Daring— Quit complaining about smashed headcannons— Don't · 8:01am Dec 12th, 2013
Firstly, professional business.
I have a side story to Princess Celestia: The Changeling Queen called Princess Celestia the Changeling Queen: Stories Behind the Mask. Everything that is related in a roundabout way to the main story will be published. These short stories do not spoil past the 8th chapter, just for your information. I'm also trying for a Hearthswarming special that will be published on that side-story link. I do have a chapter, but I want to add more to it and make it a short arc of sorts.
Now... time for the blog post:
Daring— Quit complaining about smashed headcannons— Don't
Seriously, I have heard so much whining about the transition of Daring Do from fictional to real character that I have to post this... I mean even Wanderer D's made a blog post for crying out loud.
Seriously, some people... have they even watched the episode? What was the lesson?
Just had the coolest adventure with the coolest pony ever. Came this close to blowing it because I got so wrapped up in how awesome she was, I almost forgot about how awesome I was. Good thing I didn't, 'cause it gave me a chance to show her how important it is to put your trust in somepony else.
Or what Twilight said:
It's fine to look up to Daring Do, but you've put her so high up on a pedestal, you can't even see your own worth anymore! She's in the fortress, and we're here, and we wouldn't be who we are if we didn't go in after her! And neither would you! So, are you with us, or not?
I mean, what did RD learn? Things aren't what you always expect. Instead of moping around and blowing off at Hasbro and the writers, fanfiction writers and artists should perhaps remember that there is a new opportunity for them to present art and fanfiction. An opportunity for them to adapt to the change in canon and roll with it.
My point being, is that one major interpretation of these words can be applied to the fandom. Instead of putting My Little Pony on such a high pedestal and crafting elaborate headcannons that place it on even higher pedestals, we should remember that this entire fandom is based off of people who see themselves as awesome, who confidently aren't afraid to put out new ideas, new stories and create new worlds and new scenarios for our favorite characters and favorite world. So your headcanon is shattered. Great! Let's rebuild it so it is even better! Fic is screwed? Continue onward! You are freed from the constraints of any canon influence!
So lets take the lesson of "Daring Don't" to heart and remember that this fandom is here because we built it and that we are so not going to whine simply because canon has taken an unexpected route.
Sincerely,
vren55
P.S. 14th chapter on the way. Expect more Cyndra and Lamia.
Right on!
(Though the episode sadly messed up something I wanted to do at some point in my story...
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Also, the episode was awesome! How amazing would it be to have a Daring Do spinoff show!
Exactly! I've learned to be happy when my headcanons are smashed, since (usually) it opens the door to all kinds of new ideas to build on the ruins of the old.
I spent months trying really hard to explain Cadence away as "not really an alicorn, we can just ignore her." But now I realize she's kickass, and I've built even more elaborate ideas about what makes alicorns special and how Cadence fits into things as one. Same with the Tree of Harmony - I had my own ideas about where the Elements of Harmony came from, and I think they were pretty cool, but now I'm working on new ones and they're pretty cool too.
Heck, perhaps at some point there'll be an episode that establishes that Princess Celestia actually isn't a Changeling queen doing an impersonation of her while she recovers. No reason to stop the fanfic! Just means we can now also explore non-Changeling interpretations of the character in future fanfics (haven't thought about that much, I'm sure there's some interesting ideas to be delved into there).
Are we talking about the dumb idea of Twilight´s Mom being the author of Daring Do?
1599055 My new headcanon is that Twilight's mom ghostwrote the stories, because Daring was too busy adventuring to type.
BTW, evidence of the original theory: i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag102/DanielMohan/Tumblr85_zps60f32203.jpg
So, yeah, it was sorta canon the Twilight's mom wrote the Daring Do books.
1599229
Well, you can think what you want (althought Daring Do don´t said by herself that she is the writer, it is pretty obvious that she is the writer of it. I doubt that Twi´s Mom was present at every adventure of Daring Do and so she couldn´t possibly write it all down so detailed than the actual adventurer)
And I guess the artist just wanted to draw something in the background to fill it out so it isn´t just a empty wall. I still prefer the idea that´s actually canon.
