Silver slid up onto Carrot Plate's back, his forelegs hugging around her barrel in a monstrously suggestive embrace. "Is this what you want?"
Carrot shuddered and wailed, and Silver slid down from her. "I thought not. Will you tell me what's going on, for real? I'm not angry at you, and I don't intend to force this on you."
She spun on him, eyes wide with fear. "You... please. They'll be angry at me if they see you rejecting me."
Silver held up a hoof. "They can't see you here. We're in your dream." But he was no alicorn of dreams. He had no lunar magic, and could not simply dispel the fog of sleep from Carrot's mind.
She shivered softly and glanced around with obvious nervousness. "How can you be sure?"
Silver made his horn glow quite brightly, so she could see it easily. "I'm casting a spell that makes us invisible to them. They'll only know what you tell them, and you don't have to tell them anything. Now who's pressuring you?"
Carrot looked to him, trembling like a leaf in the breeze. "Do you promise? Do you swear? Are you just... toying with me, like..."
Silver raised a hoof and place it on her snout. "Whatever you tell me here will be between us alone. Tell me what's going on."
"My father." Carrot frowned a little. "He said I 'know' you... and you'd be interested... He said I should try to join your... herd."
"And you're not interested." Silver sat on his haunches.
Carrot tensed. "I raped you! I attacked you... You should hate me forever, but... you keep insisting you forgive me, and even if that's true, I... marriage? My father's nuts." She threw a leg wide. "Do you see a wife when you look at me?"
Silver saw a scared young mare. "I do forgive you. I meant it, and I mean to prove it. Would asking you on a date make your father happy?"
Carrot blinked at him. "But... I don't..."
"We won't do anything but talk and eat. My wife, Night Watch, will be there. We'll have a nice time, and you can go home and talk about how impressed I was with you. Your father should relax then, right?"
Carrot frowned a little. "But then he'll want me to finish what I started."
She had a point, and he frowned. Politics was annoying, but it was to be his world, for better or worse. "I've made it public that no new ponies can join my herd at this time. Would he not have some patience?"
The dream abruptly ended, throwing Silver out of her door. His wings spread with the sound of feathers as they went bolt stiff, keeping him from slamming into the ground and narrowly avoiding the ejection migraine. He turned back to her door, but he refused to open. She was awake.
"This is not your realm."
Silver span around to see Luna looking at him with a calm expression. "The dreams of ponykind are mine to patrol. When you used it to seek me out, that was one thing, and loved ones, another, but she is neither of those things."
He took an uncertain step towards Luna. "I didn't mean to--"
"You are an alicorn, truly?" She looked back at his wings. "Sister mentioned it, but you have appeared as such in dreams before."
Silver blinked softly. "I am, truly. I'm not a prince though."
"By what measure are you not?"
He made a broad wave. "I plan to earn that title first. I won't have it given to me."
"We can be friends now, without complication." Luna smiled a little.
Silver winced internally, "Have you heard?"
"About your herd? Word gets around, but that is immaterial, as are we. In the world of dreams, herds mean little. Come." She turned and began walking away.
Silver swallowed thickly with building nervousness. Would it be wise to follow Luna? Would it be wise to spurn her? He fell in behind her, hooves silent in the world of dreams. "You've come and gone a lot."
"I'm sorry." Luna looked over her shoulder. "At some points it was my weakness, and others, your brash nature, but we can put that behind us." She turned to a door and her horn glowed as it opened. "My dream. Follow me." She stepped in and vanished.
Silver glanced about once more before he took a step forward, and the world vanished around him. He was in a dark place. He recognized it as Luna's bedchambers. She was laying on her side, pillows scattered about her. The air was thick with a soft perfume and her eyes bore into him with a smoldering desire. "My stallion."
He froze. "Luna, too fast!"
She tilted her head faintly. "It wasn't too fast when you did it?"
Silver's ears pinned on his head. "I'm sorry about that."
"Don't be sorry, come here." Luna's magic wrapped around him, drawing him closer. "We can finally both have what we've wanted without regrets. I made you what you are. You are my pony in many meanings of the phrase. Will you begrudge me this, and yourself?"
