This story is a sequel to Neither Rain Nor Sleet Nor Gloom of Night... But Chaos, That's Another Story
After the Gala, Fluttershy pulls Discord aside for a talk. Neither of them are too happy about this.
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I admit, I burst out laughing.
I have to hand it to you, every single one of your fics is good. Your Discord is my favorite characterization of him on this site, bar none. You write him with the perfect amount of realism and emotion. I also love how you manage to write out episodes where I didn't really like his character in and make it better.
;_;
Why do I get the feeling this conversation is a precurser to Discord having one of his mental breakdowns? Discord seems to have gone really quiet and is in a hurry to leave and the Smooze thing sounds like an excuse if I ever heard an excuse...
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I don't think he's going to have a breakdown, per se, or I wouldn't have marked the story complete, but I suspect that if I adopt any part of the comic with Discord having nightmares and Luna helping him, this is exactly what would have triggered that. Discord knows how careless he is, he knows how much he doesn't actually care about the well being of most ponies and he knows how carried away and distracted he can get by really fun chaos... and now he knows that that exact behavior is going to make Fluttershy more upset with him than anything else he could do. So right now he's probably feeling a lot of self-pity and fatalism... but I doubt it will drive him to have a breakdown. The Discord & Luna comic seems like a much more likely outcome, with nightmares about losing Fluttershy because he screws everything up.
He is, however, likely to spend the rest of the evening before he falls asleep eating chocolate potato chips and ranting about how demanding ponies are and what do they even want from him.
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He really shouldn't eat so heavily before bed, no wonder he's having nightmares!
6916941 I can just imagine him ranting like that to the Smooze, which quietly pulses in agreement at how flighty ponies are...
(And it's too bad you had it be Coelacats that captured Parcel Post; I was having so much fun assuming it was humans!)
This is so good! I overall enjoy stories with Fluttershy and Discord... just talking. Even if it's about Discord sort of screwing up. Especially with the Gala incident. Because I was someone who wanted more talking between them in the episode. There was a lot more to be said, such as what was written here. And it was executed wonderfully! And of course, when Discord's emotions sneak out, my heart breaks a teeny bit. Don't worry, Discord. Maybe someday you'll figure it out (probably not but you're trying).
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Well, we saw what captured Parcel. I will admit that in the course of my Catholic school education, I have been taught by nuns who looked something like the Coelacat, but mostly one cannot imagine a human ever looking like this:
alara.net/pics/MLP/parcel_post_and_coelacat.png
Twilight would probably have something to say about being stuck in another dimension with different physical laws. Of course, getting her involved here would be a terrible idea. It's a delicate enough situation with just Fluttershy. The last thing anyone needs is the Princess of Preconceived Notions breathing down Discord's neck right now.
Huh. That's an excellent explanation for reconciling the comics and the Crusaders' reactions to Discord in "Make New Friends..." Nice work there.
In all, an excellent and long overdue introduction to empathy for Discord. If nothing else, it's given him something to think about. Good on Fluttershy for making sure that he understood not just the lesson, but what the lesson was supposed to be. Thank you for this.
I know that there is not a romance tag, but I still see fluttercord shipping. That Is how much it has been played.
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They're not actively in a relationship, and Discord is polyamorous so he doesn't really limit his interests to Fluttershy, but in the headcanon these stories come out of, Discord and Fluttershy do each have a romantic interest in the other. The problem is that Fluttershy expects that if a male has a romantic interest in a female he'll express it, and Discord expects that if a pony is a xenophile and has an interest in him they'll make a move on him. He assumes Fluttershy just wants to be friends because most ponies aren't xenophiles and she's never made her romantic interest clear to him; she assumes he just wants to be friends because he's so assertive, if he wanted her wouldn't he have said so? It hasn't occurred to her that Discord has had to protect his heart, in a world where most ponies think he's hideous, by not really letting himself get fixated on a pony romantically unless they demonstrate that they want him, first.
