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Why the dislikes? I'm afraid to read it. :D
This is written ok.
I enjoy fatal vore, probably because of the dominance behind it. Torture is absolutely not my thing though and I guess that is the reason why people downvote this.
You won't get any vote from me, but don't let the unfair downvotes stop you from doing what you like, as long it stays fantasy.
What's with the dislikes? I enjoyed it.
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Frankly, I never expected vore fics (especially cruel ones) to brake any (positive) records, so I don't really mind the downers. To the contrary: if thumbing down makes them feel better, the fic has fulfilled its purpose. Perhaps not in the way it was meant to, but I'll take it.
Uh...I'm just here for the cockvore.
The down votes ARENT unfair. It's not because of the fetish material, but because it's needlessly cruel, meanspirited and unpleasant to read through. It's like reading the script to A Serbian Film. It's too damn dark, the logic behind the story makes no sense, it's just a skeleton to hold the fetish on. And there is a place for fetish work.
But this isn't very well done, and it's too assholey. Too dickish towards people who don't deserve it. So I cannot reasonably support this.
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I've noticed the same. Most vore stories get positive upvote/downvote ratios, generally with 10-20 more up than down. Even 'conventional' hard vore manages to scrape by, and both manage even with pretty flimsy justifications for the fetish work.
However, when it veers into literal torture-porn territory (such as this story) the downvotes come in spades. Which is at least somewhat understandable, since that kind of content is about as far away from 99% of the population's idea of 'pretty hot' as you can possibly get. This is also the kind of stuff that, if actually produced with real people really doing it, is actually illegal in every way in a lot of developed countries.
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99% is a bold estimate in an age when Game of Thrones makes ratings soar while showing sadistic rape, skinned elderly women, stabbings of pregnant women and burning children. One might then wonder whether my mistake was not to cross a hypothetical line of good taste, but rather to neglect disguising this "crossing" with a decent plot.
Clearly such wonder would be misplaced here, as the trusty voter o'meter testifies. Apparently I crossed a line of good taste of sorts. Or rather, some people decided I did, which is more or less the same thing. Personally, I find the question whether one can judge fictive content in comparison to reality highly interesting as such. A common habit as though this is, I still can't help but doubt the haste with which "extreme" content is often condemned on moral grounds. In the end, it's just words, and yet it might disgust people as if they had seen the scene with their own eyes. It really is fascinating, when one thinks about it.
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"99% is a bold estimate in an age when Game of Thrones makes ratings soar while showing sadistic rape, skinned elderly women, stabbings of pregnant women and burning children. One might then wonder whether my mistake was not to cross a hypothetical line of good taste, but rather to neglect disguising this "crossing" with a decent plot."
I don't much care for it either, but to be fair, at least in GoT there are high moments for the more likable or noble-intentioned characters and even the bad people get horrific deaths. Not so much here.
But I must object to one thing you said with REALLY grinds my gears.
"In the end, it's just words, and yet it might disgust people as if they had seen the scene with their own eyes. It really is fascinating, when one thinks about it."
This boils down to "Bah, why get emotionally invested in a story"? Which is a silly statement and reductive. Emotional investment is needed for a story, and people wouldn't be on this site if they weren't at least somewhat emotionally invested in the MLP realm. That or, like SOME people...outright trolling those who are. Words are powerful. Words have meaning. Stories have meaning, depth and can influence life. As such, we treat the work and words and stories that inspired us with an air of reverence because of what it means to us.
I don't think this story did that.
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It was not my intention to contest this. It would be insane of me to try and contest this, after all the other fics I've written.
That is very correct, all the way to being obvious. My fascination had more to do with the fact how people get a strong emotional response from mere words even when those words were not designed to do that. My "bah" was not of the form "why get emotionally invested in a story?". It was a tacit question of why get emotionally agitated by this story; a story which was meant to incite one form of sexual arousement and nothing more. For me, this story doesn't have characters one could get invested in in the first place; all it has is some dummies, again serving but one purpose. Twilight Sparkle isn't featured in this fic. Only her name is, along with whatever imaginary version the reader has of her. In fact, I think real cruelty was if I did make this a real fic; if I did focus on (re)creating Twilight as a character and not as a dummy of pleasure and then went on and let all the nasty stuff happen to her.
