Twilight lets out a long sigh as she follows behind Spike as they walk around Canterlot. Her mind thinking about all that she’s done and what her plans were when she came to Canterlot. Before, it all was so clear to her. All she needed to do was gain Anon’s forgiveness. In her mind it was like a magic problem that could be solved. That with the right words and actions, she could get Anon to realise how sorry she was. Yet these new feelings have enlightened her. This is a road she must travel down and perhaps at the end she will find an answer.
She worries if she can carry a weight like this for long. Anon has been doing it for over a year and it must’ve been hard for him. To keep walking the streets of Ponyville, acting as if nothing was wrong, all for the sake of his friends. He’s strong and yet Twilight knows how weak he must feel. To live with this burden day by day. It’s just one of many things he must carry.
Twilight doesn’t want to think about the things her friends did but it’s a thought worth keeping in mind. He must be in so much pain... For once, Twilight feels as if she understands Anon and it’s painful to wonder if on the inside he’s in agony, looking for some way to lift all the burden on his shoulders.
“Where was the place again?” Spike asks.
Twilight snaps out of her darker thoughts as she notices Spike looking her way.
“I think it’s a few stores down.” Twilight remarks.
“Nice!” Spike says with excitement.
Twilight takes a deep breath in and slowly lets it out. She just stepped hoof onto this road, she still has a long way to go.
Anon is sitting beside Celestia as she talks to various ponies. His thoughts are currently thinking about other things at the moment. His luck is finally running out and it’s been a long time coming. This entire Twilight thing can’t be ignored anymore. Now that he’s back in the castle, he will be seeing her more often. Breakfast, lunch and even dinner. She may even show up at the royal bathhouse for all he knows. He’s being pushed into a corner with very few options to take.
Leaving is out of the question. Before he became friends with the sisters, it would’ve been an easy choice. Now, the thought of leaving them, of being alone, fills him with a pain he’s never felt before. Anon looks over at Celestia as she smiles to her subject, her princess mask hiding the tired expression she feels. It’s odd how easily Anon can see this now. Then a thought comes to mind... Could he be the reason she’s so tired?
Anon turns away from her as he peers off into the distance. The thought is disturbing but in many ways makes sense. The fact of the matter is, he’s never once asked her how she felt about the entire Twilight situation. While it’s true that he didn’t ask her to punish Twilight, he never did talk to her about how she felt during the trial. Celestia has been watching over Twilight for more years than Anon has known her.
He remembers Celestia telling him how she hoped Twilight would drop the whole ‘Princess’ thing. Clearly they are close. Close enough that Celestia wanted to become friends with Twilight, to no longer be teacher and student. So what did she feel during that punishment? How does she feel now? It must’ve hurt her deeply and Anon’s the cause of that pain.
Anon grits his teeth... He told them that he’d try to be a better friend but he’s failed again. His fear of Twilight has become toxic to his thoughts. The constant questions, worries and what ifs. Even when Celestia told him she was bringing Twilight to the castle, he couldn’t understand it. He felt betrayed in a way, even though deep down he knew Celestia was doing it for the right reasons.
Because of his fears, he didn’t care what Celestia thought. All he knew was that he couldn’t be around Twilight. That he would be hurt eventually if she was around. Celestia accepted this and put herself through stress for his sake. Anon is angry at himself. He never wanted to hurt Celestia and yet now it’s abundantly clear to him that he has. Even if she doesn’t admit it, he knows he has.
Anon looks up to see the pony that was speaking to Celestia walk out. Celestia looks over at Anon and gives him a genuine smile, not like the kind she gives her subjects. He doesn’t deserve her kindness or friendship. Not with what he’s done.
“Anon?” Celestia notices that something is bothering Anon. “Are you doing alright?”
This can’t go on forever. It hurts so much inside for Anon, far more than his fear of Twilight. He rests his hand on Celestia’s hoof, more to calm himself than anything else. Celestia would be ecstatic about something like this happening but can sense that something is troubling Anon deeply.
“Tia, I have something important I want to ask you.”
“I’m listening.”
Anon takes a moment to steady his thoughts as he decides to get this over with.
“Do you want me to forgive Twilight?”
Silence. That’s all Anon hears. It feels as if time has slowed but no matter how much time has passed Celestia doesn’t say a word. So, he decides to lay it out on the table for her.
“I never did ask you how you felt during that trial.” Anon states. “You’ve known Twilight for years and I never thought about how that affected you. I was afraid and because of that fear I’ve hurt you. I don’t know what to do but this is all I can offer.” Anon locks eye with Celestia. “Just for you, Tia... If you ask me, I will forgive Twilight.”
