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JawJoe


I am a mighty thesaurus. Rawr!

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After an enlightening discussion with Ember, Thorax springs to action to unify the changeling race. One particularly tense encounter with a group of renegades later, Thorax returns to Ponyville to discuss current events with Spike... and he has a couple of burning questions for the young dragon.

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Hey, I killed someone for stepping out of line and I'm not allowing anyone in who looks like they belong in the old regime, and I'm not allowing any reminders of that! Am I a bad guy

This story is beautiful. Also, I just have to say this: naming an insectoid being 'Thorax' is like calling a human 'Torso' or a pony 'Barrel'.

It's weird to hear Thorax talking about Starlight like he doesn't know her when they are supposed to be close friends after said overthrow of Chrysalis.

Of course the entire conversation doesn't seem like one either character would have, but then that's sort of the point of the story.

TL;DR

it's ok to bash the head in of anyone who disagrees with you

Oh, hey you actually wrote a fic! And it's a beaut.

How do I know this story won't die after only one chapter?

BUT YOU SAID MONSTERS WAS YOUR LAST STORY JAWJOE WHUT ARE YOU DOIN

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Don't think about it too hard.

I know I'm not.

This is amazing.

Yeah, it's not like getting attacked by some conquering would-be villain without any warning or reason other than they want to enslave and/or eat you is a justification to fight back at some point.^^

Twice, in Chrysalis' case.

But hey, the map willed it. Even though it actually didn't.

"Everywhere."

"You know when sand gets in your bags and it's still there weeks later after cleaning it? It was like that".

Fucking

yes. YESSSS

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Nah, Jawjoe tends to finish what he starts. For all I know, it's already done or something.

BECAUSE HE DIDN'T EVEN TELL ME HE WAS WRITING A STORY.

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Jawjoe tends to finish what he starts.

Ahem.

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I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

"Her struggles"

I see what you did there.

Shhh Thorax . . . just have a cupcake.

You'll feel better.

"Or, on the other claw, you defeated an Extremely Evil Villain who openly wanted to oppress every other species for no reason, and then started taking steps to eliminate the remnants of her influence. I mean, it's not like the unreformed Changelings are going to wait you out, then start putting up statues to Chrysalis and claiming that her evil was really a noble 'Lost Cause' about Changeling autonomy, forcing later generations to fight to take the statues back down and correct the record, or anything like that, right?"

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"Abducting and cocooning ponies to drain them of love while impersonating them to all their friends and family is our HERITAGE!"

Okay, so I wrote this thing in like 20 minutes tops and published it before going to bed. I literally did not give one single fuck during the whole process and honestly I'm half-surprised now that I didn't actually dream it.

How the fuck is this in the Featured Box.

What are you guys doing.

Don't stop.

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This comment is going to give me nightmares.

Well, when you put it like that...

D48

Ah, this was fun, although I think it needs a comedy tag because this is definitely dark comedy in my book.

"I just think it's weird," Thorax said, "how our group of friends keeps overthrowing governments and installing new leaders without any sort of electoral process or even just cursorily asking the opinion of the masses. That's how we get these awkward situations in the first place." Thorax turned the bottom of a hoof towards himself, morphing it briefly to resemble the paw of a bear. He stared at it for perhaps a moment too long, shuddered, then shook his head and put his paw-hoof back down. "We're pretty much playing with the lives of literally entire kingdoms and empires and we never quite reflect on it."

Something something NOT SOME FARCICAL AQUATIC CEREMONY!
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:rainbowlaugh::rainbowlaugh::rainbowlaugh: I blame the Dragon media! You see, they live a long time, so they keep remembering what we were actually like and reminding everypony!

"I just think it's weird," Thorax said, "how our group of friends keeps overthrowing governments and installing new leaders without any sort of electoral process or even just cursorily asking the opinion of the masses. That's how we get these awkward situations in the first place." Thorax turned the bottom of a hoof towards himself, morphing it briefly to resemble the paw of a bear. He stared at it for perhaps a moment too long, shuddered, then shook his head and put his paw-hoof back down. "We're pretty much playing with the lives of literally entire kingdoms and empires and we never quite reflect on it."

I'm with Thorax here.

Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to Thorax?:pinkiecrazy:
Good job!:moustache:

No questions!

So the map is some kind of god now? even the sisters are under it? or just an excuse?

But you know, what with her publishing her 'friendship diary' about 'her struggles' not long ago and all...

Sounds better in the original Germane.