So my short answer to anyone who feels offended by this fic because of the cruel treatment the characters therein go through would be this: it wasn't me but you who committed the atrocities, by thinking there were characters involved to begin with. I already did a pretty decent job in keeping the immersion level at minimum by thinning the "plot" to nonexistence. Anyone who still feels emotionally offended really had to try hard to archieve that.
No offense to anyone but I just need to went here after witnessing the same stuff happen twice and same crappy arguments being used again by the same person despite what the author says.
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Oh jee, came back to rant about yet another fatal vore fic being needlessly cruel? Look, we already had that conversation in the past and it ended with you admitting that you stalk and downvote any fatal vore stories as well as most gore fics... That is when you are not busy comparing this "non-fiction" as you call it (referring to your opinion that it isn't even worthy of being called as such) to your crappy fic with an OP character who represents the universe itself and cute cuddly willing vore he does half of the time when he's not acting as a hurt, one-dimensional, kid-retard.
Can you please stop seeking and writing shit on every story YOU KNOW you wouldn't like? There were lots of warnings but instead you prefer to act as an a-hole paladin who thinks everyone must like what he likes. Seriously, I contained myself the first time and later when I saw a few of your comments here and there but now it's just not fun anymore.
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Emotionally invested and downright retarded to count it as reality are two different things. You can pity the characters for getting murdered (BUT THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP AFTER READING THE DESCRIPTION) but when you start calling the author sick or sociopath or accuse him of supporting IRL torture... well, let's just say that then you have mental issues. You need to distinguish reality from fiction, that's what he tried to say. Don't pull that crap of straw Man fallacy out of your ass like you always do. There is NOTHING wrong in writing gore fiction. Some people like it, some people write it to went, it is DEFINITELY better than wenting it IRL and it HELPS to PREVENT this. There are different genres of fiction and trying to apply the standards of one genre to all others is complete idiocy. if you don't like a certain type of writing - just don't read it!
This story was NEVER supposed to have deep meaning or motivational speeches. It is FETISH CLOP and, remembering our previous discussion, it doesn't need to be insightful or wise or anything like A-grade romance novels. Have you seen hentai and how characters are in these writings? Have you seen the dialogue there? This is the SAME THING and some people LIKE IT just for CLOP. If you are looking for deep romance or epic action with deep characters, then you are looking in the wrong place and should have stopped right after READING THE DESCRIPTION! And no, before you start saying anything about your other "deep and motivated" vore story, it doesn't have ANY of the qualities I've described above as stated in this review.
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/284663/fluttershys-fetish
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/255199/dash-to-the-hive
You are mistaken. Fatal vore with explicit death scenes rarely gets positive balance even when it's perfectly written. I admit that this story has many weak points but the score it has is just ridiculous and compared to the two stories I referenced it is clearly not just because of quality. Plus there is a whole genre of fiction that features sexual or non-sexual torture and murder which wasn't getting THIS much hate last time I checked it.
Also, some folks are into hard stuff and the story did have plenty of warnings about what it contains. How do you justify people downvoting it just for the idea or after reading what they knew they wouldn't like? Writing a good vore story is hard and most people that didn't downvote it just out of spite seem to never have tried writing anything of the sort without making it look unnatural.
The only real issues I saw is a weird choice of perspective where we don't get any feelings from the dying characters and are stuck with basically just observing them from sidelines and an OP dragon at the end. I doubt it warrants that much hate just because of these two and I haven't exactly seen anyone else point out anything other than "I don't like the whole genre of torture fics but still read one to leave a downvote and hate!" >_>
Even through this is a kinda dark for my tastes in regards to vore. I liked how we are the observer watching all this happening, though I would have liked Rarity's POV reaction just for laughs. Very few of the vore fics/comics that I've read never seem to stay with the observer like you have. They always want to capture everything regarding to the current prey/victim/food (take your pick) which to me destroys the whole thing completely.