It wasn't that Silver didn't still have feelings for Luna, or didn't find the mysterious night princess attractive. In fact, some parts of him were quite excited to give her exactly what she asked for, but others... "We're both waking dreamers. We can't just dream of infidelity and wave it off as the idle workings of our minds."
Luna perked an ear at him. "Does it bother you that much?"
"Yes!" Silver sat before her. "I want to be a good husband, alicorn or not."
Luna sat up slowly. "And if she consents?"
Silver thought of Night Watch, and her recent fury towards Luna. "You have quite a battle ahead to convince her to adore you as she once did. You hurt her in ways that don't easily heal."
Luna gave a soft cluck of her tongue. "I will speak to her... I want to be angry at you, neigh, furious, but your refusal has good reasons. I won't fault my stallion for being a good husband." She was suddenly close to him and kissed his snout. "Go and sleep."
He was back in his dream room, seated on his human bed. He was alone with his own troubled thoughts.
He awoke in the warm embrace of his wives and nuzzled them both to waking. He was ready to tackle the day, but Samantha had other ideas. "It's time for a new experiment!" she declared boldly. "Do you wish to take notes, Night Watch?"
Night raised a brow at her. "What experiment is this?"
Samantha gestured at herself. "The effects of relationship physical consumation with minimal experience with the participating female, especially when an alicorn is involved."
Night flushed brightly. "You don't need me to watch that!"
Silver joined the blushing, looking between the two mares, unsure of what to say.
"You don't need to, but I'd feel safer." Samantha lowered her head a little. "Please?"
Night's expression softened as it turned from a plea for science to a much more personal one. "I'll support you."
Silver's opinion didn't matter too much, not that he didn't want to do as Samantha wished. He gently pulled her close and they warmed up by mutual grooming before proceeding to the actual deed. She was inexperienced, as promised, but Night held her and whispered encouragements even as Samantha and Silver did as spouses do.
By the time they began to slip from bed, there was a subtly different energy between them. Samantha was fully inducted into the herd, her connection to Silver made physical, but her trust in her alpha mare shown and returned. All three loved one another deeply and well.
With his wives happy, Silver decided to broach the topic. "Remember Luna?"
Night raised a brow. "She's difficult to forget."
That much was true. Silver glanced away a moment. "She's probably going to speak to you."
Night frowned at the news. "She's going to ruin what you're doing, you mean. Now is not the time." She frowned all the more. "I'm not sure there ever will be another time. Rather convenient for her to come trotting back to us after you've grown more to her liking."
Samantha tilted her head a bit. "She did kidnap my favorite subjects and left one of them in unsatisfactory health care arrangements."
Night pointed at Samantha. "That's a lot more mild than I would have put it, but yes, that right there. And don't even start with you not holding a grudge about it. I know you don't, doesn't matter." She pointed at herself. "Good thing you have wives to hold grudges for you. Samantha, keep her away from Silver in any non-professional capacity, you got that?"
Samantha saluted sharply. "As you command, my alpha." She smiled. "I never tested if my deterrants operate on alicorns before! This will be worth taking notes about."
Silver couldn't help but quirk a smile at Samantha's eagerness. "Don't hurt her. She may have made mistakes, but she's not a bad pony, or our enemy." He didn't get much chance to say anything else. He felt a sudden pinch in his left flank, glanced over to see a slender dart embedded there, then flopped forward bonelessly, consciousness stripped from him.
"Hmmm, it works on him, but he's a new alicorn, so I can't call this test conclusive. Besides." She thrust a hoof up. "If you can't repeat it and get the same results, science has not yet been performed!"
Night blinked down at the knocked out Silver before shaking her head at Samantha. "Please try to avoid knocking our stallion out. He does have work to do." Night gently propped him up against the wall and plucked the dart free of him. "How long should he be out for?"
"Assuming my measurements of his bodyweight are accurate, four minutes and twenty-two seconds, with a margin of error of plus or minus five seconds." Samantha looked quite proud of herself. "It shouldn't have any side effects, but I'll ask when he wakes to be sure."
Night kissed Samantha's cheek. "I meant it, keep Luna away unless it's official business. Accepted or not, Silver has more authority now, so you just say you're doing it in his name and nopony should give you too much flack about it." She rose to her hooves and moved for the door. "I have some training to do, but I'll meet Silver at his office when I'm done, so be sure to tell him that."
