Twilight goes over an incident report involving Trixie and a stallion.
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So many have said, yet so many more have ignored. Once one has a 'cause' or 'cassus belli' they will run to the hills with it, damn the fact that those they see as the enemy are more than likely just average Joe going about his daily commute! He's not part of the revolution so knock him to the curb!
Great piece Tiddy, here's hoping it reaches out there and actually wakes a head up or two.
The moral is good, but Twilight of all ponies is being placed waaaaaay too high as an example of how to act. She's abused the use of her magic just as often as a villain and has bypassed the legal system long before she was a princess. Twilight only got away with her crimes as it allowed Celestia's plan for retirement to proceed. Honestly, if the last bit "But words can only be accepted at face value when all facts are present and laid out. Facts don’t care about feelings.." then Twilight would have been placed within a correctional facility several times during the series if not a padded room with how many times she has acted as she did during the Smarty Pants incident or when she has allowed villains to bypass consequences for crimes for whatever ridiculous excuse she would reason out. Actions are actions, circumstances only go so far, and excuses are but excuses.
Still, the writing is excellent and the character dialogue is believeable.
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Let's be honest. All of the Main characters have done questionable things (Especially Dash). And the only reason they haven't suffered the consequences is a combination of out of debt for them/their connections to the throne/Celestia. I think only Fluttershy hasn't really done anything really bad. (Please point out anything for her that maybe I missed.)
Even then I don't think those should cover a lot of things they did (Especially Dash)
Starlight, at least, has owned up to the things she did, and has been willing to take any consequences for them. Can't really blame her for the choices that Twilight and the others make when it comes to those consequences. And unlike other villians, she didn't have to get a beatdown to realize she was in the wrong. She came to that understanding on her own and backed away even though she could have won.
I think having to deal with the craziness of The Mane 6/Trixie/ the Princesses/Discord has been a great way to make up for them. Not to mention, she herself not forgiving herself for quite along time, to the point where I wished she would finally get over it.
It's the reason I love both Starlight and Sunset.
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Maybe the reason why they havent been punished or sent to a correctional facility us because mlp is a cartoon about silly ponies doing silly things? and throwing the main cast into a prison mid way though season 1 doesnt make for a good childrens show.
Well, Trixie previously enslaved Ponyville and all its residents, causing multiple cases of temporary harm to ponies. Compared to causing permanent harm and disability to a single pony, she is doing better!
Equestria, 2021-equivalent:
America, 1862:
"Progress", ladies and gentlemen.
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It's like I always say, you get more with a kind word and a two-by-four than with just a kind word.
I am a free speech absolutist. I firmly believe that everyone should be allowed to say whatever they want whenever they want with absolutely no fear of repercussions. I am also firmly of the opinion that physical violence should be used only as an absolute last resort and only in the defense of one self or others from imminent physical harm. The moment you put your hands on someone, your life is forfeit.
Error: Missing "to"
I'm curious as to what he said to Trixie.
"You're a charlatan! Nay!"
"I'll break your barrel for that insult! Nay!"
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Twilight also enslaved the town. Starlight only enslaved a different town. Sunset tried it with a school.
...
I think I am getting why she said "we" need to do better.
Twilight, Trixie, Sunset, and Starlight. The four horses of the apocalypse: the Mind buck apocalypse.
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In the spirit of the Evil Overlord's Handbook, we need an Equestrian Survival Guide.
"If I am not already immune to magic, my first priority after food and shelter will be to find or create something which protects me from mind-control spells."
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You gotta look outside the box for that answer.
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Fair, but what have the others done lately? Those are all, ahem, past sins, with the other three showing remarkable progress since their village-enslaving days! Well okay not Starlight as much, she's still working on it, but you get the point.
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"Trixie pleads ignorance of the situation! She wasn't expecting the heckler to become injured!" Trixie grovelled before Twilight.
