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    Just Thought to Ask

    Would anyone be interested in a Consequences-verse group? This is the third time I've had people asking/talking about alternate stories based on it and I'm fully supportive, but it made me think.

    The group would be a place for the collection of stories set in the Consequences verse as well as similar stories playing on the concept of Gary Stu/Mary Sues in a more literal sense.

    Obviously I'd include some more concrete info about the Consequences verse for people to play around with, not just stuff from Emeris' limited perspective.

    Just something my crazy (and hyped up on one too many scoops of pre-workout stuff) brain thought to ask before I head off to work.

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  • 1w, 23h
    Do you want it now or later?

    Right, so, I've been writing up the next chapter for Consequences of Unoriginality and it's been pointed out to me that it's gotten a bit... hefty.

    ... like ~15,000 words hefty.

    And I just got to the date proper.

    So, um, yeah... would y'all like me to get this posted up with the actual date in the next chapter or should I finish up with the date in this chapter?

    ---

    Also, huge thanks to PandoraBoxable for the cover-art for the story! Apparently something even cooler is in the works, mad props ;-;

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  • 2w, 1d
    Preview of Consequences of Unoriginality's Next Chapter

    Just super happy with this scene so far and couldn't help but share:

    ”No!” I couldn't let that stand! No! My head jerked around, there would be no confusion! I couldn't even let myself think of that happening! “I would-”

    My words caught in my throat as my breath hitched in pain and I flinched away instinctively, my horn lighting up.

    There was dead silence as I stared at an equally wide-eyed Sure Scissors, my brain trying to catch up-

    There was a wet *thwap* and my eyes flicked over to the sound-

    … was that my ear...?

    That was a piece of my ear.

    My eyes returned to a horrified looking Sure Scissors.

    She'd just cut off part of my ear.

    We both looked over at the bloodied piece of ear on the hardwood floor.

    That was practically half of my ear, cut off at an angle.

    Our eyes returned to a lock and my ears unconsciously flexed, a sharp, stabbing pain followed by a dull ache making themselves known in my mind at my right ear. The soft *pat* of a droplet hitting the floor was soon followed by a slow pitter-patter as the blood began to drip freely from my ear... stub of an ear...

    Sure Scissors pupils had shrunk to tiny pinrpicks, “I-I-I-... I'm sorry-” she stammered softly past the scissors in her mouth as she began to tremble like a leaf.

    She'd cut off half of my ear!

    She hadn't meant to... obviously so.

    Her whole job was to cut hair and not do exactly that!

    Her name is Sure Scissors, her cutie mark is a pair of scissors, this is probably the first time this has happened!

    She was freaking apologizing! After going on a damn tirade about how saying sorry wasn't enough!

    She was apologizing.

    The light around my horn died out, and I could practically feel myself deflate, “You're forgiven."

    “What?!”

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  • 3w, 1d
    Future CoU stuff and Help Request/Challenge

    Right, here's the immediate future of Consequences of Unoriginality:

    Next Chapter:

    The Date, Emeris' overly forgiving nature finally gets him in some trouble, the second to last "Emeris focused" chapter;

    8.5 out of 12 scenes completed, currently 8,700 words

    Chapter After Next:

    The Doom Party, Pinkie's party for Emeris finally happens, last "Emeris focused" chapter for a solid while

    Still sketching out the scenes

    Next Arc:

    The Crystal Empire. Things be fucked up yo. Due to things Emeris' did as Gary, this isn't the canon Crystal Empire craziness. It's much worse. Celestia and Luna actually send a guard along with the Elements of Harmony (not just the Mane Six, but Elements included) to the Crystal Empire. It's gonna be crazy.

    I consider this the point where the ball is finally rolling for the story proper, we're finally away from Emeris fixing the immediate consequences of his curse and now with him as part of a group dealing with the more far reaching ones and the trials/tribulations of other ponies.

    The Request / Challenge

    And this brings us to the request/challenge:

    I've got some vague outlines for the guard that accompanies the Mane Six to the Crystal Empire, but I need some help. I suck at names amongst other things. Feel free to suggest additions or alterations to the following ponies!

    Pony 1

    Name: ???

    Species: Unicorn

    Cutie Mark: Skeletal hoof lit by emerald flames

    Color: ???

    Mane/Tail: ???

    Appearance: Small unicorn, one of his sides is a patchwork of stitches hiding a nasty secret, his front left hoof is a skeletal, necromantically powered prosthetic

    Rank: Broken Horn Coven Arch Warlock

    Specialties: Black (Emotionally Fueled) Magic [Eighth Degree Master], Necromancy [Ninth Degree Master]

    Personality: Arrogant. He believes he's above all other ponies. Supremely loyal to Celestia even though Luna is technically his boss. Devoted to his job.

