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I just hope to entertain people with my fancy horse words. I always appreciate criticism.

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"These papers are my reports upon my studies of equestrian cutlure, physics, genetics, magical theory, geology, politics, and war. Viewed in as scientific form as I can manage.

These are my theories and observations as best as I can describe them, and their contrast with those in my home reality. Hopefully, these observations will shed further light upon the world of Equestria for those within, and should these ever manage to go further, those without."

By Emeris Fillson


(Inspired by both Xenophillia and The Xenophillias Guide to Equestria, two very awesome stories.)


This is directly connected to my other story, Consequences of Unoriginallity, and are in-character observations of the main character. These observations do not occur at any specified point in the story, and as such, may have slight spoilers. Reading of one does not require reading of the other.

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Linked Story: Consequences of Unoriginality

While these are from an in-character perspective, these papers are going to be primarily my own suppositions on the world of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, drawing heavily from Xenophillia by the completely awesome Anonauthor. Seriously, whoever you are, write more shit, that was awesome.

I am very open to suggestions, comments, further suppositions and I'd particularly love to include counter-papers by other researchers in the equestrian world, that'd be awesome.

If someone wishes to use this information or world-building for their own equestria, feel free, I would just like to know about such usage because it'd make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know that I made something useful :heart:

I strongly suspect that the geas involves Name and/or Soul magic.

The change in c is well under an order of magnitude; a more reasonable interpretation of the data is that his estimate of the hooflength/foot conversion ratio is slightly off.

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The Punnett square assumes an XXY female, which not all breeding mares are. Assuming an initial distribution of P% XXY females and Q% XXX females (where P%+Q% = 100%), we have:

XXY+XYY: 2p/9 XYY; 5p/9 XXY; 2p/9 XXX
XXX+XYY: 0q/9 XYY; 6q/9 XXY; 3q/9 XXX
q=(1-p), so: 2p/9 XYY; (6-p)/9 XXY; (3-p)/9 XXX

The proportion of XXY females in the new population, which call P2, is then (6-p)/((3-p)+(6-p)) = (6-p)/(9-2p). Graphing this equation reveals that low values of P will result in P2>P, and high values of P will result in P2<P, implying that over time the ratio will tend towards a stable middle point. We can find that point by solving p=(6-p)/(9-2p), as follows:
p=(6-p)/(9-2p)
9p-2p^2 = 6-p
0 = 2p^2 -10p + 6
By the quadratic formula:
p = 10/4 +/- sqrt(100-4*2*6)/4
p = 5/2 +/- sqrt(100-48)/4
p = 5/2 +/- sqrt(52)/4
p ~= 4.3 or 0.7
We know we're looking for a proportion, so we want the one between 0 and 1.

QED: About 70% of the mares in Equestria are XXY, and about 30% are XXX.
We earlier calculated that we have 2p/9 XYY (i.e., males), which works out to about 15%, or just under 1/6. So we should expect slightly more than five mares to every one stallion, which is very slightly more than observed.

I would speculate that, since stallions are considered more valuable due to their rarity, it is possible that a mare that has foaled a colt (and who therefore must be XXY) may be considered a more valuable mate. Further research is indicated to test this hypothesis.

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You.

I love you.

Platonically if you're a guy mind you, but I love you.

On the first one, Yep! Note that "In the modern theory-" line about the magical schools, that's very important. There are other, unnofficial schools of magic, as well as ones that have been absorbed into others, etc. etc.

The thing about c is intentional, though I'm not sure which direction to take it really. The intention is that things like inertia, mass, and other sundry things are altered noticeably, but not world-breakingly. What direction would you take it? My personal knowledge runs out pretty fast on this.



Thank you for doing that math for me! So much. :heart: I knew that I hadn't accounted for that, and Emeris would have accounted for it eventually, but I didn't really have the time to sit down and figure out what math I'd have to do to account for it.

And yes, in this world-building exercise, mare's who have demonstrated mothering a colt are more valuable than others.

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> What direction would you take it?

