I couldn't help but read everything Celestia said in this voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4f9m4OYkCY

*shoves face into tits* "OH TWILIGHT I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE SO INTO THIS!"

Oh hey, someone's writing the 'Twilestia as horrific child abuse' fic so I don't have to. Bravo.

You might want to use a different picture - that one is fanart of one of my fics.

I'll never understand why people put so much effort into rape fics. Sigh...

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@Varanus - Rape? No, this is love my friend.

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Shield your eyes, lest it corrupt your work

@fireflutterpony - I wouldn't call it horrific child abuse. This is more adorable child abuse.

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Meh. This is an obvious angle, so I'm not surprised it's finally cropped up. I actually feel the explicit nature of it deflates the impact it could have had. It's too blunt, and leaves no real lasting impact, whereas if the story was written from the perspective of Twi having gone through years of abuse, avoiding outright stating what happens and leaving the reader's imagination to conjure up something terrible, that would have shaken me. As it stands I'll likely forget this tale by this evening.

>Pedophilia
>Rape

My real question is why you thought this needed to be written down

MLP:FIM FANDOM DELENDA EST

whoa a hash Celestia Twilight story whoa

I've never been one for 'horn play.' I consider it more preposterous than wingboners, which are already silly. Why would a horn have pleasure sensors on it? Now, having said that, I liked the way Celestia treated Twilight's horn. It felt very dark and very real. Pedobear would be proud.

One issue though; what was with filing the horn and making it smooth? That part just confused me and I think the story would've been better served without it. It's hard enough to imagine the horn as a phallic-like pleasure center without the characters pausing to shave it down with a file. Are crusty bits on the horn meant to be like its foreskin? Was Celestia performing the unicorn equivalent of circumcision?

The story was very well written. You just earned a new follower and I look forward to more stories from you. This site needs more writers willing to take risks and push the envelope of taboo subjects. When such risks are executed well, they deserve to be rewarded.

I, for one, liked this. Power abuse can be very enjoyable. Though I prefer it without foals involved, this was still the closest I've gotten to that particular angle.
It was also written in a way that felt more... dark than the usual "ima rape u now" crap, you know?
I'd agree with Varanus if this wasn't a clopfic.

@Bronystories - I find hornjobs incredibly erotic. It is definitely a way to instill a phallic element into a F/F pairing. Personally I take the narwhal route more with horns, even though that isn't a true horn. So a unicorns horn would be very sensitive, and any sensitive nerve center can be sexual. In this story I'm just using it as a semi intimate act and a way to further degrade Twilight. The actual smoothing of the horn is more a cosmetic issue that is done regularly anyways, and won't affect magic, but at this age Twilight probably has no clue.

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Don't get me wrong, I think you described the horn job well. It's just one of those weird things about clopfics I just have to accept.

BTW, if you click on the speech bubbles in the top right corner of a comment box, you can directly reply to the person, and it will inform them that you replied to their comment. I only found your comment because I was curious what others had to say about your story.

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Yeah, that was the angle I was planning for my own abortive try at this sort of story. Less 'gimme some of that candy little filly hurr hurr hurr', more 'one deeply fucked up pony fucking up another pony and it all ending horribly'. Then I took a step back and realized I was writing something horrible, and went to find something better to do.

Though wait, I've blabbed about this before over on fimchan, you know all this.

This was just fucked up man. Still not as bad as the scootaloo diaries though, at least you know you are a horrible waste of carbon.

Celestia is so devious in this story. And yet strangely sweet toward her victim, especially at the end. I like that contrast a lot! Good work.

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Why put effort into rape stories? I can only speak for myself (uh oh) but I can't write something without throwing myself into it fully, regardless of subject matter. I'm willing to bet that Togashi is the same.

This is my standard answer whenever people ask me that about my own stuff, anyway.

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Why throw yourself into rape?

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Maybe if more people did, clopfics wouldn't have such a bad reputation.

Seriously, though, in my mind rape (as an element in fiction) is no different from, say, murder or violence or other negative elements: if it's written well, it justifies itself. To put it another way, let's say someone wrote a story about Equestria going to war with Griffonland (or whatever it's called.) Why write about something as horrible as war? Well, why not? If you have a good idea, and a good story (or at least, a sincerely written one) comes out of it, then using war as an element in that story is fine. Same thing here. I hate stories that are exploitative and just include rape or gore for the sake of rape or gore. But if you're telling a decent tale (and it's my opinion that Togashi's story was more than decent) then I don't think there's a reason to shy away from using those more controversial elements, if you feel they belong in your fic. So long as it's in there in service of the story, not the other way around.

That paragraph was long and pretentious. Oh, well.

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I understand your position. My philosophy is 'its not what you write, its how you write it'. So long as you find the right angle you can create a powerful tale.

However, this story fetishes rape and pedophilia. Its portrayed as awful, but still erotic and thus appealing. You're praising the technical quality while failing to realise this story only nominally condemns the act. It IS exploitative. I don't know if that was the authors intent, but it is undoubtedly the result.

oh look after rape fic about filly twilight and Celestia abusing her power....

Its not rape if she liked it :3

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I wish it wasn't so rapey If this was longer, and more two-sided in the affection, it would be one of my favorites.

This uh... Made me really uncomfortable

I came to this fic...
Good job.

Interesting, and very dark. Are you gonna write a follow-up with older Twilight? Mebbe one where Celestia demands she return to Canterlot, and when her friends try to bring her back they discover the horrible truth? Please say yes.

Would have been better if there was buttsex dildos

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I can certainly see where you're coming from. However, I don't think the story has a moral obligation to explicitly condemn the actions portrayed. Since this is mature tagged, we are all (hopefully) adults here, and I think we're all smart enough to realize that the actions portrayed in this story are absolutely inexcusable in real life.