"He'll be safe with me," promised Samantha before delivering a soft kiss to her comatose stallion and settling patiently to wait for him to stir.
I would like some fan art of a dart in Silver's rear. STAT!
7212055 well 5mb/s in general is the general speed but is not very good being said, i guess you do live in a diffrent zone
... Samantha is apparently a savant with a blowgun.
But it refused to open
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wut?
It feels like Silver actually lose some authorities in the herd...
Night decided everything. While Silver's concerns was voiced and waved away at the same time.
I'm not really sure how to feel about it. On one hand, Silver is VERY forgiving even to those who don't 'need it' (for the lack of better words). On the other hand, he IS a Diplomat, an Ambassidor which make him best at dealing with other people.
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I have absolutly no idea what you mean by 'finesse' unless you mean by her kill level, well its been shown that her spells tend to fail
As talented as Twilight is, her spells occasionally misfire or fail.
When she casts a spell on the parasprites in Swarm of the Century so they won't eat food, they begin to consume items which aren't food, and subsequently destroy Ponyville.
When she tries to assist with Winter Wrap Up by animating a plow with a "come-to-life" spell, she loses control of it and makes a mess.
In The Return of Harmony Part 1, she tries to reverse Discord's strange effects with a "fail-safe spell," but it fails.
In the episode Magic Duel, she has difficulty performing an age spell, which she says is only for "the highest level unicorns."
In Make New Friends but Keep Discord, Twilight fails to stop the Smooze with her magic.
In The Cutie Re-Mark - Part 1, Twilight tries to stop Starlight Glimmer from casting a time-travel spell, but the spell she casts bounces off.
In The Cutie Re-Mark - Part 2, Twilight attempts to cast a spell in self-defense against the timberwolves, but it doesn't work.
what can be stated as fact is that she has the most magical energy out of anyone that we have seen. going along with the ideas that her cutie mark is specifically the mark of magic meaning she has more magic and learns magic easier than most. weather she can use better is a different story, one bit of proof is that in the magical exam, thy used a dead dragon egg and she created life when she hatched spike which has not happened at all in other times in the show, one piece of proof for this is that no one else in the show ever owns a dragon and evening if the majority of the ones who wen't to school hatched an egg, were are their dragons?
this does not go to say that starlight has great magic reserves too but in terms of brute force, twilight has her beat. it was clear that thy where equals in their battle between time but whats not clear is how much magic starlight actually has. after all she levitated herself (weather if it is its own spell is unknown) and fired horn blast, now in no point does she try to kill her because her goel is to make twilight suffer and with her knowledge in magic, she might be able to use spells easier than most so she can conserve energy. after all the average unicorn at most can only do levitation and maybe a light spell.
Luna vs. Night Watch confrontation...
Night Watch: Luna, you will never have him! Go back to the dark hole you crawled out of!
Luna: Well, see you about in a century... OK?
You can't beat an alicorn in this silly Night Watch... What Luna wants, Luna gets... That brings me to that Silver didn't quite caught up with reality... Imortality, at least "agelessness" in this case, is kinda big news... Wonder if he is going to break down in the future...
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I think we all know who wears the pants in this family, eh?
It's quite noble that Silver remains faithful, even in his dreams. I just hope Luna doesn't get more... insistent as time passes.
7212151 I'm not sure that I agree on a few of the specifics, but overall your general points are valid. The major complaint I'd make about what you said is that there's nothing to suggest that a pre-hatched Spike was "dead," since an egg is simply an embryo, and unless you're suggesting that the test was rigged then there's no reason to suggest that it was one that had already died and Twilight brought it back to life. Likewise, the fact that we never see anyone else do this, or other baby dragons, isn't particularly indicative of anything.
7212061 I DO have standards! Their low, but I have them. That said, ink lines are done on adorkable Prince Silver Watch, just a run over with my trusty Crayola color pencils and I'll have it scanned by first of the week.
7212244 Well from the perspective in the show... it appears as tho this exam is meant to see what some one would do in case of failer. the test is not rigged per say but the idea of the test is you can't pass it because the egg is dead.
really Samantha you darted your own Stallion.
some how I think Luna would work this time around she has learned from her mistakes.
