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q97randomguy
I sometimes write but mostly edit. I'm also a PR for The Royal Guard.
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Interesting, dood. Kinda wish Twilight made better use of that spell, like the Princess of Love gave you a GIFT, you don't please yourself while she watches. She make her ride it out, dood.
Maybe it's finicky, but I saw you submit this to the Good Grammar Directory and you misspelled a canon name:
The musical configuration is spelled cadence, but the canon character's name is Cadance. Easy to miss if you've never been told otherwise.
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I have heard that, but I disregard it for two important reasons.
Reason one: In English, there's no way it could be pronounced correctly if spelled the other way; it would end up pronounced kā-dän(t)s instead of kā-dən(t)s. The central A vowel is one that cannot be unstressed. It has to be pronounced. It can't reduce to a schwa, and English can't have stressed syllables next to each other, but "Cadance" would have two stressed vowels. The first e in "Cadence," though, can reduce to a schwa. Further, Hasbro hasn't even been entirely consistent with its spelling of her name, and I believe that the false spelling is likely due to people in the company not knowing any better.
Reason 2: I wrote this story as a birthday present for a friend, and he and I agree with the above reasoning. I thought that using the less logically sound spelling would have reduced his enjoyment of the story.
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Was not expecting such a sophisticated response.
Fair enough.
I will disagree on that it's impossible to pronounce Cadance as you would pronounce Cadence, as English always has exceptional grammar rules. The word reliance isn't rely-unts, it's rely-ints. I'm aware that this is following a vowel, but names definitely don't follow typical grammar rules, and those are relaxed in the case of proper nouns. After all, it's someone's name; who are we to say they're mispronouncing it?
My last name, for example, is Styczinski. How would you pronounce that? It's Stuh-Zin-Skee. The C is silent. Does that follow typical English rules? I think not. Yet, my name is still my name, so you can't apply grammar to names and say, "This is wrong." Trying to pronounce the word "cadance" like "cadence" following set grammar rules is impossible, seeing as the word "cadance" doesn't exist; therefore, the made-up name follows special grammar rules that do not follow established rules.
That being said, you are 100% correct in that Hasbro itself has been inconsistent in their own spelling of Cadance/Cadence's name. If it also detracts from your reading experience as well as your friend's reading experience, I can see your reasons for keeping the spelling as the musical arrangement. The #1 most important part of a story is making sure it reads like it's supposed to, and I can definitely see your reasons for maintaining the stance you have in the case of the name you gave her.
And here I was, thinking I was being helpful.
Meh, I just zoomed through the whole thing, I liked it.
This, sir, was an excellent birthday present. I thank you immensely.
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You are very welcome, and I'm glad you liked it.
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Plus it's rather silly to call her Cad-a-nce (a nickname) when her real name is Cad-e-nza. Not to mention Cadenza even translates directly to Cadence, as well. Cadance is nonsensical in the face of that, since it doesn't even follow the nickname shift dynamic of Richard = Dick and such. Her name also matches up with Celestia and Luna's own naming convention (minus the heavenly body factor) of tracing her name back to Latin as an actual word.
In the face of that, I feel she was always meant to be named Cadence, and was originally, since Cadance makes no sense and no one seems to pronounce Cadance differently than Cadence anyway. It feels like an arbitrary change that should probably be ignored.
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I didn't even think of her name translation; Cadance/Cadence is, in fact, a nickname of her real name of Cadenza. It would stand to reason that the translation be the name she want to go by.
Huh... that is a very valid point.
It looks like there was confusion among the ranks at Hasbro to begin with. A quick check shows that some of the earlier credits used Cadence, whereas the more recent credits use Cadance. It looks like they didn't know their own character's name at first, then, when they realized, they picked the misspelled one to make it seem more... I dunno, authentic?
If you write the fic around the same time that the Crystal Empire episodes happened, then Cadence is the correct spelling according to the credits, but every instance of her name in any official documentation thereafter is firmly Cadance. Silly Hasbro can't make things easy for us.