You have my upvote for that good sir
Wonder whay you'll do for the next one
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The key thing about Game of Thrones here is that it's not meant to be erotic. You're not supposed to jerk it to pregnant women getting stabbed or whatever. When someone does decide to jerk it to that kind of stuff (again, like this story here) it takes on a whole new meaning and everyone intensely dislikes it. For another example, lots of people like Saw films but the thought of someone getting off to Saw films is utterly repulsive to the vast, vast majority of people who watch Saw films.
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The first story contains scat, which 99% of people hate. And it's perfectly justified too, since apparently you are actually hard-wired to find shit disgusting because of the ridicuous health hazards of hanging around it. And the second one, from what I've read, features Fluttershy being a complete and utter OOC retard to further the 'vore', then it's made out like you're supposed to feel bad for her at the end when she has a brief moment of not being a brain-dead moron and realises what's going on.
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I love how you pretend I said things I didn't. It's funny that way.
"Emotionally invested and downright retarded to count it as reality are two different things" Aaaaand now you lost the moral high ground...or what little you had...through insult. Your argument is asinine. Just because something has a fetish in the description doesn't mean IT CANNOT BE QUALITY WORK. You have no understanding of that. A work does not have to be a skeleton to just hang a fetish on. Fetish work can be meaningful, have character, depth, plot, intelligence, and heart, the same way normal stories can, the same way fanfiction can. I don't dislike this because it's fetish work, but because it's not well written fetish work compared to other fetish work.
You don't seem to comprehend that. But I think I know why. Because you've not even WRITTEN anything on this site. So you're arguing, in a way, from ignorance. Who are you, somebody who has contributed nothing to the site, to talk down to those who have? Even the author I have more respect for than you. Cuz he at least has put himself out there in his work. I don't LIKE the work, but at least he actually took the time and effort to make something.
All YOU do is criticize. Which makes YOU come off more like a troll than an actual writer. A more articulate troll than most, but still a troll.
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1-st: If someone doesn't like scat they should probably just skip it instead of downvoting stuff.
2-nd: If you gave it a try I'm almost sure you'd be surprised how much better plot-wise it is compared to all other vore fics. That story is THE most detailed and well-motivated willing vore fiction I've EVER read. 12 pages out of 21 are just a build-up and set-up for the vore during which the author perfectly portrays emotions of the prey as well as methods which allow vore to happen like it happens and how the prey managed to achieve the whole thing. If people downvote this MASTERPIECE, the only vore story I've read (and I've read quite a lot, pony and not) that actually cares about plot line just because of scat then I have nothing to say to them other than call them complete retards, which I already did.
3-rd: She never found out in the end so it wasn't intended to guilt-trip anyone. I don't know about you, but for me the whole thing of a close friend finding you and instead of helping making your condition only worse, accelerating the hatching process and then watching how you get devoured without even treating you as a living being is the hottest thing in that story. If not for Fluttershy, RD would have survived and I wouldn't have seen an awesome hard vore sequence with my favorite pone, so I'm totally willing to let it slip, even though it is unrealistic. Still, sometimes sacrifices must be made to show certain fetish scenarios just because there is no better way to incorporate them =P
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There was no moral ground to begin with when dealing with people like you nor do you deserve any.
Here is your best quote from our previous conversation, tell me if it reminds someone of what is going on here:
Too bad you started promoting your awful fanfic and straight out ignore responding and defending your position instead preferring to shout "I did it better in MY story, honestly! My main character NEEDS to be OP and represent the entire UNIVERSE just because it needs to be for whatever reason and to do cute, TOTALLY JUSTIFIED vore. There is nothing wrong with that, my story is perfect compared to this GARBAGE!". Pro-tip, actual quotes are represented as such and everything else (marked in "") is just a compressed version of the event told from my perspective.