    Relaxation: Necromancy

    Pony 2

    Name: ???

    Species: Earth Pony

    Cutie Mark: A flag waving in the wind with his house crest on it

    Color: ???

    Mane/Tail: ???

    Appearance: Absolutely enormous earth pony, over half the size of Celestia, bigger than even Big Mac

    Rank: Lieutenant General of the Equestrian Army

    Specialties: Command, being terrifyingly fast and strong and skilled, social connections, money

    Personality: Pleasant, calm, focused on his family, a relatively small noble house, everything is focused on his honor, status, and to help them

    Relaxation: Maintaining his family lands

    Pony 3

    Name: ???

    Species: Lunar Pegasus (Batpony)

    Cutie Mark: Silloughette of an earth pony with the shadow of a Lunar Pegasus

    Color: Very dark blue-gray

    Mane/Tail: ???

    Appearance: Large lunar pegasus

    Rank: ???

    Specialties: Shadow manipulation, shadow-diving, stealth

    Personality: Loyalty focused, wants to finish her term to the best of her ability before getting back to her herd

    Relaxation: Flying at night, playing with foals

    Pony 4

    Name: ???

    Species: ???

    Cutie Mark: ???

    Color: ???

    Mane/Tail: ???

    Appearance:

    Rank: Zenith Guard Captain

    Specialties: ???

    Personality: Pleasant and happy, good natured, crush on one of the Mane Six (Tis a secret who!)

    Relaxation: Elements of Harmony fan

    Pony 5

    Name: ???

    Species: Zebra

    Cutie Mark: ???

    Color: Black and White

    Mane/Tail: Black and White, style?

    Appearance: Decent sized

    Rank: Battle Shaman ; Zenith Guard Lieutenant

    Specialties: Battle potions, hoof-to-hoof combat

    Personality: Seeking strength, pleasant otherwise, wants to be the strongest, focused on survival of the fittest

    Relaxation: Training

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  • 5w, 2d
    Consequences Lives! A Poll (AND ALL THE THINGS)

    Okay, we've got a lot of business to cover, so I'll try and make this quick. The poll is at the end though.

    Consequences of Unoriginality is once again live and kicking! I'm working on the next/final chapter of the side story Despair of Gary Stu as well as the next chapter of Consequences of Unoriginality. Chapters won't be coming out as fast as this last one did, that's an exception due to a surprising amount of free time.

    Revisions:

    Now, there's been some (VERY) minor changes to Consequences made because I had an idea that had to be written in (so much better drama and story!). Don't worry about re-reading the story for it though, we're talking about a few sentences worth of change over 110,000 words. You should be able to pick up on it just from reading onwards.

    Cover Art!

    I'd love to have cover art for Consequences of Unoriginality </broken record>

    I'm willing to commission art, but I'm not sure what would be appropriate for the story and any suggestions would be awesome. Commissioning will be at least a month away due to budget concerns on my part.

    TVTropes:

    I always feel awkward with the thought of updating the TVTropes page for Consequences of Unoriginality. It's awesome that it exists! But I don't know what's appropriate for an author to do about their own page. Thoughts?

    The Future!

    Emeris has been doing good so far, things are looking up for him! ... for the next arc. Things are going to drift from Emeris being the center of the story (FINALLY). He's our PoV character still, but he's not going to be the focus of the story anymore! *champagne poppers* Wooooooo!

    Thanks!

    Huge thanks to Aburi for helping me with this story, he makes things so much better like you don't even understand ;-;

    I'm definitely not saying no to prospective editors or pre-readers though. Aburi is awesome, but he's only one guy.

    Also, support his good story! I have it on good authority that there could be an equally delightful sequel to it :trixieshiftright:

    Spoilerific Stuffs and IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!

    Okay, fair warning, this is gonna be sorta spoiler-y for a bit.

    The summary for the rest of the story is going through a bit of a revision since it was written before Season 3 was even done, let alone Season 4 was a thing. So the future of the story is being rebuilt a bit.

    One of the things I've been considering is such: Could the Elements of Harmony have been used to revitalize the Tree of Harmony? As in: Would it have worked if Mane Six blasted the Tree of Harmony with the Elements rather than giving the gems back? There will be a comment below to vote on with your opinion.

    As someone asked (and I'll codify here): I kind of need some OCs. I could make them myself, but I always love tapping into other people's creativity! I need some pony nobility, some griffons (primarily nobility), nobility for some various species, and some military / administration ponies that would work for Twilight once she's a princess, since Emeris helps her settle into her job and assumes command of her military guard.