Anon sits there, eyes locked with Celestia. She looks shocked as she sits there in silence. There’s nothing else for Anon to say, so he sits there and waits. For Celestia, everything sinks in for her. Her shock falls to a smile as she closes her eyes. Anon is always carrying so many worries. Even now, he can only think about how his choices have affected her. Perhaps that’s why she loves him so much.
She does the only thing that comes natural for her. She leans over and pulls Anon to her chest, wrapping her wings around him.
“It must be tiring to burden yourself so much.” Celestia speaks softly.
“I’m sure we both know the feeling.” Anon states.
“I do. It almost becomes routine after a while. Just another thing to add to the list.” Celestia looks down at Anon as he looks up at her. “Though recently, you’ve helped lift some of that weight.” Anon looks a bit confused but Celestia continues. “I know it’s hard for oneself to see their own accomplishments but you’ve done many things to help me and my sister. Even if you can’t see it, just having you by my side is enough to ease my pain.”
“But what abou-”
Celestia rests a wing tip on his lips.
“I would never ask you to forgive Twilight if it wasn’t your choice.” Celestia lets out a bit of a sad sigh. “I will admit, some of the things you said is true. It hurt me deeply to punish Twilight.” Anon tries to look away but she brings him back to facing her. “Because I failed her as a teacher and in turn that failure hurt you.”
“But I don’t blame you for that.” Anon says. “There was no way you could’ve know something like that would’ve happened.”
Celestia can only smile at his words as she nuzzles him. “You are right but she is my student and I have neglected things to help her grow as a pony. Because of this, I find the need to teach her, to help her understand. Perhaps one day you will forgive her but I wouldn’t want it to be something you force.” She stops nuzzling him and rests a hoof on his chest. “It must come from here and nowhere else.”
Anon can’t look away from Celestia’s eyes. Why does he feel so much love and understanding when he looks at her? It’s almost as if he can do no wrong and that everything he says has so much meaning to her. He doesn’t deserve a friend like her. Yet, to not have her would be far too painful for him to imagine. So, with a long sigh of defeat, he simply accepts what is happening.
“I don’t know what to say.” Anon admits.
“Don’t worry. Nothing else needs to be said.”
Anon may not have words to say but he decides to just hold onto her tightly. Where words fail him, he can only hope she understands how much he appreciates her.
Luna took notice of her captains mood last night and decided now was as good time as any to pay her a visit to make sure she is doing alright. It’s been awhile since Luna stepped hoof into the barracks. As soon as she does all of the knights within take immediate notice of who is standing there. Many of them quickly stop what they are doing so that they can solute their princess. It’s sad for her to admit that she doesn’t recognise many faces here.
Thestrals are very rare and few are within her ranks. Taking a look around she notices varying ponies and even races. It seems Blossom has expanded the knights. It’s comforting for Luna to see that Blossom has been hard at work for all these years.
“At ease.” Luna speaks to everyone facing her.
Without another word they relax. Luna came here for a reason, so she walks over to her captain's door and enters inside. She finds Blossom behind a large stack of papers. Her ears perk up but she never looks away from her work.
“Morning princess. Any reason you’ve decided to stop by?” She asks, moving her signed paper to one stack and getting a fresh one from another.
“Just a few things that concern me.” Luna closes the door behind her.
Blossom sets her quill down to properly face Luna.
“Is it about Anon?”
Luna shakes her head. “Not today. I’ve actually come to see how you’re doing. You were acting a bit down last night.”
Seems Luna is as perceptive as ever. Not that Blossom is surprised.
“Was lost in thought, Princess. It won’t affect how well I protect Anon.”
Luna walks over and takes a seat.
“I know that and no need for the formalities, Blossom. It’s just us after all.”
Blossom drops her airs and relaxes a bit. She even rotates her head some to ease the stiffness in her neck from all the paperwork.
“Just seeing everyone there brought up some old memories.” Blossom answers.
Luna understand what Blossom is speaking of. She was there when her partner became sick and was there when he passed away. Luna can never forget the cries of her captain as she clung onto her mate while he lay on his deathbed. It’s one of the few things that haunts her to this very day. Not to mention that is was only weeks after when Nightmare Moon took over. It must’ve been hard on Blossom.
“How was he?” Luna asks somberly.
Blossom lets out a sigh. “A bit dirty but I cleaned him up and set flowers out. I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t visited him in awhile.”
“I know I offered it before but I could cast a cleansing spell to keep things clean.”
Blossom shakes her head. “No, thank you. Going back actually helped a bit. I’ll be sure to visit more often.”
“That’s good to hear.”
“Enough of this sad stuff. How about you? You seem to have a lot on your mind.”
Luna doesn’t wish to press if Blossom wants to change the subject.
“Well, there’s plenty to think about with Anon.”
Blossom rolls her eyes. “Spare me the details, I’ve got work to do.”
“Come now. Allow a mare to indulge a little, Blossom.”
“I swear you’re like a mare in heat.”