Compared to what fetish work dude? Show me examples of fatal vore stories that are "meaningful, have character, depth, plot, intelligence, and heart". The only vore story that had it (AND I DARE YOU TO MENTION YOUR STORY EVEN ONCE) was the first link I provided back there, and look where it took it. NOWHERE! You don't seem to realize that it is FANfiction, people don't get ANYTHING in return for their writing. Do you expect them to spend weeks thinking up a plot line and believable motivations for each character to perfectly portray their behavior while they are being bucking FRIED ON A PAN?! What is the point of that?! Do you even realize how retarded your demands for top-notch quality stuff are when we are talking about a fetish clop one-shot filled with fatal vore? Other stories need it because they are not clop but adventure, romance or whatever. They are supposed to tell a story, make us feel as if a life-changing event has happened to us or to our lovable characters... This, on the other hand, is made to get off folks who are into dark stuff. And that's it. Authors usually don't have motivation to write huge fetish stories preferring to write a small one-shot instead just to get the idea out of their system.
Do you honestly tell me that most of clop and short romance stories out here have perfect, non-repeating plot-lines, believable characters and all that stuff you seem to expect from an award-winning clopfic? You go and write a hard vore fic where Mane6 get killed without breaking any of the requirements you've set. Come on, I CHALLENGE YOU, do it! There is a genre of writing that is focused on purely sexual stuff, like Hentai. They don't give sh*t about plot because all their readers want is SEX. This fanfic is THE SAME DEAL, why do you keep ignoring this fact and making the same half-assed statements that are complete and utter bullshit? Answer me, do you think Hentai shouldn't exist because it is not deep enough for your liking?
I proofread 5 stories and the first fic where we met was written by me and my co-author. I have since relinquished that position in favor of being called an editor but I WAS a co-writer before folks like you began hating on it and it made me feel bad. In fact, I'm slowly writing another one right now, but I may never post it because of people like you.
I'm not a native English speaker and as such it is extremely hard for me to write a story due to limited vocabulary in my disposal and my tendency for awkward sentence structure... not to mention tenses.
And here is your true face - arrogant, whiny little b**ch. As I've already said (and it wasn't me who AGAIN started figuratively comparing dicks and claiming that he or his stuff is better), I proofread 5 stories, the top of them being at 6,596 views and >500 likes. Do you think your pitiful 5 stories of which only 2 are barely in positive balance on 11 upvotes max make you BETTER than anyone else? Do you think you are entitled by that to act the way you do?
I'll tell you what, YOU and people like you are what makes this fandom stink and why people hate us. You can't even be called an adult with behavior like this... Going all over the place throwing uncalled opinions on stuff he doesn't like as if it was his holy quest for world justice. How PATHETIC.
And I took several hours of my time to proofread it only to find you throwing the same shit as on my last story where I spent DAYS to actually write it. And thanks for showing your opinion on me and everyone else! You can believe me when I say it is at least partially mutual (since I don't think I'm better than anyone just because I wrote, or proofread in my case, a bunch of shit).
Huh, how funny you said that... You see, if we look who regularly criticizes vore fanfics on the basis of them being fatal or not and hides behind excuses about story quality then it wouldn't be me who does that... Who is the troll of us two, mmm?
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There's a couple of things I'd like to point out here, but not so much in the spirit of an offensive. First, limiting the meaning of "erotic" to material to which people can jerk off offers a rather slim and vague view of the concept. Second, who knows if GoT was meant to be "erotic" or not, whatever the word means? There's certainly scenes there one might call erotic. Can these be separated from the scenes one "should not" consider "erotic"? Or is the hypothetical "eroticism" of the show to be taken as an intricate feature of the whole?
Perhaps the ultimate violence was induced presicely to invoke, shade or otherwise play with the effects of eroticism? Simply saying that GoT (or Saw, for that matter) was not meant to be "erotic" is a hasty assumption in my mind. A similar observation might be made about the claim that "vast, vast" majority of people would find the "eroticisation" of Saw or GoT "utterly repulsive". Again, it's not at all clear what such a claim really is about, but taking your word for it and narrowing all the options to the scenario where a person jerked off to the red wedding, yes, I might also be tempted to say that a good amount of people would not follow their lead. But it's another issue to say that they'd be repulsed by it: that would be a question how prone to judgement they were, what their own tastes were and so on.