At least you are more polite than this other guys who disagreed with my opinion on that matter.
The biggest problem with Daring Don't is why Princess Celestia apparently isn't concerned with Ahuizotl's actions. She has to know what he's up to right?
But writers could just take that as a challenge. Why doesn't she interfere directly or send the Elements? Maybe it's that she's somehow prevented or that she she knows she doesn't need to? There would be a story there either way right?
In my eyes daring don't PROVES that the comics take place in another world
Since when did head canon matter in the first place?
People who become attached to head canon are the lowest form of scum and villainy that can be found in this fandom. These are the people who I would have line up along a wall with their families and shot to pieces.
Frankly, I see the need to have the site go through a yearly purge of old content that is no longer in line the canon in the show, save for anything that has an AU tag slapped to it.
If they really want to know the true feelings of loss, then we should demonstrate it to them in full force with no mercy.
We don't need obsolete fanon to pollute the minds of would be writers and readers.
Why the site hasn't implemented a mandatory policy of adhering to canon up to at least the major events is beyond me. Besides, if we delete those stories, then there will be no fuel to this silly fanon that people are obsessed with.
And if they complain? Fine. Let them.
But the moment they decide to bring it back, the only proper response is a complete ban, no compromises. If they want their damned fanon to live, then they can take it to another site and shove it.
Like I said, the lowest form of scum that you can find here.
I dare say we need to implement a policy against creating head canon that is subjective to change at any time, ignoring AU content of course.
That, or at the very least bully the fools for even daring to create this trivial trite.
1599502
I agree with you about 20% you just said.
1599229 What if the award's just NAMED after Daring Do?
Also not sure how seriously to take things like that since Twilight has Hans Delbrook's brain in a jar plua Victor Frankenstein's best-seller 'How I Did It' ...
The problem to me is... she's a recolored Rainbow Dash.
I can't. I just can't.
My problem is that the episode plain sucked.
I used to have that mindset. Then a number of terrible season 3 episodes happened. Now I realize how constricting and pointlessly stressful and infuriating a mindset it is.
Sometimes a show just does something so bad, so stupid, so irreconcilable that you just have to complain and strike it from the canon of whatever story you are writing or ever will write.
The best thing a budding fanfic author can do to achieve creative freedom is to realize that what they are writing is not canon, will never be canon, and that unless they're trying to limit themselves as a personal challenge, it's perfectly okay to cherry pick things you like while trashing things you don't. As long as it remains true to the characters and general setting, it's still fanfic. And honestly, it seems most of the best fanfics these days do that. Hell, ANYBODY that openly writes an AU fic does that. YOU do that.
In the grand scheme of things, headcanon does not matter. To all of us individually, though, it does. And when something shatters your headcanon, the best thing to do is not to bend over and to take stupidity in the ass, but to come to the grand epiphany:
Screw gravity.
Fuck that thing that's holding you down and trying to make your story a pile of dogshit, man. In your story, canon doesn't matter as much as your headcanon does. Be creative anyway and any little shit that likes to complain at you can go jump in a septic tank. You didn't like an episode? You thought it was moronic? You have a better idea? Forget about it! Take what works and scrap what doesn't.
That's what the professionals do all the time and it works for you too.
Fuck canon. Then you can fly. Shine on you crazy diamond.
1599562
That's.... contrived. Sorry, but we don't have a The Hobbit award for books or a Star Wars award for movies. Besides, we have no reason to believe that Daring Do is like the Citizen Kane of Equestrian literature or anything. Why would an award be named after it?
My theory is that Twilight's mom wrote a spin-off, or co-wrote some of the books. After all, it's not like everything in the books is based on 'reality'. I mean, AK has to pay the bills somehow.
1599549 Then why not all of it?
What don't you agree with?
Hell at this point, anyone who has the intent to stay with canon should not create any piece of fanon, period. Yet even I myself still dabble in these most wretched affairs, being a hypocrite of my own rantings.
But why all the thumbs down?
Clearly Vern is correct in his statements.
But more drastic measures in quality control must be made.
The complainer, at least for those who back their needless headcanon, is wrong.
Though I myself would like to back fanon to a degree, it is clear that the professional elite among us have spoken in their wisdom that it must remain otherwise.