It seems to me that advanced physics like relativity requires fairly careful study to find out. Unless there's a physics lab somewhere in Equestria, it's unlikely Emeris could reasonably come to justified conclusions about that stuff.

(I don't think Gary couldn't do it, either. Since his dress designs turned out awful in retrospect, we can infer that the GSE made him an acclaimed designer rather than a competent one; that is, it doesn't confer actual competence. If Gary tried to research physics, he'd come up with meaningless drivel that everyone fawned over. He might be able to build a death ray or something though.)

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You misunderstand what I mean, I meant the speed of light relative to our own :twilightsheepish:

And this isn't caused by the GSE. Emeris is actually extremely competent at this. Note how in Chapter 1 he notes that his calculative abilities had not been affected by the curse in either direction.

Also note how little he's actually confirmed and how much is supposition. He's been using magic as a substitute for technology when it comes to analyzing things (mostly genetics), but careful use of telekinesis and sense-enhancing magics enabled a large number of experiments that he simply does not have the technology or infrastructure for otherwise. As my knowledge of the physics and experiements involved is less than what Emeris' knowledge is intended to be, I cannot give specific examples, though I can try to find some.

The only one that comes to mind is the classic "Electron, Particle or Wave?" double-slit experiment. If you can find a way to generate electrons and fire them in a direction as well as detect them one by one, then it becomes easy to do the experiment.

Or, for a future one that he will do: The power of Celestia's sun. If you know the distance of the sun from the planet and have a bucket of water, a thermometer, and a clock, you can calculate the energy output of the sun. Note that he can (and will) just ask Celestia herself how far the sun is from Equestria and get an accurate answer, the only issue is converting units.

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I thought you/he were talking about the relative values of c in Equestria vs. Earth; I'm not sure what I said to give an impression otherwise.

If you're inferring the speed of light to mean anything other than how long it takes for light to get somewhere, and Emeris is, then you're working with relativity.

If he has "little more than a rudimentary understanding of physics", then it's not at all clear to me how he would even verify the existence of e.g. strong and weak nuclear forces, unless unicorn magic is capable of examining and manipulating subatomic particles with minimal training.

I think the point I'm trying to make is that Emeris probably understands less than he thinks he does about Equestrian physics, and is jumping to conclusions based on insufficient evidence.

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We're talking past each other for some reason, probably a misunderstanding on my part >_<

To start off: Yes, he is jumping to conclusions a bit.

The "little more than a rudimentary understanding of physics" line is Emeris selling himself short. While it's not official, he's intended to have nearly had an equivalent to a bachelors in physics by the time he was introduced to Equestria. And while Unicorn magic (in this worldbuilding exercise) is not capable of examining and manipulating subatomic particles, it is capable of doing so with atoms and chemicals given an awareness of and disposition towards such. Emeris was the Alicorn of the Earth for two years and more than capable of getting any naturally occurring mineral or element he so desired.

Doing so over time, he tried to create an Equestrian periodic table of elements... and ended up with something very similar to the one we're/he's accustomed to. As in, basically identical. This is from both the chemical properties of the elements, as well as the size of their atoms and their atomic weights (figured out by taking a mole [or fraction thereof] of atoms of the element, weighing it, and calculating its atomic weight from there). This implies that whatever causes atoms to be... well... atoms... is functionally identical to our world.

Combined with other experiments such as "Does spinning a magnet induce an electrical current?" and the reverse "Does a wound copper wire around something magnetic create a magnet?" as well as others, he has data to support the two world's being nigh identical in function, though the data doesn't explicitly point to them being identical 'under the hood'. That is him guessing and getting overly excited about the ramifications/possibilities.

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Given those observations -- especially unification of electricity and magnetism -- I'd say the conclusions are reasonable. Also, if he can directly measure the sizes of atoms, he can use that to establish the length conversions.

But, yes, he's definitely getting overexcited -- if the difference in c had as far-reaching implications as he thinks, the modified physics couldn't have produced the same periodic table.

