Chapter 1
"Now come on big brother, I said you should look nice," said Applejack.
"I tried that already," Big Macintosh said. He was obviously unhappy.
"Well you looked too nice. We can't go looking like we just walked out one of them wedding catalogues. But now you just look like you came from working on the farm. Now go back and fix yourself up some more."
"A.J...." said Big Mac, rolling his eyes.
Applejack sighed. "Am I gonna have to fix you up myself? Look at me, I look nice don't I?"
Big Mac looked her up and down.
"Yep."
"But I don't look too fancy?"
"Nope."
"Then off you go. You're a big boy, you can clean yourself up." She smiled.
Big Mac smiled himself before going back to his room.
It would be his fourth try. First he didn't do anything, he just walked straight from the farm and said he was ready. But Applejack wasn't going to allow him to do that, and she sent him off to get cleaned up. He came back looking like he was ready to go to one of them fancy parties Rarity always talked about. Applejack didn't even know he had duds as spiffy as that. When he came back again he didn't look much different than he normally did. He just wasn't filthy. To be honest, that was better, but Applejack wanted this to be special. His average look just wasn't going to cut it.
Finally his door opened and he walked back out. Applejack looked him over.
The first thing Applejack noticed was he wasn't wearing anything silly. He also didn't have his usual piece of straw in his mouth. His tail was brushed, and there weren't any stupid things like mousse in his mane.
"It'll do," said Applejack, pleased. They walked down together and had just opened the door to leave when Apple Bloom bounced out of the kitchen.
"Where're y'all going?" she asked, looking at Applejack and Big Mac in turn."Can I come?" She tilted her head in confusion.
"Why're y'all looking so fancy?"
Applejack's eyes widened for a moment. Awkwardly she glanced at Big Mac, and then to Apple Bloom.
"What do you mean?" she asked.
"Well you hardly ever braid your tail or mane. And Big Mac looks pretty cleaned up too. You two going to some party?" She suddenly looked excited. "Can I come?" she asked again. Her eyes grew big. She was obviously trying to butter Applejack up. But it wasn't going to help this time.
"Sorry Apple Bloom, we're not going to a party, and you can't come."
"Aww, but why not?"
Applejack chuckled. "Don't you worry about it none sugarcube. Trust me, you wouldn't find it interesting anyway." Applejack heard Big Mac snort at that. "Now go on back to the kitchen and help Granny Smith with supper."
"Does Granny know you'll be gone?"
"Of course she does," said Big Mac. "Told her a few days ago we wouldn't be around for supper today."
Applejack leaned down and nuzzled Apple Bloom for a moment. "We'll get back past your bedtime Apple Bloom, just so you know."
Applejack motioned for them to go.
Apple Bloom just kicked at the ground and grumbled, "I never get to do anything." Applejack smiled. Apple Bloom would have an easier time than Applejack did, when it came to this sort of thing.
The walk into town was silent. As they got closer, Applejack felt more and more nervous. But she'd wanted to do this, and she wanted it badly. There was no way she was going to get cold hooves now.
Finally they'd arrived.
Sturdy Oak's restaurant was just on the edge of Ponyville, and was pretty popular with all the ponies in Ponyville. Applejack looked around and saw groups of all kinds. Other couples out on dates, groups of friends, a few ponies who looked to be just having a fun outing with family...it was why Applejack had chosen this place. They wouldn't look odd at all, just a brother and a sister spending some time together than wasn't home and work for once.
"Just the two of you?"
Applejack's focus snapped back to what was in front of her and she saw an Earth Pony, obviously a waitress, looking at them expectantly.
Applejack smiled nervously. "Yep, just the two of us."
The waitress nodded and led them to an empty table at the edge of the room.
They sat down across from each other before the waitress said, "My name's Soup Spoon, and I'll be your server today." She smiled at them. "So what will you two lovebirds have to drink?"
Applejack had to physically restrain herself from gasping. She suddenly felt like she couldn't breathe. She tried to deny it but words didn't seem to be forming proper and she ended up just mumbling noises.
Big Mac chuckled, looking nervous. "We're brother and sister," he said to Soup Spoon. "And we'll both just have water."
Applejack tried to nod, but her neck wasn't working either.