Luna feels a blush grow on her muzzle.
“He makes me feel like that.”
Blossom just shakes her head. “Can’t you talk to your sister about this stuff?”
“She and Anon are busy at the moment. You’re the only pony I’ve got. Just a few minutes. Please?”
Blossom looks at Luna with an unamused look.
“Fine.”
“Good! So, what do you like about Anon?”
“Really? I don’t like him that way, Luna.”
“That doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate something about him.”
Blossom takes a moment to think.
“I guess I like how straightforward he is.”
Luna nods. “Yes! I too adore that about him!”
“Yet, he also knows when to bend the truth for his friends.”
“He is selfless in that regard.”
“So, um... What do you like about him?”
“Mmm?” Luna raises a brow at Blossom. “Well, I happened to see what I liked last night as we bathed.”
Luna covers the huge blush on her face as she starts giggling. Blossom can only sit there in awe of what she sees. Never in her life has she seen Luna act like this before. She must really be in love with the guy for her to practically turn into a school filly with a crush.
“Oh, just thinking about it makes me wa-”
“Alright, few minutes are up!” Blossom shouts with her face now covered in a blush as she gets up from her seat and pushes Luna out.
“I swear just the thought makes me quiver in antici-”
Blossom slams the door to her office shut. That mare is seriously going to fall into her heat is she keeps those thoughts up. Still, Blossom can’t stop herself from smiling some. A small chuckle leaving her as she walks back over to her desk. It’s nice to see her princess look as happy as she is. She deserves it.
Twilight and Spike both enter into Anon’s store. She’s surprised to see how many different species of customers he has, each group talking amongst themselves as they enjoy whatever they’ve purchased. Spike is already walking to the front register but Twilight peers around the room, checking to see if she recognises anypony. So far she doesn’t.
She steps further into the store and follows Spike. He’s looking through the glass display with a large smile. Twilight looks the items over as well. Everything she sees looks familiar and yet also different. She wonders what could possibly be different about Anon’s candy? It’s enough to draw a crowd and is priced affordably too. Compared to the shops around Canterlot, this is practically a steal.
“Welcome.” A voice calls out.
Twilight looks up from the display and comes face to face with Lyra. However, her gaze is vacant, as if she’s staring past Twilight. Twilight can feel her heart start to race. She knew that his friends worked here, she was prepared for the looks but this isn’t what she expected.
“What would you like?” Lyra asks in a monotone voice.
“Can I have the triple chocolate cookie?” Spike asks.
Lyra doesn’t say anything as she brings up his order. She then looks up and makes eye contact with Twilight. That distant look still there.
“You?”
There’s something wrong here. That much Twilight can sense. She can only speculate it has something to do with Anon. Maybe they had a falling out? Twilight shakes her head. It’s none of her business.
“I’ll have the gummy worms.” Twilight says after glancing at one of the more exotic items.
“Very well.”
Lyra packs their order and sets it onto the counter. Twilight pays the bits and takes the bag from Lyra. Lyra doesn’t even say anything as she walks into the kitchen.
“Did Lyra seem a bit strange?” Spike asks.
“She’s probably tired from all these customers.” Twilight lies.
Spike nods. “There are a lot of creatures here. So where to now?”
Twilight looks up to a clock on the wall. She feels the fur on her body stand on end. It’s almost time for her to meet with Luna.
“We should head back to the castle. It’s almost time for my training.”
“Ugh, fine.”
As Twilight walks, Spike fishes out his cookie and takes a large bite. His eye light up as he looks over at Twilight.
“This is really good!”
As they walk towards the castle, Twilight decides to pull one of the gummy worms from the bag and pop it into her mouth. Her eyes widen as she experiences something she’s never had before. The flavor and texture was so unique and oddly satisfying.
“Whoa... Are they really that good?” Spike asks.
Twilight looks over at Spike and notices that her vision is a bit blurry. She brings up a hoof to her eyes and feels her fur become damp. Why is she crying? For many reasons. When she ate that candy, it made her realise that she knows nothing about Anon. All those times they talked, nothing of it was about him. She just wanted to know about his people and their technology.
Even as she heard the rumors about him in Ponyville. She didn’t care. Brushing it off as nothing and continuing her work as usual. Never did she think that he could make something so sweet and delicate. Yet, when she tasted that candy... She felt as if she found something. Faint as it may be, she feels some hope return. She looks down at Spike.
“Who knew Anon made such great things?”
“Yeah, we should stop by more often!”
“I’d like that.”
With everything Twilight has been feeling, she feels prepared for whatever lies ahead.
Celestia and Anon walk down the streets of Canterlot towards a specific ponies home. She looks in the corner of her eye and notices that Anon is still deep in thought. What he asked earlier has also taken a good part of her mind. Anon would really forgive Twilight if she asked him? The notion almost flies in the face of what she knows about him. Not that he’s selfish but that he’s rather adamant in what he believe is right and wrong. Though she meant what she said. She would never force him to forgive Twilight if that was his choice.