"Trixie!" bellowed her royal purple-ness. "You delivered a full powered rear-buck right into his chest! And I've seen you working out with Applejack to stay in shape. What did you think was going to happen?"
"Trixie expected to kick him into a wall that he would crash through, and then his dazed head would pop out with canaries circling it! Or maybe I would buck him upwards far off into the sky, and he would disappear into a sparkle in the distance, as though blasting off!"
Twilight frustratedly rubbed her brow with a fore-hoof. "That is completely ridiculous. That doesn't make any..." She trailed off, remembering the time that she was
stalkingobserving Pinkie Pie, and a flower pot fell on her, and then an anvil, and then an entire haycart, and then a piano. And she only got injured enough to laugh about it with her friends the next day.She also considered the many times that she or Spike had been in the path of an opening door, and gotten hit so hard that they were crushed into the wall behind it with enough force to crack the wall itself. And everything that Pinkie Pie has ever done.
Twilight let out a tremendous sigh, knowing what she must do. "Trixie, you are absolutely right. This is a silly place, and I feel like we all may be taking this whole situation a bit too seriously. I hereby sentence you," she declared, pointing a hoof at the showmare, "to two semesters studying at the Fillydelphia clown college to work on your slapstick so that this doesn't happen again, (paid for by the crown of course).
"And I sentence you, mister stallion person,"she says, now pointing at a vaguely pony-shaped bundle of gauze and bandages wrapped so tightly around the stallion inside that only his eyes were visible, "I sentence you to lighten the buck up. And also stop threatening to perform sexual acts on pony's mothers. Very lame."
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He told her she should be killed for being transgender. She responded by kicking him.
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Go fuck yourself with a flaming cactus.
EDIT: I guess at least ten of y’all aren’t free speech absolutists.
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I once got mixed up with a guy who looked like me that was a pedophile, and was nearly attacked for it. Turns out the person they were after also worked where I was, but at a different time. Fuck that guy for being a pedophile. Anyway, that was fucking scary. But if It was I who retaliated with that claim against me with a kick, I would be the one escorted by the police instead of the people coming after me.
Saying Trixie should be offed for being Trans in this scenario, that's fucked. We both agree on that, that's for sure. I only really see her response as bit of an issue there.
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Feels weird being the only upvote on this. Warrior did say they are an absolutist. Absolutist is a very strong word and deserves an equally strong reply.
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In Minecraft?
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A downvote isn't censorship or a reduction in the voted speech. A downvote isn't "I don't want you to say this." Therefore downvoting Biscuit's post isn't incompatible with agreement with Warrior's.
It could just be, "you're an asshole." It could be, "you're wrong."
While you could suggest that your one upvote is an affirmation of Warrior's free speech absolutism, it comes across as an affirmation of Biscuit's unusual kink. Since it's on his post and not Warrior's, who has more than one.
Biscuit is welcome to express his kink. Just as we can indicate we're not interested in participating or observing it. The act, not the post. Ideally Warrior will see our votes and be less interested in acquiescence.
10706583
That's true. Absolutes should definitely be challenged. Only a Sith deals in absolutes, as the saying goes. Which is ironic as that saying is in itself an absolute. Words are fun.
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And was then immediately followed up with another absolute, albeit of a slightly different sort.
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I agree. I assume if he practices what he preaches, he didn’t downvote. If he did, he needs to look in a mirror and rethink his statement.
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I once also got mixed up for a wanted felon, after the cop pulled me over. That was good times.
Just for the record, I’m not opposed to kicking pedophiles. Or punching them in the face. If, hypothetically, somebody came up to me and said that they were a pedophile and I punched them in the face and I got arrested for it, I would have no regrets. I’ve been arrested for less.
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No, in real life. An actual, factual cactus, set aflame, inserted in the orifice of choice (I’m not judgmental when it comes to where one fucks oneself).
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That'd probably kill him.
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I see what you mean, broski. Like, yeah, that is disgusting. I guess our divergence there is our methods of handling the situation. Considering all the buzz that's stirred up from this sort of question posed, I think it's a good thing to discuss.
