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Knackerman
I am the Knackerman. Most of my writing deals with horror, suspense, and tragedy. And yes, there will be gore.
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Haven't read this yet, but I'm assuming from the chapter names that this is based on Trick R Treat
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That’s what I thought and why is Pinkie look scary?
I do like these stories for the most part, especially the first one. However, in every one the Candy Mare is brutally overpowered for not really any reason, and the rules around her change to add more carnage. It hit the point where I rolled my eyes at everything she did, because an unbeatable villain is every bit as boring as an unbeatable hero. If I may be so bold as to guess...
1. Things are strange around here!
2. Carnage
3. Oh no, we need to fight this entity!
4. Carnage
5. We're all almost dead, but we have a hail Mary that should work.
6. It worked!
7. It didn't. You and everybody before you has guessed wrong.
8. Carnage.
9. Everyone is dead.
Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. It's just frustrating to see such a cool villain wasted by making her so powerful that nothing can beat her.
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More inspired by Trick R Treat - which can also be said of the other eight stories in this series. This being the ninth.
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That would be the Candy Mare. Not sure why so many people mistake her for Pinkie - must be her smile.
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Not to spoil it for you but this time it’s more.
1. Carnage
2. Carnage
3. CARNAGE!
4. The comedy stylings of carnage.
5. Yet more carnage
6. Carnage with a side of existential crisis
7. Everyone’s dead
By the way, I think I might have said this to you before, but if you don’t like these stories you don’t have to read them. I’m writing them mainly for my own enjoyment not anyone else’s approval. The Candy Mare is based on and conceived as an 80’s style slasher villain which were notoriously unkillable and were played fast and loose with the ‘rules’ regarding their weaknesses. If you don’t like those kind of schlocky horror films you aren’t going to like stories inspired by them.
If it cheers you up though this is likely the last Candy Mare story as well as the last MLP fanfic in general that I’m going to write since G5 has been less than inspiring.
Just finished reading and yet another great chapter in the candymares legacy. And I loved that it was inspired by Trick R Treat.
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absolutely adore the candy mare and slasher villains in general. havent read yet cause im re-reading all of the sweet to bite stuff but ive no doubt it's wonderful.
she's basically my favorite character in all of anything just because of how many niches she hits in my silly brain.
mlp, slasher, sharp toothed smile, amorphous, the list goes on.
sad to read that this is the last one, but yeah g5 is not uhhh the best.
all good things must come to an end at some point i suppose.
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In restrospect, she does look like Pinkie because she's pink.
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When I saw the cover I immediately went
"OHHH DEAR"
Love the Terrifier 2 reference
I was wondering when you'd incorporate an Art scene into your stories
Art really is just as brutal as Candy or at least almost as brutal
I really get a sense from this that the emotion of the victim stops as they realize something, and it breaks the flow. It just to me seems like horrific gore, but not much in the way of any sense of a thrill or even tension, just a "how will this pony die?"
Hitch's encounter here definitely makes it feel like there's a lack of interaction. Sparky, a chaotic dragon whose fire breath can transmute things, could be replaced by a puppy, and Hitch could be replaced by a quadriplegic.
"ammeter" should be "amateur".
It's good to finally see characters interacting with each other some, but it's a little on the weak side for how many go out in one chapter, and again there's simply no fighting back.
The stuff with Misty was pretty good, though I think only her front would explode, as it didn't seem like the Candy Mare was much in her intestines, or else she'd be crapping blood too. After that however...things felt very much like they fizzled. I think a big problem this story has in general is that it tends to show us some gore, then go to telling us things, rather than having us actually in the perspective of an observer to events outside of ponies being flayed and whatnot. It also has really limited interactions, like how here Opaline barely does anything.
It's been a while since I read other Candy Mare stories, but at least Something Sweet to Bite Too I think was a lot better, probably mostly because of fight sequences with multiple characters.
Oh my gawd, I only just saw this now?? Was it hidden somehow or was I not getting updated?
Either way, I'm so excited now! Happy Friday the 13th and Happy Early Nightmare Night, Knackerman!