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I'm trying to read your conversation with the author, but being a teenager who got a 60/100 for physics, can we please just say:
IT'S MAGIC, DON'T QUESTION IT.

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I (and by extension, Emeris) totally didn't think of using atoms to derive length conversions. Also not sure how you'd go about it to be honest.

I had him over-excited about the difference of c for a couple reasons, the two main ones being it's in character for him, but also because I myself don't know the full ramifications of what a difference in the speed of light (*coughmassless-particle-speedcoughcough*) would have on physics :twilightblush:



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Actually, Hayquill is doing basically exactly what I requested. And this story/sidestory is mostly about the physics of Equestria because of/in spite of magic. In spite of any appearances otherwise, I greatly appreciate Hayquill :twilightsmile:

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You can do that if you like. This is a side-document, meaning it's optional.

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Well my biology finals are in two weeks time, I guess I can read this and tell people I'm studying.

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I honestly recommend this. Funny, but also informative.

And suddenly, last paragraph says that the human is an alicorn... explanation please?

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Connected story. Shameless Plug!

Main character, the IC writer of these papers, was once human and through means that will be eventually revealed within said connected story, was transported into Equestria explicitly as a Gary-Stu. The prologue of the story deals with how he becomes instead a "normal" unicorn and the rest of the story deals with the ramifications of having spent 2+ years as a Gary-Stu.

While there are a number of different forms of choosing of gender in my world, this is the only system used by the warm blooded species.

Not actually true. Birds have a similar, but inverted, system, with ZZ being male and ZW being female, and the platypus has the downright psychotic(and currently nowhere near being understood) system that leads to them having five pairs of sex chromosomes.

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Whoaaaaa, wait, what? :rainbowhuh:

I knew that one about birds, though I thought they were still referred to as X and Y (whoops :twilightsheepish: ), but the platypus one is totally new to me.

To note: This is an explicit case of lack of knowledge IC rather than mine on the part of the birds, but that platypus one's totally blindsided me, say what?

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I'm serious. Platypus are just that insane.

News on it
Where I initially learned of it.

These things are crazy down to the genetic level.

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:yay:
Though if I may ask: What do you love about Emeris? For future reference and any other characters I may make :pinkiehappy:

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I think that's going to become Emeris' sort of signature really, a lot like Twilight's "Your Faithful Student" mess :rainbowlaugh:

AAHHHHHHH ARRGGHHLLEBLARGLE YOU FUCKING MOTHERFUCKERS

Best Wishes,
Emeris Fillson

Emeris, reports are half way to become the new subject of study in Equestria universities. I even see a book with the picture of him on the cover.

Something tells me that princess Luna is particulate found on this reports, after all she inspire him to write and document all of that and I bet she is eager to help him, explore more of Equestria Anatomy, history, genetic and even the mystery of magic.

Oh please make him and Luna a couple, I can see them together and this time I will win her heart the right way, and not because of the curse. Beside It may help with what is happening with Twilight when she confuse that with something he is planning.
Ah, and remember, he didn't see Luna that often because of the curse, but he admit that he like the night more than the day.

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Just kind of Emeris in general? He's an excellent, fleshed-out character (in the other fic) with a nice writing style (in this one).

You wouldn't believe some of the letters Emeris gets, mostly from stupid nobility.

He gets a lot of letters from stupid nobility.

Some are worse twats than Blueblood and try to claim him as one of their own (Emeris-face: :twilightangry2: ). Delight in Emeris suffering my dear readers, delight to your hearts content.

Typo alert: Unicorn section, 4th paragraph, 1st line "they're horn". should be their

Also:

You tell 'em, Emmy!

Question, sorry is this is a stupid question, but how Emeris is sending this reports? I thought that the flame spell is very complicated for him.
Also, how did he continue receiving letters? According to the story, ALL Equestria hate him (except Dash…kind off) And even if this bastard snobs still admire him, how did they manage to deliver letters? I doubt Derpy is going to willing deliver him letters.