I'd also wish to repeat the point I made in my previous message: there is indeed a difference between GoT and my fic, and that is that my fic is not a story, as has been noted by several parties here. It's simply a rack to carry a fetish. It contains no characters in the strong sense of the word, by which I mean it contains no characters I meant the reader to become identified with. It contains dummies designed to fuel certain fetishes. As such, it's a different deal to jerk to this fic than it would be to jerk to the red wedding. Why? Because the red wedding contained characters, which are way more closer to persons than my dummies are. The red wedding is cruel in a sense a car crash test, or my fic, could never be.
This distinction cleared, I'm not arguing that it somehow "redeems" the fic from the dislikes. Nothing could do that, because a dislike is simply one saying "I didn't like this". That's a fact, from which there are no redemptions. What is at stake here, I believe, is the reason behind the dislikes, I which I've found misplaced: disliking my fic because of its "cruelty" is to mistake it for a story. Disliking it because it's not a story is all but fine. Anyone can dislike anything they want as far as I'm concerned. Or jerk to whatever they want, so long as it won't hurt anyone else.
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Because usually fatal vore stories don't have it. Usually it's the non-fatal ones that do because they don't sacrifice as much characterization and plot or the like in the name of servicing the story. There are a few on sites like FA or DA or Aryion but even then it's rare. Hence why this kind of story really doesn't function well.
I'm not gonna write a hard vore fic of that because it's disgusting and it would be doing it to people that don't deserve it. That kind of story comes off as meanspirited, cruel and needlessly dark towards characters that are undeserving of such treatment. Hence why there's so many on the site that hate it. Unless the sort of stuff is done to a well-known bully from the show or a villain, then you could argue a sense of catharsis sort of redeems it. But this isn't that.
Oh, and I looked up your whole "proof-read" claim. While you've got ONE story that actually seems to be doing quite well and is a one shot which looks promising, the only other ones you did were ones you vehemently defended from the "haters" as it were and...guess what? One was a story I REEEALLY I didn't like, which featured over the top cruel vore indulgences. "Altar Games" and the other you proofread? This.
So this all comes off as you being angry somebody criticized your work, or at least work you cared about enough to proofread. So you don't come off as objective in the slightest. I don't claim to be objective, I'm aware I'm opinionated, but at least I try to have my opinions based primarily in the mainstream and backed up by common writing schools of thought. You're just a guy who claims people that don't like his work or work he likes are "retarded".
No, seriously, looks. This is his comment on "Fluttershy's Fetish":
"Anybody who downvotes stories like this must be a complete retard". Yeah, that's real mature.
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First, that comment was a half-joke/half-truth. I meant it more as a joke even if I rally feel this way due to aforementioned reasons. You wanted a vore story that has plot, justifications and believable characters - that is the one. How do you defend people (totally objective people of course and not hateful kiddies with 0 intelligence) who downvoted it now? Also, I made this comment today after I got annoyed by this story and the other one receiving a similar score even though they are CLEARLY on different level. It just irrefutably proved all my views on vore userbase of this site.
Also, you didn't have to dumb it down, you know. The version given by you in the quotes and the actual quote given right above it does NOT mean the same thing and is just a blatant use of Straw Man fallacy... again.
I do stand by my words here tho. People who constantly downvote fatal vore stories out of spite without even giving them a chance just MIGHT be retards in my opinion. They can't allow others like whatever they want and poke their nose into it shouting complete crap. "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!" is a behavior of a 6-year-old child and grown-up adults who display it deserve to be called retards from what I think.
Also, you are still ignoring the hentai question (2 times in the row now) and most of my other comment...
BTW, score is there to help users indicate how good or bad the story is written, as in writing QUALITY. I'm pretty sure they can decide whether or not they want to read it because of contained fetishes just by reading the description. Do you downvote stories with your worst pony or worst shippings as well?