"Oh, my mistake," said the waitress. "Two waters? Easy. Okay, menus are to your right, and I'll be back with the waters and to take your orders in a minute."
It wasn't until she had trotted off before Applejack could move again.
"You sure are nervous A.J." said Big Mac. "You do remember this was your idea right?"
Applejack rubbed her temples with her hooves for a moment, trying to clear her head.
"Don't act like you didn't want to do this too," she said, putting her hooves back down. "We both wanted to get out for once and do something like a normal couple."
"Yep," said Big Mac. "But I'm not the one who insisted on looking out of the ordinary."
Applejack scoffed. "There's nothing wrong with trying to make this a little special. Even if we were just coming out here as family, dressing up a bit is nothing weird." She glanced around at the other ponies for a moment. "Is it?" She looked worryingly at Big Mac.
"Well uh....I don't know."
"Here's your waters!" said Soup Spoon brightly. Applejack didn't know how she kept popping up without being seen. "Now, what can I get you?" She pulled small notebook out and set it on the table, before taking a pencil in her mouth to write.
They hadn't even opened a menu.
"Can we have a bit more time?" asked Applejack. As quick as a flash, the pony had put the pencil and notebook away.
"Sure can!" she said. "Take all the time you need. I'll be back in a bit, or wave me down if you're ready sooner." With that, she walked off again to assist some other table.
Quietly, Applejack and Big Mac took a menu from their place at the side of the table, and opened them. Honestly Applejack had no idea what sort of food was here. She just knew this wasn't a particularly fancy place, and there wasn't anything strange about simple family coming here.
A few moments passed in silence.
"These hay fries with cheese sound good," said Big Mac. "As an appetizer."
Applejack looked at the item, and then looked up at her brother.
"Wouldn't that look a bit strange, us sharing them when we're not supposed to be on a date?"
Big Mac shrugged. "Probably not."
"Well, let's not chance it. No appetizers."
Big Mac sighed, but nodded.
Returning to her menu, Applejack tried to decide what to get. Would it matter how expensive it was? Did ponies spend more on dates? Would that give them away? What if they ordered the same thing? Was she just being paranoid?
Applejack closed her eyes tightly for a moment. She was being silly.
Finally Applejack settled on a simple salad, and put her menu down.
That darn Soup Spoon was staring right at her when she looked up.
"All done?" she asked.
"Uh, yeah," said Applejack. She said her order and watched the pony take it down.
Soup Spoon put her pencil down and looked at Big Mac.
"And for you, handsome?" Applejack scowled as she watched the waitress flutter her eyelashes at Big Mac.
His face was impassive as he said, "I'll just have the roasted carrots, and a side of sliced apples."
She took that down and then gently brushed his hoof with hers as she said, "I'll have that right out for you." She didn't even look at Applejack.
As soon as she was out of earshot Applejack said, "darn hussy."
Big Mac chuckled.
"Don't you worry about it, A.J. you know I'd never fall for another filly."
Applejack felt herself blush.
"It's nice to hear you say that Big Mac," she said. "I wish I could hear things like it more often."
There was concern on Big Mac's face.
"It's not that I don't think things like that A.J. it's just-"
Applejack cut him off. "I know, I know. When we're together we're always busy, or other ponies are around, or something happens so we can't be off by ourselves for long. I was just saying is all, I don't blame you or anything. Not a lot of opportunities for sweet nothings when you're dating your...."
Applejack didn't finish that sentence because, finally, she saw the waitress coming.
Applejack tried to appear normal as Soup Spoon but their food in front of them.
"Now if there's anything else you need," she began, looking right at Big Macintosh, "don't hesitate to tell me."
She trotted off, looking mighty pleased with herself, and Applejack had to bite down hard to prevent herself from saying something.
"Don't let it get to you A.J." said Big Mac.
Applejack said nothing as she started on her meal. It was hard sometimes, being together with her brother. Actually, it was hard a lot of the time.
Applejack stopped eating. She could tell her eyes were watering up. She looked up at Big Mac, who saw her and stopped eating his own meal once his eyes met hers. He had such nice green eyes. They were just barely darker than her own. She suddenly wondered what he thought of hers.