So they're "just friends", but yeah, there is a romantic tension underlying it. At least in this universe. In my Next of Kin to Chaos series they really are just friends because Fluttershy's not a xenophile and Discord has a thing for Captain Picard. :-)
Really nice Fluttershy and Discord fic, probably not in a shipping direction (at least not really for this fic), but I love how patient Fluttershy is as she tries to talk Discord around. By this point he's more petulant than malicious, and while Discord overreacted at the Gala, it did show how much he cared. Obsessed might be a better word, but good thing Fluttershy is so empathic. In a way its almost a scolding parent, friend, or even marefriend, but that's one of the fun things about their relationship. Nice way of tying in comic references too (I wish the show could have had Discord and the CMC on a rampage, er, crusade together, then again Equestria probably woudln't survive that).
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That's an interesting point. I know in your universe Discord and Flutters are attracted to one another (though both unaware of the mutual feelings)--since Discord is polyamorous I've often wondered how it would play out if they were to get together. We know Fluttershy doesn't really appear to be a pony that experiences raging jealousy the way Discord does, but I can see her feeling very insecure and comparing herself to other ponies. Discord's a massive flirt with Twilight for example. I know Twilight wouldn't touch him with a ten foot barge pole, but I notice in your stories Fluttershy seems surprised that Discord talks to her on the same intellectual level he talks to Twilight. Does she notice his flirting and compare herself with her friend as a result?
And would Discord be able to have a monogamous relationship with Fluttershy? In my headcanon he's poly, but I guess I rationalize their relationship (in the stories where they do get together) as the fact that since he's done lots of other things for Fluttershy he's never done for other ponies, perhaps he would make the effort for her. Her life span isn't as long as his and he seems extremely attached to her (not always healthily so). I think if he had his way he'd happily have multiple mares (or stallions) but Discord doesn't always get his way.
Not that mares are breaking his door down to be with him, so perhaps it's a moot point. :P
Discord didn't mention Zecora even though all of the Mane 6 are friends with her.
I wonder how well Zecora and Discord know each other.
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Zecora kind of intimidates Discord. They interact heavily in "Detente" and Zecora will be interacting with Discord in the upcoming chapter of "Love, Friendship and Chaos", but they're not exactly friends. And Discord would probably have seen the Mane 6's friendship with Zecora as more of a business relationship -- they go to her when they need something -- but he's no expert on friendship. I'm sure they occasionally just spend time with Zecora as friends, not just when they need something.
*shudders... being given flashbacks of his time in Camden, NJ...*
"Nopony can do that many joints every day and manage to remember much..."
"THAT psycho Hannibal Lecter-ish carnivore Discord only exists on that one Tumblr! And what a glutton he is too... the whole Mane 6 at once! Gawd, at least take the time to savor each pony!" Fluttershy edges away slowly...
Alondro leads in with a grin, "Weeeeeeeelll..."
Discord grrs, "I wasn't asking you, Cosmic Troll Guy."
Fluttershy blinked, "You know, why weren't we all killed? Tirek betrayed you... but kept his word to Twilight and didn't just laugh in her face and squash us all like bugs... that was weirdly out of character for him, now that I think back on it."
Discord shrugs, "Kid's cartoons have to have a happy ending."
And, of course, it happens because tragedy is all the rage these days.
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I think that if they got together, Discord would be willing to be monogamous with her for the span of her lifetime, but it wouldn't work out well for either of them, because Discord is very easily bored and Fluttershy is not very adventurous, and when you translate this to sex... it's not that Discord would be bored with Fluttershy -- he needs the emotional attachment more than he needs the actual sex, and he could transform Fluttershy if she were willing. It's that he's going to want a lot of variety in their activities, and Fluttershy is going to want to mostly stick to a very limited range of things to do -- vanilla and a few tame kinks. And she's going to be embarrassed that she's so boring and can't give him more, and he's going to be torn between being ashamed that he wants more than she can give and being angry at her that she can't give him more, and if they let it, it would destroy the sexual part of the relationship and damage the friendship, within the next ten-twenty years or so.