1599895
Oh please, spare us the trite banter. Do you have anything to back up your claim?
Such arrogance in thinking that the writer can do whatever the hell they want. Tell me, what gives you the right to even outright claim such an absurd concept?
1600128
Fanon! Canon! That's all non-sense. I just believe what was shown in the show.
1600128, Here, have a thumbs up. I think some people have forgotten that verbosity does not equal logical argument.
1600154 Anything else that you wish to add?
1600197, Yeah, what's with the Trixie-faced look?
1600128
...What? You made a loud, angry ramble about how everybody who doesn't keep their story up to date with canon should have their stories deleted and their accounts banned. I said that people should stretch their creative muscles and write what they want to, even if their ideas don't add up with canon. Who needs to back up their claims more here?
Who are you to tell them they can't? I seriously can't fathom what you're trying to say beyond a bunch of angry, charged hyperbole. I'm sorry, who was the one that suggested that people who don't conform to your way of thinking should be banned? I'm arrogant?!
1600202 Oh nothing.
Though I do have a question.
How shall we go about purging these worthless stories from the site?
How shall we go about implementing policies that ban anyone that dares to go against canon?
We don't need these loathsome inferiors polluting the site, do we? After all, they are an inferior breed that drag down the quality of fanfiction. Why, it is questionable that they should even live, let alone write.
If you ask me, perhaps they should have been brutally beaten to make a point.
If logic does not win them over, then brute force in annihilating them will make for a good demonstration, would it not? Who would miss them? Hell, I am even thinking about if we should go about planning murder.
Naturally, this will never happen, realistically speaking.
No one has the guts to go out and murder people in cold blood.
But with how the fandom functions these days, I am starting to think maybe that the concept of inferior "sub humans" might indeed have merit after all.
Not physically as the Nazis would have you believe, but rather in flawed ideology.
Since they cannot be corrected, would it not be logical to have them remove in a more permanent way that cleans up the mess most efficiently?
What do you think?
1600249, ...
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I'm... going to slowly back away and never speak of this again. Sorrygottagobye!
1600249 Forlance may I remind you to keep your comments civil and as non-provocative as possible? I mean you've borderlined come close to this on several occassions when commenting on PC:TCQ. Its not that you have a bad outlook... but you kinda need to consider some people poured their life's work into those 'useless stories'
1600226 I understand. Arguably, at some points... when canon collides so badly with headcannon nothing can survive... well yeah then you really can't do anything about it and its no harm to back out and try something new. The point I was trying to make was that you should just do your best to adapt to the circumstances and NEVER GIVE UP.
1600226 Pfft. You are dealing with a Grade A cynic.
But I digress. What makes you think you have the correct point here?
Just look at Pen Stroke. He has made his corrections to rid his story of needless banter.
Why complain? How is canon wrong?
Perhaps you may hold a point that people may be allowed to freely explore ideas in fanfiction.
However, there must be a standard to be uphold. Compromises have never worked. The more fanon you throw in, the greater the degradation of quality in a story.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt, as you must have some point with all those followers to your name. But until there is an argument to convince me otherwise in a logical manner that pleases both sides of the line, there will never be any peace.
1599502 Forlance....
I'm too tired to write why... but watch what you say.. Seriously. I never said there was such thing as obsolte fanon. I simply said we should try to adapt to the change. That if canon changes, we should do our best to adapt to it.
Sure... fanon can get obsolete and headcanons can get stupid... but as long as they are willing to change... to adapt, I don't see the problem
Not to mention some of these older fanons and headcannons are interesting.
1600287 1600226
Keep it civil people or else I will have to step in and tell both of you... ESPECIALLY with you Forlance, to stop. I will not delete any comments on this blog... but I will ask you to leave if necessary.
Its not that you're wrong Forlance, but you could word them so much better and so less confrontational and you do have a point about Pen Stroke's adapting to canon... problem is that he can't anymore and some people argue that his changes to make Past Sins canon accurate were unnecessary :P
1600268
I agree, to an extent. To give a personal example, when Cadance first showed up, my first instinct was to get mad that Celestia and Luna weren't the only two alicorns anymore. Then I thought about it and I said, 'what if this is but the opening to a whole PANTHEON of alicorns.'
