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He does love his brother after all...

Hillbe #5 · Jul 5th, 2020 · · 1 ·

:ajbemused: With Pharynx and the patrol gone who ya going to call? Yer Momma?
:twilightoops: 3.5 million interactions and you cry about one bad bug. . .
:trollestia: Loyalty comes from the Citizens who give their consent for our rule...
:pinkiehappy: You killed Kenny you . . .
:facehoof: So much civics 101 - wasted...

Great story, really succinct and well written. Sorry it'll get flamed by bootlickers

Ah, the lost art of subtlety.

I wonder if he regrets it.

Much better than I expected. Thumbs up (something I very rarely do).

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ACAB

Not all changelings are bad!

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Don't make Thorax sad. Give him tasty luvnomz.

Very interesting. You can really tell that the downvote brigade didn't actually read this one and just stopped at the title.

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10 hardly makes a brigade. It could simply be they dislike idea Phrayx killed any one.

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Possibly true, but every fic on the site posted lately that has even a hint of LGBT themes in the title/artwork has been seeing a large number of downvotes, usually shortly after being posted. The actual quality of the stories has varied but it's a pretty easy pattern to follow.

all cats are beautiful

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I'm confused,what about this fic is remotely related to partner preferences or gender idenity? It's about Phayrax's position under Chrysals' Tyrannical caste based rulership. Where he was basicly forced into a caste that is essentially the Gastoppo.

Dawwww! Sweet little bugs!

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The content of the story is not LGBT related (edit: to the best of my understanding), but the title is a play on the concept of Assigned Male/Female At Birth (AMAB or AFAB) which is used when talking about what gender someone was assigned at birth, which is commonly used by trans peeps. This is why I postulated that the group that is downvoting most every new LGBT story right now saw the title, downvoted the story en masse, and never bothered to actually read the story to realize that it's not talking about anything LGBT related, it's just derived from a term that is commonly used when discussing gender.

I could be wrong of course, there could just be 17 people who really did not like the content of the story, but usually with a Like/Dislike ratio this bad I'd expect the quality of the writing to be very poor or the subject to be highly controversial, and frankly this story fits neither of those categories. Therefore, I think the most likely scenario is what I described above. This is happening on nearly every story being posted for the Pride and Positivity event and it seems to me that the downvote brigade mistook this story as part of that due to the title. The downvotes on nearly every comment is also something that has been happening on all of those stories so that adds more credence.

Here's link the the event in question. The stories with any kind of pride flag in them get hit the hardest with the dislikes. This hasn't happened on every story but it's been quite a few, especially the early ones. https://www.fimfiction.net/group/214981/folder/71365/pride-and-positivity-2020?page=2

Wow. That was... damn. Pharynx showing one final act of mercy for his brother and then right back at it.
And yeah, I caught the undertones.

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Uh... no. The dislikes have nothing to do with LGBT causes. I mean, I assume. They most likely come from two things. Firstly the actual story being bad, with blatant and nonsensical propaganda in place of character development, and a shoehorning of political messaging so blatant it's painful. The other is the painfully and hilariously on-the-nose message of "All cops are bastards." Which, while it is painfully obvious that police units are a bit out of control and need serious reform, the idea that ALL cops are bad is just... like so disgustingly black-and-white that it;s insulting to people with a brain.

So, yeah. A lot of down votes are for political reasons, but not due to LGBT issues.

As an aside, I just love it when shitty stories are written about a controversial political message or opinion, and then all criticism of said story is dismissed as "lele trolz whu didnt evn red teh fik!!"

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You know what, I'll admit I hadn't considered the political angle. Not sure I fully agree with your analysis of the story, but you're right that absolutely could be where the dislikes are coming from. I do still think my original post has merit, as I've seen this happening on quite a few other stories, and the title is a reference to gender issues as well as political ones, but on a second look I would agree it's probably not the main reason.

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haven't finished the story yet, but this is outside of the story's context.