"Don't worry A.J, everything's all right." There was concern in his voice. Applejack blinked to try and dry her eyes a bit.
"I know," she began. "It's just I worked so hard to set this night up for us, you know? And here we are, finally, and all I can think about is our problems. I just want to go out on a date like a normal couple. Like normal ponies. I want to be normal." She emphasised each word of that last sentence.
Big Macintosh smiled suddenly. Then snorted. Then laughed. And he kept laughing.
Applejack was feeling worse and worse as he kept going. Her ears dropped, and she could feel her eyes getting all watery again.
Finally, seeing how she was reacting he stopped. He gave her a sad smile.
"Sorry sis," he said. "I couldn't help it. Part of it was the way you said it but also...." He grinned for a moment. "It ain't normal for ponies to date their siblings."
"Thanks, that makes me feel loads better." She tried to be angry at him but she couldn't bring herself to. Maybe if he'd said that a couple of months back when they first started dating it'd have bothered her. Back then, she had all sorts of concerns about their relationship, especially since she was the one to make the first move. She wondered if there was something wrong with her, if maybe she was just latching on to her brother as a strange way to get a new father-figure, or if it was just that she hadn't had much success with attracting colts and was just desperate to find somepony in her life. She'd settled those issues a while ago. She just loved him. It no longer mattered to her to know why.
She looked back down at her plate. This date wasn't going well, and suddenly she didn't feel very hungry.
"I was thinking A.J." said Big Mac. Applejack's head snapped back up at her brother's words. "Maybe we could find a way to get a whole day off together. Maybe two. We could go someplace else, visit a different town, have a date there. Someplace where nopony knows who we are."
"We could kiss in public," said Applejack. She smiled at the thought. "I could nuzzle you without worrying about how long I was doing it. We could be...."
"Normal," finished Big Mac.
Applejack's spirits lifted just at the idea of it. It'd be tough going, but if they worked real hard they might be able to afford to take a whole day or two off.
"We'll have to find a way to make it happen Big Mac," she said finally, before going back to her food.
The rest of the meal went by well enough. Mostly Applejack just talked about her friends and all the interesting things that were going on with them. Big Mac listened attentively to her prattle on. Somewhere in the midst of it all, she realised how happy she was to be here. Even if it wasn't perfect and she still had to be careful.
Finally, they were done. Soup Spoon came back to drop off the cheque, but of course couldn't keep herself from making eyes at Big Mac again. Then she did something that Applejack couldn't allow.
As she took their money and cleared away their used plates, she leaned on the table towards Big Mac.
"Say, how'd you like to go out sometime? You look like a pretty fun colt. Handsome too." She smiled and fluttered those darn eyelashes of hers again. Applejack could see Big Mac swallow hard.
Applejack stood up so hard she knocked the stool she was sitting on back. The noise it made shocked Soup Spoon into looking in her direction.
"Now you listen here missy!" she said without thinking. "My brother's not interested! He's taken, and no airheaded filly like you is gonna take him away from m-"
Finally she realised what she was saying and stopped.
Big Mac's eyes were wide as saucers as he stared at her. Applejack looked around. Everypony was staring.
Oh no, Applejack thought. Did they know what she was about to say?
Soup Spoon just rolled her eyes.
"Pfft, fine, no need to make a scene. I don't see why he couldn't have told me himself though."
Soup Spoon turned back to Big Mac, who was sitting as still as a statue. "That's one over-protective sister you got there," she said. "Anyway, if you ever break up with whoever you're seeing, I'll be here."
Applejack watched as she finally went away. Silently her and Big Mac left the restaurant, mindful of the glances they were getting.
They were well on their way back to the farm before anypony spoke again.
"We ain't never gonna go back there again," said Applejack.
"Yep," said Big Mac.
Granny Smith and Apple Bloom were asleep by the time they got back. They paused at Big Mac's door. She looked around real quick to make extra sure nopony was awake.
She kissed him. She wanted desperately to follow him into his room, to just be able to kiss and cuddle together for a night. But that wasn't possible.
It took some inner struggling, but finally she broke away. Big Mac smiled down at her before she went on to her own door across the hall. She paused and looked at Big Mac once more.
"Good night," she said, voice low. "I love you."
Big Mac opened his door. "I love you too."
