never asked for the silencing of opinions he disagrees with, unlike Adam Schiff did when he called for Amazon to not sell a book that went against the DNC's opinion about the Coronavirus.

le are not mad he won, their mad because of what he does with the power. I'm taking a guess that your from America yourself, right? If you live in that country that is turning into hell itself then why can't you see that this so-called leader of yours doesn't know how to run a country properly?

This along with the part I didn't get in the quote is why I am really saying all of this now. I took a real long time to respond, 100% my fault, and I was flipping a coin as to whether or not it was worth responding so late, but I figured this was a good reason. From what you said, you have no idea why someone would support Trump, that is an issue. The media along with the bastard comedians of of the left would feed to you utter bullshit about supporters of the president being a bunch of racists an evil people, and it partially goes to show in how you don't understand why someone would support the president, I can hardly blame you because they don't paint us in a fair light in any way shape or form. Polls have shown Conservatives think Liberals are misguided and foolish, while Liberals think Conservatives are immoral and cruel, if nothing to else is taken away, then see why I support the president, see that a Trump supporter is not some stereotype racist.
No, no they complain because he won. Just look at all the whining people did when he won. I can show you many many videos of these people from randos on the streets, to celebrities, to even politicians. The hilarious shrieking and breakdowns people had when he got elected, all the "demonstrations" that took place before he was even in office, before he even did anything. All the people who got attacked for wearing MAGA hats, those black teenagers who held an autistic white boy hostage and tortured him for more than a day.
None of these current problems are Trump's fault. This is the fault of these damn rioters, of the Chinese, of the Antifa bastards who put bricks ahead of time so they can vandalize, of the DNC who shills for these rioters and pays for their bail money. This is not Trump's fault, if anything, I want him to bring in the military and put these damn chaotic rioters in their place, these bastards who loot and rob, who stole from a Black Firefighter who had a dream of opening a sports bar, who killed a retired Black Policeman so they could rob a store; yeah, fuck these people.
Here's some more food for thought, know who Richard Spencer is? If not, he's the leader of the White Supremacists in America. On CNN, he stated how he disliked Trump because Trump has done nothing to help his (and I use this word loosely) "cause" Nothing in Trump's administration has been racist policy that helped "White Power" and Spencer despite being a wretch of a human, is smart enough to realize Trump isn't helping White Supremacy, his polices have been about American People, not White People, and actions speak louder than words.

first off, other people still think they are guilty, like Eric Reynolds, the lead detective for the case. OH, and Eric Reynolds, IS BLACK.
You gonna say Eric Reynolds is a RACISTS? Gonna say this black detective is Racist towards them?? If not, Then why is Trump? Just because his skin is WHITE?? Only a Black Person can think a Black or Brown people are guilty?? Why that sounds positively...what's the word I'm looking for? Oh yeah! RACIST!
As for this last bit about the CP5,I'll say this, first thing, there were riots as reported, other people were attacked, for Trump to say that they needed to bring back the Death Penalty is not at all bad. There were many others, people I don't know, but it was beyond a scope of 5 people, at least one group had about 30 people. 30 people who were attacking others, one man in particular who was beaten very badly. yeah when you attack someone and beat them to a bloody pulp, you deserve to die, Trump is right about that.

Trump did not specifically call for the youths charged in the jogger attack to be executed. But he was clear that people like them should face severe punishment for such crimes.

Such a laughable piece, "oh but we know because we just do" yeah, bullshit, there were so many others that night that committed crimes of assault, I would have said the exact same thing, I would want police bolstered to stop this crap, and the people who did it to be put in the ground.
As for the CP5, they were Guilty. Maybe not of the jogger, but they were guilty of assaulting John Loughlin, a teacher and former marine. A policeman saw them in part of the group beating this man, they arrested them BEFORE, they even found the jogger, they were taken in for a different crime altogether, yeah, they deserved to be punished, they were guilty.

Here, watch this

I've made my point very clear about why I don't like him, and I don't need to do any more explaining.

I disagree, I think I clearly addressed all points, but do let me know if I did not, or you don't believe me on some of these things, more than happy to back myself up.