The idea behind ACAB is more in the fact that, while not all cops aren't bad at all times (in my experience, as a cis white dude in a small town, most aren't), if you find a cop who's willing to acknowledge the need for reform, admits it, supports necessary reforms, calls out bad behavior by other cops... They tend not to be cops for very long after that. Whether fired (as with th officwrs who called out their chief's blatant racism in Oregon a year or two back) or set up for falls (Serpico style). Or, at best, they learn quickly to keep their mouths shut about what they see and just plead ignorance. To rationalize what they see as "job stress" or "I can't judge his decision because I wasn't in his head." To minimize and deny the existence xistence of a problem as lojg as possible, and then to call the problem an isolated bad apple rather than acknowledging that there seem to be a lot of bad appls if QC is doing its job.

The "thin blue line" mentality forces good cops to become bad ones whenever they have to support their "brothers." Because what is a bad cop if not one who ignores criminal behavior because they know the perp? All the rationalizations in the world still come down to breaking their own rules.

Therefore, when push comes to shove... ACAB is really hard to argue with.

And I say this as somebody who knows several cops as semi-professional acquaintances. Don't know any of them who won't defend a "brother in blue" to the bitter end, which incidentally was video footage of the officer they stopped defending planting a gun on the guy he'd just shot. Right up to that moment, they were still insisting it was a "good shoot," just a matter of a snap decision that had to be made, and tney weren't there to say how they'd have made it.

4 am and so I'm not catching whatever subtle themes this is depicting that warrant the hate, but ah well. Well-written and fairly in-character is good enough for me.

The title made the political angle clear, but viewed independently of that, it's still a well-told little story of the horrors of Chrysalis's regime.

And thinking about it, Chrysalis might actually be more mad at the waste of love than being bothered to execute the flawed herself.

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Perhaps I downvoted it because I hate this insipid injection of poorly written real world politics into a fantasy setting I've enjoyed being a part of for damn near a decade.

Right-wingers sure are fragile snowflakes, lol. Faved because I'm not a moron.

Political garbage of any sort doesn't belong on this website.

I wasn't really sure what to expect from this story, but I don't feel surprised. The length and title are really blatant that this wasn't a well-worked out story. The scenes are quick and suffer from being overly preachy. The content is ill-suited to the everyone tag since it covers Thorax's own brother being instructed on democide and almost carrying out on his brother. The role of the changeling authority feels unnatural and ill-suited to the allegory that you're aiming for. Not spending a lot of time on your content means it doubles-down on the preachiness.

The reader is left with a story that is very forced and has a pony veneer, even if imagined as a grimdark AU. To echo the comment here
10318509 it is painfully obvious that there isn't any subtlety to this. The reader is left feeling frustrated at how bad the point was gotten across and that the story was only a point. Its poor structure makes it for an easy downvote. I'm also genuinely not sure why readers from one of my stories had this in the also liked section.

The story is a good, sympathetic look at Pharynx. He was the best sort of bastard he could be.
The title was a ballsy choice. If you's called it literally anything else, the downvote brigade wouldn't have come pouring out of their clown car angrily honking their red noses and throwing cream pies everywhere.

Honestly I was completely shocked when I got to the comments and found people arguing about politics on this one. I just thought it was an interesting story of how Thorax got out of the hive when he seemed to lack any of the required skills. I don't really see the political parallel that so many people apparently think is painfully obvious, not even when I scrolled back up to read a second time.

Maybe they're reading too much into things, or maybe I don't read enough into them. I enjoyed the story nonetheless.

Actually now I think of it, wouldn't this story be more against ACAB? Pharynx is literally ordered and expected to be a "bastard," yet makes the decision not to be one to his brother. If anything it seems like the moral here is that all cops are not, in fact, bastards.

Those last lines gave me chills. Dang.

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If you willingly uphold a corrupt system, you’re a bastard. Ipso facto all cops are bastards.

He didn’t stop. “I can’t stop thinking about the ponies in pods, or the ones our infiltrators trick.”

Ember: Stop talking!
Thorax: *actually stops*

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