However, her mind does wander to other things. If she were to tell him that she loved him and wanted to be with him... Would he agree? The idea doesn’t fill Celestia with joy as she would hope but instead she worries. Would he says yes because he too loves her or would he only agree because he believes it would make her happy? As much as she wants to be with him, just like with Twilight, she doesn’t want to force him to do something he doesn’t believe in.
Celestia’s heart winces some. She never expected this to be easy but now she will have to consider if Anon’s reciprocation is due to mutual love or his sense of loyalty. Perhaps being upfront when the time comes would prove fruitful? Celestia shakes her head. There’s no reason to bother thinking about that now. There are many things she would like to plan before popping the question to him. Right now, she just wants to ensure that Anon is following what his heart says.
“So where are we headed?” Anon asks bringing Celestia from her thoughts.
“Fancy Pant’s home. He will be the coordinator for this years Wonder festival.”
“Wonder festival?” Anon asks with a raised brow.
Celestia nods. “It only happens once every ten years. Ponies and creatures from all around push themselves to the limits in various challenges. Medals are given out and our judges are no other than the Wonderbolts themselves.”
“Sounds like the olympics.”
“What’s that?”
“Human version.” Anon answers simply enough.
“Well, you’ll have to tell me all about it when we’re alone.”
“I guess. So, other than medals do the contestants get anything else?”
“That’s up to the judges. Sometimes contestants are accepted into the Wonderbolts. I’ve even taken in a few to join the Royal guard. There are endless possibilities. As for anything official, no, just the medals.”
“That’s cool.”
Celestia finds they are already at Fancy Pant’s home. She walks up to the front door but before she can even knock the door opens wide.
“Good to see you, Princess!” Fancy Pants says with a smile.
“Thank you for taking the time to speak with me.”
“It’s no trouble at all!” He then looks over to see Anon. “Oh and I see you’ve brought this young fellow. What was it again?” He rubs his chin in thought. “Anon! Yes, I do remember you. Now, I’m positive we’ve never officially introduced ourselves.” Fancy extends his hoof. “Fancy Pants the third.”
Anon takes his hoof and gives it a shake. “Anon the human.”
“Where are my manners!” Fancy moves from the doorway. “Please, come in. We have much to discuss about the upcoming event.”
Celestia looks down at Anon and gives him a smile while gesturing her head for him to step in first. He just shrugs and walks ahead of her. Celestia hopes that this event will be something Anon will enjoy.
Twilight is standing before the library. Spike is by her side as she takes one last breath before stepping inside. Waiting for her is Princess Luna. She’s using her magic to place large stacks of books onto the table where Twilight studies. She pauses and turns over to Twilight. She looks between her and Spike for a moment before staring directly at Twilight.
“Take a seat.” Luna speaks calmly.
Twilight doesn’t say anything as she walks over and sits before the table. Luna pulls a book from the stack and places it in front of Twilight.
“Read.”
Twilight is a bit confused. Besides her direct nature, she can’t sense any hatred coming from Luna. It’s as if she’s actually here to teach her. Twilight takes the book and opens to the first page. She’s surprised to find it’s the tale of the two sisters. Confused, she looks up at Luna.
“Um... What does this have to do with my studies?”
Luna raises a brow. “Isn’t it obvious?” Twilight shakes her head no. “Nightmare Moon was undoubtedly evil but there was a reason why she did what she did... Figure out why and perhaps you will enlighten yourself.”
“Understand... Nightmare Moon?” Twilight is almost baffled by the suggestion.
“Is that too difficult a task? Should we start from the basics?” Luna floats over a foals book on feelings. “Perhaps this is more your speed?”
Alright, that hurt... She looks back up to Luna.
“No... Just give me some time.”
“You have until I return to come up with an answer.” Luna walks towards the door but stops as she looks down at Spike. “Come with me, Twilight must do this alone.”
“Oh, uh... Ok?” He follows behind Luna as they both enter into the hall and leave Twilight alone. He continues to follow her as she walks somewhere he isn’t familiar with. “So, where are we going?”
Luna stops once she’s far enough. She looks down at Spike, almost with a pitying look just before she steels herself over.
“Spike, I have something I need to tell you.”
“Anything, Princess.”
“I think it’s time someone told you why Twilight had to leave Ponyville.”
Oh fuck.
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Well... It'll help twilight realize exactly what Luna's getting at with her question...