Entering her room she didn't bother to turn a light on before sitting on her bed. She took a moment to undo her braids.
She smiled to herself. It hadn't been a bad date at all. Even with the annoying waitress, it'd been fun. And if they could visit another town one day, it'd be even better.
The next day was just a normal day. Apple Bloom wanted to know where they'd been, but Applejack assured her it wasn't important. Granny Smith seemed to have forgotten they'd been anywhere at all.
Halfway through the workday, Rainbow Dash stopped by. Applejack was always pleased to have a friend over for company. Rainbow Dash especially was normally too busy to see her, but they always had fun when she did show up for a visit.
"Hey Applejack, how's it going?" she said. Applejack picked up an apple off the ground and dropped it into her basket.
"Just working, you know, the usual."
Rainbow Dash grinned as if thinking about a joke.
"I heard you caused a scene last night at Sturdy Oak's! Man I wish I'd have been there to see it!" She gave a good laugh before continuing. "Say, I didn't know your brother was seeing anyone. Who is it?"
Applejack stopped what she was doing. She could feel herself begin to panic. But suddenly, it was gone, and she was calm again.
"It's not important," she said, trying not to lie. "Just some Earth Pony. Quite a catch if I do say so myself." She almost laughed at herself. "But he doesn't really want anypony to know about it, so I'm afraid I can't tell you."
"Aww, come on A.J. what's a little secret between friends?" She nudged Applejack on the shoulder.
"Sorry Rainbow, no can do."
"Aww man," she said, kicking to ground. "Hey, when you're done for the day, want to go over to Twilight's place? I hear she's got something cool to show us later!"
Applejack dropped a few more apples into her basket.
"Sounds fun Rainbow. I'll head on over as soon as I'm done here."
"Great! I'll see you then!" Rainbow Dash wasted no time in flying off. Applejack thought about it.
Maybe, maybe one day, she could tell her friends. Maybe one day, she could feel that they'd understand and be okay with it. Then she share her relationship with some ponies, like normal. But that day was definitely not today.
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Now this brings back memories. This is one of the first fics I read in the fandom, way way back in the early days of EqD. Back when the blogponies (Actually, it was just Seth) allowed incest.
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Oh hey Ebon Mane! Don't act like I don't remember you! I see you been kickin it since this story was new! Been keepin in real.
That was fantastic.
To be honest, I only clicked on this because you had an interesting author name, one that usually suggests good writing.
Boy, how right I was.
The prose, the elegant simplicity, the mellow and moving tone that keeps the story going to its end was all great. I'm envious of your writing style. Really I am.
Hats off to you, Fistful. You have DEFINITELY earned my like, favorite, and watch.
First off, Fistful, AppleMac is one of those ships where I cringe, tilt my head, and say, "Ohh...fine. I'm not into the ship, but I won't knock anyone that enjoys it."
Secondly, you made it plausible, which makes my head spin.
Thirdly, you made it a good read, despite my first point.
I still feel iffy on the concept of AppleMac, but it was a great read, and it deserves my upvote, and (again, despite my reservations for the ship) my fave.
One thing, though: At one point, you missed the 'L' on Bloom. I saw 'Apple Boom'. Might want to check that.
Could have been better, what with the telling and the punchline being a bit too long, but it's still very good.
It's good to know that good oldfic exists.
edit: since I might be confusing with what I mean by 'punchline', I mean that this:
could easily be truncated to something more poignant, like this:
Not bad at all, very heartwarming.
I...I'm really sorry. I have a strong negative reaction toward incest-pairings. I don't know why. It's just kind of a thing I have, I guess.
I'm sorry. I won't leave a thumbs-up or thumbs-down, since I haven't actually read it, but I thought I should just get this off my chest. Thank you.
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Probably a good idea, except I'd have to put the word "normal" in there since that's kind of the theme. I do like minimalism!
I had serious concerns as soon as I realized this story was an Applejack/Big Mac pairing, but i was pleasantly surprised. Very well written, good at drawing out emotion. As crazy as it sounds, it makes sense too (as far as why AJ would go after Mac). Superbly done.
