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This story is a sequel to The Olden World


For eighteen years, Equestria's northern neighbors have been at peace.

Despite instability further to the north and far to the east, the Theocracy of Yakyakistan and the technological powerhouse of Ironridge have walked the road of friendship, sharing their best and brightest minds in the remote mountain research colony of Icereach. An underground city built by scientists, for scientists, Icereach is the crucible of the most advanced technology in the world, as well as some of the loftiest dreams: sending ponies into space, and perhaps setting hoof on the moon.

But Icereach has never even sent up a rocket, let alone a random teenager like big-dreaming me. It feels like we've been months away from a proper launch for years now, and no one quite seems to care why. For that matter, there are a lot of things no one questions about Icereach, like why there's an ancient chapel in the deepest part of the caves. Or why historical data in our libraries is censored seemingly at random. Or what we even expect to find out there, beyond the stars.

Maybe it's because I'm not a real scientist, but I feel like I'm the only one more interested in the big picture than getting my name on some invention or other. They say Icereach is the pinnacle of civilization, but there has to be more to life than this...


This story takes place eighteen years after the events of The Olden World and can be read fully standalone. Having read The Olden World is not required.

Chapters are currently posted weekly.

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It's been a year, but I'm back! This story has undergone an extensive amount of work between The Olden World's conclusion and today, and it's both nerve-wracking and a huge relief to finally put it out there. As was mentioned in the description, this story can be read standalone: it's a sequel that will give closure to a lot of TOW plot arcs, bring a lot of characters back for round 2, and eventually see Starlight return to the north in search of her old friends, but it's also written so that it can be fully understood without any of the previous story's context. Didn't read TOW? Started but didn't finish? Did read it, but forgot all the lore? Won't matter a bit.

Happy reading.

Is this story going to be as long as The Olden World?

Huh...changelingy without being a changeling. Wonder what her cutie mark really means...

I wonder if we know 'Mother' from TOW.

Also if she'd get some'a them thar patents that she's so derisive of, that could probably open doors to getting enough money for all that travel they want to do. Gotta play the game! :raritywink:

Exciting!!! I can't wait to get going on this one. It's awesome that this is a sort of spiritual successor to TOW but doesn't rely on a reader knowing TOW to get into the fic.

And so, we begin. Quietly, unassumingly, and yet, intriguingly.
an upside down crown, shapeshifting.... I have my theories.

for now though...

And now the speculation begins :pinkiecrazy:

Ether was critical to Icereach's research and the main catalyst that let us produce rocket fuel.

Collaboration with KMRA? Or an independent and/or parallel line of research?

Now that I think about it, I wonder how separate/integrated Icereach's rocket development is with previous Yakyakistani efforts.

I have the communications conference to set up for, high-priority delivery, thanks for your time.

What would a communications conference need inertial stabilizer rotors for?

an old war injury that gave Mother a lame side and made it hard for her to stir or measure things

eighteen years ago, only a few months apart. In Ironridge during the Steel Revolution, and then in the Griffon Empire when we were... you know... Had to leave."

She was a thin, dark-coated batpony who didn't look like she could bench thirty pounds, with an open bathrobe and black eyeliner and an electric-pink mane that showed telltale signs of needing its dye job renewed.

She wouldn't tell anyone her age, but a little math based on everything I knew about her said she was a year or three shy of forty. When the war came, she had been barely older than I was now.

it wasn't hard to see her fumble slightly from her tremor

a cutie mark, Ansel called it

Really curious who Mother is. IIRC there's really only one candidate we know of from TOW, and some things match (dark coat, mane color (sort of), weakness (?), able to fight (?), Hallie's age, the term "cutie mark"), but others don't (Hallie, Mother's apparent age, thinness, type of injury). I'm leaning towards someone we haven't met yet, but that raises more interesting questions (in particular, how does Mother even exist?).

/maintain a machine that could send instantaneous communications back and forth to Yakyakistan. I had never seen the machine, and its workings were a closely guarded secret

inb4 it's a pebble sitting on a table

Wonder what happened to Howe/Neon Nova's sound stone. Seems Shinespark had it last; seems Ironridge didn't get to figure out how it works in the meantime?

Give me an argument that can convince the higher-ups that there's money to be found in those crystals, get your work reviewed by a historian who can check your dates, and I'll put you in the queue for a patent

Hrm... So no blue-sky research at Icereach? That's mildly disappointing, though not wholly unsurprising.

Pretty much any skill, I could learn in a heartbeat if it related to hiding who I was or pretending to be another pony.

Like a changeling in all but name, at least in terms of raw abilities.

Ok, this is certainly interesting so far.

I can only imagine the kinds of trouble Halcyon will get herself into... On to the start of a new book!

