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Before reading this: Pppffttt!! How the heck are they gonna die in this primitive planet? Don't they have those OP Mechs on their side?
After reading this: You gonna kidding me!!!??? This is so embarrassing.
Fyi: there is a Battletech tag.
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I mean, kinda said as much in the story description that its the result of a caffeine binge and not exactly meant to be taken seriously.
Its not meant to be parody either, but on the note of it being a primitive world, well, how many times has, in real life, a 'superior technological force' gone in swaggering only to get their asses kicked? In the modern era, more than most people like to admit. And a world where the supernatural is the norm, which BT doesn't exactly have much in the way of counter to(not that they don't have anything of the sort either). Hell, we even see technologically superior forces get overwhelmed commonly in BT lore itself. The SLDF, the Clans, ComStar/Word of Blake... its not exactly a rare occurrence.
Either way, the important bit I think is still that I had fun writing it, and it helped clear a major writer's block in the process.
I'm sorry it didn't live up to your expectations. Doubt it'll live up to most people's.
Hope your day goes well.
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Thank you for the information, I didn't actually know that, and will be adding it!
Is this a joke? I don't see a comedy tag. Sombra would get the shit kicked out of him by single mech, let alone an entire mercenary group. It feels like the fic's only goal was to shit on MechWarrior verse.
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Exactly! But the author did warn us not to take this seriously. It still doesn't stop me for being not amused.
Professor Tex would be disappointed in all of you. I recommend his material, and all related content around BattleTech/MechWarrior, as it explains why a lower tech-base machine or army is not necessarily an end against a technologically superior opponent.
It's not super serious, but it is based on a realistic setting with people who aren't machines, and don't act like machines, or omnipotent people who already know what is about to happen.
TL;DR, Sombra doesn't get bodied because he has a functionally endless supply of bodies to throw at the mechs and vehicles, and he's willing to eat the cost of any losses sustained because it doesn't matter, or he doesn't care. Keep throwing shit at someone without stopping and they'll either pass out from exhaustion, hunger, or thirst, or they'll die to your endless barrage.
With that said, let's look at the situation.
The technology of the battlemechs are quite advanced compared to anything built on Equestria, but the pilots are still human, with little to no modern, relatable or applicable experience with magic. When faced with bullshit the likes of which you have never seen before and don't understand, what rapidly mulches and maims your friends who are all equally capable fighters, you or anyone you know who isn't a total sociopath will start to panic.
You're on an uncharted planet. You don't know where you are. You don't know what's going on. You don't comprehend the black shrieking cloud of nightmares that just swallowed your buddies, and anything you think to do based on what you do understand is insufficient to slow it down long enough to catch a breath, let alone escape to decompress, think and plan.
You're not the reader. You don't know about Sombra or his powers. You are a pilot commanding a very realistic machine that is likely older than you are, and was built before your great great great grandparents were born. You have the expectations of war fought conventionally and unconventionally by and exclusively against human beings wielding similar assets to yours, or less, on a near non-stop basis across multiple star systems and planets, with a total combined history exceeding five hundred years.
Five hundred plus years of near endless war against other people. No aliens more advanced than the local wildlife. Nothing supernatural. The most bizarre thing you may encounter is an opponent that is crazy enough to charge you head on with little more than a sword. You might have encountered a lot of people like that, perhaps multiple at once.
And then, you're out of the known. In the unknown. And this thing that doesn't act like anything man made, or obeys laws you are so intimately familiar with that you know them intuitively, has come out of fucking nowhere, and starts stacking the bodies of your friends.
You're given no time to rest and recuperate, you are chased down like a dog, and you either die screaming, or die tired.
Nothing you do seems to harm it sufficiently to stop or drive it away. It's something that your jaded mind, running on stimulants and a gnawing hunger
If that reasonable expectation of what could happen isn't enough, allow me to direct you to the time DARPA made an AI, and challenged several marines to sneak up on it in the open without being identified.
So DARPA made an AI. They asked some marines for contextual data. It watched them walk around and do normal human things. It learned what to expect from a human.
Then DARPA planted it on a desert plain and said "get close enough to touch it without being identified, or you fail".
Several guys then cartwheeled at it for a few hundred meters and then ran the rest of the way and were never identified.
One guy stripped down, dressed himself as a bush from the local environment, and while slow waddling towards it was never identified.
And two guys got under a giant Amazon cardboard box and Solid Snake'd it up to the thing while giggling the whole time, and were never identified.
Obviously the AI wasn't trained to expect the odd or unexpected, and that is the fault of the programmers, but it was made to be adaptive, and in the exercise failed to adapt in time.
You lot sound like Steiner nobles to me. Armchair generals with no serious consideration for the situation at hand. The Clans made that mistake with Anastasius Focht, and he broke them. With the military forces of a telecommunications company.
Let's see you survive the onslaught when you disregard Sombra coming at you full tilt. I know I'd probably die even if I was an ace pilot or vehicle commander. And you're fooling yourself if you think you could do any better in their shoes.
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Not unless you're the second reinforcements, and saw the video feed of what happened from far away in space.
Like a distress signal.
At least, you get some information, and are a little prepared and be on guard. In order to avenge them.
Plus, you could ally with the ponies ( Sombra's enemies ), and work together to take that bastard down! And the ponies can finally give you useful information for his weakness and stuff.