I will agree that Cadenza -> Cadence makes a boatload of sense. The only real defense that the oddly spelled nickname has is "because names." Granted that there are next to no grammar rules surrounding proper nouns, but it's like they took a misspelling and latched onto it for no good reason other than to cause fandom disputes.
The Pinkie-in-the-head bit had me rolling.
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I'm glad you liked that! I had fun writing it.
(And, if I may say so, I appreciate that you know how to hyphenate.)
can we get a sequel?
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Possibly. I'm considering things for it, but I have a lot of projects and college to consider. I'm flattered that you found my story good enough to want one, though.
Love it
Sequel please once you got the time
5433773 im a big fan of TwiDance couple.... im writting one myself
Maybe it's because my view of death is different from yours (due to cultural/religious upbringing) but I couldn't help but think you were kind of overplaying the whole grief and pain of loss that Twilight and Cadance went through.
You made it seem like they were borderline suicidal after Shining's death. I could understand to a small degree if it was just Cadance but why was Twilight that badly effected? You even implied that Twilight had an episode when her parents died.
I just can't help but feel that Twilight should've had enough time to come to terms with and accept that this would happen eventually (especially when you consider how logical she's always trying to be). Even if she wasn't an alicorn she would have still most likely outlived her brother. It just felt weird and unrealistic to me.
Sorry if any of this made me seem insensitive.
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Actually, from a certain way of looking at it, that comment made you seem rather sensitive; you admitted that a different culture or upbringing could cause different views of death.
When writing this story, I encountered the (fortunate) issue of never having experienced the death of anyone close to me — let alone someone I've loved for approximately eighty years. So, I did what any self-respecting (and more importantly, any audience-respecting) writer would do: I researched. I looked up how people deal with grief, and I talked to people who have experienced it firsthand. I even ran the finished product (well, chapters one, two, and four) past my mother, who's fifty and has gone through the loss of her father (from a heart attack) and her brother (from ALS). You mentioned having time to come to terms with what is guaranteed to happen, and my mother did for her brother — for about four years after the diagnosis, she knew her brother would die soon. Maybe it helped, but it certainly didn't negate the sadness.
And don't forget, this story starts only a few days after Shining died. Even if the wounds heal quickly, not even a week has passed by the end of the story.
Yea I can definitely see a small difference in upbringing. I have unfortunately experienced a few deaths (both family and close friends) through out my life. As a child I was taught that death while sad wasn't a 'goodbye' thing but more of a 'I'll see you again' type thing.
It's kind of like having a very close family member (or family friend) visit for a few weeks only to have them go back home at the end of the visit. You know that they are going to leave and are sad to see them go when they do, but you also know that you will see them again someday.
That's how I was raised to see death has. That was why I found it weird that Cadance and Twilight were experiencing 'that' much grief. I'm not saying it's wrong, just different from my views. It was weird. Not bad just weird.
...Then again Cadance and Twilight are basically immortal so I guess the whole 'see you again' thing probably wont happen. In that case them being this broken over Shining's death would make more sense.
The fic is really good though. 5 out of 5.
5455110 That's how I was raised as well, though as you say, immortality wrecks that for these ladies.
Then story flows really well, and you have a knack for sufficient description.
So what cadence was sensing was the passion of dedicated friendship? Cool.
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Yup! And thanks for your kind words. I really appreciate them!
No doubt, with the power of Celestia, Luna, Twilight, and even Cadence, they could have given Shining eternal life.
Am I right? C'mon. Godly figures with near infinite magical ability? Very possible mate!
Still....good story, I guess.
I considered throwing myself off the balcony, but then I just broke down into tears when that reminded me of him.
I like the story, but does everyone have to reference that part of episode when it comes to Shining and Cadence?
It needs to be Son, Brother, Husband, Father, Friend, and Captain Of The Royal Guard
Or somethong like that.