It is temptation. Cause if someone came up and said that to me, and meant it honestly, I'd also be heated. It gets more complicated with further additions to the scenario, it's why certain actions can be seen negatively in hindsight.
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I feel like you haven't thought this one through. Have you ever fallen onto a cactus in Minecraft? It's like getting shot. Much more damaging than the real deal.
I don't know if the fire damage would proc while you're taking cactus damage, though. Might have to settle for it being purely cosmetic.
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I don’t know, I’m not a doctor.
He said “ I firmly believe that everyone should be allowed to say whatever they want whenever they want with absolutely no fear of repercussions.”
I said what I said.
If he’s honest, zero offense should be taken at my words.
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Once upon a time, I was being a dick and I took a young girl’s hat (fifteen, thereabouts, don’t remember exactly). Held it above her head, taunted her; I’m 6’4”, and she was average girl sized.
She was also a soccer player, and she not only knew how to kick, she knew where to kick, and I gave her her hat back and named the bruise on my shin after her, and she could have gone for a nutshot if she was vindictive. I fucked around, I found out.
Was she right to kick me? That’s for the jury to decide. But I learned a valuable lesson. And I can also say that if I’m ever in a duel, she’ll be my second, because she’s utterly unflappable.
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I’ve never played Minecraft, so I have no idea how it damages you in-game. I suppose if Minecraft cacti (on fire or not) are more damaging than IRL cacti, he’s lucky that I proposed sticking an actual cactus in an orifice.
And that tangentially reminds me of the gaming mag that had a section of ‘how long does it take Joe Average to X’, where they’d compare the rules across various tabletop games for how long it took Joe Average (a 0-level NPC) to die of whatever.
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Alright. I'm putting the pieces to your point of view together. Cause I do believe that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from repercussions. cause obviously saying whatever you want is gonna get you in trouble. I think you should be able to speak your mind, but what happens after is what happens after.
So, let's say I'm trans. I get told I should be offed and the person would kill me if they could. Damn, knowing me, I'd want to knock the guy out. But from working retail, and dealing with lots of harsh words in my life, letting myself just fuck the guy up would have it's own share of consequences, even if they had it coming.
So I'd probably just say harsh words back and get away from the creep. But I'm going off the impression you think it's perfectly fine to show the guy who fucked around here to find out. I get that. I personally think it's a bad decision in the long wrong, even if it'd feel great in the moment. And believe me, there has been plenty who've said fucked shit to me I wanted to lay out.
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Or one could argue that a downvote is a consequence, and that everyone that downvoted isn’t a free speech absolutist.
Since I can’t see who downvoted, I have no idea if 10705759 is one of them; I’ll take the high road and assume he isn’t, that he chuckled and said ‘well played, good sir,’ and that the downvotes are those who got offended on his behalf. And I could further assume that he wouldn’t want them to be offended, since every single red downthumb arguably disproves his point, but I don’t want to put words in somebody else’s mouth; I’m sure he’ll weigh in at some point and maybe we’ll both learn something from his reply. I know I’m interested.
Well, I never though of ponies kicking bigots as a kink, but if it is, I embrace it. Some people might argue it’s not as weird as some of my other kinks. Just ask, and I’ll be more than happy to tell you all about them, maybe even provide links (via PM). Once you see it, you can’t unsee it!
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The kink I was referring to is the cactus + fire x orifice thing.
You do you. I'm just offering my own suggestion to him that he not.
That's not a consequence to you for posting. That's just mutual free speech.
If we broaden "consequences" to the absolute maximum possible inclusion of objects, which perhaps he meant, I feel you wander into physically impossible territory. Like, some "consequences" would be purely natural: sound waves from literal speech vibrate matter. That vibration is a consequence technically. There's a certain point of technical, pedantic argument that is really nonsensical.