7212254 I don't believe that there's anything in the show that suggests that to be the case. The action put forward was clearly difficult, but nothing advances the idea that failure is the intended outcome.
7212265 well the intended outcome was what would the subject do encase of failer. after all in many lore, dragons are said to be dragon proof, also the fact that thy go to many places and not once is another dragon in the rest of pony civilization, in so schools, thy give you a test like this to know you won't freak out. after that some scientist do this as a social experiment
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You don't know that to be the case. Stop making presumptions.
I think you mean "magic-proof," but it doesn't matter, since "many lore" has no bearing on how things function in MLP:FiM.
You seem to be implying that this means that using dragon eggs are a standard part of the entrance exam for Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns, which is not established.
Neither of which are applicable to this particular test at this particular school. You're still operating under the premise that just because something could conceivably function in a certain way, or is used in a certain way in an unrelated context, that that's evidence that it's that way in this particular context. That's not the case.
7212329 well them what do you suggest? because it is evident that there is not a single other dragon living there. some times people need to learn that thy don't always know the answer and that is the first step to succeeding. my last part of irrefutable evidence to this is that twilight in the episode dragon quest, claims that thy have very little knowledge on dragon's. considering that there would be other scientist that is also on the persute of knowledge like her, if that being the case than surly thy would have more info on dragons like their biology, what thy eat and how thy behave. thy would definitaly have knowlege on the bio if their were other ponys that hatched an egg, one large theory is that princess celestia set up the test to try and find the element of magic knowing it would take intence magic to make it hatch, this being because she knew that the thousandth year was coming soon and she was trying to find the next element's. after all, is it a coincidence that thy all just so happen to be in the same place at the same time? i think not. thy all got their cuti mark from the same event.
Haha Silver, it's only just beginning.
Keep going! ;)
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I'd suggest re-reading what I wrote about not taking one event that has insufficient exposition and presuming that your interpretation of it is necessarily correct.
Which doesn't mean that the test that Twilight undertook to get into Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns was standardized.
Leaving aside the incredible irony from you being the one to say this, there's nothing in that particular scene of the show to suggest that that's what's going on there.
Nothing is irrefutable about this; quite the contrary, in fact, since having access to a large enough supply of dragon eggs to run standardized tests with them would seem to suggest that there's some degree of regular contact going on.
Again, that's only true if you presume that they must have a steady supply of dragon eggs with which to test every student. Since they clearly don't have that degree of knowledge regarding dragons, this would seem to imply that no such supply of eggs is to be had.
Which therefore suggests that other ponies haven't hatched an egg, which can just as easily be explained via a lack of eggs as it can a steady supply with a near-universal rate of failure.
Which is another theory based on absolutely nothing at all.
This is your opinion, based on nothing but conjecture.
Which conclusively proves...nothing.
7212470 please tell me than what celestia was planing on doing than with nightmares return since she was not linked to the elements anymore so she needed to find the element bearers and give them the right push, it is known that celestia is gave many nudges to twilight to become an alicorn, anyways, Lauren did say that nobody was expected to hatch the egg
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You're presuming that Princess Celestia wasn't connected to the Elements of Harmony immediately prior to Nightmare Moon's return; nothing says this. In fact, Princess Celestia's line about her and Luna no longer being connected to the Elements of Harmony is said during the season two premiere (The Return of Harmony - Part 1), which happened afterwards. As such, we could very well infer that the reason she is no longer connected to the Elements of Harmony is because Twilight and co. are now, and if that had not been the case then Princess Celestia would have remained connected to them.
Leaving aside questions of "many," this isn't relevant to the issue of the extrance exam to Celestia's school that Twilight took, nor her connection to the Elements of Harmony.
Citation needed. Even then, since the show is a collaborative effort and the final word goes to the intellectual property holders, I'm not sure what you think this proves.
7212522 well all i can say at the moment is that celestia is linked to the elements of Magic, Kindness, and Generosity and in general could not use it without luna who was no longer linked to the elements.