Luna that b**** is gonna pull her last support out from under her. Are we sure nightmare moon was banished. I can't wait to see the fallout from celestia once she figures out the mental mistreatment Luna been doing to twilight she gave her the punishment she earned no magic and being pulled outta ponyvile. Lunas just being evil at this point ... yes Twilights mistreatment was bad to anon but it was like 1 day of strapped down questioning she's been mistreating twilight for alot longer then that and hers wasn't even the worst offence. At this point i call anon an agent of discord he was obviously placed here to sow disharmony amongst the princesses and the elements not only that but the princesses ostracized most of the bearers by choosing anon over them their main defense for their country thus neutering themselves. I don't see the princesses choosing anon over the well being of their entire country no matter how much they love him. I'd see them moving him to canterlot and leaving the elements alone in ponyvile.
-PATION!
Okay, so I saw this mistake twice, but it should be "Fancy Pants' home" due to the fact that "Fancy Pants" name ends with an s.
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Agreed.
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ahh you beat me to it. good show man.
...*ahem*
LUNA!
WAT R U DOIN!?
LUNA!
STAHP!
Oh man, were getting closer.
Does this mean there's one more chapter?
Oh, Boy...
I'M GETTING EXITEEEED!!!
I know someone has to tell Spike, but the problem with Luna telling Spike is that she might end up giving him a biased account and potentially turning him against Twilight. This could go horribly, as if Spike doesn't bother to listen to Twilight, he may renounce her, or run away or something like that, and absolutely devastate her. Luna has to be careful if she doesn't want to destroy Twilight, which would be poor form, considering Twilight helped Luna on multiple occasions. And sure, a few good acts don't fix a crime, but nor do a few bad acts make a person horrible.
Luna NO
That is NOT your call to make
Oh, oh no. 😰
For someone who went mad and tried to destroy the world twice and was then forgiven for everything, Luna has absolutely no right to condemn anyone else. For anything. Ever. She should be a paragon of forgiveness and graciousness.
I do not admire her here.
salute
-
About time. Spike would have found out eventually anyway.
And Luna, you lovestruck dirty (old) mare, you!
Goddamnit Luna, that man ain't yours!
I was highly skeptical at first about the direction you were taking this story but I can't help vut think "why can't I hold all these feeeeeelings!"
Edit: *Agressively ships AnonXCelestia*
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twice i would hardly count the second time considering the comical attempt at such a coup. also, the extent to what luna did before her banishment is never addressed. the major difference here is that luna served her punishment twilight quite literally got a slap on the wrist for
1: wrongful imprisonment
2: tourture
3: non-consented experimentation
4: attempted murder (depends on what the elements would do to a human)
two of those combined is nearly life in prison
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While I agree that Luna is going over the line here. The fact however remains that Twilight tortured Anon and has unknowingly (until recently) broken him with such a severe case of Ptsd. Putting the blame on the Sisters or Anon is akin to saying that torture and mistreatment is fine and dandy.
Do we draw closer to the end?2
...I have nothing to say. Except one thing: Luna has earned my hatred here for possibly alienating Spike from Twilight. That's all
Luna is being a dick.
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Let's not pull apologist crap for Luna here.
She did very wrong twice.
She served her punishment for what she did wrong the first time. She got off with at the very best a slap on the wrist for the second time. People generally get worse punishments for doing the same thing that got you into trouble again.
Twilight did wrong but for Luna to be the asshole, especially to her savior, comes of as incredibly hypocritcal and petty.
No matter how this turns out, this is going to be extremely interesting in both the short- and long-term. Please, don't keep us in suspense for too long.
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Would it really be so bad if Anon was an agent of discord? Sometimes, for the good of all, the status quo must be upended, less stagnation set in. Too much order can be just as dangerous as too much chaos, and what is better suited for this role than a member of a species that represents order, chaos, and neutrality all in one package?
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Two wrongs don't make a right and Luna done way worse to twilight then she's done to anon ...... she secretly threatened her because if celestia found out she'd be pissed ... what twilight did was through stupidity and how she was raised .... which was poorly .... the author doesn't go into her upbringing so it gives the impression she was raised like the show ... being tutored a few hours then being left alone to her studies .... in other words no social development.... Hymn whos fault is that .....can I get a celestia whut whut and her inept parents. But besides that the princesses love for anon has now compromised the safety of their nation. Three of the elements probably won't work now ... twis unstable probably suicidal ... rainbow probably would give the princesses the bird if asked to help .... lol the bird .... and rarity business is probably ruined thus ruining any goodwill she may have had. All because they wanted anon which is funny because as a character he's not that interesting. Just my own opinion I just can't stand him he's so angry one minute and whinny the next like the whole world's against him. Guess what anon that's life it's a whole lotta shit with a splattering of good ... he has two princesses that loves him people out to protect him financially stable and he still bitches.
