Twilight shifted a bit nervously, “Are you sure Page?”
“What, don’t think you can handle me?” I asked with a smile and shifted my position slightly, stretching my wings.
She frowned, “Not that, don’t want to hurt you.”
“Sparky, I usually do this with Luna,” I said and moved up next to her, “Relax, I know what I’m doing.”
Twilight still looked unsure before she nodded, “Okay, we’ll be careful.”
“Luna is watching, she’s good with healing spells,” I said and moved across the training ground before turning to face her again, “Come on Sparky, it’ll be fun.”
Twilight looked over at Sunset where the unicorn were sitting next to Luna, Celestia, Cadence and Shining Armor.
The smile she got from Sunny seemed to have encouraged her, so she nodded and turned back to me, “Okay, let’s do this then.”
“Kick his tail Twilight!”
That would be Rainbow Dash from where the elements were watching from across the area from where the Princesses were.
Channeling my magic, I readied my spells.
Twilight moved first, sending a purple bolt of magic in my direction. The magic snarled across the space between us and I readied everything I had knowing how strong she was.
I layered shields, angled them to redirect the force and dug my horn hooves into the dirt, leaning into it.
I was completely ready for it and it was pretty much the only reason I wasn’t throw across the training ground with broken ribs.
Shining Armor hit hard. Sunset Shimmer hits harder.
Luna hit like a truck when she wanted to.
Twilight made Luna look like a playful swat from Fern and that was without even trying to hurt me. Had she really put some power behind that spell, I would have been a greasy stain on the ground.
Gritting my teeth, I let my shield drop, the remains of her spell sparkling around me.
Note to self, don’t block her.
Conjuring a spear of ice, I sent it in her general direction as I flapped my wings, throwing myself out of the way of a second spell, this one just as strong as the first one.
Alicorn of Friendship. Alicorn of Magic.
Alicorn of Magic mean a lot more when she’s throwing spells your way.
Oh Shit!
A second flap of my wings sent me back the way I came, narrowly missing a spear of ice. Not only was she strong, she was also insanely frustrating!
If she saw a spell, she could pretty much cast it.
In short, Twilight was complete bullshit.
Casting another spell, this one a beam of force at the ground next to her, forcing her to throw up a shield as the spell blasted up a cloud of dust around her.
Another spell and there were four of me and I cast another spell quickly behind it, teleporting onto the balcony above before settling down next to Sunset, stealing her drink.
She frowned a bit at me as Twilight ducked and shielded spells from my illusions below as she tried to figure out which one was real.
“Don’t you think this is cheating?” Sunset asked with a raised eyebrow.
“If you aren’t cheating, you aren’t trying to win,” I said with a grin, “But it does take some of the fun out if it I have to admit.”
A bright light from below ripped the entire illusions below into sparkled. Seems Sparky has gotten tired of ducking fake spells.
Channeling my magic, I teleported back down.
Shaking of the normal disorientation that make teleporting a pain to use, I sent a spell in Twilight's general direction once more, I let the mist fade away along with the copies of me.
Twilight looked significantly dustier than when we started and I smiled at her, stretching my wings, “Come on, Sparks. That wasn’t even close.”
She was looking somewhat annoyed by now.
A spear of force ripped through the illusion of me right next to me and I stepped into the place it was in, dropping the invisibility spell.
Her horn flashed bright and the illusion broke again around me.
Twilight blinked at me in surprise and then her horn flashed again, “…How are you doing that?”
“Doing what?” I asked with a smile, charging up a spell, sending a kinetic spell towards her. She didn’t do a thing to shield against it and it hit her low in the shoulder, sending her rolling onto the ground.
Gasping in surprise, she struggled back onto her hooves, “W-what!?”
“Hmm?” I asked and cast another quick illusion, wrapping myself in invisibility as I moved out of the illusion of myself, running forward.
Twilight looked around and then her horn flashed, the illusion shattering and my invisibility fading away before squeaking in surprise to find me right in her face as I pounced on her.
Tackling her over, I tapped my horn against her head, “Slee… what?”
That’s not rig… a kinetic spell from behind slapped into me, sending me rolling across the dusty ground.