Tl;DR
One things I can't refute completely are his attitude, boorish nature, and a lot of tweeting; I like those but understand if you don't
His tweet that was targeting The Squad was more than likely a political move than a racist tweet.
Those are my reasons for supporting him
Even if those things proved Trump racist the Democrats have done worse, some in the past, some in the present
At most you can say Trump is Wrong about the CP5, at most. Trump's opinion is shared by a Black man, so you believing Trump somehow thinks this way because of racism is reaching and speculation, if not racism in and of itself.

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I really thought the length of that was too long. But I read it anyway. But first thing I wanna comment on is this:

I like about Trump, to people who just bash the U.S, he just says what all those like me are thinking "Shut up, no one wants to see or hear you."

Now, didn't you say a few moments ago that everyone has the right to have an opinion? Well, some people's opinion is that America isn't the best place to be, I don't have this opinion though, even though sometimes I feel like it. I don't think all Americans are bad. I have lots of friends who are American and they are really nice to be around.

The whole 'America is the worst' thing is just an opinion. Not something to say 'no one wants to hear or see you'. I think that response is just childish. If someone doesn't like or your country, let it be. Fighting back is just gonna make them hate you more and won't fix anything.

Next part:

So you're trying to tell me, that that tweet was not actually racism? Okay, I just...I'm laughing because this just sounds like your trying to make Trump look good by trying to make up some sh** that is most probably not true. I'm guessing 'The Squad' does exist but that really seemed more like a stretch. I'm sorry for my harsh language, this is just what I'm thinking. I feel like you're trying to pull wool over my eyes or something.

well then my friend, I am calling you out here, do you not support Trump lowering Black Unemployment?

Fine! I guess that was a good thing he did. But you're not changing my mind on him. He's done a lot of bad things as well and as much as he did a good thing for his country, he still has a long way to go before I will ever like anything he does.

This next part actually gave me a headache. I just....why.
I saw this thing about Rudolf and shit. What was that all about?
Anyway, so you're telling me that you like how Trump is rude, arrogant and an asshole?

I honestly just don't know what to say now. I always swore to myself that if I ever came in contact with a Trump supporter, I wouldn't try and argue with them because it would be like talking to a brick wall. But here I am. I'm not saying your a brick wall. But this conversation is just frustrating. As much as you are my friend and I may not be able to change this fact that you see an 'angelic figure'
(pfft lol) this has been the most frustrating and by far annoying conversation I've ever been in.

The media along with the bastard comedians of of the left would feed to you utter bullshit

See now you just sound like a little kid who shits on everyone who doesn't support someone who you support. There is no need to call them bastards because they haven't done anything wrong. Take Trevor for example. He just gets info from the news and media and turns it into a comedic joke.

The part I didn't like about this comment is that it sounds like your just hating on everyone who doesn't like Trump. You've bitched about the media, comedians, other politicians. You really don't know what goes on in there when the cameras aren't rolling. I'm just saying that you shouldn't just call everyone a bastard just because they call out Trumps BS.

You gonna say Eric Reynolds is a RACIST??

Listen here. I never just call people racist for no reason. I only found evidence online and on the news, (which is live footage taken at that time) and then it's just there, showing that they are racist.

you deserve to die, Trump is right about that.

That son of a bitch police officer what's-his-name killed a fucking person! He ain't dead. That rioter who beat someone up just should have been thrown in jail.
But Trump wasn't just talking about the rioters, he was talking about the boys. He wanted them to be killed. Innocent boys murdered because of a crime they didn't commit. And today, after DNA evidence was given and proved the boys innocent. Trump still thought they were guilty!

I guess I cannot change your mind, so I won't try to. But I do ask that you respect I do not like him as a person or a president.
And I still think the tweet was racist.

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Now, didn't you say a few moments ago that everyone has the right to have an opinion? Well, some people's opinion is that America isn't the best place to be, I don't have this opinion though, even though sometimes I feel like it. I don't think all Americans are bad. I have lots of friends who are American and they are really nice to be around.