Pff, SURE, I totally believe that FOR YOU soft vore stories SEEM better justified and written. For me, those are even worse most of the time. How can you seriously say this stuff and not laugh at yourself? Soft vore is more "meaningful, have character, depth, plot, intelligence, and heart"... Because one character wanting to get inside the belly of another character is totally normal and justifiable behavior while a wild beast catching a pony and devouring it is not. Sitting in a belly with no oxygen, too little space and acids all over the place is so justifiable. There is NO justifiable vore except the really hard-core realistic one that doesn't break any IRL rules. Almost every vore fanfic is unrealistic from the very start, and if you are referring to soft vore stories being better (without any examples of course) just because they are usually longer and don't end after the character is eaten then this is just pathetic... Actually word "pathetic" describes a lot in our conversation. Your claims are the same as if two people were arguing that rock-n-roll is better than classical music - totally retarded (I seem to be using that word a lot today, don't I?) and utterly arrogant.
Also, if fatal vore stories don't have what you're looking for, then why are you still reading and hating ALL of them instead of ignoring them in favor of searching more soft vore stories?
And that's a CLEAR proof that you hate all fatal vore. So from now on you can stop excusing yourself by claiming you downvote for quality. Now I am completely sure you do it for the idea itself, which you've proven several times in the past but this here is the final proof I needed. Also, LOL for using "common writing schools of thought" for VORE FANFICTION, I'm sure they must have an entire section on how to PROPERLY sit in a belly XD
The only thing you are right about from both this and previous conversations is that I'm not objective. Though even here you are wrong as to the reason why I'm not objective. You see, I was born this way... I liked hard and fatal vore as well as some sexual gore from before kindergarten. I am in this fandom for almost 4 years now and I've had the worst social experience in my life when it comes to MLP and vore. This fandom has so many haters and trolls... Paladins in shining armor EVERYWHERE! I've been defending fatal vore for past 2,5 years now, mostly on Derpibooru where every fatal vore pic gets downvoted no matter the quality and gets a ton of hateful comments.
I don't argue with you here just because I proofread this story. No, I argue with you because you are an a-hole who constantly fouls the mood for everyone who like this stuff and I see you almost everywhere I go. Fimfiction has the same problem as Derpibooru or the fandom in general - too many mentally sick people who can't grow up and let others enjoy whatever they want. It is probably fitting how a large chunk of an adult audience of a show for little girls display somewhat retarded or childish behavior (no offense to anyone cuz there are plenty of normal folks here too).
So yeah, it's not about you or my works (even though I do feel annoyed at you constantly claiming yourself or your writing to be superior every time we talk), it's about people who act like a-holes. i just feel that someone needs to act as an a-hole to counter-act them, so that's what I do when I lose my temper. You justify your actions by following mainstream opinion? Well then, I will justify my actions by counteracting mainstream scum (not all mainstream folks are bad. it's just that some of them think that popularity makes certain stuff better than its analogs/rivals and that everyone must accept it as universal truth leaving no room for personal opinions). To sum it up, you can ignore and don't answer whatever part of this you don't like, after all I don't expect you to answer almost anything because your position is utterly pretensions and one-dimensional to which there is no excuse.
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"First, that comment was a half-joke/half-truth. I meant it more as a joke even if I rally feel this way due to aforementioned reasons. You wanted a vore story that has plot, justifications and believable characters - that is the one." But they DON'T act believable and DON'T justify what they do.
"Also, you are still ignoring the hentai question (2 times in the row now) and most of my other comment..."
The rest of your comment in regards to Hentai? It's an image, not a story, meaning I have to somewhat lower my standards because there's not a lot of expectations except "Please just let it look good". If it DOESN'T look good and in fact, looks ugly or the proportions are ridiculous or stuff like that, then it's worth critique. Does that satisfy you?
