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Contrary to popular belief zebras are not native to Equestria. Indeed only a single one has made the passage from our world to theirs, Zecora.

This is her story.


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For those playing at home, this was stated to have been Faust's headcanon.

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Well now that is very interesting.

She knew then and there, that she would walk a long, and lonely road. Alone, and without any of her fellow zebras, she would be a race of one. Yet her life would one day be full of friends, laughter, and joy.

Why does this sound like something from the start of a porno.

Is the implication Zecoras rhyming is a leftover remnant from her rap star owner?

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She claimed intent that Zecora was a regular zebra from something closer to our world until she, y'know, wasn't.

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Now that's just downright bizarre.

Well this was a fun and interesting read.

Really enjoyed how you captured the slightly above average animal intelligence while still also being ill equipped for the world she found herself in till she was helped to wake up.

Great work.

Reeeaaaly? Wow, that would have been a cool angle and totally a Faust move. Instead of G1 megan just have an above average zebra be the real Horse in Equestria. Great story all around.

As a hard-core biologist with vast knowledge so immense I could exterminate all life on the planet at a whim if I felt particularly nonplussed one day...

Zecora must grow a MUCH LARGER BRAIN for this to work! A native equine does not possess the neural architecture required for complex thought, written language, speech, and mathematics!

I DEMAND ABSOLUTE SCIENTIFIC ACCURACY FROM MY MAGICAL FANTASY WORLDS!!! :pinkiecrazy::pinkiecrazy:

The Tree of Harmony mind-controlled Zecora and turned her into its destiny slave! Yay! :yay:

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as a wise... well not really wise, person once said "its magic, i aint gotta explain shit"

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A native equine does not possess the neural architecture required for complex thought, written language, speech, and mathematics!

Actually, horses are about as intelligent as ten years old humans, and are one of the species confirmed to be sentient. Horses, like many domestic mammals, can understand speech (if exposed, to an unknown extent?), are capable of learning to count (dogs can too) and Aleksandr Nevzorov reportedly taught his horse to read and write (!?), They do understand cause and effect as well, and will get the better of you if you underestimate them. They are also impusive, emotional, schisophrenic, etc. I would like to point out that language is learned, and numbers are also language. :twistnerd: The story is still unrealistic though. :trollestia:

11288932 The 3 people who down-voted my comment either didn't read the entire thing, or else the blatant sarcasm was too complex for their tiny Earth-equine brains.

:trollestia:

11288979 I suspect you're only looking at those non-scientific stories which make all manner of false assertions about equine intellect.

They are not anywhere close to a 10-year old's intelligence. The claims they can learn to count are LONG-SINCE debunked. Actual scientific studies determined they are only able to comprehend raw quantity determinations, and only with significant variances in the quantities presented. This is on the level of human INFANTS. Most of the counting claims were deliberately manufactured, with the trainer giving subtle cues to the heavily trained animal.

Their language-comprehension skills are no better than a typical dog's. Much of what people see as 'intelligence' is actually anthropomorphic projection, misunderstanding that the horse is merely copying trained behavior, which they CAN do quite well. They are able to learn somewhat complex tasks if shown the route repeatedly, and respond well to regimentation. But, again, many dogs can do this as well. They DON'T appear to possess the ability to figure very much out on their own, however, beyond very straightforward problems. And in spite of being exceedingly curious (like cats), they don't COMPREHEND unfamiliar things and show little evidence of being able to rationalize.

They are only 'sentient' by the RE-DEFINED word as applied by animal rights activists, which muddies the meaning of the word rather terribly and makes it exceedingly difficult to discern between ACTUAL conscious self-awareness and more complex instinctive self-preservation behavior. By some measures, amoebas are 'sentient' by this modern definition.

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Confirmed to be sentient? how is that possible? I thought it wasn't measurable whether something is sentient or not

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There are criteria like awareness, self-awareness, intelligence, emotions yada yada. It is all binary actually. It is possible to find all necessary information to conclude about domestic mammals and some birds that they are sentient and I don't care to keep a set of links for this purpose, but from a story point of view, you just call humans and civilized aliens sapient to ensure you will be scientifically correct, and it is becoming the norm. Generally just not making claims that non-human species are genetically incapable of mental functions will keep you from being corrected for fun. I usually claim that mammals and birds are sentient, but there is no way to know if all would fulfill those criteria, and information about such things are not always comprehensive. Sometimes you find crows counting then pigs misleading each other etc. so info about only one species is hard to find when it comes to online discussion.

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I did find these as counterpoints by simply a quick search, but nothing about horses counting other than being able to differentiaite between numbers (or quantities?) of apples. Of course I won't write an essay for the sake of random discussion, and I dread turning it into an actual serious debate considering where we are (and I will absolutely not make it my mission to win this debate), but here:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/animals-can-count-and-use-zero-how-far-does-their-number-sense-go-20210809/
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/phpr.12455

Now, linguistics, well... I did say they can understand language to an unkown extent and stand by it, and will still make no claim as to their extent of capability of learning. I won't post anecdotal evidence of course, but some are fairly convincing, if easily dismissed.
Mind you, I only responded to your original statement, in which you claimed they are genetically incapable of certain things instead of commenting about the extent of their abilities. Do not make the mistake of taking this too seriously.

Comment posted by RandomCommentor deleted Jul 3rd, 2022

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Well i thought it was funny.

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They are only 'sentient' by the RE-DEFINED word as applied by animal rights activists, which muddies the meaning of the word rather terribly and makes it exceedingly difficult to discern between ACTUAL conscious self-awareness and more complex instinctive self-preservation behavior. By some measures, amoebas are 'sentient' by this modern definition.

The term has never been "re-defined". It was coined in the 1630s to mean "the ability to feel", and its definition remains such today.

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Or, the most likely answer — even well-written sarcasm is very difficult to distinguish from a genuine statement on the Internet.

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It has been adapted by scientists and re-defined to include certain criteria that the meaning doesn't cover. It was moving goalposts, but even those criteria kept being met.
I think Alondro is claiming that the scientific methods used by professional zoologists to observe behavior allows misinterpretation, even though one could argue the same about the old methods, which have been deemed flawed. I honestly don't know how that constitutes to be any kind of redefining.

Then in the 60's SAPIENT was repurposed for describing humans and anthropomorphic aliens, anticipating that sentient won't be scientifically correct. And sapience is now the correct word to use in literature for humanoids.

About that sarcasm part, I think he just made a claim that was incorrect in a way he didn't intend, and people picked up on it. It was amusing otherwise. People are too obsessed with upvotes.

11289587 That's because you have a huge, fat, juicy human brain! .... mmmmmmm... *Alondro eats ur brainz, because zombie*

11289728 No, it was my very first comment, where at the end of it I strongly implied the sarcasm with the line, paraphrased: "I want my magical stories to be scientifically accurate"

THAT was what the downvoters didn't pick up on....PROVING THEY HAVE TINY HORSE BRAINZ! BWAH HA HA HA HA!! :trollestia:

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