But Warrior's post and possibly poorly thought out descriptor places zero limits or obligations on us. His descriptor isn't my argument nor any other downvoter. Each person that downvotes has their own reasons and motivations why they do it. I described mine. Downvotes are not a consequence or intended to serve as one. It's not an effort to limit your speech. No moreso than any other exercise of speech in your presence causes. They do not, for example, alter your access to the tools and features of the website. They don't create a ban or mute. I can upvote his post, showing vague and unspecific approval of his post while putting a red arrow on yours without hypocrisy.
If you're eager to explore the absurd extreme of Warrior's idea, that's up to him to engage with you on. I'm not interested in it.
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To answer your question, no. I neither downvoted nor upvoted. Nor was I planning to reply as I saw little point in it. Words only have as much power over you as you give them. And as for your stance on "kicking bigots", I've always been a firm believer in the phrase, "Sunlight is the best disinfectant." Allow a bigot to say his or her peace as loud and clear as he or she pleases and the world will see them for what they are. A raving lunatic, to be dismissed and forgotten. If you try to silence them, or worse, physically attack them, you give an air of legitimacy to their words. Now those who would have dismissed them without a second thought may begin to believe that perhaps there may be some truth to their words. You make your enemies' arguments for them and thus swell their numbers.
No.
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It’s funny, you do something with the idea of maybe picking a fight and it turns out that your potential opponent is maybe the better man. . . .
I admire and respect you for that
Turns out the comments section on the blog post that inspired this story is arguably just that. I’m mostly not weighing in, ‘cause . . .well, you said it, the bigots are calling themselves out without any effort on my part.
While I’m no expert at martial arts, nor would I claim to be, my maestro once implied that certain marital arts were basically helping your opponent find the floor. I like that idea, it’s low-effort, and they were going there anyway, I’m just helping the process. When it comes to physical fights, I’m the big dude wading in with a wrench, and if I’m also being honest, I’m the guy who’d blinking in bewilderment as an actually skilled opponent clatters that wrench against a wall ten feet away and I have no idea how that happened but my lizard brain knows full well I’m about to be fucked and I won’t enjoy it.
And disregarding the purely hypothetical, when I was younger and feeling my oats, I fucked around and I found out. I named the bruise on my shin after her, and counted my blessings that she didn’t go for a nutshot.
Love you or hate you, Tittysparkles, you're the only writer on this site that could have a interesting conversation on the merits of upvoting/downvoting comments on the internet in your comment section.
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Honestly it's nice to see. The more people talk, the more of an understanding everyone comes to. Like for instance I agree with a lot of what Admiral Biscuit is saying, and on the opposite end, I agree with a lot of what Warrior and a few others have said. It's all about clearing the air and making sure we don't fall into the trap of making assumptions and misinterpreting other peoples words.
Like what?
Which is bad, right?
What? Is she being serious?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, I need to see the incident.
Bullsh*t
Why is the town upset and confused?
OMFG!!!
What does she mean by that?
A lot have said that, but do they mean it?
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You'll find some of your answers here in the comments.
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Which ones?
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He told Trixie she should be killed for being who she is. Trixie took offense to that.
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I've got an idea. We'll make him sit on a cactus in Minecraft while while we set his shoes on fire.
When you spend your whole life with a boot on your neck, and someone twists the heel, outlash is a realistic consequence. Unfortunately it's not always productively conducted by, say, working to move the boot, but instead by lashing out at the thing that reminds you the boot is there.
I'm anti-violence and pro-free-speech, but I can't call a dude reaping the hate he sowed totally unjust.
The actual victim will receive the worst of the repercussions. Trixie isn't the one that needed to be better for this situation to be different.
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Wow
Threats shouldn't be made, once made you forfeit your right for a peaceful solution. Making a threat is the same as doing the action, and should be taken with the same severity as the actual action.
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I guess there's a bunch of teenagers that need to be put into prison for life for saying "I'm going to kill you" or "I'm going to fuck your mom" etc to other people online when they play games huh.