"Pff, SURE, I totally believe that FOR YOU soft vore stories SEEM better justified and written. For me, those are even worse most of the time. How can you seriously say this stuff and not laugh at yourself? Soft vore is more "meaningful, have character, depth, plot, intelligence, and heart"... Because one character wanting to get inside the belly of another character is totally normal and justifiable behavior while a wild beast catching a pony and devouring it is not. Sitting in a belly with no oxygen, too little space and acids all over the place is so justifiable." Vore itself is very fantasy-based, so screwing around with the rules of physics is fine to an extent. But screwing around with how characters from a show we know and love would react or behave isn't, not really. You're limiting what you think of soft vore to your IDEA of what you think it is. In short, the very thing you deride me for doing. You argue I'm unfairly judging this work because I have an idea of what a fetish work should be, of what a story should be, and I'm imposing that view on the story, but you're showing that same kind of bias when it comes to non-hard-vore work.
"Also, if fatal vore stories don't have what you're looking for, then why are you still reading and hating ALL of them instead of ignoring them in favor of searching more soft vore stories?" I don't hate all of them. There's quite a few of them I like. But most of them aren't on THIS site. Did you ignore me bringing up the other sites?
"And that's a CLEAR proof that you hate all fatal vore. So from now on you can stop excusing yourself by claiming you downvote for quality." No, it's a factor, but not the deciding one. Much in the same way that good mechanics can be what make a poorly-plotted game be overlooked for it's bad story. If it has one but not the other, it evens out. But if it doesn't even have BOTH, well...then I downvote it.
"The only thing you are right about from both this and previous conversations is that I'm not objective. Though even here you are wrong as to the reason why I'm not objective. You see, I was born this way... I liked hard and fatal vore as well as some sexual gore from before kindergarten. I am in this fandom for almost 4 years now and I've had the worst social experience in my life when it comes to MLP and vore. This fandom has so many haters and trolls... Paladins in shining armor EVERYWHERE! I've been defending fatal vore for past 2,5 years now, mostly on Derpibooru where every fatal vore pic gets downvoted no matter the quality and gets a ton of hateful comments." I wasn't aware being a paladin or a boy scout or the like was a "bad thing". Everyone should be one. Because we should all strive to be just and good, as Thomas Jefferson said. Stuff like this is whining "Oh the social justice warriors are ruining everything" nonsense.
"So yeah, it's not about you or my works (even though I do feel annoyed at you constantly claiming yourself or your writing to be superior every time we talk), it's about people who act like a-holes. i just feel that someone needs to act as an a-hole to counter-act them, so that's what I do when I lose my temper. You justify your actions by following mainstream opinion? Well then, I will justify my actions by counteracting mainstream scum (not all mainstream folks are bad. it's just that some of them think that popularity makes certain stuff better than its analogs/rivals and that everyone must accept it as universal truth leaving no room for personal opinions)."
It DOES make certain stuff better for the most part. The MOST part. Why? Cuz as the saying goes, 'Too many men can't be too far wrong'. And I'm done arguing with you. I fundamentally disagree with your views on vore, on writing, and on pretty much EVERYTHING and we ain't gonna meet in the middle one iota. Good day, sir!
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Who "they"? Did you actually read the story? All characters there actually act believable and justify what they do, so that just proves that you are ridiculously biased or haven't even read it. For bucks sake it has 12 pages out of 21 just for just explaining why and how Fluttershy did what she did. And yet you prefer to point fingers at UNNAMED fics (thankfully not yours this time) and tell that they are better.
Huh, so drawn clop with no believable characters or ANY plot line is fine but a moderate written clop story is not? Weird. In any case, those are just your preferences and likes so keep it to yourself because I'm definitely sure than not everyone thinks this way... I, for one, certainly don't. For me there is a genre called "clop, fetish, sex, whatever" which covers stories made exactly for clop and when it has a plot line or believable characters doing more than just having sex or partaking in a fetish I treat it as explicit romance. That's it.
I didn't exactly see any distortion in character behavior in this story or its prequel. Heck, the ONLY place where you could even try arguing about this is Twilight's last sequence but that's arguable at best since she had her motivation explained there.