Also, please, put Celestia more motherly in the future, at the begging you said that she was only testing his willpower, but I don't like much that he keep said to himself that he is a lap dog, and Celestia is still very cold. Did she is putting him in another test? The curse is finally lifted she should be more supporting, like a mother helping his son, walk again after an accident, not a Brat, that is waiting for her toy to be repair (sorry, but Celestia is starting to look a little like that) .

P.S: This is more a question for your other story, did Photo Finish will try to make him a model? I don't mean Gary, I mean Emeris, by the looks Rarity always use him as a model, and the fact that his scars give him some unique treats, i can image her try a new stile with stallions models and he as the face of her new designs.

Oh Emeris, you hide your feelings so well... :duck:

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Nah, this ain't rage mode, this is frustrated/irritated, RAGE MODE involves stabbing :pinkiehappy:

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:pinkiehappy:

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This is actually a particularly big rub for Emeris, as while it hasn't been shown in-story, he's a white boy that grew up in a black ghetto. While he was never discriminated against, he saw it happen to his friends and noted how differently they were treated compared to him. It bothers the fuck out of him anymore.

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Intentional. Emeris 'types' these out with his mind and makes typos, and without spellcheck, he misses them sometimes. I thought I'd had another in there, but I guess not.

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Question, sorry is this is a stupid question, but how Emeris is sending this reports? I thought that the flame spell is very complicated for him.

The flame spell is impossible for him anymore, and he's sending them through the post or, later, by dragonflame.

Also, how did he continue receiving letters? According to the story, ALL Equestria hate him (except Dash…kind off) And even if this bastard snobs still admire him, how did they manage to deliver letters? I doubt Derpy is going to willing deliver him letters.

This is a bit of intentional disinformation on my part as an author. Emeris, our PoV character, feels like all of Equestria hates him, this is untrue. Most of Ponyville doesn't even hate him. They dislike him a lot for the most part, but they don't hate him. For reasons that will be elaborated on in the next chapter and the one after it, there is very little consistent information about 'Gary' out there.

Also, please, put Celestia more motherly in the future, at the begging you said that she was only testing his willpower, but I don't like much that he keep said to himself that he is a lap dog, and Celestia is still very cold. Did she is putting him in another test? The curse is finally lifted she should be more supporting, like a mother helping his son, walk again after an accident, not a Brat, that is waiting for her toy to be repair (sorry, but Celestia is starting to look a little like that) .

The original tone was a bit of a mistake. Celestia is actually usually rather nice to Emeris. Also note that Emeris not only doesn't mind being her lap dog, the thought of her basically playing him like a political chess piece is actually entertaining to him. Celestia was the way she was to him in an intentional contrast to the way everyone else was acting to him to help him stay sane. Also, the letter is addressed to Celestia/Luna only because of the scientific information it has within, the tone of it is directed primarily at the supremeist fuckwads, whom Emeris expects Celestia to read the letter to.

... she will by the way, just to troll them because they irritate her too. :trollestia:

I apologize if Celestia is coming across that way to you, that is not the intention. You'll probably like her better in the Consequences of Unoriginality (Alternate) that I have planned where Emeris gets all the power and other effects of the curse, but instead of loving him, ponies are made to hate him. Again, with Celestia the only pony able to consistently resist it.

P.S: This is more a question for your other story, did Photo Finish will try to make him a model? I don't mean Gary, I mean Emeris, by the looks Rarity always use him as a model, and the fact that his scars give him some unique treats, i can image her try a new stile with stallions models and he as the face of her new designs.

Photo Finish has not met Emeris yet, though she did try to get Gary to model. Though at least that was just clothes. Other mares tried to get him to "model", as in, in porn.

Rarity hasn't seen him with his additional scars yet, but the mains reason she is using him as a model is that it's a nice way to spend time with a friend and because he's the only stallion of his size in the town other than Big Mac who's off limits. That and for all his grumbling, it does't bother him much and she knows it.

Also to note: While a lot of people try to make scars out to be cool, most of Emeris' scars are deliberately not cool and really rather ugly. The only ones that are classically cool are the ones on his cheek, and even then they will only be so when they are fully healed (Currently, they have ugly scabs over them). Soldiers would consider the ones on his stomach impressive, but otherwise, most of his scars are rather ugly.