Nightmare Night's come early, it seems!
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Look, nobody loves a good slasher film more than me, so I get all of that. It's just that if every Halloween film ended with Michael killing everyone including the final girl, we'd only have about 2 or 3 Michael films.
And it's not that I think these stories are bad and that they're not overall enjoyable, it's just that I feel that there's a twinge of wasted potential in it all. You have this fantastic, iconic villain, and the fact that nobody can beat her no matter what they do makes her a bit of a bore. And yes, write for yourself first. Once you stop writing for yourself, stop writing.
And don't take any of this as personal. I'm not mad that you wrote these or am rolling my eyes when I see another one. If you felt that you have five SSTB stories left to tell, go for it, and don't let anything stop you. Heck, you should be proud of all you've accomplished as is. This series is a massive achievement. Heck, if you ever wanted it in print, hit me up. I've done a few of those.
So no, I don't look at these and think "ugh, again? Why bother?" I apologize if it came off that way, and can see why it might have.
I am not at all ashamed to admit I spent most, if not all of last night reading this story. I've been eagerly anticipating this installment since first seeing the teaser image a couple of days ago and now that some time has passed, and I've gotten the proper amount of rest, I wanted to share my thoughts.
While this latest installment does not come close to being in my top five of the SStB series, I did very much enjoy it for what it was. I do have some minor critiques. For one, I felt the story was a little rushed. I understand that all of this is happening during the span of a single night - Nightmare Night - and that is arguably when the Candy Mare is at her strongest and she has to inflict as much damage as she can before daybreak as she's vulnerable to the light. The Curse of the Candy Cult featured a similar archetype where everything was essentially happening during the span of a single day/night, and I enjoyed that premise greatly.
However, here, it felt particularly rushed in some areas and while I certainly can't speak for other people, I personally would have preferred just a little more build up. But that's just me, and I of course realize you spent a great deal of time writing this story and that you do this purely for fun, so please do not take my words to heart; it's just a personal preference and not a reflection on the quality of the story overall.
On a more positive note, I am thoroughly impressed with how much of this universe you managed to incorporate, especially towards the end when the Candy Mare reveals that, not only did Sunny and her friends restore good magic, but also dark magic, which is something I've been wondering about since the movie release, and it was such a delight to see you expound upon that in such a decisive and intriguing manner. Hands down, that was my favorite moment of the entire story.
Overall, I greatly enjoyed this installment, and while I am disheartened to hear that this will more than likely be the last in the series (which is understandable, I agree that this generation hasn't provided quite as much material to work with as the previous generation) I am all the same overjoyed to have been a part of this horrific and carnage-imbued journey. Candy Mare will forever live as one of my favorite villains of the mlp:fim universe, and I thank you for sharing so much of her story with us.
Bloody, gory, scary, and oh so sickeningly sweet.
Everything a Candy Mare story should be.
Happy Halloween, Knackerman.
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It certainly should. Going to chalk that one up to autocorrect.
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Glad someone caught that one!
I was worried this wouldn't be the audience for that kind of thing anymore, but I had to pay homage to one of the best over-the-top slasher scenes in recent cinema.
I have to agree with the other comments made. Not taking away from the skill of the writing and how the Candy Mare deserves a place among the best creations the fandom has ever produced, but if this is the last SSTB story I do think it’s for the best. The predictability of the narratives has run its course now.
I understand the desire to stick to 80’s Horror traditions, but there’s a reason story-wise they only work for the first movie. You pretty much know the villain will come up tops but you still want to see what they can do power wise, just to get a feel for them. But after the first movie, the audience pretty much has an idea so the sequels have to be visually creative to keep the audiences attention. In a novel form, you don’t get that kind of addition so you rely on the villain or the kills being fun enough to get you through the admittedly predictable events.
Personally I think you achieved this only twice: Home Sweet Home was a brilliant prologue that let the Candy Mare’s cruelty really shine in the scenes she was in. And Candy Mare Goes to Hell was a hilarious, disgusting romp of Jason Lives style silliness.