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You seem to be referencing the flashback scene in Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 2 where Celestia and Luna defeat Discord, but rather oddly are overlooking the flashback scene that we see just a few minutes earlier in that same episode, where we see Princess Celestia use all six Elements of Harmony by herself when she seals Nightmare Moon away.
7212556 if this was the case, tham why was luna ever present in the other flash backs if celestia could do it herself? celestia and luna are both there so maybe it was able to work because of that
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Again, this is an area where there is no definitive answer, though I'd posit that Celestia could have done it herself at that point, and simply didn't try to do so. Alternatively, she became able to do so later. However you explain it, the results are clear: by the time Nightmare Moon was banished, Celestia was able to use all six Elements of Harmony on her own.
Unlikely. The idea that they can all work so long as the proper wearers are nearby - even to the point of being used against a bearer - is an explanation that makes less sense than simply positing that Luna, upon becoming Nightmare Moon, had lost her connection to them, and Celestia was able to use all six.
7212573 if celestia was still able to use them... than why did she lock it in the castle she left behind because she never tried to referbih the castle and left it on the pedistil.
In next weeks episode, while Silver sleeps, Princess Samantha makes sure he is not disturbed.
Well, at least Silver knows what to get Samantha for Hearths Warming. A hanky and chloroform kit.
To save on the tranq darts.
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Your question presumes that her having left them there means that she couldn't use them anymore. I'd ask if you had anything to support that theory, but I already know that you don't.
While I would have found the closet thing a good running gag, tranq darts seem the logical choice...and more amusing as a result
7212634 well she might have been able to uses the elements but not to there full potential, after all, why did she send Night mare moon to the moon rather than purify her? it goes to show she could not save her sister with the elements but twilight and co could showing that thy have full control of the elements. if the elements have a concuse which thy might since thy come from the tree of harmony that has been around forever... with the idea that the tree is magic than the tree was probably alive considering its incredibly strong magic, that being said, she was unfit to use the elements after that, after all the element of magic was lost until twilight rediscovered it, oh and another crack into what you said is that if she could still use the elements she would have used them to re-banished Luna again or un corrupt her.
r00d, and destroyed your comment.
but he refused - but it refused
Silver span around - Silver spun around
convinient - convenient
*****
Excellent chapter, the tension is building.
Perhaps Silver should work out some sort of accord with Luna to use the dream world for important business as long as he keeps her in the loop?
Samantha has developed in new and interesting ways since she was first introduced in the dream. Yet in some ways she's still the same pony, and somehow an act that would have been creepy is now cute. I don't know how that happened.
7212066 Telekinesis. No blowing required.
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Speculation, with nothing to support it. Again.
This has never been adequately answered, which does not mean that inventing circumstances to try and resolve this particular mystery meet criteria of logic and rationality just because they do that.
No, it does not "go to show" that. Your explanation is made up to fit the circumstances without any corroboration. You need to provide affirmative evidence that things actually are as you say they are for this to be at all credible.
More speculation with nothing to back it up. There's nothing to suggest that the Tree of Harmony has a consciousness, let alone that the Elements do.
More made-up explanations without citations. There are plenty of magical items and artifacts that have nothing to suggest that they're conscious at all, e.g. the Crystal Heart.
You don't know that to be true. You're supposing that it is with no evidence, just like every other theory you've put forward.
Which proves absolutely nothing.
It's really not.
So your point is that if Princess Celestia could have used them upon Nightmare Moon's return then she definitively would have? And you base this on what, exactly?
It wasn't rude, it was an accurate summary of your lack of supporting evidence, which has been the case for quite literally everything you've postulated. Your entire position has been to make things up based on either extremely thin speculation or else nothing at all. To say that my pointing that out "destroyed" my comment is to (once again) grossly misunderstand what's being discussed.