I'm just saying that sometimes it's better to throw off the things that just plain don't work. And given the structure of this show, there are actually a lot of them, especially recently. And in my mind, that's okay, because, while it has been said that "the enemy of art is the absence of limitations," I've found that too many limitations, especially ones that are just stupid or downright don't work, are even more toxic to a work of creative fiction than no limitations whatsoever. This is why I find it more rewarding to pick and choose what limitations you want to impose upon yourself. The only reason I think one should work with every single limitation that's presented to them in a show, would be if they are basically writing something as a personal challenge.
Because let's face it. If you were to work with EVERYTHING we've seen in Friendship is Magic, you'd have to deal with come to life spells, Hydroelectric Dams, Two-keyed typewriters, Steel Girders, Reform Spells, and SO MANY OTHER things you'd have to reconcile that don't make sense even in the context of the show itself.
1600318 A very good comment. Fanfiction thrives on possibilities and I do agree its getting far harder to write canon accurate fanfiction... the show's gone on for so long and so much world-building elements have been introduced its highly difficult to just... well take it all in. So I can see why this is poisonous.
Personally I ignore or adapt certain iffy bits or work on historical Equestria fics which have far more leeway :D
1600288
Civility? Pah. That flew out the window a long time ago.
You know, I once had the belief that fanon should be allowed to flourish, with it being what fanfiction can be used to further the development of one's prose. I really did. Hell, you should have seen my enthusiasm for the diversity in the amount of different fanon people had for Season 1 Luna. So many diverse personalities that you wouldn't even know.
Then Season 2 came around, by which time the fandom started a downward spiral into stupidity of the like which I have not seen before. By the time the third season rolled around, my patience has been effectively eroded into nothing.
I consider myself to be at least a somewhat logical person. Certainly not the most, seeing that there are folks who present clear, concise arguments with a rational manner that accounts and compensate for both sides of the line in a way that I can only dream of in a fashion.
But here, I have seen many among the elite in the fanfiction community state consistently without fail that fanon, while a useful resource, proves to be a complete hindrance once canon clarifies some fanon to be obsolete, yet there are those who stubbornly cling to with a passion. I was once one of those people.
But eventually, logic wins out. With so many writers clarifying that canon must be upheld, I cannot bring myself to support fanon that has been proven wrong, yet is still used in fanfiction, blatantly against the show's spirit.
Compromise does nothing to solve the main problem.
Extreme measures must be taken in order to bring harmony and a sense of both cohesion and balance to the community. So what if a few good ideas die out? They are ultimately not important in the long run of things. Canon is important, and fanon is not, yet there are those who cling to the past with a vengeance, to the point if I wonder if they have some genetic disability that is proving a hindrance to the human species.
Though granted, I will concede that perhaps some fanon is required for fanfiction to exist.
But anyone who deliberately tries to support fanon long ago proven false and wrong must surely be among the foolhardy. There is no one trying to back them up, so why bother supporting a dying breed?
Sadly, the times that they aren't is exactly why the fanfiction that fuels those fanon ideas must be purged from the site. Clearly they have produce a negative influence upon them. Ridding the site of them prevents any more people unknowingly adopting ideas that have long ago been ousted as false.
Canon serves as the glue and common ground that holds fanfiction together.
Fanon? Fire that burns away whatever potentially good content that might be out there.
Though they might be interesting ideas that go into the unconventional, there must be a uniformity in order to have sense of familiarity.
Granted, your response has given me some food for thought, which I shall meditate upon later today and consider your statement. So for now, I suppose I shall put a cease fire on my rantings, if only to spare you the obligation of blocking what surely must be an annoyance that pesters your blog post.
Overall, the whole affair has rendered me exhausted mentally and emotionally.
Logic is a double edged sword. It cuts both ways. A mental drain in arguing and counter arguing has left me bitter and cynical for this fandom's future, especially as of recent. All I know is, someone's gotta take a stand, and whatever the cost, quality must be upheld.
Am I not correct in this? Am I wrong for wanting fanfics to continue to follow a logical pattern in the show's spirit? Am I wrong in casting down ideas that have been prove wrong indisputably?