I'm not showing any bias. In fact, I'm doing exactly what I want YOU to do and what you should have been doing. I don't like soft vore, so I OMIT IT. I don't go leaving hateful comments on it or downvoting it, I added it to my filters on derpibooru after reading a few stories and deciding it's not my thing since I like my stuff realistic. In fact, I wouldn't have even mentioned soft vore and my opinion on it if you haven't started accusing all hard vore stories for having inferior quality than your beloved unnamed soft vore select few. Good thing that you didn't go proving why the concept of soft vore is "better" than hard vore >_>
You mentioned the other sites when saying that there were SOME decent SOFT vore stories you liked. Your attempts at accusing me are lousy and pathetic at best since this is the FIRST TIME you MENTIONED that you supposedly like hard vore. By the way, I won't believe any of that after seeing your attitude unless you give me actual examples of stories that you liked with irrefutable proof by them having your comments or any other indication that you've read and liked them some time earlier.
I will be waiting for the said examples to prove that there exists a fatal vore story that you actually liked. I still don't believe what you say and treat it just as the rest of pretentious bulls**t you posted here.
.................................. I have no words for you right now................................ It is people like this that will doom humanity one day. Cattle who doesn't have a personal opinion and just blindly follows whatever is said to be popular at the time. You call THIS social justice? It is a pile of horse poo, that's what it is. It is no social justice, it is you hating on stuff you don't like and covering it up with excuses and high concepts! You are not even defending a minority but rather oppressing it, what kind of "social justice" is that? What exactly are you standing for, oh mighty paladin? And worst of all they honestly seem to believe that they are doing everyone a honorable service by shitposting their personal likes all over the place and destroying individuality and diversity of content...
That, by the way, is the strongest trait of humanity: we are all different but together we are strong. You, on the other hand, seem to be obsessed with making everyone else like you instead of accepting them for who they are, which is WRONG and low. That is why I am sick of you and your speeches.
In fact, this is complete crap and most popular stuff is almost always overrated, overpriced or whatever else while true masterpieces usually go under the radar and only later might receive some attention when the general public becomes bored of whatever stuff they were into at the time or becomes a bit brighter (like in the case with Vincent van Gogh and countless others). Here, I have my own version for you to wrap up this "fun" conversation we've just had.
That's why one must always think what is best for oneself and what one trully loves rather than blindly follow the herd. Diversity and freedom is where it's at. Also, the quotes might be somewhat arrogant but it wasn't me who wrote them =P
I would say I enjoyed our talk just because I had a chance to bring out your true pretentious nature and intentions but I'm sure that this conversation didn't change anything and you will still continue being an ugly zit on the face of this fandom and humanity in general by continuing your "just and good" behavior (sarcasm). The fact that you didn't learn anything from our previous or current conversations actually disgusts and saddens me at the same time. I'm honestly not sure if people like you can change themselves for the better or even be changed with external help... It just might be that their condition prevents it from happening and that self-righteous attitude like this together with an elevated, arrogant, self-centered and disjoint world view will still prevail even after professional help =(
Wow. Vore is still my least favorite fetish but I think I see why some people like it now. So... thanks?
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...Huh. Was not expecting to see that there. Gave me a little case of the giggles, that did.
Not gonna step into this little shitstorm (I only do that on Tuesdays, with very close friends), just wanted to say thank you for the mention. No matter the reason, it's appreciated.
Well that was shit. i thought i might have found a quality vore story. guess ill just get back to waiting for the next one.
I havent read something this sick in a while but, i did read the entire thing and you are a good writer when it comes to vore and gore. Nice job
I don't normally throw my self into the fire and brimstone but the trouble certain people cause pissed me off
Now to the review of this story:
Characters: good at portraying how one would react seeing her Friends killed and devoured, then Getting fucked and finally killed
Plot: holy hell I guess
Vore: very good and very detailed
Overall I give it three pinkie pies and one luna aka 5/5 stars
Wait until Celestia hears of this, she'll skin that sick monster alive for this.