Of course they have the right to say it, of course they do, same as I have the right to tell them to eat a you know what, that's the beauty of freedom of speech, you can say whatever you want, an no one can stop you, just as someone can tell you how dumb and stupid you are for saying it.
What you said doesn't go against what I said exactly, that's their opinion, and mine is to tell them to sod off. If they wanted an actual discussion, I would be more than happy to talk with them, I know my nation while I feel it great, can always be worked on. In truth, I hate the concept of perfection. If something is truly perfect, that's it, the bottom line becomes there's no room for ability, for imagination, for improvement. It's a dead end and a condition of hopelessness, any nation and human should always try to be better than anything that ever came before them but not perfect, that's the kind of creatures we humans are, we take toy in pushing our boundaries, in trying to reach for something we have to admit, may in fact be unreachable. But I digress and am falling into the philosophical deep end here so I better swim back.
These people in particular I am speaking of are just those who as I said, bash America. Here's what I look for, you point out a problem in a respectful way, you say that it should be addressed, and present a way you think it could be done better. That says to me you want a conversation, that you're willing to sit and present solutions and perhaps work things out.
If instead you just drag my nation, expect me to drag you, as you are not bringing anything useful to the table, doing the verbal equivalent of egging my house, so I'll do the verbal equivalent of serving your butt to you on a silver platter.
I think that sounds fair.
To really boot it, these in specific are politicians; U.S politicians. You get elected to represent a part of this nation, and you hold contempt for the nation? That does not fly with me, no sir, no ma'am.
Fighting back won't solve anything? Well sitting there and taking it sure doesn't, at least standing your ground feels good.

I don't blame you for not believe it. I fully admit, it sure sounds mind boggling I know. 100%, if I were in your shoes I would have a hard time believing it. Allow me to offer a wee bit of proof. Please do listen to Tim Pool here, I forgot he has 2 channels, Tim Cast and Tim Pool, I would appreciate if you did subscribe, he provides some good insight and opinions, and always wants people to do their own research in case he made a mistake.

Fine! I guess that was a good thing he did. But you're not changing my mind on him. He's done a lot of bad things as well and as much as he did a good thing for his country, he still has a long way to go before I will ever like anything he does.

Please do tell me what you view he did bad for my country. Honest if these is something I do not know I want to take that into consideration, and if it is something I do know and find good I would want to say why I think it was a good thing. That's also a very headstrong stance, if someone does any good EVER, it should be recognized.
I give credit to whoever does something good, even if I do not like them.
I give credit to Benito Mussolini for coming within a razors edge of achieving the complete and utter destruction of the Italian Mafia. He was a dictator but when you do good you do good.
I give credit to the NSDAP for their very strong and in a sick sense progressive animal rights laws and environmentalism. (Yeah, the irony is so thick when you're treating animals better than people and starting a genocide) They were horrible horrible people, but when they do good, I do not somehow try and say that their good deeds were bad, like people trying to make the claim that because Nazis were pro-environmental that somehow that is an argument against it.
With this logic, I hear Trump likes this thing called "water" and constantly uses this airborne element called "oxygen" you gonna hold your breath.
Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian who loved dogs. Does this mean you will take a 100% red meat diet and kick puppies?

This next part actually gave me a headache. I just....why.
I saw this thing about Rudolf and shit. What was that all about?

Progressive people within this nation viewed Rudolf The Red Nosed Reindeer as problematic, here's one video on it by a man you hopefully will know for his Admirable Animations and Animated Atrocities. TheMysteriousMr.Enter!
I can also find other videos, Tim did one, but I don't get to use Mr.Enter much so I'm taking the opportunity.

Anyway, so you're telling me that you like how Trump is rude, arrogant and an asshole?

I like him because he tells it as it as is and doesn't hold back. He sees people and he'll tell it straight, no holding back, even being a bit rude. Again, I 100% can understand why people don't like it, even other Trump Supporters like my mother don't like it or his tweeting, I just see it differently. People voted for him because they didn't want just another politician, they wanted something new, they wanted someone who would be a bit potty mouth, because he's saying what we're all thinking. I want to yell so much at these fragile babies that try and tell me what I can and can't say, and Trump, he says it to all of them, to all these politicians, electing him, was giving us a voice, and our message was that we're sick of all of this PC garbage.
Again though, I 100% understand that others don't like this about him, and understand why. I had thought I made that clear previously.

See now you just sound like a little kid who shits on everyone who doesn't support someone who you support. There is no need to call them bastards because they haven't done anything wrong. Take Trevor for example. He just gets info from the news and media and turns it into a comedic joke.