Everything else… sorry, it never really worked. I kept reading because those two stories did let me know you could surprise me with a fresh take on your usual formula. But for the most part, the casual OP Villain kind of removed the suspense of the chapters with the main characters. I already know they’re gonna fail, so I fail to see how I’d be invested. Like I said, there’s only so many times the same plot beats can be engaging.
This one is the same, it’s just kind of… boring. And maybe that’s because I’m not the right audience for this style and I shouldn’t have expected more, but I still feel this character deserves better narratives. Horror can be cliched and campy, but it can still be engaging. This finale sadly was not.
So yeah, I will always go back to the original story as a highlight of the best of the fandom’s creativity, the other stories I mentioned are welcome additions in my eyes, and you will always have a place as one of the most important horror writers in the fandom, but I do think it’s the right choice to let this be the final story. But of course, that’s all up to you. All the best to you and thanks for all the nightmares your best work had given me.
i just finished reading this and it was absolutely amazing. if this really is the last story that is such a bummer considering the ending.
like usual you brought new ideas to the candy mare that both work, and are incredibly interesting. i'd been wanting to try to write the candy mare in g5 myself ever since i watched it because of how much i like the idea of dark magic being brought back with the good.
plus this makes for an interesting 'reboot' of sorts as potentially hinted by candi and sunny's conversation. this potentially not being the candy mare we know tortured by lemon drop, but instead some idea given form.
overall i love it so much. only my favorite character in all of fiction would continue to be incredibly interesting to me.
if you did write more, i'd imagine it would be sort of like the prequel stories (some of your better work, def some of my favorite moments)
with less of the main cast and more worldbuilding.
i could gush about the candy mare all day but to keep this on the more brief side i love these stories.
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I'd add to this that I didn't even really need suspense/tension in this, I came in fully knowing that the G5 cast was doomed, as only Opaline even has a concept of planning for things like this. My trouble is that characters, even Opaline, just either run away, or stand there to do their one thing, then die, rather than fighting or even so much as communicating with others (in a world where everyone has a phone nearly all the time), and the deaths aren't quite interesting enough (most of them are just lacerations and head-splitting) to add much.
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Maybe it wasn't apparent given how descriptive I tried to make the scenes, but folks aren't just standing around waiting for things to happen or failing to communicate with each other - the Candy Mare is just surprising them and then attacking extremely quickly before much can be done to stop her. The exceptions are Posey (who does try to fight back before her hooves are crushed) manage to reach her phone to call for help but is finished off before it matters, Sunny who knows what the Candy Mare is and what she has done and is able to destroy her but gets caught by candy ghoul versions of her friends, and Opaline who tries to play the long game as she has been shown to prefer to do and gets surprise attacked by the candy ghoul Misty. I tried to emphasize this in the last two chapters as well, but this isn't the run of the mill Candy Mare but one that has been supercharged by the dark magic of Equestria. Trying to run from her is actually the correct thing to do.
I accept the criticism of you not finding the kills interesting enough to carry the narrative, but the idea that the G5 characters first instinct would have been to fight something like the Candy Mare when they have never faced anything like her or the kind of shocking damage she can do seems ridiculous to me. I know I've done a lot of action based stories in this series with epic fights and characters having big showdowns with the Candy Mare, but as you acknowledge yourself a world like G5 and the characters in it are not going to be equipped to deal with her in most scenarios.
Either way, thanks for reading the story, sorry you didn't enjoy it more.
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I should note a lot of it is specifically about Hitch, Zipp, and Opaline, and a feeling of missed opportunities. Hitch just not trying to send out any warning or do...anything at all, at a time in the story where such is feeling overdue, seemed lackluster. Zipp was decent I'd say, it just felt like the execution was a little off with how she finds things by complete accident and gets taken out quick, and then the followup in the next chapter just seems like it's missing impact (maybe Zipp being a bit more alive to be horrified about Pipp, especially if Pipp's front half was revived as a ghoul to help kill Izzy would help). Opaline just seemed...too delayed in reaction once she knew something had infiltrated, and played too straight in seeing Misty as a tool (I'd suggest having her try to save Misty, be horrified and actually upset, but still disrespectful, on seeing Misty's severed jawless head still seemingly alive post-bursting, and fight Candy Mare properly before the bite).