How's that!?
No limits fallacy. Sombra was never this powerful or lethal in the show. He was in a grand total of three fights and lost all of them like a little bitch. More like Jobra, amirite?
...unlike Sombrero who has a ton of experience with sci-fi war machines?
Right back at you. You're Somberina. You see some aliens. Decide to attack them for the lols. They bring out metal demons beyond your comprehensin. Their weapons are stronger than anything you have seen. You throw everything you have at them, but fail to even leave scratch. Suddenly there's a flash brighter than the sun and louder than thunder right next to you. You are stunned out of your shadow form. The next second you are a bloody smear on the snow. Lols were not had.
Meanwhile, Dumbra's expectatins of war:
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Are you seriously comparing an AI with a few days of experince with veteran humans who have decades of experience here? If anything, Sombadumba is the AI here.
You sound like aristocracy from the GATE anime to me.
"Magic and numbers would beat anyone who doean't have magic lol"
"How did we lose 150000 soldiers without inflicting any casualties on our magicless enemies!?"
"If you give one side every advantage under the sun, they will win"
No shit Sherlock. That's why I said the fic's only goal was to shit on MechWarrior verse. Like the author just had his ass handed to him in Mercenaries multiplayer, so he wrote a revenge porn story.
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I did not show as much restraint as I should have, and surface fighting is a bizarre thing that is difficult to cleanly cut and dry without losing a lot of important context.
Don't think I'll be touching on every point, so I'll skip to the Gate thing.
Yes. Actual Sombra is trash in presentation, and he tries fear mongering more to gain power than to actually crack some skulls. But this Sombra is not that one. This one is optimized based on what we've seen Sombra to be collectively capable of, and then turned up to a nine or something.
But to say that advanced tech alone is the solution to every problem would be folly. It is a complex problem that a lot of people have tried to solve for for longer than I know, and still goes on today. I acknowledge I am not well read enough to spend time elucidating on the exact reasons why Sombra had the advantage here when the result is irrelevant.
Magic and numbers alone can't solve every problem. Nor can a technological advantage the gradient of a sheer cliff face. The goal wasn't just to shit on MechWarrior. If this was set in the Jihad era, I'd say it would be shitting on MechAssault, which I would condone, because those games are not canon and never will be.
I don't know what this is, but it doesn't read to me like revenge porn for a poor MechWarrior Online match or something. Or if it is I must be missing context from the writer under the conditions in which they wrote it.
Really, I get the sense from everyone else that they came here looking for a waffle stomp like it is Gate, and forgot that in BattleTech mechs do get destroyed, and sometimes there's only one left standing by the end with only a few myomer bundles keeping a limb attached.
So feeling disappointed, you voiced your displeasure. To what end, I cannot say. But I'm afraid what you are looking for is not here, and you'd spend your time better than debating with someone who is sleep deprived while waiting for things they cannot control.
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It's kind of unfair to humans to only optimaze Sombra, don't you agree? At the very least, this story needs an AU tag for Sombra.
Neither is magic.
Wellll, there's plenty of bad episodes of mlp to bash too.
It does have one side being utterly dominated and humiliated by the other. It really reads like "revenge of the bullied" type of story.
I came here for a good story like Falling Stars. Instead I got... this. So yes, a bit of venting is in order.
Yes, by other mechs, not stair fetishizing tyrants.
Bingo.
Oh man, I agree so much with you on this but...
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For what its worth, you post anything on the internet, its open to most forms of criticism, warranted or unwarranted.
Generally speaking though, they're entitled to feel how they wish.
Its not my best writing ever(that's probably still related to my EVE Online player fiction writings which are elsewhere), and doubt that even with more chapters, if they materialize, or a few editing passes, it'll ever rise above 'average.'
But even if its not well received, that's entirely okay. Again, it was fun to write, which is the important bit. I can recognize its flaws, without additional context to the scenario it can read as a gigastomp without recourse even though I tried, and somewhat failed to convey the events as occurring over a series of hours and days, being a steady burn down instead of just left right and center everyone dies.
It is what it is, at the end of the day.
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What do you have against Mech Assault? It is only two games ( Along with Mech Commander having two as well. ), while the main series of Mech Warrior has like five. And from what I read in the Wiki. Both have very favorable reviews. So, what is your gripe on them?
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can't speak for Mahazkei, but I really enjoyed the MechAssault games personally, but on returning to them more recently, the arcade-y playstyle and tone are a bit... jarring, in comparison to the background both MA games are set during. Even MechWarrior 5 which tends to go pretty hard on the over the top power fantasy aspect doesn't shy away from trying to utterly BURY your mercs in the smoking craters that is the pre-clan invasion 4th Succession Wars era
worth noting MW5 still has its issues though, and also takes liberties with lore for the sake of fun, which entirely makes sense, its a game meant to be fun first, as is MA
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It's mostly to do with the presentation, legalese, and the fuckery that was the Jihad era and the presentation therein of the MechAssault titles what makes them as canon as the BattleTech cartoon is (it isn't, and may as well be in-canon propaganda because it did not age well to the rest of the setting).
That's my gripe with it. If it wasn't BT/MW, I wouldn't care.
Now Mech Commander is fine. It's just MechAssault that makes me and others uncomfortable, like that green-faced Jade Falcon fuck that drives a Thor (I don't remember his name, don't want to).