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This story is a sequel to Zeno's Paradox
Twilight Sparkle tries to make Rainbow Dash's head explode with pure logic.
This is a sequel to my earlier story, Zeno's Paradox, though it can be read independently of it. It is based on Carl Gustav Hempel's paradox of the ravens.
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Wedge out, Rainbow! Use wedge out!!
Damn.
You're good at this.
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Thanks.
Rainbow, please go paint a raven white now...
XD, never call someone a nerd.
To be fair to Rainbow, she did have to first observe a Raven. Without knowing what Raven looked like in the first place, she couldn't have known the basis of the theory that all ravens are black. So Twilight's statement:
Is false. Other than that, good job. Fucked my head up.
8022091 it's true, since:
a) all ravens are black
b) there are no ravens in the room
c) nothing in the room noted is black
Thus, since there isn't any black objects or ravens, we can deduce using context clues that ravens are indeed black.
8022117 I never meant to say that it wasn't. Furthermore, point C is incorrect because Rainbow does indeed say that a bookmark in the room is black, which Twilight uses to note that the statement — all non-black things are non-ravens — doesn't mention black things.
It's a perfectly fine statement.
Fuck.
My.
Life.
>.< >.< >.< >.< >.<
Thank you for killing my brain!!
GAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
....I repeat my statement from the previous story. Seriously, at this point Twi's just torturing the poor girl.
8022262 darn.
I replied like an hour after I'd read it, so I kinda forgot a bit, but in reality I just wanted to sound smart.
“Doors aren’t my style, nerd,” Rainbow Dash explained, standing up, folding her wings carefully, and rubbing the back of her head, where a particularly voluminous book by Colt Gustav Amble had landed
I'm pretty sure dash would say egghead instead of nerd
That picture is from those IDW comics, right?
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Nerd, for reasons.
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It is, yes.
It use to be thought all swans are white. Then someone went to Australia and found black swans.
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In Australia, it used to be thought that all swans were black.
Twilight: This sentence is false!
Rainbow: Um, true. I'll go with true. Yeah, that was easy. I'll be honest, I might have heard that one before, though. Sorta cheating.
Twilight: It's a paradox, there is no answer!
Rainbow: Eh, false. A good false.
Twilight started to cry.
Paradox
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Watched the first video. The Monty Hall Problem isn't really a paradox — it's just counter-intuitive. The unexpected hanging paradox is one of my current favourites. I've been explaining it to people for the past few days. Theseus's ship might make a good third story in this series.
And that's why double-counting evidence is a big no-no thing
8023641 Do it.
Do it with A.J.'s barn !
what about:
Video 1
1) A.J.'s barn
2) princess Celestia
3) three gift form Pink Pie
4) Surpris party form Pink Pie
5) donem, some what, Season 5 Episode 25 & 26 ?
6) I.. don't have one for this one
7) a flying R.D.
8 & 9) ....
Video 2
4) done, season 2 episode 20 it's about time
3) do you have one for that one ?
2) Twilght !
1) Mhm...
p.s. I have some in FR
8022283 This time Rainbow really did provoke Twilight. Don't bust Twilight's stuff.
Twilight needs a better outlet for her Sophistry... politics perhaps.
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The most she did was call Twilight a nerd, and that's not exactly much provoking since she's called her egghead before.
But if I rephrase it without using ravens...
Proposition 1: All square things are rectangular things
Proposition 2: All non-square things are non-rectangular things
Ball? Non-square and non-rectangular. Lamp? Non-square and non-rectangular. Book? Whoops--it's a non-square that is rectangular in shape. Proposition 2 is false.
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She crashed through the library again, damaging books as they fell to the ground. She might be able to fix a hole, but a book is a different issue. I mean, they can still be fixed, but Rainbow fucking hurt the book.
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When you say AJ's barn, do you mean it in the same sense as Theseus' Ship?
A damn good story VitalSpark. I loved the last one too.
So then, how is a raven like a writing desk?
"Because it can produce a few notes, though they are very flat; and it is NEVAR put with the wrong end in front!"
8025609 Yes, look at the video
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I didn't want to watch the video, I already knew the "non-ponified" version of the paradox. I just wanted to know if it was the same concept.
8025732 it is, and here's one that is Pokemon
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Ok, let's do this!
1. Maybe the Pokémon say the same thing, but people just hear them differently. A list of cross-linguistic onomatopoeais, with for example, a dog barking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-linguistic_onomatopoeias#Dog_barking
Notice the differences in spelling? The same thing is going on with hearing in Pokémon.
2. Not even possible. Pokéballs don't break partially (joke). This is Theseus' Ship. Pretty good.
3. They're both basically right. Therefore, whoever wins the battle gets the favorable end of the deal (teacher wins, payment occurs, student wins, no payment)
4. That...is so bad...that's not how statistics and probability works...go back to highschool please. This is physically paining me. (The YouTuber, not you).
5. Not possible. Can't grab another person's Pokéball, otherwise Oak will get into your head and say This isn't the time to use that! (joke)
I know this isn't what you expected from me, but this is what you get. Nice video, apart from #4.
8025946 Do you know FR ?
p.s. let's do the rest in P.M.s
8023641 so this implies there WILL be a sequel, yes? This pleases me
But, by that logic, doesn't that also mean that all black things are ravens?
8027937 As the second proposition didn't talk about black things, neither did the first talk about non-raven black things.
I just read this.
It sounds nuts.
This is why I don't deal in the world of philosophy.
Seriously, twice in a row Twilight's decided to pull philosophical bullshit out to mess with Rainbow.
Seriously, condescending bitch. Emphasis on bitch.
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Possibly. I like trilogies.
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No, proposition 2 should be: all non-rectangular things are non-square things. Which is true: find a ball; this is non-rectangular, and you'll also find it's non-square.
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Mentioned in the fic - the second proposition "all non-black things are non-ravens" does not deal with black things, and the only correlation is the first proposition asserting that "all ravens are black"
There would have to be a worded inclusion or exclusion in a proposition to assert something, like "all black things are ravens", which is absurd and thus Twilight, speaking logically, would not assert it.
But, but, but... there are albino ravens...
I feel so bad for Rainbow.
You can has review.
I'd expect this kind of insane troll logic from Pinkie, not Twilight.
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It becomes a lot more clear if you imagine a universe with only a few things in it, say 500 total. Ravens and not-ravens. You want to check that all ravens are black. If there are very few ravens, say 3, then it's easy to just check all the ravens. On the other hand, if there are 495 ravens, then maybe it's easier to check the non-black things. Say there are 4 non-black things. That's a lot less effort, but it gets the same result, if one of these is a raven, then you have a white raven (or a pink raven or some other kind of raven) and not all ravens are black.
Another way to look at it is that maybe finding black things, and therefore ravens, is really hard. Our imagined universe consists of only five hundred things, so it's pretty dark, and finding black things is a chore. So even if there are way more non-black things than black (and therefore, presumably ravens), it may be less effort to check non-black things.