It probably also helps a lot that it's a Teen-rated story and not Mature... let's you avoid the problems of the physical aspects of the relationship (outside of nuzzling/brief kissing)
omg awesome
very nice chhapter i hope you make a sequel
Ah I remember reading this back in the day. Still good.
Just as good as I remembered it!
I loved this, sensitive and thought provoking
Wow. Incest? I wouldn't doubt if the author itself was a bastard child from the product of inbreeding. That's disgusting, and it's right up there with zoophilia. I'm fine with sadism, but this is just unbelievably depraved. I've already thought of several delicious ways to tear humans apart piece by piece, in the most painful way possible. Just hope I never find out where anyone who writes shippings lives. You'll be surprised how thoroughly a house can be covered with the blood and entrails of one human. The Shadow of Vide has spoken.
Not into incest shipping, but this was well written for a little slice-of-life story. One typo: "Then she share her relationship with some ponies, like normal." Should be "she would", or "she could" or "she'd".
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I love it when people say "back in the day" about a show that's barely two seasons old. Sweet merciful crap, do I feel old now.
I liked this story. Please, do go on. :3 I wanna see how this develops.
1259055 Mutilation and murder are okay, but loving your sibling is bad. Seems legit.
So well written that it's not ick.
what the
not the worst out here. Definitively not the worst
i am just going to ignore the fact that they are close relatives.
4 of 6 spikes for you.
wait, 1 more for sheer creativity
that makes it 5 of 6.
1259055
Eh...okay then.
1259055
Go away. I'm not into incest, but this was beautifully written and has given me a small insight as to why and how it happens.
1259464
It repulsed me from the comment the waiter made, and just got worse from there. I couldn't read three more sentences.
1259500
And...who gives a shit? As I said, I dislike incest and am slightly uncomfortable about it, but this is a show about acceptance, love and tolerance.
So when you go commenting on something displaying just that...
1259500
Dude what is up with you? You need to calm down and like another show if you react to a story like this with threats of murder. Sheesh
1259055
While I am sure that your opinion is perfectly valid, a publication more suited to you might be the Daily Mail; perhaps you should read it instead of a bit of fan-fiction that shows its colours quite openly? To be perfectly honest, as it is you're being a bit horrid.
1259464
It repulsed me right from the comment the waiter made, and just got worse from there. I couldn't read three more sentences. For the sake of Heaven, Big Mac sounds at least six or seven years older than Applejack!! Really? They are brother and sister! That's like, zoophilia, incest and statutory rape all rolled into one!!! It's gross! You can NOT justify something like this. It doesn't anger me as much as disappoint me that people believe this is okay, even IF it's fiction. That's no excuse.
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If you don't understand my threats of murder, read my bio. I'm sure that'll do it, as if it's not obvious enough what I portray.
Awww...That's sweet.
Sad, but sweet. I dare say....sadsweet.
Very good job. Bravo.
Yeah, this's been one of my favorites since a long time ago.
Top shelf.
I hate that no one writes good romantic incest stories like these. It's all just clop, clop, clop.
No appreciation for complexity and romantic tension, man.
Anyway, I'm super glad to finally see this here on fimfic. Nice.
An excellently written and rather touching story. The examination of the romantic side of the relationship is refreshing, as has been stated, and the intense desire they have to be normal is quite poignant.
1259582
Tsk tsk. Isn't it past your bedtime somewhere in the world?
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Well, interestingly enough, and although I am ashamed to admit it, I am an American citizen... So, no it is not my bedtime, thank you.
Comment on the story:
From a writing standpoint this was a great story, it was well done and got the point across. I hope to see you make more good work like this in the future.
Comments towards psycho:
1259055
Your more disturbing than this story will ever be...
As for incest itself, the only reason we as a society hate is so damn much is because in the event that you have a hereditary genetic mutation it will be more likely to pass on to offspring and such. That and as far as I can tell most people don't usually like their family THAT much.
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Zoophilia applies if they were having sex with animals, seeing as they are the primary sentient species I see no reason for it to be considered such. Statuatory rape may or may not apply, although from what I can tell they haven't gotten to that point in the relationship in regards to the story. And as a last note upon this comment, the point of fiction is to live out fantasies, whether they have the ability to come to fruition or not.
1259582
What bio, I tried reading it but all I saw was how long you've been part of this website and when you were on last.