    Now for the really spoiler-y stuff:

    If Emeris was swept up in the magical mystery cure which swaps their cutie marks and talents (and noting that his cutie mark is, terrifyingly, directly connected to black magic and knowledge of it), what are suggestions on who gets swapped with whom?

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#1 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

Great so far. :)

#2 · 96w, 1d ago · 3 · ·

It's funny how these kind of fan-fictions are becoming more prominent than the actual Gary Stus we hate.

#3 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

Hmmm I'm interested on seeing how this story will pan out but more interested on how everypony will behave once the curse is gotten rid off on how they will interect with emeris compared to the other story

#4 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

i see this ending in one of two ways, either Emeris curse is broken and he manages to find a home and live his life though probably with years of counselling though seeing how the ponies react when its broken would be interesting. the other way is that eventually the curse proves to much and emeris decides to end it, though i hope that doesnt happen

#5 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

Well, isn't this all sweetness and light?

#6 · 96w, 1d ago · 1 · ·

Hm. I'd love to see the reaction to the typical comeback for "Go to hell"

Emeris looked at the sobbing mare with eyes just as rimmed with tears. "I'm already there."

#7 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

As said above, if he manages to get the curse broken again, it would be most interesting seeing as how the others would react to him and how they'd interact with him.

Though this does have Tragedy tagged. . .

#8 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

fantastic, as usual

#9 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

Interesting. Good to see a different take on this concept.

#10 · 96w, 1d ago · 2 · ·

So how's this for a dark ending:

Emeris tries to kill himself (or get Celestia to do it) due to all the devastation he keeps inadvertently causing, but his power renders him unable to die. This leads to either:

A) He ends up being imprisoned / exiled far away from Equestria where he cannot do any more damage.

B) He gets his powers stripped as per the original story, and while everyone feels horrible for their treatment of him (inverting his treatment in the main story) he is unable to cope with the trauma and guilt.

C) You cut the poor guy some slack!

#11 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

>>1818267

:pinkiehappy:

>>1818274

I know, evolving "meta-game" I guess. I just hope this one's worth the look :twilightsmile:

>>1818346

:pinkiehappy:

>>1818433

:trixieshiftleft:

:trixieshiftright:

:trollestia:

>>1818718

I do try to warn you :twilightblush:

>>1818865

... I have got to find an opportunity to work that in.

>>1818909

:trollestia:

>>1819132

Happy to provide! :pinkiehappy:

>>1819895

:pinkiehappy:

>>1820329

So how's this for a dark ending:

Emeris tries to kill himself (or get Celestia to do it) due to all the devastation he keeps inadvertently causing, but his power renders him unable to die. This leads to either:

Entirely possible!

A) He ends up being imprisoned / exiled far away from Equestria where he cannot do any more damage.
Also possible!

B) He gets his powers stripped as per the original story, and while everyone feels horrible for their treatment of him (inverting his treatment in the main story) he is unable to cope with the trauma and guilt.
:trollestia:

C) You cut the poor guy some slack!
And why the fuck would I do that? :pinkiehappy:

#12 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

Well, what the hell. Bring it on!

Though, you did ask permission to use the character, right?

#13 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

>>1820536

:rainbowlaugh:

Yes, I checked with myself, it went a bit something like this:

Andoriol: Hey, me, can I use this character for this plot bunny?

Andoriol: I don't know me, it's kinda dark.

Andoriol: But it could be totally awesome and poignant and cool!

Andoriol: Again, very dark.

Andoriol: We haven't flexed our writing muscles much y'know, and writing creepypasta/horror isn't something we've tried before.

Andoriol: True, but still, do we really want to torture him like that?

Andoriol: Duh?

Andoriol: Touche. But what would be the point of it? We shouldn't just torture the character just to torture him.

Andoriol: I have an awesome idea, see?

Andoriol: Hmm, true, that could be rather heart-wrenching... Alright me, you can use him.

Andoriol: :yay:

#14 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

>>1820567

Man, you also took his user name? I do not want to know the conversation on that! :raritywink:

#15 · 96w, 1d ago · · ·

Awww, so in this story Celestia adopt Emeris as his son, that explain the whole prince thing, that is a very nobel gesture from her, I can't wait to see how this will continue and how did she will get rip of the curse

#16 · 94w, 6d ago · · ·

So when they remove his curse the reception the general population's reaction would probably be the opposite from the other story?

#17 · 92w, 2d ago · · ·

I can't figure out the comment that started mind clearing it up a bit I'm a bit confused :applejackconfused:

also DEPRESSING AS :yay:! but really brilliant

#18 · 91w, 2d ago · · ·

I'd prefer it to be lighter, but it is still interesting.