Have you seen Colbert? Samantha Bee, Saturday Night Live? They never shut up about it. Even when their rating polls say the majority of people wanted Saturday Night Live to stop talking about Trump and move onto something else. They don't get it from the news, they just spew garbage. Samantha Bee did the lowest blow ever and called Trump's daughter a Feckless Cunt, and suggest she seduce he father sexually to get him to change his stance on immigration. Yeah, she DESERVES to be called horrible things, Bee is the worst comedian in the world. Colbert? This man is a disgrace, biased though and through. Use to be John Stewart, bless his heart, he held nothing back. He may have liked the Democrats more, but when they did bad, he called it out, same with Republicans.

The part I didn't like about this comment is that it sounds like your just hating on everyone who doesn't like Trump. You've bitched about the media, comedians, other politicians. You really don't know what goes on in there when the cameras aren't rolling. I'm just saying that you shouldn't just call everyone a bastard just because they call out Trumps BS.

Same as before, am I suppose to expect somehow behind cameras they aren't bias and point out the bad the DNC did then when on air they are biased shills?
You can dislike Trump, bring up good reasons against him, speak of why you don't think he's good. You know who does that? Tim Pool, a man I respect. You can hate Trump so long as you aren't biased, the Media IS BIASED.
Here's some hypocrisy. CNN fully supports the protests, but condemns a Trump rally because they aren't social distancing....and the protesters are? No, no they are not

Listen here. I never just call people racist for no reason. I only found evidence online and on the news, (which is live footage taken at that time) and then it's just there, showing that they are racist.

And I have to say that is likely not accurate. Those news places did not portray racism, at least not clearly, and have you not heard of the Covington Catholic Incident? What showed racism in this case?

That son of a bitch police officer what's-his-name killed a fucking person! He ain't dead. That rioter who beat someone up just should have been thrown in jail

Hey no qualms with me there, light him up. Everyone agreed he was a murderer, Pro-Police, Anti-Police, The Police, all found that a disgusting act.
That level of beating is attempted murder, or ought to be. They should be executed.

But Trump wasn't just talking about the rioters, he was talking about the boys. He wanted them to be killed. Innocent boys murdered because of a crime they didn't commit. And today, after DNA evidence was given and proved the boys innocent. Trump still thought they were guilty!

Where did it say that? I looked over what you showed me, (not the NYT, they want money and a subscription, screw that, they can go eat a cock) But the other one did not show he was clearly talking about the boys for one,
second, did you see that video? It was there to show that it wasn't a clear cut case and they very well are guilty. Read what I had said and watch the video if you would be so kind, if you have a problem with it please do tell me why you find it invalid.

I guess I cannot change your mind, so I won't try to. But I do ask that you respect I do not like him as a person or a president.
And I still think the tweet was racist.

I do respect it, I just wished to show you why I find him to be a good president. At the very least to see my stance as you had said before you could not understand.
Also, I do ask that once again you watch the videos I have put in there and if you'd be so kind, do subscribe to Tim Pool.

OH! And before I forget!!!
Hope you've been well this past week :3
Beyond it all discussions like this always must be civil, I do them to either learn or teach, if lucky both, but I never wish to lose anything, especially good standing with a friend.

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Reading your comment. I have some, like very little respect for this man. He seems to try and care for his country, but some of his ideas just aren't always the brightest. I do kinda agree that Trump is entertaining in some ways. Like when he suggested that people drink bleach to cure corona and that became a meme. It was kind a funny.

I do think he needs to improve as a person a lot more. Things he's done in the past, still cannot be forgiven, but can be forgotten.

About the whole comedian thing. I have no idea who Samantha Bee is but she sounds like a horrible person. But there is one comedian who is okay when it comes to talking about Trump and that's Trevor Noah. Trevor doesn't hate Trump, he just makes fun of him, and that's okay. He doesn't make up any thing and doesn't talk about him to much.

And he actually has a really hilarious Trump voice he uses to mock him. He's really good with accents, you should check him out. He runs The Daily Show. (I also happen to have a decent Trump voice I use to make jokes with my mom about Trump. Learnt from the best.)

One little nit-pick about this convo. If anyone comes to this video and see all of this hell, there gonna wonder what the hell happened. So I might delete this conversation, if you don't mind.

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Where did it say that? I looked over what you showed me, (not the NYT, they want money and a subscription, screw that, they can go eat a cock) But the other one did not show he was clearly talking about the boys for one,
second, did you see that video? It was there to show that it wasn't a clear cut case and they very well are guilty. Read what I had said and watch the video if you would be so kind, if you have a problem with it please do tell me why you find it invalid.