I do however have a possible resolution to this that I may be eventually exploring with them.
Discord and Fluttershy gold, as always. ^_^ I had hoped you would write another fic related to "Make New Friends but Keep Discord."
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I'd be very interested in reading it!
I haven't explored this much with them either. About as far as I've gone was written a short blurb (which wasn't long enough to be a story, so it's just a blog post) where Discord transforms Fluttershy into a stallion in bed and she's okay with it, but she balks when Discord says he'd like to transform into a mare and have Fluttershy take him, because she's not into mares. He's okay with it though, and laughs it off.
NOPONY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
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True, I did not expect that.
What are your chief weapons?
6919709 Our chief weapon is surprise...
surprise and fear...fear and surprise....
our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....
Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
Our four...no...
amongst our weapons....
amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again
This was very good. Hits my personal impression of Discord very well: That he often just doesn't get it. Very nice Fluttershy too, assertive but kind. Overall, very nice. Can't really point at any more particulars. Very well done.
Um, okay how to train your Draconequus!
Get some pitchforks, torches, helmets, um.... torture him I don't know just see the movie?
Fun read.
I like this. Seeing the conversation that was necessary but didn't happen or happened off screen. This was long but worth it. I like it.
I expected a lot of this, but not for it to vere straight into the "mortality talk" we all knew Fluttershy was going to have to have with Discord sooner or later. It's a good start, but I feel like it's a bit unsettled, I suspect Discord will come back with a bizarre way to turn Fluttershy immortal sooner or later. (Maybe that explains that time she became a dragon?)
It's things like this that make me feel Discord has more in common with Rarity than he realizes.
6919785 According to the movie, say hello to him when one of his wings has been cut off and make him a replacement.
Oops, that's in the other fic. The AU one with the "sad" label. Except there they cut off (part of) the wing themselves and forgot to give him a replacement.
It's a nice introspective fic of Fluttershy and Discord's relationship. Glad to see I'm not the only person who sees that 'toy' distinction. A couple of things stood out:
That got my attention, came out sounding like a show quote in Flutters' voice.
Both neat little quips from Discord, one that shows him as logical, in his own way, the other showing the snark that he may have gotten from observing Twilight Sparkle.
But then this:
Considering the Flim and Flam timeline in the finale, it's kind of odd to think Discord lives in the forest of the Lorax. No hummingfish?
Tree Chugger, Tree Slugger, Tree Rubber....
Reminds me of Celestia from "Letter From an Irritated Princess", where she would mix up Applejack's name all the time. At least Discord corrected himself halfway through the story.
This is a very important conversation, but I kind of wish it had been about something else. The dialogue goes in a number of circles as it is, but Discord's reactions especially sound like "Nice Guy whines he can't tell racist jokes". I think you could get a lot more use out of the scenario than just addressing what happened in the episode. :B
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That's kind of intentional. Discord totally is that guy who'd complain that he can't make racist jokes anymore; he sold out his best friend for the freedom to harass people as much as he likes. He's incredibly lucky that he lives with ponies; humans would never forgive him for that. It's going around in circles because Discord doesn't want to accept it. Believing that he was wrong because he was mistaken is trivial; he's fine with acknowledging that he made a mistake. But believing that he was wrong because there's something fundamentally wrong with his entire worldview is something he really doesn't want to accept, because if he accepted it, he'd have to change.
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Okay then! :D
I like this short little story, but I feel as though discord was a bit too... lowly. In your other stories like NTH and Negotiating Terms, he seems a *loooot* more like himself. I know he hasn't had a friend in a *realllyy* long time in your universe, but I feel he's acting a bit too much like a child being scolded than a supposedly millenia-old lord of chaos, who would need to understand the intricacies of friendship in order to be able to effectively break them apart and cause all of those deliciously chaotic emotions.