1600265 What's the matter? Honestly?
1600392 Hmm... wow... your argument is actually REALY REALLY compelling and you were very proper about it which is awesome... logical perhaps, but awesome.
I need to take that into accounta.. and yes there are fanons that are REALLY annoying.
Lyra and Hands for one..... derpy hooves i'm not a big fan of... but Lyra and Hands really gets on my nerves.
1598875 Indeed
WHEN IS CELESTIA IN EXCELSIS GOING TO BE UPDATED!!!!!!!!!
Further, this is the first episode I legitimately hated, as in I told myself afterwards that i probably was necer going to watch it again.
-The plotholes were everywhere
-there was almost no reason for Daring Do to be A.K. Yearling
-the moral, while legitimate, came out of left field
-Daring Do was a flat character
- the sexism was abundant in this episode(I wrote a blogpost I was so pissed)
-the progression was poor
- half of the mane 6 was pointless
-lastly there was just so much potential that wasted!
Now, I know the purpose of this is to stop people from bitching, but I am going to ignore this episode existed, not because it ruins any plans that I wanted, but because it halted any potential growth.
Think of this like superman, we know his story is about a stranger trying to fit in in a foreign world and whatever because he is an alien, but then imagine Bob Kane just decided to chop that all of and say "he was just some normal, average kid from Kansas who happened to be Chuck Norris." Everyone's creativity was just fucked over.
In my same blogpost, I put an idea for how I would have dine the story, even though it solidifies everything as fiction, it comes off as a more mature story rather than just a 26 minute stock Indiana Jones ripoff.
1600392, All of this talk about purging and brute force and, I quote
sounds a little too much like the reasoning behind the Nazi anti-Semitist movement. Now, I know you didn't say you were an advocate of the Nazis, but "inferior 'sub humans'"? Isn't that what caused all of the long-lasting problematic stereotypes that work their way into racist and sexist ways of thinking?
Haven't we already killed enough Americans with firehoses? What exactly does the internet equivalent of a nuclear explosion solve?
You claim that you want to clean up the mess efficiently, but the way you've "addressed" the issue feels threatening and... well, immoral.
*sigh*
Every action has a consequence. Every privilege has a responsibility. Every cause has an effect.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
You told others that they have no right to claim their ideas, yet here you're acting like you're on some pedestal. Maybe that wasn't your intention, but the appearance of attacking only begets more attacking.
A gun is not a shield regardless if people use it "for defense". It is a tool for intimidation, causing injury, and ending a life. Regardless if you hold it or not, it will not cover your heart.
...
I sound like I'm rambling about nothing.
Did it really, ForlanceAbice? Did it really? Or did you just give up trying it because of the hundreds of idiots that happen to use the same internet space as you?
Virtues aren't just a pair of pants that you're supposed take off when they appear dirty. You have to keep using them because nobody else will. In this dying world where people are tossing aside common sense, logic, understanding, and adaptability, what justifies losing those things yourself? Do you honestly think that people will become more reasonable just because you raise your own voice and shove a stick farther up your *ss than the one that's up theirs?!
*pant* *pant*
...
Why am I still here? Why do I try to state a point that's logically nonexistent? How can I properly defend the right to free speech when my emotions get in the way of properly thinking of the right words to say? I don't have Phoenix Wright's touch. I can't just point to a piece of evidence in my inventory and show you what's wrong with the way you've said everything that you've said.
...
All I can do is believe in truth and hope that it somehow reveals itself.
I'm sorry. I'll... get out of your way.
*sniff*
G...Good luck with your... fic deletion strategy. I... I hope you can find whatever m-makes you... happy.
1600458 Word of advice for you.
Don't even dare to use or even create your own fanon.
By doing this, you are violating the show standards.
Hell, your Alternia fic is pushing the knife's edge as it is.
At this point, I would almost consider having you delete it as it stands.
Being your only story that has accumulated more than one hundred likes, I suppose it could be let off to slide, due to its exceptional quality. But you must absolutely adhere to canon, no matter the cost. Fanon must not be included. You are only setting not only yourself, but your readers for future disappointment.