However for me personally Emeris's interactions with other ponies after curse is lifted (if you plan any not dark ending of course) is much more interesting.

#19 · 91w, 1d ago · 1 · ·

Launched into the earth's core, enjoy your eternal hellfire emo kid~!

#20 · 87w, 5d ago · · ·

Well, way I see it, when (or if) they get to the curse removal it'll either remove the curse and leave him as an Earth Pegasus (as opposed to an Earth Unicorn) or, and this one's more likely in my opinion, since the Element's of Harmony were needed to remove the curse in the original story they'll only make things worse.  Think about it, when they were first used on Nightmare Moon, they banished her to the moon for 1000 years instead of turning her back to Luna.  Here, not only is Emeris/Nega-Gary (what I'm calling him) a source of chaos, but the mane six get all, well...:ajbemused::flutterrage::pinkiecrazy::twilightangry2::rainbowdetermined2::duck:(no angry Rarity icon sadly).  The results won't be pretty.  I'm putting money on what >>2003340 said and he'll be banished to the core and burn!  And of course, being the Elements of Harmony, they'd make it as painful as possible.  When/If he gets out, he'd be insane!

...shit, I just gave you an idea didn't I?

#21 · 87w, 5d ago · · ·

>>1822565 >>1861510

No comment~ Spoilerz.

>>1959868

Sadly, this is supposed to be a bit depressing. But what are you confused about? I'll try to help :twilightsmile:

>>1996848

Glad you like it, hope you'll enjoy what I do with it once I get to that point :pinkiehappy:

>>2003340

Ya gotta admit though, he's got better reasons to be emo than most :rainbowlaugh:

That said, he shouldn't come across as whiny, sad and a little emo (in the negative connotation of the word)? Yes. But not whiny. If he has, please tell me.

>>2124190

No comment~ Spoilerz :pinkiehappy:

#22 · 87w, 5d ago · · ·

>>2124758

it's not too bad, I was just getting in on the action :pinkiecrazy:

#23 · 87w, 5d ago · · ·

>>2124758

Looking forward to see it. :)

Although I hope work with Twisted reflections will not delay one of my favorite fics (I mean Consequences of course) too much.

#24 · 87w, 5d ago · · ·

>>2124758 the comment which inspired this

#25 · 73w, 6d ago · 2 · ·

...why doesn't he just off himself? :rainbowhuh:

Well, okay, then there'd be no story, but I can imagine it'd be a solution that would cross most people's minds and there's just no mention of it in his dialogue as to why he didn't do it.

#26 · 72w, 6d ago · · ·

I wonder if I'm just seeing (reading) things, but Rainbow Dash and Twilight don't seem to hate him *quite* as much as the other ponies. They still insult him and give him hateful glares, but they don't throw rocks at him or attack him. Makes me wonder if the curse, here, brings out everypony's inner evil to the surface to direct it at "Gary". Celestia has none, so she's not affected, Luna less (having been purified recently), and the mane 6, being Elements of Harmony, have less inner evil than the average pony, so they're *slightly* less affected.

#27 · 72w, 6d ago · 1 · ·

>>2621345

Knew there as something I was forgetting to address. And he doesn't off himself because it's against his own code. Suicide just isn't an option in his mind.

>>2652380

Cool theory! But how would that explain ponies actions in the original story? How would the curse work in that case?

#28 · 72w, 6d ago · · ·

>>2653521

I'd reply that in the actual story (which I love, BTW) the curse brought out everypony's instinctual want to love and be loved, and ups it to eleven. That's how Fluttershy and Twilight act so out of character under the original story's GSE - their want to love and be loved is perhaps greater than anypony else's.

The one thing that doesn't make sense from this explanation is Luna's resistance, since she definitely wants to be loved... (so does Celestia, but one could argue she already is adored and worshipped by a whole country, so it'd make sense for her not to want any more love). ... I think I'll just go with your in-story explanation that princesses are naturally more resistant to the curse :twilightsmile:

#29 · 70w, 6d ago · · ·

Oh gawd please let this story have a depressing ending. No compassion beyond stuff with Celestia is allowed:flutterrage:

Do me a flavah and make Emeris suffer:heart:

#30 · 67w, 4d ago · · ·

>>2715043

No offense, but I couldn't disagree more. I just read Background Pony, :pinkiesad2: I've had my share of sad endings for the next 8 years.