I just woke up and what is this? It's finally out?!
And Halcyon is already rivaling Valey for best pony?!

Preemptively liking and favoriting this for later.

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Well, if you read TOW, she may not be as "un-changeling" as you think...

Congrats on being featured!

Excitedly looking forward to more.

Updating weekly feels weird.

Why haven't you responded to my comment?

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Because I don't always respond to every comment I get. Questions about the future direction of the story, in particular, I might consider spoilers, or want to leave up to reader speculation, or just not be ready to commit to an answer on - the latter, in this case. The Immortal Dream is far too new for me to give a remotely accurate wordcount estimate.

In general, there are enough good reasons I might not have an answer to a question that I figure me not leaving a comment should be equivalent to me leaving a comment saying I have no comment. I'm sorry if that wasn't a good assumption.

Hmm.. a non dirigible airship...
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say "Hello Shinespark."

And for some reason I never really understood, when I slept, I didn't dream. I remembered.

As pointed out by others far smarter than I am, this is quite fitting given Halcyon's name.

Kind of curious what Luna would see when dreamwalking. Would Halcyon just never show up in the dream realm?

And while the accident was the force that tore the old way of things down, my curiosity about the chapel had been the spark that started us building back up.

Getting some tantalizing hints, but nothing clear about what might be momentous enough to cause a fault plane in ether crystals... Or it might be a coincidence, the same way they thought the fault plane(s) corresponding to Nightmare Moon's return was a coincidence. If that's the case, I don't think we're going to know what it is given we're in uncharted waters timeline-wise.

under a framed picture of Mother when she was my age and two ponies who looked like family

What no description of what they look like? :twilightangry2: I'm half convinced these are deliberate red herrings hinting at Felicity/Senescey/Larceny, but there's just oh so little to go off of.

My new tangled-web-of-red-string hypothesis is Larceny, but there's very little (if anything) to support that...

the one functional thing Icereach's surface was home to these days was a small military installation.

All of Icereach's yaks lived there

Hmmm... Wonder if what Herman said in TOW still applies: "And while I know not what was delivered in a streak of light over the mountains at sunset... An experimental, ultrafast technology known as rocketry... I can see the details of its security classification. A classification that mandates it be protected by a group of yak warriors." It'd explain the silos, at least, assuming that's where the rocket came from in the first place.

batponies versus griffons and other ponies

Batponies? Now that's interesting. Was that from Halcyon's recollection, something Mother said, or what she was taught in school?

lacking a dirigible

Seems like Harmony tech has gotten further out of the prototype stage? Wonder how many airships of that kind are flying around at this point in time.

He thinks there's money in it. How quickly can you groom and meet me at his office to back me up?

Well that was an idea that went from planning to success slightly faster than expected...

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Maybe her design but doesn't she have her hooves full with Ironridge?

Oh boy, just who does that airship belong to?

"Nehaly," she eventually said.

Aaand there goes my red string (and a nice :facehoof: to go along with it). Really quite curious how she managed to survive the events of TOW. There are only two ways I can think of for her to have not been affected (distance or something like what happened to Crystal), but Halcyon said they're from the southern Empire and the latter seems rather resource-intensive.

She got the short end of the stick when they were handing out personalities

Now that's a peculiar phrase...

Mistvale invaded and their invasion was ultimately crushed.

That's... one way to describe it, I guess, though I have to wonder whether the major fighting (if any) came after TOW or whether it's an embellishment.

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I don't remember Nehaly very well but I remember the name, which one was she again?
The whole Mistvale invasion things screams of revisionist history... granted I'm not sure how many people would have known or even understood the truth let alone believed it.

History is written by the survivors after all.

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I can't find any mention of that name in TOW, so unless it's an assumed name we know nothing about her.

Lack of any mention of the sarosians being transformed is one rather big missing piece, though as you said it might be a bit difficult to convince other ponies that that actually happened.

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She was a minor character in the griffon lands, wasn't she?

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That name's not showing up in my search at least, and my memory isn't good enough to remember precisely who you're talking about, unfortunately :(

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don't worry, I'm probably wrong and remembering the character name from another story... I think I'm mis-remembering her as the daughter of that monk when Valey first meets when gets to the griffon lands.

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The only other characters present when she first meets Grandpapa are Dazzle and Kouskous, a pegasus and a unicorn, respectively. Were you thinking of someone else?

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probably... It's been awhile.

I find it odd that Halcyon thinks of brands as cutie marks. That's so Equestrian.

A Mistvale invasion and two gods disappearing/dying? It’s been too long, I have no idea if that happened in TOW haha.

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Funny, that. I wonder where she heard that name from.

a vintage junker dubbed the Navarre

Been around since Valey's time it seems.

"These are, in fact, ponies we have done business with before," Elise continued

Oh really? You only just now realized that? And poor Ansel.