Do you really want that on your hands? Do you really want to go through painful revisions and all?
You must go far to the point that you should not even mention that "Vinyl" character.
Only canon characters are appropriate. Anything else should be purged post haste immediately. Use only what the show gives you. Anything more is asking to get a bloody beating.
You Alternia must follow whatever canon demands, your story and plot be damned. I don't care if you have some epic plotline in mind, or even some supposed "awesome" shipping story.
Scrap those right now and be prepared to kill off your Alternia character when the show demands it, and to restore the proper canon Celestia to her post.
You must also find a way to force your story to conform to S3 and S4 canon.
Remember, it isn't worth a crap if it deviates out of route.
So I appear commanding and pushy, but this is for your own story's survival here on the site.
Do you want a shitty fanon? Or a proper, clean canon?
I think we all know the answer to this one.
If anyone tells you otherwise, they are lying to you.
Do not be tempted. If they continue to insist on continuing some fanon,
then give them the information that you will cancel this story and forget it ever existed.
Fanon is not to be written, and anyone who creates it is nothing more than self obsessed fool that almost surely deserves to be put in the gulags.
1601310 Free speech?
Pfft. Oh my God.
You are actually naive as to think you have a right to that here on this site.
Let me clear one thing up for you.
You have no rights on the Internet and elsewhere.
Only privileges. You follow an ordered hierarchy. This keeps order and harmony in society.
To go against it otherwise makes the person nothing more than a leech that is nothing but a drain on society.
Such loathsome creatures do nothing but hinder human progress, and must be rid of at once by whatever means available.
And extremes are required, for compromises have never done anything but stagnate everything for everyone. This pseudo compassion of yours is but a brittle lie designed to make you help the foolish.
Who said I was the one with the stick up my ass?
Your the one who is getting all emotional.
Though I am the same in some respects, I prefer to regard this merely as ruthless observation, with no sugar coating in any way whatsoever. Brutal and blunt honesty is refreshing for the soul.
In a way, I suppose you could say I am Applejack's anti-hero dark side.
Perhaps not. Maybe you do have a point here.
But regardless, society does not wait for the hero to advance progress.
If it takes a damned villain to make society see its ills, so be it.
I would gladly take to the roll of the villain to make the mass populace open their eyes to a problem that desperately needs to be fixed, which is enough of a reward on its own.
So blind and furious such intentions such as I hold, but I have seen enough of the world that even despite the most compassionate souls whom I can never hope to rival, I can at least bring attention to problems that damn well need them. If I have to act like the self absorbed jackass to accomplish a goal and bring light to a problem, then it must be done, even if my own reputation suffers for it.
And whoever said that anyone ever takes the easy route?
Most all roads are paved to Heaven, Hell, Earth, and everything in between and back.
Perhaps, but what has "compassion" and the "common good" ever done for humanity as a whole? This so called "good guys" act is nothing but a charade made to fool a person for their nation into thinking they are doing the so called "right" thing.
As for being immoral? What makes you think it is like that?
You only think that because you were raised as such. If it were any other circumstance, you would be chiming a different tune.
As for your so called truth?
I hate to burst your bubble, but corruption and filth laden everything.
This fandom is no exception. Such drastic measures are required to continue quality.
Though it would appear that your emotional side has made you feel anger and sadness in such a way that I cannot help but pity you. Such utter naivety in a world where only the cold, ruthless and logical will survive.
Though I suppose that does not necessarily mean the end of compassion, as we all are human beings after all. But the world is a nasty reality. Diplomacy often fails, and when that happens, only the strongest will emerge victorious.
Would you rather the filth and villainous emerge as the victor?
Or would you prefer the less horrendous alternative by far in calculating efficiency that factors in so that the quality of good for the most amount of people possible is achieved?
I believe this answers itself.
In a more jesting manner, if you aren't with me, then you are probably against my cause.
I know you aren't. We have the same common goal. We can still make this a site worth going to, draining all the pus and tearing out the infectious fleas that pollute this site, even if only one by one, we can still take them down and out of commission permanently. You want it, I want it, and we can do this by influencing the site's groups and so forth.