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He does! It's actually a deliberate bit of characterization on my part, the dichotomy between his 'academic' and 'irritated' tone and the tone he normally takes when talking to people (ponies), in particular, cute females.

He is so biased. Thankfully, he at least admits it :rainbowlaugh:

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Ah thanks that explain a lot, so she is acting like that to keep his sanity, now a see, the chess game is only because his mental state, I get it.

Oh, one final question, I know he work for free with the Apples, but other than that, what is his real job? did he is some kind of ambassador or politician of the princesses?

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Actually, the chess game is because it amuses him personally and because she's a powerful political leader. Celestia is manipulative to a certain degree, but she can be delightfully blunt about it with Emeris because it amuses him considerably and he actively enjoys being helpful. The harshness was (mostly) because of his mental state. That and I can't write Celestia worth a damn most of the time, that's a factor.

And he's currently working for free for the Apples because he promised to, but will eventually work for them for pay. As an alicorn, he actually did not have a job, and was instead given a royal stipend to stay alive, a small one at that because he had an otherwise impossible ability to just pull bits from nowhere to pay for things. Now though, he needs to find a job, and he has found one at the Apple farm. He fully intends to be paid for his work eventually, but is just fulfilling his word about doing work for free.

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Got it, so for now his work because of the promise I know that but latter one he will actually work for expecting a payment in the farm, I see, je maybe from there will start a love interest with AJ…or maybe Fluttershy or Luna, those 3 look that caught his attention, especially the last one.

Givem. . . lets see. . . as many bucks as you'd think I'd like (Which is rather variable :trollestia:) for me Emmy!

Emeris isn't going to be happy when he finds out that she sent that to the Princesses, those were personal notes :rainbowlaugh:

As always, comments are lurved!

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Well, it's already been pretty well established that Twilight doesn't seem to care about Emeris's feelings due to his eeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiiiiiiil.

Ah, this makes so much sense- including why all the Pegasis Stallions we've seen in the show turned out to be jerks.

World building, yay! And Twi still doesn't get the 'whole other order' thing, does she? Emmy's old species may still be mammals, but that's about it

Ah, you've changed the name.

It's "scientist".

Love the world building, my favorite chapter of this side series has to be the genealogy of ponies. Have to ask though, is some of this world building influenced by Xenophilia?

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(Inspired by both Xenophillia and The Xenophillias Guide to Equestria, two very awesome stories.)

Source: The very first line in the description

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She does care, she just isn't thinking everything through, something Twilight does :rainbowlaugh:

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Even after having their brains directly linked, it's hard for Twilight to wrap her head around the thought that Emeris is from a world where there's only a single sentient species that has manipulator digits without any form of magic at all. She intellectually understands it, but she doesn't really get it just yet.

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I had that right the first time I changed it, how the hell'd it change... :rainbowhuh:

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All of the social (and some of the genetic) worldbuilding is either directly from Xenophillia and its side stories, or built from scratch using those principles. The magic, physics, and genetics is entirely my own work (and thus, probably sucks :rainbowlaugh: ).

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You better not be fishing for compliments, because I found your version of pony genetics to be very workable and fascinating

Ya do good work, boyo

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I see a payback in the future with Twilight diary and a missing pages.

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I'm proud of the initial concept I had for the genetics (Triploid genetics... why not?), but the maths I've done are haphazard at best as shown by Hayquil's additions :twilightsmile:

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Oh, it'll be even better than that :trollestia:

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Also, now that Emeris mentioned, in the last chapter of the other story. Twilight try to avoid his horn by all means because of that or because of the consequence of doing that during a mind reading? Also, I hope that whatever happen is just temporal, Emeris and Twi, now having a cockel of personalities resulting of the fusion of their brain will be EXTREMELY awkward. Especially to AJ and Dash

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I have not seen Hayquil's work. Would you mind terribly if you gave me a link?

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