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Food for thought the crystal hearts killed more ponies then the elements ..... It just dawned on me .... the elements purify or imprison.... the heart killed sombre. If the elements killed things i don't think twi and her friends would use them could you see fluttershy killing anything. Hymn rainbow was playing jokes but was ignorant of humans vulnerability to lightning .. if she finished flight school I wouldn't give her a pass but she followed fluttershy to ponyvile and never finished ... the author never said anything concerning past so we can only go off the show. Anon could have approached the mayor to stop rainbow if he didn't wanna goto her friends. Raritys a douche in this story and what she did to anon was attempted murder or worse slavery to diamond dogs. Twis only guilty of holding someone against there will and illegal experimentation. Anon knows what would have happened to a pony coming to earth and should be glad ponies don't dissect humans like a human would to a pony. Fluttershy is a victim she got assaulted ... yes we know angels a jack ass but she walked in to him throwing angel across the room..... she had the right to defend her animals with the stare which is also non lethal by the way and in her own domicile. Pinkie should have used a cupcake not a rock *shrugs* . Ajs guilty of assault plain and simple lunas punishment was fair.
Wow didn't expect another chapter so soon. I understand what Luna is trying to do with teaching Twilight, but part of me is wondering if this will make her kind of a hypocrite since we've seen how she treats her other self?
Spike's view on some 'unchanging' truths are about to come crashing down to burn.
Ouch.
Ooooh... No....
Spike, say goodbye to that childlike innocence
I made a very unmanly noise and flailed my arms around like I was having a seizure with that ending! Jeebus.
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5/6 of her saviors tortured her friend, 2 of which could arguably be charged with attempted murder. but yeah, i guess we forgot that.
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the elements imprisoned immortals, not a mortal. we dont know what would have happened to him a second time. its literally russian roulette at this point
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No one forgot anything.
The reality is that Luna is being a vindictive bitch to someone that really helped her and consider she got forgiven for what she's done...
She should be paying it forward in terms of forgiveness and helping Twilight be better not tearing her life down.
Luna understand what Blossom is speaking of.
understood
Not to mention that is was
is - it
fall into her heat is she keeps
is = if
Hey man, great chapter as always. Great to see a new one, hope to see more soon.
MM
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I don't see how Psychological Abuse is worst then torture. I really don't see that. Twilights character in this story and the show itself shows us how unatural she is, the two best examples come from the show itself. The Want it Need it episode where Twilight broke down to insanity because she couldn't write something for the princess. And the Pinkie sense episode where she experimented on Pinkie pie. Normal people don't do this and even with an upbringing like the one we can assume she had. That hardly explains the lack of morals and this suppressed side of Twilight.
In the first story, Anon tells Celestia that the Twilight he saw, is the real Twilight. That may just be forshadowing but it can also be taken litterly. Twilights Subconscious is all kinds of messed. Because she was born that way not raised. Today Celestia has kinda clued in, but to me she loves Twilight to much to send the girl to see a professional. This depression Twilight is now going through to me is just the tip of the girls problems. No amount of love and forgivness could help it.
As for Luna, yea I agree what Luna is doing is idiotic, but she's hardly tortured Twilight. And for Celestia to look away from the mistreatment of a Citizen of her lands. Commited by the heroes of said lands would go agaisnt all she stands for. Besides, the Elements will move on to other ponies once the main Six die and they are only used agasint seemingly god like beings. So, Celestia punishing the Mane Six for doing some pretty bad things in the case of Twilight and Rarity. One of them doing so Maliciously. You can't fault the Sun Horse for doing the Benevolent thing. Its not like they got executed.
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It was never implied he was tortured she took readings with that freaky machine so unless you wanna cry torture when your doctor takes your temperature blood pressure or blood sample I'd hardly call it that. Its why I called it illegal experimentation and confinement. It was more psychological due to his claustrophobia. That's why he's scared of her he associates her with confinement.
Your second argument just justifies what I was saying her parents and celestia took a hands off approach if they had gotten her help earlier it could have been avoided so their NEGLECT lead to this or they could have at least lessened her impulsive actions.if she'd received proper psychiatric counselling that is. Her friends attitudes by dismissing her worries led to the want it need it incident and since her prior psyche needs weren't addressed by her parents and celestia means their all at fault that episode and pinkie hardly looked like she was in excrutiationg agonizing blood curdling pain in that chair it's no different then a ekg machine it just spits out info it collects. Like I said earlier his pain was more psychol ogical due to the confinement which yes was bad but she didn't make it her mission to make his life miserable like lunar doing to her.