7212699 Blowgun's funnier.
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Tell me, from what logical stand point would she not use the elements? she could have stopped luna from the very beginning but does not evening try to retrieve the elements of harmony, let alone tell her pupil were thy are because of what exactly? it is a fact that luna and any evil is powerless agenst the elements of harmony, discord knows it to because he sat there and laugh before he was shot instead of trying to escape, proof of this is that he trew those evil seeds to try and use as a curse before he left. that being said it would be an instant victory with luna.
yes because anyone would go an banish there sister to the moon for a thousand years knowing it was her fault for not noticing her sister being mentally taken over.
well in the comic albeit that is not cannon the crystal heart does have a being in it and it was planned but thy decided to destroy it and give a crappy oh is it an evil unicorn or a monster that looks like an unicorn that just wants to be a be a big dick for no reason at all
it proves quite a bit considering that without magic the elements would not work at all and it just so happens that the magic element could not be used since it locked it's self in the stone and would only apear when one who was worthy could weild it, being said, it would not have locked it's self away if it still had an owner, after all it grew on an all powerfull magic tree called the tree of harmeny that has the strongest power on the planet in it.
well its more than speculation. why would the tree have grown? it houses the strongest power in the world capable of defeating any foe and neutralizing any evil, just like the heart, super strong magic does not just come from no were, it would need to be created evening in a world were the answer is always magic, some one definitely put it there and if its that strong, ether it was creative design or some one('s) sacrificed them self for an unknown reason for its creation, after all we have not seen any greater power than it and it would be very stupid for it to just be there, appearing for no reason. i know we can't tell who or what put it there but you can at least agree that something did and that something was strong, stronger than Tirek with all the magic in equestria.
well considering that the elements of harmony can only be used for good and she herself probably never forgave her self for doing so... i would say that since she did not use it in a good way is why she could not use it anymore.
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This question shows that you have a conclusion and are looking for evidence to support it, rather than looking at the evidence and letting it determine what conclusions can be drawn. Celestia hasn't told us why she was absent during the events of the season premiere; we don't even know if she withdrew from things voluntarily or if Nightmare Moon removed her from the picture. Asking why a character would do something is making a guessing game out of their motivations, which is a bad habit to get into since questions of motivation are often not answered, or are answered ambiguously.
See above. Why Princess Celestia does what she does is indeterminate, and so cannot be used to support any particular conclusion that you may already have and are looking to validate.
Except that that's not a "fact," but rather a supposition based on the very few instances we've seen of them being utilized. Nothing outright states that "any evil is powerless against the Elements of Harmony."
That's not proof of anything. Discord simply says (in Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 2);
That says nothing about "all evil" being powerless against the Elements of Harmony. (One could make an argument that Discord's chaos isn't "evil" per se.)
There's nothing to suggest that Luna was "mentally taken over." The show makes it clear that Luna succumbed to darkness on her own, and while it did grant her "dark powers" (according to her statement in Luna Eclipsed). Now, one can make a note about it being suspicious that the removal of those dark powers resulted in an instant change in her attitude, but that could just as easily be said for Sunset Shimmer as well, and there's no evidence of mental contamination there either.
The operative part of this statement is that the comics are not canon, making this rather pointless.
You're flat-out wrong here, which is why you don't expound upon what you think this proves.
Your original point in this regard was that Princess Celestia couldn't "use the Elements to their full potential" because she couldn't redeem Luna but only banish her. Your supporting evidence for this theory was that "the Element of Magic was lost until Twilight found it," which not only doesn't speak directly to your original hypothesis, but is also incorrect. All of the Elements were lost, as mentioned in Friendship is Magic - Part 2:
You seem to be confusing that with a line spoken almost immediately afterwards:
So your point is largely invalid, even though why you thought that "Twilight found the Element of magic" supported the idea of "Princess Celestia couldn't use the Elements at their full potential, and so that's why she banished Nightmare Moon instead of cured her."
Yeah, no. You're forgetting that this was true for all of the Elements of Harmony, not just the Element of Magic. You're presuming that the Elements "locked themselves away," as opposed to any other explanation (e.g. Princess Celestia locked them away), and making up the idea that this wouldn't have happened if they'd had an owner...and that somehow you think that their being made by the Tree of Harmony supports this.
It's not more than speculation (if anything, it's less, since your explanation is so full of holes). You seem to think that "the reason the Tree grew" somehow means "it has a consciousness." That doesn't follow.
Nothing ever says that it can "defeat any foe" or "neutralize any evil." In fact, the fact that it needed the Elements of Harmony returned in order to defeat Discord's plunder plants seems to prove that this isn't the case. Either way, you're making stuff up again.