Ow.
“I can do illusions too,” Twilight said with a smile, her image fading away where it had been on the ground.
I just looked at her for a moment before I let my chin drop back onto the ground as I sighed, “…Sparkle OP, plz nerf.”
Yep... hit her with the Nerf bat.
well, that came out of nowhere.
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Well she is the Alicorn of magic which means she has both more raw magical energy and a natural ability to make hers every magic she sees at least once...
Nerf? nah you're just not cheating enough, and if you're not cheating enough you're just not trying hard enough to win
oh and
Pretty sure it's "Shaking off the normal...." not "Shaking of the normal..." if I understand the context right
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It’s why when people start throwing Mary/Gary Stu character accusations around you need to test them against Twilight. If in a straight magic fight they can beat her, they’re probably a Stu. Of course, I say probably because an assasin/combat mage is used to attacking unwired ways and may be able to bullshit their way to a win but you can’t match her head on.
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Except beating Twilight Sparkle at a magic fight doesn't make them a Sue/Stu at all.
If anything something like this makes Twilight Sparkle look more like one.
OP Alicorn or Magic Twilight is still better than "forgets she has a horn anytime it counts" Twilight.
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we are talking about twi right? the only people who beat her are; trixe with the Alicorn Amulet and starlight glimmer who has to be more bullshit than her to make that cutiemark remover and discord but he's a living god so. tirek does not count he eats magic.
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she at least has a backstory to be OP, she was raised by practically the god of raw power and cake herself
starlight on the otherhand was exposed to the cosmic rays from an unshielded pile of plot-tonium giving her superior powers than everybody else ever concieved
8771680 Pretty much. It all depends how the writer is portraying Twilight - as somepony who's not familiar with sneaky-pants combat, somepony who is, or somepony who is intelligent enough to copy, learn, and create her own ninja tactics while in the middle of pitched battle.
In canon, Twilight's usually had magical battles against heavy hitters (either physical or magical) which haven't used super-advanced tactics, just the equivalent of magical haymakers, and has usually come out ahead - and she's been shown even in such fights to not really outthink her opponents, but just hammer them (or use the Orbital Friendship Cannon). About the only time she got sneaky was a single teleport spell when fighting Nightmare Moon. She's a deep-thinker; give her enough time and she'll crack any problem, but she's not (unless written otherwise) good at coming up with amazing tactics on the fly under combat-levels of pressure.
I think there's been at least one fic where Twilight specifically recognized this weakness of hers and entered a series of magic combat tournaments in disguise in order to get better at snap reactions and actually fighting, given that she was tending to be used as Celestia's solution to the Monster of the Week.
Wait a second she can copy the spells of others at a glance! She's an Alpha Stigma.
Blank Page channels any villain that's had the misfortune of facing Twilight Sparkle.
Now in accoradamce with the rules, I will claim my prize!
“Wait! I made no terms. What are you on about?”
Too bad. Spike, get my notebook, I want this recorded for posterity! We are making another Alicorn.”
“Sunset! HELP!”
“Don’t worry, I’m the control in this experiment.”
“....LUNA HELP!”
“Be brave dearest!”
"Nope"
I wasn't expecting this for the next chapter, though that just made it all the more enjoyable. Poor Page, how do you defeat an creature in its own element?
(I believe the answer is you don't, you have to either change the element or cheat)
I don't believe this word should be here.
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That being said, this is how I thought a fight between these two would go but I will say that I never expected page to channel his inner Naruto.
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I think that's why some fans have referred to her as Mega Mare.
If Equestria was run by Wargaming.net she'd receive a buff in the next patch.
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What fic was that if you dont mind me asking?
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(While being dragged away)
"NO TRAITOR TRAITORRRRRRRRRRRR"
"Oh relax page its nothing serious."
"IM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FEEL MY ANYTHING TOMORROW."
*Door slams shut*
I agree wholeheartedly
8771794
I'm intrigued, what fic is that?
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"The only people who beat her" doesn't mean much when you remember this isn't some battle shounen manga. Twilight Sparkle doesn't get into magic 1v1 fights every other day so trying to say there aren't many who beat her isn't selling it.