D48

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Now? You make it sound like that wasn't always the case. :derpytongue2:

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It never was so explicit like in this fic... this made me rethink a lot of things in the show...

Wow, I hope Thorax doesn't turn out like the typical evil king from Crusader Kings 2.

Thorax: Are you sure we aren't the baddies? I mean, look at Equestria's new flag (points to a flag with a skull on it). I mean, not many good things are connected with skulls.

Spike: ...pure pony skull shape?

Thorax: (dryly) yes, I'm sure that what that means. I just can't think of anything worse than a skull?

Spike: A rat's anus?

Thorax: Yes, if the country had the Crystal Anus I'd be worried.

Interesting.... from the title, description, and comments I'm certain this is actually based on one of my favorite comedy skits which means this story demands my attention. I'm also surprised no one else has made note of it.
Edit: Just noticed the comment before this one

what is that disgusting looking cereature on the thumbmail? looks horrid

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Thats Spike.

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no not the butler who hasnt really done anyting so far inm the series other thank causing trouble i mean the big green abomination of nature and everything even remotely good looking

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Ahh, that is cancer incarnate (A.K.A. Thorax)

8379413 Also, no lawyers. That's why Equestria is such a utopia.

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Well, pony cities are literally horse puns....

Seems legit

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they do have taxes tho.

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We're all like that at one point or another.

Also, I've been seeing you EVERYWHERE lately. I used to be TeknoLogik. You supported my stories before. Good to see you're still active on this site.

Good and evil are relative. We only stay on the side of the pony girls because they are cute anyway.

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The Griffon Kingdom looks to be about the size of an impoverished small town. And changelings weren't considered people until the MLP staff decided to try and sell a half baked moral about racism despite it being a bout a completely different species.

And also, King Sombra seemed to me as someone that the people were extremely afraid of and King treated his subjects more like resources to be spent for his whims rather than Ponies that are supposed to be under his protection and leadership.

There is also, the mater of dong terrible things to terrible people not really counting because all your doing is giving them their own medicine. Or that is the mindset of Americans.

Anyway. Yes, the MLP Mane-Six and Starlight can be seen as villains to the guys we call villains. Our Freedom Fighters are Your Terrorists and all.

In the end victory isn't about good and evil but survival and prosperity. As long as you can achieve Survival and Prosperity everything else is game.

If the point of this fanfic is to point out we should be rooting for the Empire and the fact that we are evil because we are winning. Then sorry I feel that you are just trying to get us against everyone.

In the end, think on who you would rather sleep with and take that side.

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And there lies my point!

I am amazed no one posted this, and am now obligated to.

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There is the matter of perspective sure; and would even argue that good and evil don't really exist, just as I don't think there is an over arching morality that exists outside of human social structure.

However, we create morals by constancy. For example, I don't steal things, because I want the right to own things. If I did steal things I would be violating my own right to own things. If I expect to live, then I shouldn't go around killing people.

This is just my personal take on morality, but it does break down individual actions into justified or unjustified actions based on personal moral codes. For example, if chrysalis believes that she deserves to live, but kills other ponies, never expecting them to fight back, she would be a hypocrite. However, if she believes anyone is justified in trying to kill her back, then she is morally in the right to do that.

When two individuals with different moral codes clash, then they are justified in doing anything that aligned with their code, including opposing threats that defy their morals. In fact they would perhaps be obligated to fight individuals that opposed their code.

if both parties are morally consistent then the winner is neither in the right or the wrong, they are just the winner.

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Which is also an important point.

8378178 Humans have a thorax too. And a larynx, which I think was one of the other changelings. If I ever write a changeling fic, they'll all have names like bulbospongiosus, rectum, or gluteus maximus. Or spleen. He'll be the odd kid out.

Interesting question. Here's a way to help settle the ethical and moral dilemma:
When someone or something attacks a peaceful nation, and is whacked upside the head for doing that, it can legitimately be called "self defense." That covers Tirek, Chrysalis, Sombra, etc.

Griffonstone's and Yakyakistan's sufferings were self-inflicted. You can't do much for people who've embraced a toxic culture.

What Starlight Glimmer did is on her and only her. Personally, I suspect she should be taking a time-out in Tartarus now.

Thorax, as depicted above, is being a tyrant. It costs him nothing to leave the holdout changelings free and hive-less to starve if that's what they want. He could have used nonlethal force if force was necessary, but no, he jumped right to the "killing people" solution. In canon, Ember told him to "change into a bear" to make his point, so it's fairly likely that Ember also harms or kills people who disobey her.

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