It may not have shown in the link I gave you, but if you could be so kind to watch this link>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67pQmshOOvA AND THIS ONE>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paf8MPhSG08 You'll see why I'm mad about it. It shows right there that he suggested them to be killed.

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Reading your comment. I have some, like very little respect for this man. He seems to try and care for his country, but some of his ideas just aren't always the brightest. I do kinda agree that Trump is entertaining in some ways. Like when he suggested that people drink bleach to cure corona and that became a meme. It was kind a funny.

I don't think he said to drink bleach. I do remember it was something that had a very similar name to an ingredient in drain cleaner, (or it may have been a name close to a drain cleaner) and some people ingested that, when it was something else.
You may also be talking about the sanitizer, to which, Trump was asking that as a question if it was possible to put it in the body to kill the disease, not suggesting it be done. While that may sound like a silly question, there actually are some ways of putting other things within the body to clean it. I don't remember how exactly it works, but to my surprise that was a thing.

(I am going to send that video in the blog you made, and this one here)

I do think he needs to improve as a person a lot more. Things he's done in the past, still cannot be forgiven, but can be forgotten.

Fair, I suppose

About the whole comedian thing. I have no idea who Samantha Bee is but she sounds like a horrible person. But there is one comedian who is okay when it comes to talking about Trump and that's Trevor Noah. Trevor doesn't hate Trump, he just makes fun of him, and that's okay. He doesn't make up any thing and doesn't talk about him to much.

She is. She is downright horrible, and the fact she still has her job when all these other people got fired and cancelled for less makes me groan.
Also! Kathy Griffin. That woman made a video of her holding a papier-mâché (maybe it was made of something else, doesn't really matter) replica of Trump's severed bloody head like how an ISIS or other Islamic Terrorist group would hold the head of someone they just executed. (also think of The Purge, that may also be accurate)
Then they made this garbage animated cartoon about Trump, it was there only to bash him, was so unfunny, and got a place on Mr.Enters animated attrocities
As for Trevor, I think he is biased, not as bad as others but pretty much ALL the Comedy Central has a Left Biased. This can be seen when Jimmy Fallon (think it was him, maybe another) got attacked for NOT DRAGGING Trump enough.

And he actually has a really hilarious Trump voice he uses to mock him. He's really good with accents, you should check him out. He runs The Daily Show. (I also happen to have a decent Trump voice I use to make jokes with my mom about Trump. Learnt from the best.)

Sounds like someone's fangirling :3
I know what he runs, and one of the biggest reasons I do not like him is because he replaced John Stewart. I grew up watching that man with my father, I may not have liked my father's politics as I grew up, but I always found John so funny. And he would go after everyone if they did wrong, it just happened the Right did more wrong at that time, but he called out Biden long before all of this.
Think of The Godfather 3. Is it a bad movie? No, it's actually pretty good, but when you have the legacy of The Godfather, one of the best cinematic masterpieces to live up to, pretty good doesn't cut it. Trevor Noah as far as I can remember only ever called out one thing the Left defended, some ISIS woman who wanted to come back to the UK after trying to go join ISIS. I remember this because fringe leftsist were saying we need to be forgiving, and Noah had said (something along these lines) "you see this? *points to his neck* this is my neck, above it, is my head, you are not allowed to cut off my head. I'm not going to just say "welcome back" when you go to join up with people who want to cut off my head"

One little nit-pick about this convo. If anyone comes to this video and see all of this hell, there gonna wonder what the hell happened. So I might delete this conversation, if you don't mind

if you wish to you can. No problem. Your blog after all,

Responded here to bits of the video.
According to what I watched int the video I showed, there was science and evidence on the boys according to the video I showed you, they did attack someone else, and yeah, if you go attacking people and beat them to to a bloody pulp, society SHOULD hate you.

Again, exonerated by the criminal justice system

Oh yeah because the criminal justice system is perfect and never gets anything wrong *cough cough* OJ Simpson *cough cough* watch the video I showed.