Also, Twilight's backstory has her being taught magic which is an incredibly broad and vague statement. Not combat. I highly doubt Celestia taught her anything beyond basic self-defense.
And is Starlight Glimmer "bullshit" or is it you guys are being salty that the writers actually bothered expanding the world and broke your headcanons about Twilight being unparalleled by anyone who isn't some sort of ancient being because that's ridiculous.
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glimmer is more powerful than celestia and luna in canon right now...
as for combat magic, twilight seems pretty versed in lots of defensive spells and offensive, she just never needs to use the offensive ones because there's always a solution that is less violent like rocking a cosmic death bear to sleep
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Good one
8771794
if you ever remember what it's called, please tell me
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When Starlight is capable of raising the sun or moon by herself then yes shes more powerful than them.
Twilight hasnt show any versatility in combat other than shooting a generic beam and making a generic magic shield.
Where are you seeing all these spells she's supposedly well versed in?
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Well, it's just more frustrating that Twilight can't actually raise any celestial bodies, unless she has literally the power of the other three princesses.
And when Starlight and Twilight fight (discounting their first confrontation), Twiight can't beat her outright.
My first thought was that Twilight was a different sort of alicorn, but taking on the others' magic negates that.
The only reasonable explanation is that Twilight needs to grow into her power. (My personal headcanon, since she does seem to be growing gradually.)
The only mistake they are making with Starlight is how Twilight is no longer "slightly stronger," like in their first confrontation.
TL;DR, I like Starlight, but they did make her OP compared to Twilight. (Especially since Twilight's the famous nerd for magic.)
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Hmm... might have been Battle Magic, by Gaekub...? Or maybe that's not exactly the one I'm remembering. Vaguely similar, though.
...What? Twilight has no meaningful combat skill of any kind regardless of her power or spell library. Page should have trounced her easily with the tactics and techniques he's learned from Luna.
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I think the intent is that tactics and planning hit a limit when you are doing fisticuffs vs M1-Abrams.
He doesn't seem to have enough tricks to really cheat his way to victory. At least not yet.
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Thanks, though darn. It seems to be abandoned
This could be taken sooo out of context...
Twilight could use any spell she comes actoss..? Damn, that’s godlike lol
Spellsteal! Twilight is best Grand Mag-g-gus!
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Preeetty sure that was deliberate.
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That IS just so wrong.
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Ikr?
oh, that made me think of "the Twilight Enigma": there's a scene where Twilight copies Tirek's magic-eating ability, and uses it to steal Discord's magic!
BUT it makes her act Chaotically...
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Nah, she is this universe's version of Po.
Why repeating how trained MC is and how much time and effort he's putting in it
just so some little librarian girl could trash him around?
And buffed up special kind of 'alicorn of lies' illusions are crap as well?
Years into the story and the main character is still worthless in every confrontation he's in.
Not saying I want anime power fantasy but perhaps ONE little thing that he is not shit at would be nice.
yeah no, dreams don't count, nothing more lame than that
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Dreams most certainly do count... But I agree some on the illusions. I'm just going to go with he's not focusing on the 'father of lies' portion of his domain, and the fact that he's only had magic for a few years, and likely doesn't have the capacity of time to really sit down and tinker with his illusions
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His cutie mark is a scroll. His mastery over a lot of other subjects are already counted as really good.
Plus, Twilight regularly got into trouble that includes her fighting something from the Everfree.
Twilight Sparkle can be badass if she wants to
If twilight ever gets physical combat and magical combat training she will be unstoppable
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I mean she has magical training , you probably mean Combat training
Twilight is the epitome of complete arcane bullshit
I'm not saying Page should have won but the way Twilight did is dumb. She's creative but to this level never really seen and as far as I know her only experience is fights is against monster's. Her victory was almost to clean
Now... Next lesson carnal combat spells
It's easy to see Twilight dominating in a spell casting duel, so Page should add physical attack. A hoove slap the 'dat flank' for example
Ok I know twilight can learn a spell from watching but I do think there is more to it those spells she learn seemed simple easy to learn. But I don't know there has to be more to it then she can simply learn a spell from just watching it can't be that easy.