No what I'm saying is like we both agree she loves twilight so she punished twilight by giving her the sentence she recieved. When she finds out Luna is stIill punishing her she'll be pissed. Yah she's not physically punishing her but psychological punishments still count I mean there's only so many ways of saying I'll end you if you go near anon. Plus concerning the elements... Yah good luck with that it only took them like a 1000 years to pick bearers. Depends how the author wants to play them. Are they connected to individuals or does the group gotta have a connection. Example sunset shimmer would make magic but twilights friends don't know her would they still work or does the author want them to. That's just a example not gonna name new prospects for each element kindness laughter and honesty won't leave there bearers they never went against their element so that still leaves 3 that they'd have to be close enough to activate with and when you think about it dash hasn't been disloyal just stupid. So when tirek comes around good luck getting the chest open without dashes rarities or twis keys. Dash won't get the pin from spitfire rarity will probably be blacklisted so no invite to the runway competition where she meets coco. Twi will never become a alicorn since Luna damaged her to the point she's probably gonna hang herself any chapter now.
Oh by the way I just wanna apologize to everyone ... my statements are just my own interpretation of the story I'm not trying to force my view on anyone. If my views are at odds with someone elses please don't take to much offense im just stubborn. LoL
Wow, ok.
So Twilight is finally reaching a point where she understands her error and actually wants to make things right. And Luna is going to turn Spike against her, one of the only remaining things Twilight trusts.
So she imprisoned Anon and ran experiments on him to sate her curiosity, over the top but not malicious. Once confronted with the major error in her logic, she not only wants to correct the wrong, but repair what she can. Wonder how many humans can say the same...
Twilight has always struck me as somepony who seeks a problem out and solves it. The context is what's so scewed not the intention. Twilight needs a lesson on boundaries and consent before testing, not complete shunning by everything she cares about. That's the exact opposite of constructive correction.
But at this point I wonder if Luna even cares about that. Celestia is too focused on ruling and babying Annon. And Luna is just out there, like way out there. It's one thing to care about someone and want to come to their defense, but Luna is litteraly putting Annon above everyone else, completely. Celestial is almost as bad, but at least she's not completely ignoring everything else entirely.
This obsession of hers is going to end one of two ways: she ends up destroying the lives of anyone who looks at Annon wrong in turn alienating herself from everyone and everypony in a mad attempt to "protect" Annon, or she will finally realise what her focus in Annon is doing to her and tone it down a couple hundred notches.
Most likely the fist one unfortunately
This honestly has nothing to do with the severity of the crimes Twilight and friends or Luna. Both are bad. Both deserve rather large punishments. But from the start I feel as if the sisters dished out the worst possible punishments they could do and where it hurts the most. Not because it warns of the dangers of treating strange creatures unfairly, but because it treats "their" strange creature unfairly.
A judge passes sentences without bias. But Celestia have done exactly the opposite.
The whole thing only shows what can happen when a personal situation is escalated with royal power. Bias, and one sided justice.
But no one will ever be able to realize this, because the sisters will just silence them, because that's threatening Annon, and no one is allowed to ruin their special somepony...
Oh go cry me a river.
Honestly its stuff like this that breeds Villans and revenge.
But that won't happen because that would mean Annon is wrong, and he can't be wrong because he's Annon, and Annon gets the Mares, plain and simple.
Feel free to disagree, but Bias cannot be denied! Muahahahaha!!!
Well, on to the next chapter then
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I have some thoughts on how they are doing. Greedy is doing ok but is sad she lost her commissions from Fancy Pants. Thunder Murderer is depressed she won't be a Wonderbolt and slowly festering more hate for Anon. Applejack.. I feel like she is more or less normal but is sadden from what she did. She seems the most down to earth about this whole situation. That's just me.
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I can appreciate this statement.
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And after reading all the comments I want to express my viewpoints on what I read. this may be opposite of a few others.
I am 100% on Luna's side here. The lesson that Luna is trying to produce in my opinion is that "monsters are not born they are made." and some lessons have to be learned the hard way. I was starting to get really annoyed that no one told spike what is going on and legitimately getting pissed about it. I do not see that this is removing the support structure only, only giving spike clarity on why his whole life was turned upside down in an instant. What happens is up to spike to understand. What Luna SHOULD DO is help him understand that twilight needs help. The possibility that Luna can give him the reason why he had to leave Ponyville without guiding him would just simply be cruel. which I don't think will happen.
It seems there are some that are missing this point of Luna's lesson. There are certainly questions that need to be asked and answered that can be formed like this.
Why? And why it is wrong!
Having point of view or perception of the other end of the spectrum can often lead to having an epiphany of sorts and attempt to make oneself a better person. This is in fact how morals can be formed. here are some RL examples.
And I am sorry if this becomes political this is not my intent but to produce a point of view.
Why does the middle east hate western civilization?
Why do we have Neo Nazi?
Why does North Korea want to build a nuke?
Why is honor killings accepted in India?
Why do we have mass shootings in America?
Why are these questions viewed as horrible in one culture but completely accepted in another?