Watch. The video I showed. Ken Burns is a fucking liar.

judge a person by the content of their character

Judging them by their character, how they attacked a former marine, how they were part of a mob, how they had that blood and other fluids on them, I say they deserve to rot or die. If you can show me why the video I showed should not be believed and it holds water, then I will believe Trump incorrect on this and jumped the gun.
Nothing I saw in those videos directly showed Trump was talking of the CP5 at least from what I saw. He had an ad that said to bring back the death penalty and bring back cops, then he said he wanted people to hate the CP5 for their crimes, nowhere are the two linked. That one CP5 member said that it was, and that was it. Biases source at best, then he goes even further to say it was meant for all black people, losing all credibility he may have had by reaching way to far into speculation.
There were other instances of attack, there were groups of 30 who attacked, I would want death for them all, and I would want stronger policing, Donald Trump, 100% correct.
I would want people to hate them for their attack on that jogger, Trump, 100% correct.
If you address the video I showed you and can prove it not credible, then I can say Trump was wrong but can understand his outrage at the time.
If I am daft, please point out where exactly in the video Trump called for them to be killed, because I sure didn't see that. I saw outrageous speculation by one person with circumstantial evidence at best, and other parts of the video that video plus nearly all the second were completely contradicted by what I had showed, please address the video I showed because it shows that a lot of what is said is utter lies.

At most Trump had his blood up from the horrendous of this ordeal, other people were attacked, many got away and will never be found. To put all the anger on the ones who were caught is not unreasonable. Anger does get things done, it's sad but it's true, and death dissuades other so long as the sword is applied at just the

Trump slammed Twitter, the CP documentary was a one sided piece of garbage that did not the horrific crimes these young men did in the park

Donald Trump is 100% right on that. Watch the video.
Maybe they don't deserve death, but they were guilty, and don't deserve the money they got, or getting let off.

These individuals here, tortured a mentally disabled white person because they were scumbags. One only got 8 years

8 years. That's it. Now, I am going to 100% defend Trump, because I would be a hypocrite for not doing so.
I don't completely like this about myself, but I'll admit to it. My sin is wrath at times, and when I hear wretched details or even more see them, I want someone to die.
Details get your blood up, badly. I fully admit this. Hearing someone got killed makes you feel bad, hearing they suffered immensely makes you shudder and hope the people who did it get what's deserved. Now let's say there is video, showing the crap they did, the torture, the pain, the inhumanity. When I saw some of what these fuckers did, I wanted to see them die publicly. I wanted to have their executions be shown to all Ameirca. I say these people deserve a painful death, the jury thought otherwise. Is it healthy to be this way? Unlikely, but I get why Trump would want them dead, hearing the details of the case, heck yeah I get why someone would want them dead, for what happened to the jogger and what happened to the teacher/former marine. Especially hearing this happen to someone who served our nation?

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No, he said that we should try and inject bleach into our bodies.

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Sounds like someone's fangirling :3

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Donald Trump is 100% right on that. Watch the video.
Maybe they don't deserve death, but they were guilty, and don't deserve the money they got, or getting let off.

For the last time. They didn't kill anyone! I watched a documentary with proof that these boys didn't do anything. I watched two documentaries actually. They were going to the park with some friends not knowing what they were going there to do, And don't you dare say that they don't deserve the money! Korey Wise, (a member of the group) is mentally traumatized because he spent 16 years in jail for a crime that didn't even involve him! He just wen to the police station to support his friend who's name was on the list. They do deserve every penny they got. They didn't do anything.

Can you imagine spending your whole childhood in jail. Not being able to graduate high school, not being able to go to collage. And you just believe some BS conspiracy theory people made up that they don't deserve the justice they got? I hate to say it but shame on you.
If you watch the documentary series: When they see us. You will understand why I'm mad and disapointed.

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These individuals here, tortured a mentally disabled white person because they were scumbags. One only got 8 years

This is not true. They didn't torture anybody! They were the ones who were abused and mistreated!! I don't know where your getting this information from, but you need to get your facts straight. This is 100% inaccurate. I'm mad that you don't understand the matter of the situation and you don't see what happened is bad. Stop defending people who are wrong about this!
You don't understand what they went through, but I don't either. But I'm not going defending and believe people who have no proof whatsoever. I'm not watching those videos you sent me because I know I'm just gonna get it with a wave of bullshit.

The boys were innocent. That's all I've got to say.

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I'm confident either this video, (or the one I sent you in the other blog) tackles this part. Again, please do watch, if they do not adequately do so please address this.
(also will be responding in bursts as you seem to have)

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No problem with that ^W^
I'm guilty of fanboying plenty over things before.