Please make it no worse than bittersweet, Andoriol. :applecry:

#31 · 67w, 4d ago · · ·

I see where you're coming from, there are a lot of well written sad stories:twilightsmile:

But I say there isn't enough:pinkiecrazy:

Oh well, lets see what Andoriol does:twilightblush:

#32 · 59w, 2d ago · 1 · ·

Ahh, now while I found the concept of Consequences to be interesting it did not truly draw me in, even when I went to read all presently uploaded chapters, fair assessment and all that. This on the other hand presents a more interesting scenario, and the characters draw me in far more easily.

In the original story, despite the logic behind Emeris' suffering I could rarely find myself sympathizing with him, perhaps because the suffering and awkwardness was only mentioned in passing. Here on the other hand not only it is far easier to understand his pain, his upset is described in the kind of detail that allows one to experience it far more fully than "Rainbow wouldn't stop coming on to me". The dead children, the jeers of the regular folk, it strikes a far more effective cord. Though it could be a matter of personal perspective.

Of course, what draws me to desire to see more, rather than being satisfied if the story ended at chapter one as with Consequences is the idea that one blast of the Elements will not undo all the problems. While in the original it merely took some time and an embarrassing incident with a merging spell to undo any damage to the relationship between Emeris and the main sextet. Here on the other hand, the hate is far more easily justified, we see monsters spawning and murdering in gruesome detail, people suffering in ways that inspire loathing and retribution without a curse for such a thing in place. While in the original all the destruction and death all took place off-screen and Emeris at most suffered from some ostracisation. Here dear Emeris can expect the ponies to hate him regardless, the mother of that foal is not going to be able to look at him and simply walk by regardless of whether or not it was his fault, the pain is real and so is the need to lash out.

The populace as a whole can celebrate the loss of his curse, but I sincerely doubt that everyone who suffered as a result of it and his presence will be able to simply move on, and it is that suffering that intrigues me. I wish to see how a person such as Emeris would endure such things and how the main sextet would deal him despite their own feelings over what his presence caused and in turn their own curse brought hate.

Awaiting the next chapter.

EpsilonWinter

#33 · 35w, 3d ago · · ·

"This story will have an ending"

Considering that it's gone 14 months without an update, and the original fic has gone nine... I'm going to say no, no it won't.

#34 · 6w, 10h ago · · ·

Nice.

#35 · 5w, 6d ago · · ·

Ya know, if Celestia went full on Magnificent Manipulator she could probably still convince the girls to use the ritual in this universe. She'd just need to dress it up as a spell to ultimately destroy Emeris.

#36 · 5w, 2d ago · · ·

I'd love to hear what the cast actually thinks about this version of "Gary".

#37 · 4w, 6d ago · · ·

EMeris you are A GARY STU, YOU ARE FILTH!!!! YOU DON'T EVEN DESERVE TO BE AKNOWLEDGED AS A HUMAN BEING OR EVEN SOMETHING THAT EVEN DSERVES COMPASSION OR SYMPATHY. HECK YOUR MERE PRESENCE WOULD MAKE SCP 096 GO INTO A FIT OF RAGE, EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT IT'S FACE.

#38 · 2d, 18h ago · · ·

>>4984535 An intriguing concept.

#39 · 2d, 8h ago · · ·

>>2621345

Twilight: "If he wants to end the curse, why doesn't he just do us all a favor and kill himself?"

Celestia: "He has tried. Many times."

#40 · 2d, 8h ago · · ·

>>5164707

That's a wonderful line that I wish I could use! But part of Emeris personality is his absolute refusal to attempt suicide (a result of a more encompassing personality trait and promises he's made).

Beautiful line though! :rainbowdetermined2:

#41 · 2d, 7h ago · · ·

>>5164741 Thank you. I'll try to come up with another one which takes into account his refusal to just simply lay down and die, so you can use it. :pinkiehappy:

I can see a few paths this story could take, many of them good, with varying degrees of darkness. For example, if his innate "ability" to cause these disasters is somehow removed, it might be interesting to see how society's hostility to him changes, if it does.

For example, you might have the Mane Six now trying to be more friendly to him, only to quickly learn he has literally no desire to deal with them and would be perfectly happy if he never saw their faces again for the very long remainder of his life.

#42 · 2d, 7h ago · · ·

>>5164795

I know how I'm going to end it, I'm just struggling to get it all written. It's going to be bittersweet, especially when contrasted to the results in the primary story.

That said, I might elaborate on the idea of him losing the FUCK EVERYTHING aspects of his nature but not the power. Could be interesting :eeyup: / :moustache:

#43 · 1d, 22h ago · · ·

>>5164813 Good to know. If you need some help, maybe I can do something?

I would like to see that played out, if done well. I also find the idea of him retaining his alicorn form but losing his innate ability to cause mayhem, and seeing how Equestria reacts intriguing.

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