To wrap my point up to you, why did you even begin to read this in the first place if you don't like/ can't stand it? I'm sure you could be doing something else more productive with your time instead of threatening people with death.
~Mines5
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Fool. I came to this story expecting it to be normal, a brother treating his sister to a nice dinner because they shared such a close bond. But of course, you fools dont know the true meaning of love...
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
1262270
You're an idiot bro.
I really like how this story is written. I would like to see you continue with this.
1262270
2 things.
1. Did you even bother to read the tags?
2. I used scientific thought in my words and you throw something completely different back at me, and even then your in a self-defeating pose with that:
The story is showing that, just not in a way your willing to accept.
Use that intellect you've been given, try and think of what you just said there, and then tell me you don't have your head shoved up your butt.
1262308
Incorrect. What they are doing IS DISHONORING each other.
Leviticus 20:17 “‘If a man marries his sister,the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible.
Leviticus 20:7 “‘Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the LORD your God. 8 Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the LORD,who makes you holy.
1262360
You disgust me.
If we must have an argument about this, I would prefer to do it more privately.
There are many things I wish to say that I shall not say here.
You would do well to remember the saying "love is blind."
1262428
Shoo boy, arguing with a 16 year old. That must make you feel so good about yourself. What, does this give you a power trip or something? Picking on teenagers? I bet those nads of yours must be darn near shriveling up with all that testosterone you got pumping through you. Thank the Almighty that I'm grounded in my Christian beliefs, I might say some things I'm not supposed to. The Word of the Lord is my Truth. That's why you hate me. That's also exactly what Jesus said happens to those who follow Him.
John 15:18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me.
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I'm not doing this to feel better about myself, I just wish you wouldn't deflect my reasoning.
I'm at the point where I don't honestly know what to do with you, so as of this point I shall cease to speak further on such matters.
You don't seem to want to listen, so I won't talk.
1262270
Fuck you, okay? Who the hell do you think you are? You're the lesser here, stop acting like you're the top man. You seriously need to get a life or something instead of commenting on an amazing story calling it disgusting. How do you think the author feels? You've come out of nowhere, acting damn similar to a certain Blueblooded prince, and basically insulted everyone that liked this series.
Just above, is saw you tell someone they don't know the true meaning of love.
Incest isn't love?
Fuck you, man. Fuck you.
1262360
And, to add on, this is why I'm an atheist.
I suppose you're against homosexuality, too?
Saw tags and characters: "Nopenopenopenopenopenope...."
Saw reviews and number of thumbs up: "Hmmm...."
After reading; "Eeyup."
Stories about incest generally make me cringe. That said, you did something beautiful here. You stayed focused on the emotional aspects without clopping it, and you gave AJ legitimate, honest emotion here. You also did a nice job into delving into the societal aspects that I imagine such relationships have.
You've done well here and you should be proud. It takes skills to do this without falling one way or another off that tightrope. Well played and well done.
1262467 Thank the Almighty that I'm grounded in my Christian beliefs, I might say some things I'm not supposed to. The Word of the Lord is my Truth. That's why you hate me. That's also exactly what Jesus said happens to those who follow Him.
Yet ten hours earlier, you wrote:
I've already thought of several delicious ways to tear humans apart piece by piece, in the most painful way possible. Just hope I never find out where anyone who writes shippings lives. You'll be surprised how thoroughly a house can be covered with the blood and entrails of one human. The Shadow of Vide has spoken.
I suggest you re-read Exodus 23:1 if you are such a devout Christian. Either that, or you simply aren't a very good troll.
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“‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:24-27)
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If you look in my bio, you'll understand. I am in no way contradicting myself or providing insufficient arguments against you. I WILL refute anything that comes from the mouths of fools with the Word of the Lord.
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Okay, you have a problem with incest? According to your god, we are all related! Adam and Eve theorum, bitch!
also fuck you. http://sunrisetehvulpix.deviantart.com/journal/Sweary-rant-time-Alt-title-fuck-this-guy-326777783
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Leviticus 20:17 “‘If a man marries his sister,the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible.
1 Peter 3:10 "For, whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech."
James 3:9-12 summarizes the issue: "With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this SHOULD NOT be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water."