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Firstly the bit of Trump being 100% correct was talking about how he slammed Ken Burns and his crap.
I didn't say this killed anyone, but that they were part of a mob of 30 that attacked a teacher

Can you imagine spending your whole childhood in jail. Not being able to graduate high school, not being able to go to collage. And you just believe some BS conspiracy theory people made up that they don't deserve the justice they got? I hate to say it but shame on you.
If you watch the documentary series: When they see us. You will understand why I'm mad and disapointed

For the love of God. Watch the video I sent you. Shame on you for not doing this. Nothing you have said addresses this video. It interviews other policemen that were involved, shows their side, shows that Ken Burns is a fucking liar!! He lied, dragged people trying to paint them as racists. Watch the video, watch it.
Before you had said it was like talking to a brick wall....this....this feels just like that. Tell me why, the video I showed you, way down, is not to be believed....if you can do that, I can agree with you, but until I get proof that holds up to scrutiny that the video I showed, is not credible, I am going to believe the jury made a mistake in letting them off.
I can imagine being young and in prison is terrible, just as I can imagine being young and part of a group of 30 that attacked a former Marine.

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This is not true. They didn't torture anybody! They were the ones who were abused and mistreated!! I don't know where your getting this information from, but you need to get your facts straight. This is 100% inaccurate. I'm mad that you don't understand the matter of the situation and you don't see what happened is bad. Stop defending people who are wrong about this!
You don't understand what they went through, but I don't either. But I'm not going defending and believe people who have no proof whatsoever. I'm not watching those videos you sent me because I know I'm just gonna get it with a wave of bullshit.

Aurora....I...*sighs* You make me want to scream...you really do. Do you not, watch anything I show you? Do you just ignore me??...I am asking this honestly, I try and be respectful...I do, but, you're trying my patience. You're a friend, so I'm gonna take a deep breath, and explain this to you. *inhales....exhales* ready? Good.
These....are DIFFERENT. PEOPLE.
These are not the CP5. These are people who assaulted and tortured a mentally disabled white person. Separate case. I was bringing this up, to show that this makes me outraged, and that I can understand where outrage and the demand for people to die comes from, because it makes me feel this way.
That is what I was trying explain here, but it shows instead you just don't watch anything I show you, because you could have figured that out in seconds of watching the video, when they mentioned CHICAGO.
Until you watch what I showed you, like I had the courtesy of doing for you, all you say, is gathered solely from one side without hearing the other. That is not how one deduces who is right and who is wrong, you hear from the defendant, AND, the prosecutor. You have only heard from Ken Burns, watch the video to see why that documentary is trash, that there was other evidence, that things are not as black and white as they seem. I have given you my time in watching these videos, now I ask you do the same for me, and if you can, show why they aren't credible.

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Oh...
Sorry
But the reason I though you were talking about the Central Park Five, or the Exonerated Five as I like to call them, is because you mentioned the money and I thought you meant the money the Exonerated Five were given for all that time they spent in prison.
I'm sorry, I just got mad and didn't even watch the video.

But for the record, I never watched the Ken Burns doc. I only watched another one done by the artist Ava DuVernay.

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So...I watched the video. And I am sorry for all the Spanish curse words I called you in my head. thinking about this differently. I see that some people are just sick in the head and like to abuse people for no reason. It's sickening to see this happen and I think these men need to be locked up for what they did. But I believe not all blacks are like this. It's just a stereotype that people created because of this.
Sorry for not watching it earlier.

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It's alright Aurora. I understand that emotion can drive people, in fact, that was exactly what I was saying when I brought this case up, so I can understand jumping and knee-jerk-reactions. Though I will say, let this be something to take away, that emotion while useful for getting things done, does not always have a foundation in logic, and may lead to things we would not want if we were in the right mind.

Also, I thought you mentioned "When they See us." Isn't that the deceptive thing Ken Burns made?

Yeah those people are sickening, and I CERTAINLY don't think all black people are like this, in no way shape or form
And did you watch the others videos that I had posted throughout this? I think they have good perspective, and if you think otherwise, I would want to hear why either to concede and admit they were wrong or stand my ground and show why they are credible.

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No! When They See Us is a documentary series made by an film producer Ava DuVerney!
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