1601805 I'm afraid I can actually no longer adhere to all the canon rules at this point... I've made too many changes in the vein of an AU world. I'm not creating a fanon, but I am creating an AU world that closely follows canon. I'm not going to scream when someone shatters it lol.
And seriously Forlance... can you not... be so confrontational?
1601833 Pfft. If that is what you think is best. You're the one with the popular story, so I suppose your judgement shall see it through thus far.
But regardless, your statement disturbs me to the point in that what you claim can most easily be turned on its head. Such an excuse could easily turn into mindless fanon that is only worthy of utter contempt and hatred. Your story is one of the mere exceptions on the site that can not only be tolerated, but actually looked upon as a a golden example for the rest.
If you truly claim to closely follow canon, then I expect your story to conform to it in any and most all events. (Or at the very least, whenever possible.)
And who said I accused you of crying foul over broken fanon? Only an idiot would be able to deduce otherwise from your blog post. I suppose with a writer such as yourself, I should have more confidence in not including fanon. (Though if any pops up accidentally pops up, I am certain it can be excise precisely without affect the story.)
As for being confrontational?
Borderlined? Quite so indeed. I can only barely preserve my tact and polite demeanor over my spite and contempt for the over confidently foolish and naive on this site. I will be honest here. I only do this as to not incur such a raging flame war as to warrant a permanent block to preserve civility. Otherwise I would have openly blasted the opposition with no remorse. Believe me, I could have done plenty worse to incur conflict, though perhaps not without the cost of losing logic in the process.
But being considerate to those who spent their resources on some of the most banally useless trite that the world has ever seen? Why should I be merciful to such idiocy? If I don't press in my criticism against such content, it will only encourage the writers in question to further produce more as encouragement. I will be damned before I let someone fall down a path which they might not return from when they cross the line.
And why should I not be confrontational? Being compassionate and empathetic with such individuals has to my knowledge, never held much prospect of success. Side stepping the issue will only mean that further dreck will further pollute the site. Individuals who propagate such... Ungodly content must be disciplined as such. I do this out of interest in helping writers, not push them down a path which would inflict a ghastly aliment.
I don't care if I crush their idealistic dreams. Such idealism will only be crushed in the end. The longer it goes on, the worse the crash will be when that ideal for which they aspire for is brutally castrated to the point where what could have been salvaged is lost forever. Granted, I suppose you might have a point in easing up on such rancid retribution on these parties. However, only measures of the drastic likeness and radical changes to how Fimfic operates of which I have proposed will lead to better quality content, contrary to what the majority claim.
Or failing that, at least cut a curb in the amount of mediocre to appalling stories that are submitted to the site.
Wouldn't you rather this site be free of such garbage? It isn't like people read these dated fics anymore. They do not have any purpose nor reason on being this site any longer. If they must be kept, fine. But I damn well want them out of public view by default, being obsolete and misleading at the best of times. At worse... Well, you already probably know of what that is like, maybe more.
I am also under the suspicion that it might be in this site's best interest to introduce policies in terms of a criteria of what exactly can be accepted into the site's own databases. With the exception of AU, all fanfiction must follow the canon that the show presents. If they wish to continue to to be view here without the use of the AU tag, then the writer must be willing to change the plot, characters, and mythos of their story to suit what information that we have been given in canon. This is to prevent the propagation of any stray head canon that could end up fouling the site. Quality over quantity after all.
If they do not wish to conform, they can simply put the AU tag on. Speaking of which, perhaps it might be in their best interest to separate AU stories from the rest. That way, both groups can probably have their good share without instigating conflict between the true canon of stories that follow it, and the dreck with flourishes in the AU section of stories. Exceptions can be made to this rule if the story itself is fairly exceptional in quality of how it was written, such as in your case Vern, but otherwise a stringent set of rules must be enforced.
AU stories such as yours are fine if they do not end up devolving into fanon that plagues the masses. Such ideas must be kept self contained in order to prevent the likes of the filth like the Lyra Heartstrings being obsessed with humans, the ridiculous and absurd notion of the so called "characters" by the name of Octavia Melody and DJ-PON3. These characters, whom have no reason to exist in the first place, are threatening examples to the quality of what a writer can use in terms of creation. Such the likeness of these canonized "fanon" characters must be discouraged.