A new member has joined the party!

and get our hooves on all sorts of tech that no amount of money can normally buy.

a convoluted, twisting cloud of thick metal rails that sparked and crackled with cold teal energy

Hrm, a Harmony extractor, and it seems that the Immortal Dream's tech hasn't become widespread between TOW and now. IIRC during TOW only Shinespark/Arambai, Dorable, andor Chauncey had the extractor tech, so it's possible that Aldebaran have some interesting connections.

cold teal energy

Wonder what the power source here is. Don't think we've seen this particular color in an extractor before?

The tech's been around for two decades or so, but it never became mainstream due to some major challenges with mass production.

Or that's a reasonable explanation, I guess. Way to rain on my speculation :fluttercry:

Major Rockbellows and the Green Menace

Kind of curious what Valey would think of this.

Icereach's official institute airship, a vintage junker dubbed the Navarre. Everyone I knew who had flown on it said it was three decades old and several technological revolutions out of date

Huh. A memento of pre-TOW times, or another sign that someone interesting is behind the scenes here?

"These are, in fact, ponies we have done business with before," Elise continued, standing at her full, petite height. "They work for Ironridge, and it is a matter of national interest that this expedition goes through in a hurried and timely manner. As such, I am coming with you."

Well, that's quite a surprise, especially given Elise's high rank in Icereach. Something even she wasn't aware of, something she forgot, or something else? Kind of surprised she didn't go find Halcyon/Corsica as soon as she found out how important this is, either.

Lots of sketchy stuff going on. An opportunity with timing that's just good to be true for Corsica/Halcyon, the redacted law... Ansel certainly has good reason to be unsettled.

I'm a bit concerned that that isn't Elise. That 180 is VERY abrupt and pretty suspect.

I had remembered the numbers, but 6.7 was the rule that applied to Corsica, not to me. Hers wasn't classified. Elise had explained it in the letter. And, as Corsica had pointed out in the library, Elise seemed to have been familiar enough with the censored rule that she had it on her mind before doing any legal research, indicating its number wasn't one she was likely to forget.

Maybe, somehow, this was an innocent mistake, but... as much as I trusted the Aldebaran ponies, something was badly up with Elise.

"She may have dug her own grave, but you gave her the shovel."

Doppelganger talent huh...

Number 5 is Jamjar's, calling it now.
And she's in that room, just invisible.

What if that isn't really Elise?

How can a pony not be themselves?

Hmmm... Very interesting implication here. I'm a little surprised Ansel knows, since he was born in Icereach, but I suppose he could have been filled in easily enough. Also makes me wonder how much Halcyon remembers of her time in the Empire; I wouldn't be surprised if she was too young to remember, but maybe there's the chance she had first-hand (hoof?) experience.

Still wonder how Mother/Halcyon survived, but I suppose we'll learn that later.

I had remembered the numbers, but 6.7 was the rule that applied to Corsica, not to me. Hers wasn't classified.

Yeah, this is super sketchy. Could be played off as a mistake, but that doesn't appear to be characteristic for Elise.

Just try to, like, roll with the decor

Oh no

It might be a bit eccentric

Oh no no no

courtesy of a huge number of posters covering the walls, ceiling and every available surface. And every single poster was about mares.

...What in the world is Jamjars doing here?

And there are urban legends, of course, about mysterious disappearances and monsters and something to do with a black meteor.

Huh. Did the original bat ponies get forced out or otherwise leave? Or did they simply not pass on their history? Or is sixty years longer than I think it is?

It was, in the words of an old friend of mine, a frankly horrid place that nobody should ever go.

This is very interesting. Felicity says precisely that phrase in TOW, and her, Senescey, Larceny, Maple, Valey, and Starlight appear to be the only ones in the room at the time.

Lief's views sound vaguely familiar, but I can't remember if I've seen them before in TOW.

Father's mistress has literally everything that's here.

...Boy, it'd be quite something if that turned out to be Jamjars.

Time to get this strange job over with and hopefully return to our normal lives.

You had to say it, didn't you...

Quite a few more hints here. The mystery grows....

Yup, between the posters, perfume and description, that's totally Jamjars... or maybe Puddles?

Also locking the fake Elise up in the ship under guard... Lets file that under "sounds good but totally going to backfire"

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From what I recall, Leif's views are quite similar to those of Larceny, Felicity, and Senescey (or, if I'm misremembering the names, the prostitute/assassin batpony sisters). Although I know some of them died...

Eh, I'll just throw this out there: Elise is actually Valey, who has discovered and developed her latent shape-shifting powers. She's there to investigate Jamjar's highly-suspicious involvement in Icereach (they aren't on the best of terms). The Aldebarans have no idea about any of this.