Yes it does; just look at the Fire of Friendship (from the episode Hearth's Warming Eve).
Making stuff up with no basis.
Just because you think that it's stupid doesn't mean that it is. Your opinion is not a valid point.
No, there is no agreement on any such thing.
Again, we know that it's not true that "the Elements of Harmony can only be used for good," since we saw Sunset Shimmer use the Element of Magic in Equestria Girls to transform herself into a she-demon and brainwash the students of Canterlot High School. Moreover, you're presuming that if Celestia felt guilt over sealing Luna away then that would mean that she couldn't use the Elements of Harmony anymore, which is a supposition without any supporting evidence.
Gezus, next thing you know Starlight and Trixie will show p and want ot marry him next.
7212965 fisrtly i would like to say that i did not down vote your last comment, i will try to take a picture to prove it, secondly look here for things lauren faust says
proof that the test was not normal... i will go ask jim if you want
Can't wait to see Trixie's and Twilight's reaction to Silver's ascension.
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I honestly don't care.
Cool link, but it remains that Lauren's word isn't the final one where the show is concerned. She has a lot of insights, but those aren't definitive pronouncements, since that right belongs to the holder(s) of the intellectual property.
You realize that, if anything, this supports my assertion that the "hatch an egg" test wasn't standardized, right?
7213436 Well actually, it is Lauren's intellectual property. friend ship is magic that is, the rights to the show belonges to hasbro tho, just like how the light bulb is Nicole Tesla's intellectual property.
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You're wrong in both cases. Intellectual property does not mean "creator," which is how you seem to be using the term.
7213565 really? your trying to tell me what Intellectual property is? she created it, the names idea and story.
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Yes, because you clearly don't know. Hence why I left you a link to an explanation (and why your own link doesn't have anything that would back your point up, whereas it agrees with my assertion entirely).
Which, as I said, makes her the creator, not the owner of the intellectual property.
should that be 'it'?
7213601 im done with this, i was talking to some one else and you jumped in and turned it into a debate when me and the other guy were talking ideas and you won't take anything less than fact. no ideas or anything on the matter unless it came from Hasbro them rich greedy selves who took Laurens idea that girls can be strong to and don't need to be a princes into just the oposit, hell there princess twilight doll evening goes on about how she is a princess now and destroying everything she wanted, just because it comes from the man does not make it right, that being said you need to learn how to play nice and at least humor some one because you won't make much friends going along like that.
7209890 well to be honest, not as strong as the best because one that looks like bulk biceps can probably beat him, hell i have my bet on big mac any day of the week, that being said, brains over brawn anyway of the week, if you can out think your foe, thy lose. i would imagine that you could congjer things in that world like a blade or rock and i like to think that is why a unicorn will have the upper hand, after all, what do you do when a magically created blade is attacking you or thy create a spell that acts like a gun? in the least you could lift them with magic and do it star wars style, after that a unicorn could teleport sharp rocks into their foes beating hearts, having it tear its self apart which is why an adept will always have the upper hand, personally i would have an all unicorn army because thy can get strong and use magic and if thy learn thy could also create false wings and walk on clouds, after that thy can create a force field and teleport meaning thy have all the advantages except for brute strength which could be solved with an augmentation spell if thy ever figer out hot to make one, after all the royal guard armor is enchanted to change the ponys color scem and cutie mark, other wise the royal guard is really racist and only allows dark grey and white ponys into there military
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Incorrect. You started this particular dialogue, as in each case I was responding to a message that was directed at me (even if it was also directed at others).
Also incorrect. What I'm objecting to is the supposition that your ideas are necessarily more plausible than any other theories, without showing any particular merit in that regard. If you want to engage in inductive reasoning, there's an evidentiary burden on why your conclusion is superior to other conclusions. Simply postulating something isn't enough.
See above. This is your incorrect interpretation of my position.
...except for the other Mane Five who aren't princesses, and yet remain interesting characters.
I don't care about "right," since that's entirely a matter of opinion. I care about applying critical thinking, rational inquiry, and logic when trying to have a deeper understanding of the series.
It's a debate; if you're expecting your ideas to be humored, that means that you don't have much faith in them as ideas.