Day after day Spike helps Rarity with her work, and it always ends with him coming home dead tired and worn out. Worried about the consequences that this could have on him on the long run, Twilight confronts Spike on the matter.
Inspired by Continue by The Megas. Dedicated to Kamikakushi. Special thanks to Novablast.
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Nice take on Rarity and Spike's relationship
"It's one of my conditions"
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Thanks!
Very well written, I liked this a lot. It's nice to see a mature spike.
Simple, yet thoughtful. I like it.
See this is why i like Spike. He's alot like me. I can be cynical, lazy, even a bit narcissistic and greedy at times (plus i frieken love lizards). He's the only one of his species and can feel isolated, im too much of a "big picture" guy and often loose people when I get into conversations. When he gets passionate he turns into a giant monster, when i get passionate i become a little bit...excitable
(by little i mean you couldn't get me to shut up if you tranquilized me).
But he and i have "old souls". Spike has a fierce sense of honor and loyalty. Both he and i would go out of our way to help others (in spite of our lazyness). He's pretty empathetic too, able to relate to others well, a feat im proud of as well.
To be honest, if i had a crush i'd probably go about it the same way Spike does
Yea i know what your gonna say. Nice guys finish last. Heroes only "get the girl" in fairy tales. And i know that. But i think that like Spike i wouldn't be able to stop even if i tried, its just who we are.
True he doesn't always end up on top but he's content with his lot in life.
....WOW WHERE DID THAT COME FROM! sorry guys i was just on a role! I always liked and identified with Spike but now writing it down...im realizing just how much we got in common!
Thanks to Lokimen for writing this story and setting me on this tirade and journy of self-discovery! Thats how you know your a good writer you get your reader to think!
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Thanks.
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Thanks, that means a lot coming from you.
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I... I don't know what to say. I should be the one thanking you, your comment made all my writing worth it. Thank you for reading and leaving a comment, you made my entire week.
5512654 I can relate im pretty darn empathetic. So if something feels good i remember that feeling and try to spread it to others.
I know what it's like to get a comment, on a work. So if i can i like to go out of my way to make a lasting, positive one.
Like Spike in your oh so brilliant story I like helping people or to put it in other terms
You reminded me why i love this show so gosh darn much! I can really just be myself here. A kindharted, sappy, wannabe knight. Here in the Fandom i can be that nice...it feels like you cant in the "real" world though. But this fandom and people like you make me at least wanna try!
Ah.... That was nice. Now if only we could get the show to show more of this side of Spike...
Could use some editing, and honestly, you could make a pretty clean case that growing up with Twilight taught Spike his current code (as opposed to having Spike just "not know").
But I so wish people would write this Spike more often. The way of the Support Character gets little in the way of "reward," but that's just it. They don't need any, and they know it'd be wrong to expect one.
Friendship and generosity with expectations attached is a sham.
I wrote a review of this story. It can be found here.
That brought a smile to my face and made me say "D'aaaaaaaawwww" out loud.
Have a favorite.
Upvoted for The Megas reference.
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To say that generosity and friendship should never be given with any expectations is problematic. Especially given that you don't bother to define those expectations, so I have to assume you mean expectations as expecting anything good. Like if if someone is nice to someone, they should be 100% happy if their sentiment is returned with contempt. And if someone works their butts off helping others, they should never expect to ever be treated with gratefulness or friendliness, because that would be an expectation of a reward.
I can't think but how main-character-centric the expression of your idea is, too. The main characters express the reasonable expectation of having reciprocal relationships (friendship for friendship, mostly) all the time, but you don't bother to insist they shouldn't expect their friends to say... like the parties they throw (Party of One), or to be kind to them and their friends (Griffon the Brush Off). No, they reasonably expect that when they are friendly to their friends, their friends are friendly back. Friendships are not one-sided relationships.
It's only the lowly supporting character that should be happy having a one-sided relationship, where they work tirelessly for others who ignore their efforts, because it's so praiseworthy that they serve the real important characters.
Fortunately, I don't think the story says that at all.
Spike does things in this story because he is rewarded: he enjoys doing it and watching others get good effects from his work. They treat him well and appreciate his efforts too, even if they don't pay him or offer to date him or give him a tangible reward. It's a praiseworthy attitude for him to have: that helping is it's own reward because of the positive reactions his helped targets have.
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That is indeed what both I and the story say. I used far fewer words; the story used far more.
I am sorry that you somehow extrapolated all that other stuff from those words, or that the results of doing so troubled you so much in the end.
Of course, if someone expresses that they do not want your friendship or your help, you are not obliged to continue to offer it. You are also hardly obliged to provide friendship and help to your own personal detriment.
But to offer it with the premeditated expectation of a specific end reward, and then to withdraw once you do not receive it, or receive something else?
That is problematic.
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Hm... well, I'm glad that we don't disagree as much. Sorry for (sorta) going off on you.
The part about supporting characters muddled the message, I think.
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Not a problem, and no hard feelings.
Yeah, I tend to get lost in my shorthand and forget that not everyone knows what I fully mean by "Support Character." Spike in the show is happy to help out those he considers friends however he can, even if he isn't all that helpful sometimes, because at the end of the day, they are his friends, and he is theirs, and they have a relationship characteristic of such. The show has never stated or suggested otherwise. But I see so many people try to twist that into him being taken advantage of (usually because Rarity won't date him as a "reward") and... well, it skeeves me, y'know?
He's a Kickass Assistant. And there's no shame in it.
Spike, you are a man!
There are not enough fics that adequately encapsulate the awesomeness that is Spike.
This one does and it does so very well.
Finally. Somepony who catches the idea of true love. True love can sometimes be tragic. But it's not about what they give you. It's about what you give them.
10/10 for being one of the only people not only on this site, but in the entire world, to understand what true love is.
That said, I do sort of hope that some day Rarity will wake up and realize that her true gallant stallion isn't one of her glamorous crushes, but a simple and selfless friend. For true love is rarely, if ever, anything like we imagined it.
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Wow, thanks a lot, man
I thought that this was simply a good story that was indeed well worth reading. This was an interesting take to the whole Spike/Rarity relationship and it did get me thinking a little bit in terms of my own experiences and relationships in the past that I have had with people and I understand what spike means; I have loved and lost many a times.
I applaud you for writing this story Lokimen, thank you!
-frost