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Hmmm... yet another interesting link then. You got the names right, and we know that Senescey’s cutie mark/soul returned to the lifestream, but Larceny and Felicity’s ultimate fates are still unknown, though I’d guess Felicity would still be in Equestria.

Wonder where that particular hint is leading.

Oh god, oh no, oh why. Don’t do this to me. I thought I was finally rid of that little devil. Please...

Next chapter two days late… withdrawal begins…
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So, unfortunately, this is the part of the story where I start to run out of buffered material and have to start slowing things down. I initially had this plus two more chapters pre-written, and was expecting to get two or three more done during the catch-up publication period, but what essentially happened is that live comments are just too much of a muse to ignore while posting everything as-is. The earliest chapters, I had just been giving once-over editing passes. Starting with chapter 4, I was changing the ways certain characters reacted to things, and then the decisions they made, and more and more in order to fine-tune the story for what people were interested in, what people picked up, and what no one seemed to notice. This chapter was a week late because I wound up completely writing the second half of it and adding that in from scratch. The next two chapters won't be any better. Fortunately, I think these chapters have all been much better for their changes, so at least it's counting for something worthwhile.

I'll see if I can do an every-other-week schedule at least for the time being, but for all intents and purposes, chapters will be posted when they're ready from here on out.

Four rings of metal, the center two wider than the ones at the ends, hung above the Aldebaran, and the clouds drove directly down and in through the front, running the length of the ship through each ring in turn.

That's a pretty cool concept! Quite different from what I had expected when I learned there was a harmony extractor on board. Wonder how the technical side differs from the Immortal Dream's.

Some windigo hints there. It'd be interesting if that were a product of using windigo hearts more directly as fuel as opposed to more as fuel tanks.

"It was an experience that makes you glad you have a Whitewing."

I'm not sure whether I should be more worried that Whitewings are that combat-capable, or that Aldebaran are downplaying their own combat prowess...

Our most recent contract involves the incitement of a revolution in Icereach, overturning the existing leadership with a new guard.

Suppose that makes sense, given the hints Leif was dropping earlier.

The Whitewing has nothing to do with Icereach.

What about the inertial stabilizer rotor?

Hacking this security would have been as simple as taking off the side panel and swapping in a card with a scan of your own horn.

Wonder how they managed to get a horn scan from Corsica.

It came back with a few hairs of yellow fur.

Yellow fur, yellow fur...

A quick search through TOW yields the following yellow ponies:

  • Amber
  • Arambai
  • Sand Stream
  • Unnamed (?) Karma Industries receptionist
  • Gigavolt
  • Jamjars
  • Kouskous (described as "brownish-yellow")
  • Puddles
  • Saffron Sunflower
  • Yulio (described as "yellow-brown")

Jamjars seems like the best candidate given the room on the Aldebaran. Not-Puddles might be another, if she (it?) somehow managed to find a way back into the world.

The east was brought down by shape-shifters today known as changelings. They used the element of surprise to devastating effect. We are they.

That... explains a few things (Elise, "handing out personalities"), and raises quite a few more questions. Seems like they've come quite a ways since we least saw them.

Wonder if the changelings here are capable of copying cutie mark powers, or whether they're getting them from moon glass or something similar.

and just like that, Halcyon knows what she is...

Oh my god oh my god oh my god. This story is pushing all the right buttons for me... And Changelings! Aaahh! No wonder Rondo had to enter last. I imagine Halycon’s friends are going crazy looking for her, since she disappeared without warning. I wonder if this terminal has access to the outside world, and if they can somehow get a message to Icereach? And what does Nemestasis mean? Is there literally a chamber where some being is being held in stasis ( a “nemesis”?) or is it just referring to hiding in a bunker as something akin stasis? There has to be more to it than the latter explanation. I can’t wait to find out more!

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Not-Puddles

You mean Cuddles? I was kind of hoping that this was a new storage facility for her. So the impersonator for Jamjars was probably Elise's replacement... Although that begs the question why all the stuff? Was the ship the successor to the Dream and Jamjars allowed to hang around? After the stunt she pulled with the writ I would have figured she would have just been dumped back with her mom and left to her own devices.

Each answer brings more questions.

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Yeah, I was referring to Cuddles.

I honestly hadn’t thought of Jamjars being impersonated. As you said, the room decor might be a bit much, though it might arguably be “method acting”, for lack of a better phrase (though I’m not sure when the difference would be observable). Makes me wonder just how “deep” changeling copying goes; is it more like a “kit” of quirks/personalities/abilities the changeling can use, or do they more “become” the target?

Jamjars has proven resourceful in her own way, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she were to wander off again if she were returned home. Not sure how she would have ended up with Aldebaran, though, or if she is aware of their true natures.

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