Beginnings are hard.
Often there is great sacrifice involved.
Could Equestria's origin have been any different?
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Oh, the questions!
When did all of this happen? Was it all in the present? Or were the two streams of events separated in time as well as space?
Who were Céline, Astrid and their mom?
Which family was real? Neither? Both? Something in between?
What word did Thorpe say? What was its purpose? What happened to the girls after he said it?
Why did he and Mrs. Thorpe suddenly act as if they had never had the girls under their care?
How does this all connect to the origins of Equestria, and the obviously "human" origin of many of the elements of its technology and culture?
5296963 Yes, you have just written out all of the questions that your story brings up, but the show MLP doesn't involve any of those things except possibly the last where you ask why does Equestria have “human” technology. I don't understand why you would create so many questions unrelated to the show and then not answer any of them.
When the book Pride and Prejudice was written into Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, it was written in such a way so that the entirety of the original book was contained within it, but it added more story to the book and more personality to its characters by including references to what could be thought of as “zombie defense force” training.
Your story is a prequel to the known story of Equestria, but you do not tie your plot into any substance of the show. It is completely detached and has no impact onto the reader's perception of the story of Equestria at all, because all of the questions you ask are isolated to this story alone. In comparison to the book above, the failure to answer any of your self made questions is as if you copied an entire book, but every couple of sentences you mention that there is a pile of scuba gear in the scene. Does the audience wonder why it's there? Yes, they do, but because it does not affect the plot, it doesn't mean anything.
As for the reasonable question of why there is “human” technology in Equestria – I interpret most of the props in the show as placed there by the writers and artists because it's a “children's” show, and the children don't want to use their imagination trying to understand how all the new devices work and that the writers and artists are too lazy to make new tech.
Personally, I consider this a mercy, because if you have ever watched any Star Trek, that show tries to pass off a hundred commonplace objects as techno super versions of the same object under a different name: “We have to utilize the maintenance panel to access the conduit that gives access to deck seven” translation - “take off the cover to this air duct that somehow leads to the seventh floor”...
Additionally, most of what I see in the show, I would not call “human” tech but “land dwelling mammal” tech, because technology is at it's core an understanding of the physics of the world then applying that understanding to get a desired result. Since the environment of Equestria and Earth are very similar in appearance, a pony device to do X is very similar to a human device to do X.
To completely jump on a new but sideways related topic, I can say that for as powerful as the ponies are with magic, their magical technology should be so rampant in abundance that MLP would look more like a magical toy store from the world of Harry Potter, but I understand that they didn't do that for the show because the show is supposed to teach the viewers how to act toward one another and why, so that much stuff flying around would take focus off of the relationships of the characters involved. I am grateful for the authors here who manage to display all of the should-be magic with realistic story, however finding an author who is both technologically/magically imaginative and socially imaginative is rare, because being imaginative in one often means being rigid in the other.
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Wow! First off I'd like to thank you for taking the time to write such a comprehensive response! It's always a great thrill to get a thoughtful comment on a story that I have written.
Responding to your comments:
My intent with this story was to explore some of the possible motivations behind the characters of Princess Celestia and Princess Luna. These are aspects of the My Little Pony canon completely ignored on the show, therefore you are quite correct in stating that it is a story disconnected from the show itself. However, the origins of the royal princesses are something in which I have always had a great deal of personal curiosity and this story is essentially an indulgence in this regards. The questions I have brought up in this story form a platform to explore these aspects that intrigue me.
Also, the story is an initial exploration on my part based on a sudden inspiration, and was not intended to be a full treatment of the subject. Perhaps I will write more of this story with time depending on my mood and that of my muse! As you state in your comment, I would then of course bind this story much more tightly into the MLP universe. Maybe someone else will want to take the scenario and contribute their own fiction moving it forward.
Regarding your final comment, I agree completely! If the MLP show was meant to be in anyway realistic, then the very presence of magic would have a huge impact on equestrian society, technology, and economics. The world of Equestria would be radically different from what is depicted. But MLP:FIM is a show designed to sell pony toys to little girls. As an author I can choose to either run with the gag, or do a complete departure to try to make the stories more realistic. Either choice is valid depending on the intent of the author.
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In western culture the concept of “god” comes with the implied meaning of creator of everything, however, many eastern religions accept that they do not know the answer to that question, so that their concept of “god” is a spirit that has learned and grown to become powerful in ways that mere mortals cannot understand. This is how I see Celestia and Luna; they have learned so much that they have found a way to become immortal and have lived so long over a time so great that no history remains of any time without them. Any other story to their past seems little more than window dressing.
I disagree with you. My Little Pony was created to sell toys to little girls; Friendship is Magic was created by Lauren Faust to be “Sailor Moon with ponies” and Sailor Moon is a 200+ chapter(not episode) show that started with a selfish brat of a girl who learned to be caring, responsible, and eventually became the protector of two planets. In both cases, the best kept secret is that the real lessons were being learned not by the characters but by the audience.
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I agree copletely with your first sentence, but in my case I certainly do not agree with your second. The past of Celestia and Luna holds a great fascination for me, and for quite a lot of others on this site with whom I've corresponded, and others still who have written amazing stories regarding their pasts. Let's agree to disagree on this point.
Friendship is Magic was indeed written by Lauren Faust to be a "Sailor Moon with Ponies", but it – like the previous generations of MLP – was paid for by Hasbro with the express purpose of selling toys to girls. And the obvious antropomorphic aspects are there because it makes the show easier to produce and easier to understand by its intended audience. This may not be glamorous, but it got Hasbro to pay the bills for Lauren and co. to produce this marvelous show so I'm not complaining.