Writers who are not interested in AU must also be aware that they have an obligation to discontinue stories that do not follow canon. If they wish to continue, then they must be willing to alter the story so that it suits canon, no matter what is "lost" in the process.
An extremity that many will almost certainly encourage many to complain about the supposed "unfairness' of this harsh regime. I will assume this will be do to their personal ego being violated in a way where their beloved "fanon" is violated. Such individuals do not warrant any meaningful respect in terms of know what is quality to a story. They must be regarded as a variable that alter the way the good writers of this site operate negatively.
As for the fanon that has already propagated unfortunately, I am think it would probably be wise to introduce severe penalties for using them, such as a cut in terms of how much exposure they may receive, and a penalty to what thumbs up may be given to them.
Except for limited circumstances, fanon must be completely wiped clean from the site on the main view. If individuals who wish to keep it alive in their own separate sects, fine. But it should be out of plain sight and view, restricted to having these fanon ideas, discussions and stories only viewable to the group that they are in. They may be permitted to keep their own Feature Box if they wish, but ultimately they should not be allowed to even appear as a mention on the main site's homepage.
Perhaps, but they must existed in self contained stories only. And such stupidity must be at least be the focus of scorn without remorse. As for those that refuse to adapt to current changes, they must be excised out of the system completely. Or at least, a measured quarantine of them.
As for them being interesting... I fail to see why you have that opinion. Maybe for the first couple months, but the majority of it has overstayed its welcome and it has to go. They have been proven to be inconsistent with canon, and thus are not compatible nor suitable for being used in fanfiction. Perhaps previously, but not anymore. There is no sense nor logic in going back to old, dilapidated crust of the time. I advise you stay away from even researching them at all. Trust me when I say the early fanon is especially horrendous.
Even though a part of me still longs for it in nostalgia from the early days, my logical mind knows that is nothing but a silly and counter productive fantasy. Individuals that harbor fanon are reckless and over dominating. They must be put in their place, and properly conform.
They have no sense of balance, nor any true ability to actually craft a story, repeating the same old crap from before. They do not innovate, which is why I wish to have the majority of fanon gone for good from this site. Some are not only wrong, but a direct insult to the show and creators themselves.
I should know, having been in this fandom since the near beginning.
Then again, perhaps you have knowledge of this topic I do not. Perhaps your experiences might point towards likewise. It is unlikely, but I am rather curious as to a detailed stance of your opinions on this topic, as for what should be done minimize its effects on the site.
1601805,
I'm glad to see you find this so amusing.
Here's another dose of laughter to keep you away from a doctor for another day.
1. If free speech doesn't exist, then you wouldn't be able to post anything which I disagree with.
2. If only the ruthless survive, then explain how I've been able to live long enough to leave comments.
3. I've taken a look at your stories and they don't follow canon word-for-word. So what? Is breaking from canon only allowed when you do it? *sigh* Hypocrite.
4. You still have yet to prove that quality will actually emerge from the absence of effort from the people. You claim wiping out everything that doesn't meet canonical standards will improve. I hate to burst your bubble, but every fanfiction has something that doesn't match canon events. To remove all the "filth" would remove everything but a blank website with absolutely nothing on it and where nothing could be posted.
Twin drive check. Critical get. Second check. Critical get. Check your damage.
By the way, you can "unfollow" me now. I can guarantee you that none of my stories are canonically accurate either.
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Hmmm...
I do have to admit Forlance is that while it is harsh, there is some logic to your argument. Not to mention I can't tell you what to post, I can only suggest what you should post and not... for the health of your interaction on the internet. And I really hate certain fanons that exist within the fandom. Not to mention there are out of date stories... that don't really put the greatest spin on the canon characters. Meh, I feel it unnecessary to even do anything to these out of date stories, since they are theoretically out of date and I believe that most people won't take them as seriously.
And Tundara, I do think Forlance is at least making a distinction between AU stories that at least acknowledge they are deviating or offering an alternate interpretation from Canon. I mean, that would make sense, AU stories are meant to deviate from canon, but in a way that pays respect to them, at least that's my belief.