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Hitch does try to warn his fiends but the fog muffled him so he goes unheard, the. He is both blindsided and put into horrific shock by Sparky’s fate and being present to witness it. I understand wanting them to have more of a role in the narrative and maybe get some sort of warning out, but there wasn’t a point after he bumped into the Candy Mare where that would have been possible.
I’ll acknowledge that Zipp probably got sidelined too quickly and probably should have had their own chapter, and if the story was about her investigating what the Candy Mare was doing, how her powers worked, her motivations, and what her goals were then that might have been the case, but that wasn’t what this story was about.
As for Opaline, just because she knew something was wrong that doesn’t mean she could have immediately done something about it, at least not something that would put her severely at risk. Yes she made the wrong choice in the end I’m not acting faster but everything I’ve seen about her character seems to show her being cautious and slow to act directly. If you have a problem with that interpretation of the character then blame how slow the plot of G5 has been.
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I definitely do think MYM's portrayal of Opaline sucks, and this is a big part of why I've been hesitant to do G5-based stories. I suppose a more canon-faithful approach than I'd do does have to be like this.
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Some just can't understand when they aren't the audience for a story. As a huge fan of classic slashers something sweet to bite never misses its mark. From the gorey kills, to the many lovable characters, Candy mare herself included of course, and the many memorable scenes, my favorite here being the demonically altered unity crystal. Such a brilliantly sinister image.
This story definitely felt more raw and visceral than the others, perhaps it was the descriptions going very heavily into detail, combined with the amount of time spent with each victim, which did a lot of good for it. The only thing I wish is that there was more build up much like the first story was a slow burn for a bit allowing us to get more invested in the characters, but that is a minor gripe and does little to take away from the enjoyment I had reading this.
I do enjoy the ending did away with the unity crystals as well, allowing magic to flow free in Equestria once more, as the whole unity crystal thing in G5 really seemed to hinder its potential. And I enjoy the fact that magic was done away with not really due to the fighting between tribes in this universe, but rather is implied to have been done away with due to the various fiends that find use in it. I would love to honestly see a prequel involving this candy mare, and her defeat involving Twilight and her friends choosing to do away with magic, rather than see their world end, I feel that could be a banger of a story.
This all being said, I hope this isn't the last we see of the Candy Mare, I feel she has a few more stories in her, maybe something to close off the fact that Lemon Drop escaped Hell. And one more in this universe. Either way, this story has been the most enjoyment I've gotten out of G5 so far and I'm happy for the stories we've got and if this is truly the end, I can only wish you luck in your future endeavors.
PS:
I'm not sure if this has been asked before, and if it has I apologize. How do you feel about others writing stories about the Candy Mare? One day down the line I would maybe like to, by down the line I mean way down the line. No way I would have time to these days, I've always been a big fan of the concept and the chaotic nature of the killer, as well as all of the situations she can fit in. No I'm not talking about making her fight some OC or another character or something lazy like that, I'm talking a proper alternate universe story about the Candy Mare and all of the misfortune she brings.
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Thanks for the kind words. I do get that some of the critiques are coming from folks that aren’t really my audience, but I don’t blame them from wanting a different story - I just don’t think different is necessarily better. To each their own.
As for your question about someone else writing Candy Mare stories I have no problem with it as long as they acknowledge where the Candy Mare comes from. I hesitate to give my full approval of just anything, but I also don’t feel like my approval is necessary for someone to play with the Candy Mare in their sandbox. So I’d say I’m fine with it in general.