How we develop in a society can push our point of view and build morality in that culture. What I perceive Luna to be doing is teaching a viewpoint of pony society that has been neglected by Twilight's family and Princess Celestia. Feelings! Understanding her own and those around her can undoubtedly give twilight the help she desperately needs before she can become harmful to her self as well as others. Depression can be the worst monster of them all.
I can see why this may be perceived as vindictive. But remember this little scene from the first story?
Tell me what did it take for Twilight to understand? Sometimes in life the best lessons on being a better person come from the harshest places. And quite honestly I am trying really hard to have any sympathy for the Main 6. Pinkie, Flutter, Apple are those that I can see their view and feel a bit for them. but Twilight, Rainbow, and Rarity I feel got off too easy and really don't deserve a second thought. that is why when getting arrested by our law enforcement they state IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE.
Thanks for taking the time to read.
TL;DR - It all comes down to point of view.
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Luna long since stopped trying to teach a lesson.
She's threatened Twilight Sparkle.
She's currently insulting her.
And while Twilight is currently at the lowest point in her life, Luna is about to rip one of the last remaining supports from under Twilight Sparkle who is already destroying herself.
She's being just as much of a monster as Twilight was if not worse.
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I disagree. If I was in Luna's Hooves I would not have bothered to teach Twilight anything. I would not have bothered to help in any way. Luna is attempting to help despite the anger Luna has toward twilight. what Luna is doing in my view is what Celestia should have done, what Twilight should have done. has anyone asked what Spike feels about this situation? are we going to ignore spike entirely on this? Are we going to ignore that Spikes life has also been ruined becomes of somepony's choices? Especially when our Little Dragon friend has done NOTHING wrong. He was in fact Anon's friend.
I applaud Luna for finally acknowledging something that should have done since the start of this mess. Is she removing Twilight's support structure? I don't think so. I think based upon the characterization of Luna within this story is to help Spike understand things are messed up and Twilight needs help.
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That would literally make you one of the most ungrateful people I've ever seen considering if you were in Luna's hooves you would be shitting on the person who freed you from that evil alter-ego.
You would basically be shitting on the same person who also defeated the Spirit of Chaos that you and your sister couldn't defeat anymore thanks to your jealousy stint separating you from the elements.
You expect me to believe that she's going to help Twilight? The person who has been incredibly hostile to her. The person who has just insulted her?
Yeah. Right. Get Shining Armor to tell Spike. Or Cadance. Not her. The likelyhood that she's going to tell it in a way that is definitely not to remove Spike from her corner is borderline zero which is not what Twilight needs right now.
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The attack toward me was unwarranted. I did not attack you in any form. I did not appreciate that when I wanted to express why I side with Luna. here are my views:
Twilight did not free her. The elements of Harmony did. The same Elements that Banished her in the first place. Twilight was just a user of the same weapon that imprisoned her. And yes I would be shitting on someone who was not even willing to give Discord another chance if it were not for Fluttershy. A individual who wanted nothing but to put a being back into stone when there are options.
I do not expect anything out of anyone. I hope for point of views to be analyzed to be reviewed for discussion. And from my point of view punishment of 4 of 6 elements was not far enough.
Now tell me Why hasn't Shining told Spike? why hasn't ANYONE told spike at this point? Why must one have to push/tell Shining or Candace or ANYONE to say "hey perhaps we should actually explain this to spike." why was it Luna the only one so far within the story to actually think about telling spike? To me that shows that Luna has compassion and she is not doing this for vindictive reasons. I feel Luna is finally addressing Twilight's problem, Addressing informing spike. Addressing things that everyone else in the story is apparently ignoring.
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You said you wouldn't help if you were in Luna's position. I'm just telling you the truth that it would be incredibly ungrateful. That's the truth.
Twilight and the Mane 6 freed her. The Elements of the Harmony are the tools the used to do it. The Element of Harmony require people to wield them. You're basically going: "I didn't shoot you! The gun and bullet did!".
Put a gun on the table and just leave it there. I'm sure it'll just get up and shoot someone on it's own.
Because she was trying to take over the country and force eternal night.
The same weapon that imprisoned her because she was doing something wrong. And this time freed her.
That part of the story didn't even happen in this story. Not only that but none of the girls even gave a damn about Discord until Celestia thought about reforming him. Even Fluttershy. They would've all carried on their lives without even thinking about him if they could. Nevermind the fact that this entire thing is basically irrelevant and sounds like you're reaching for reasons to make Luna appear in the right.
Why hasn't anyone told Spike? Because who would like the idea of telling a young child that one of your idols is mentally challenged and tortured someone. You think that's easy? You make it sound like people WANT to do that. No one wants to shatter the perception of a child of someone they look up to.
Luna? Compassion?
Here is something from chapter 3:
Yeah. Compassion.
This is the person you're siding with. Someone who has her head so far up Anon's ass she's outright threatening someone like that. Real compassionate.