A bit too rapey for my tastes, but not bad!

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The fact of the matter is, all stories encourage readers to invest themselves in the world portrayed and communicates ideas across through shared experience. A story that condemns an action discourages the reader from the action, and a story that glorifies or fetishises an action encourages it. That's how stories have always worked, since the myths and fables from the dawn of time.

A story might not have a moral obligation, but a storyteller, as a human being, certainly does and is in fact obliged to condemn actions that are clearly inexcusable. Trusting the audience to understand what you "really" meant is both irresponsible (as you cannot account for every single one of your readers) and amateurish (as a storyteller who cannot convey his message is no storyteller at all).

I don't expect you to agree. A glance at your stories reveals your priorities. Just consider it - a story isn't an accident. It is deliberately crafted for a deliberate purpose. Hence, my original question - why throw yourself into a culture so destructive and vile? Why celebrate something you yourself identified as inexcusable?

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I feel obligated to chime in on this topic.

Personally I don't agree it is an author's job to enforce society's moral compass. If this were the case, we would have no works such as Dostoyevsky or Nitzsche. Many of history's best, most contemplative pieces of literature are the most controversial.

It seems to me it's an author's duty to present their subjects in whatever light they feel is appropriate. In a work of fiction, there are no morals to adhere to. It is entirely up to the reader what they wish to take away from the subject. And in this story, I am outlining the corruption I feel would occur with having a Theocracy based dictator for 1000 years.

Obviously this will lead to unethical and perhaps even reprehensible acts, but it's entirely up to you what to make of it. We wouldn't develop much as human beings if all we did was read sunshine and lollipops all the time.

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I definitely disagree with the idea that I'm "celebrating" it. I'm exploring it, certainly, but that does not imply an endorsement of any kind. There's a reason why most of my stories have the "Tragedy" tag on them. I think all you really need to know is in that little word, really. Not every story can be happy, nor should they be.

Exploring unpleasant subjects does not imply you are in favor of them. I'm not celebrating or endorsing rape any more than Hamletendorses poisoning people, or Batman endorses never moving past the "anger" stage of the mourning process.

I can definitely understand your distaste; this is stuff with a very narrow potential audience, and I'm fine with that. But I don't think it's hurting anyone, aside from fictional ponies.

So why write about weird or unpleasant subjects? Honestly? Because I'm good at it. I want to get better at it. And doing this helps.

Thanks for a good discussion, by the way.

Togashi this was brilliant! I can't wait to read more from you. I agree with HamGravy, for everyone who reads these and has a problem with the content you must realize every writers reasons for posting content is their own. You cannot call such well written and thought out fiction a waste because you did not understand. Perhaps the author wanted to show that any world, including Equestria, is not safe or even if it was meant as a troll you draw from it what you will. Personally, I do not endorse rape but I love horror, suspense, and drama so this suits my interests just fine and it doesn't make me some awful pony.

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I agree with rar1ty. If any of you find a problem with this fiction, you should have realize by the description what it's going to be. If you want a fiction that is pure of heart, then go watch reruns of MLP: Magic is Friendships. This place is for writer who wish to express them self, I'm down for dark, horror, physiology, sad, and sorry to say gore(I'm down with it for the author talent into bring out the suffering and action of the plot with the reaction of the one who is torture and the torturer, for pain, anger, hate, lust, and etc, to describing such emotion, and to read them describes so strongly.) not down for rape at all, but I don't mind for fillyfooler shipping, or fillyfooler force, or maybe fillyfooler rape too, I like the romance part of this, if the story not good, then there no reason for me to read it, I do not like colt or stallion to be in such a fiction with rape, it's a penetration thing, that's my thing, but you don't see me going around posting comment on people who had writing as such, and badmouthing them.

So for all intents and purposes... Twilight is practically actually married to Celestia... At the age of 8?... wow, why would the sun goddess would demand a virgin sacrifice when she can find and get it herself?, and if Twilight Cutie Mark is actually a mark that indicate she's practically Celestia's "propirerty", does that mean that she got also Shining Armor a few years before Twilight as well?

so she is actually some kind of mix of a wife, a student, a sex slave, pet unicorn, and something else?

I really enjoyed that and I applaud you. The spelling and grammar was an 8 out of 10 and could easily be a 10 with a little editing and Overall this got me hard.

I like authors that are willing to explore taboo sex.

Despite what haters may say I think you were very descriptive and I could imagine the action in my head. Good job and I hope to see this be an epic story of years of abuse and maybe it will turn out that the reason Twilight is so fearful of her mentor in the show is because Celestia has broken her. I see you have another chapter. I will read it soon. Great work. Liked, Favorited, Followed.

1028573 I want to see somebody do Molestia on trial for child abuse, with Twilight as a chief witness, trying to reconcile her feelings of loyalty and admiration toward her teacher and former idol with her hatred of what Celestia has done to her and other fillies.

No. Just no. I spend so much time trying to erase Molestia from my memory and then this shit happens.

The eff, man?

But her tears flowed strongly, falling down her face onto her velvet coat. Celestia leaned in and tasted them. Their taste combined with the flavor of this new filly was different than the rest. It always was a new flavor.

I admit, I laughed. I then had no choice but to read Celestia's lines with Cartman's voice for the rest of the fic.

Thank you.

This was so dark and messed up, And I loved every minute of it~

1913911 1089094 I agree completely.

favourite

more I Need MORE

1028972 who is pedobear?my cuzen was theretend by him/her

1089094 this this is why love this guy:

Welp, now that's horrifying.
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A+

this is my head canon

Still a good read the second time through. Yum!

Good job for first chapter, but the adventure goes on!