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I don't think this is a case of her being too strong this time around
I think it's more like everything around her being too weak or inexperienced to really do much about her
I would imagine that if twilight in the first story had Opalines or Sunny's raw magic
She could've dealt with her purely through experience
I honestly think this is probably the third weakest we've seen Candy
Possibly only topped by her in her stories where she hadn't been sealed by Luna
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Little sad to hear that this might be the last story but I wholeheartedly understand
G5 as a whole has me a bit "mixed"
Im just glad you managed to get this out
Idk how you did it ðŸ˜ðŸ¤£
I wouldn't have made it past writing the first chapter
I guess that just speaks to your creativity and my laziness🤣
I continue to enjoy these Candy Mare tales. This one is as full of horror movie references and alliteration as I’ve come to expect from the series, and sits quite nicely.
Now, I do see a few of comments regarding the overpowered nature of the Candy Mare, but I think that’s the point. She isn’t some villain to be defeated, she is a force of nature that cannot be stopped any more than you can stop a volcanic eruption. This is also something which can strike with little to no warning, and tends to leave a staggering body count, but I’ve never heard that Mt. Vesuvius is OP despite a similar annihilation of an entire town. The adventure is in watching how characters struggle to try and survive the oncoming apocalypse, even if they all subsequently fail.
In the end though, I watch a disaster movie to watch the disaster happen, and in a slasher/gore story, I read for the murder and gore. Much like Sunny’s take on horror, the more over the top everything is, the less believable and more entertaining the story can become because it’s a safe scare. I know that’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but it most certainly is mine.
I have got to say you have created quite the horror mlp fanfic series since the first one back in 2016. And it has flourish over the years. And so far it didn't fall into the B-Horror pit that most horror series fall into so many times. (Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, just to name a few.)
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Thanks! I try to keep things entertaining. I honestly think I've kind of achieved mixed results overall, but that's one aspect I've striven for.
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Yeah, it's just too bad there have been another audio dramatic reading vid since the last two years ago. I still kind the prequel next instead of the sequel "Something Sweet to Bite Too". Now it just add a bit of confusion with the prequel's epilogue. You know the one with pony Subset?
Celestia damn that was brutal
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No kidding
This is an interesting story
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Thanks! We aim to please
I was so happy that near Nightmare Night I found this new SSTB fanfic.
As a fan of this saga, my first impression was that it is gonna be only an episodic gore-porn... well it was... but not like the other were much different. 😅
My biggest bug on this fic was that, the other SSTB fics were more... story oriented/ tale-like. This one felt more episodic compare to the former ones. It felt like Knackerman gets his dissatisfaction out on G5 generally.
But Knackerman can always amaze me how he can insert Candy in every story to work! MLP, Alternative MLP, EQG, Hell, Old-times MLP and now, G5! It always works! And it's always enjoyable and imaginative horror show.
I'd be happy to read more Candymare stories in the future. Eventhough you said you got no mojo to write more. Maybe, one day you will feel like. I was not actively waiting for them anyway, But it was always a happy surprise when I see a new one.
brutal
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Misty got lucky, or is she
So this Candy Mare Isn't the one we've been following in the series? Are the candy mares going to interact? Will they fight? How does this impact the multi dimensions?
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It’s left open if this is the same Candy Mare from ‘Candy Mare Goes to Hell’ just suped-up on dark magic or of she’s actually a new entity created by dark magic in her image. This is intentional to pay homage to the theme of the ‘requel’ in Hollywood movies where a familiar killer’s origins are left a little ambiguous so as not to confuse an audience that might be seeing them for the first time without having seen any of the previous films in the franchise.
For returning readers if they want to think she is the Candy Mare from the rest of the series that’s perfectly fine- she really may have been ‘called back from beyond the veil’ by Sunny and crew bringing back magic to Equestria. However, for newer readers if they just want to think this Candy Mare is a complete fabrication created from campfire tales and black magic that is fine too. Both are correct - It’s written that way so you can essentially pick your poison.
As for the ‘multiverse’ aspect of the series, the Candyverse was destroyed when the Candy Mare was sent to Limbo at the end of ‘Curse of the Candy Cult’, and the universe that the alternative Candy Mare existed in also ceased to exist as well for ‘unknown reasons’ (basically because of FiM also ending at that time with Season 9.)
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She may have gotten worst fate
What Misty just did is the other path fate that's worse than just being tortured and eaten by Candy Mare. MUCH worse....