Princess Sparkle has been betrayed during a diplomatic mission to the Caribou, and the Elements have been stolen. Recovering from her wounds, how will her relationship to her old teacher grow? And just how far into war will Luna take them all?
okay what were those gus thinking in threatenign equestria. they got lucky with twilight and nothing ore. even if she is indisposed, they have three alicorns and a draconequs on their side. and the elements of harmony are useless in cruel hands such as there's.
4506647 Basing it on? Not entirely. I do greatly enjoy that animation, and I also enjoy the way they created the armor and design for the warrior sisters. However, that is where the similarities end. I'm not trying to rip off anything with this story.
While I am using a little parodying of FOE, I'm creating a unique story, borrowing from a multitude of sources and using my own headcanon.
4506333 i would have to disagree about fallout equestria. at least in the sense that the values exist but in a desperate, distorted way to fit the fact the world has become a cruel, dangerous place through desperation. in the Stable hwere little pip was, it was more somber but sitll more to what questria was like before. and with the fallout factors, it totally defeats it. fallout equestria just works better with the weirder themes because of the magic. more so it has more heart and tragedy in it all.
..... fall of equestria is incomprehensible to me and just seems...... stupid. especially since the caribou thingies don't have superhuman strength nor weather maipulation, so how would they manage to conquer equestria?
I dislike it as well, but more on an artistic standpoint than a moral one. Heck, I enjoy a few of those kinks myself. It's just not a well presented storyline, and that is what gets me.
4506666 Lopping off lots of horns and mangling every wing. Plus, at least according to the Twilight Sparkle story (which is apparently canon to the original tumblr now), both Discord and a large number of the Royal Guard betrayed Equestria for their own gain, including Shining Armor. So there were a lot of unicorns and pegasi on the Caribou side.
Yes, I do in fact know far too much about the subject matter.
4506676 especialyl when one realize that past the candy colored coats and big bright anime eyes, the ponies technically have dangerous supernatural powers........ think caribou have magic, but ponies unicorn magic, earth pony superhuman prowess, pegasus flight and weathe rmanipulation, and their four monarch are all incredibly powerful immortals with the aid of the Draconequs discord as well.
4506682 the problme is actually overpowering them to begin with............ extremely unlikely. and even then how do you prevent earth ponies from snapping you in half anyway? you can't. their powers are supernatural in nature and they posses no manner to disable theri aiblities because it is present throughout their bodies............. and no a few defectors would FAR from be enough............. and discord would ahve prime reason to not join them. called Fluttershy, first thing to bring warmth to his heart in forever. definitely enslaving her owuld far from bring that level of warmth and her resenting him is something he feared enough to hold back his chaos so...............
stories like that are a bane on the fandom i think. less the perversions, more that there is no thought to how they could, and any thought would state; well they might have magic but the ponies have superpowered generals and leaders along with a more balanced army, not to mention the abilithy to manipulate weather patterns to their advantage and allies in the form of gryphons and minotaurs.
And saying this made you seem like a self-entitled little brat, by-the-by. I've not gone out and spread the word that I hate the tumblr on every media outlet known to man, along with several known to dolphins and/or monkeys. I just said it here. That's all. End of story. Full stop.
Calm your tits, we weren't addressing you personally. Rather, we're addressing this whole movement of anti-FoE fics.
You're right, the fiction behind it is quite shitty, and if all this was just parodying said shitty quality, I wouldn't have said a thing. But there is in fact an undercurrent of anti-kink underlining this whole movement, in the reader base if not in the authors. I've had one author I respect say flat faced that those who created and those who enjoy FoE are sub-humans.
Another thing that sets me off is the similarity to the Anti-TCB movement. This gives the impression that many seem to think non_creepy is trying to evangelize the Caribou misogynistic philosophy to us as truth the same way Chatoyance was genuinely trying to do with TCB!Celestia's misanthropic ideals. This is not true, and people (not you specifically, people in general) need to stop equating kinkiness with hidden misogyny.
4506725 and i already did...... sighs. caribou have one method of attack and ability, and it limits their tactical strength. ponies have three, in addition to the enormous havoc a alicorn of draconequs could bring to the field.
also stating how stories like that are a bane because none of them try to think how these factors could work out........ also they are stupid and think the regal sister would go down like light weights because they go beaten by unnaturally powerful beings and think it means anyone could beat them. chaos beast, lucky vampiric bug witch, stolen power of god tree. these are the three things that have overpowered the regal sisters before. not exactly minor any of them, are they?
FOE and TCB are not the same except in one way: they have spawned their own fan-base. The Conversion Bureau is more about people turning into Ponies (Peacefully or Forcefully) while the Fall of Equestria series is more pornographic in nature and makes the ponies look like they want to be enslaved without fighting back.
This fic is not FOE style, in fact I think it could start it's own fan-base that will rival even the fan-base for "CUPCAKES.
Thank you for the vote of confidence! While I won't test the gods with that level of arrogance, I would love it if this fic reached that level of notoriety.
I want this fic to be more than Fall or TCB. I want it to be about love, emotion, and war. Life itself.
4506782 all i know it is bullshit and contrived that for some reason they would be stronger than equestria. especially since equestria is not peaceful because peace, its peaceful because it is prepared to fight but is not an aggressor. unles the caribou are as powerful as tirek with discord and most of equstira's magic, they no standing chance.
Myth, I'm sorry, but I'd prefer if we stop this war of opinions right here, okay? Both sides have made their point. You disagree, they disagree. Now, let's please drop it. Mmkay?
I figured I'd do a mass respond, since the Twilight story at least is written by me.
There's no question the premise is far-fetched in many ways, and were I to have the freedom to create the world from scratch, I would change some things. However, it has always been more kink-focused than plot-focused, and so usually when plot & kink come into conflict, kink is chosen to win out. In the early chapters especially, it was necessary to incorporate that. Certain things had to happen; Celestia had to lose, Canterlot had to be overtaken, so forth.
The mechanism for doing so is basically 'The Crystal Heart has been corrupted, and exposure to it causes the vast majority of Equestrian Stallions to accept the warped mentality of the Caribou.' Some resist it - Big Mac is noteworthy there - but we're talking a very small number, not enough to make a substantial difference. When the Heart goes off in Canterlot, that's when the battle for the city is lost, because half the population abruptly turns on the other half, who has no idea what to expect.
If anyone really wants more, I'm happy to entertain discussion in PMs. There are things I don't really address in public because they pertain to unreleased plot points or other matters.
But yea, it's controversial, people will not like it, and I totally understand that. My own writing weirds me out from time to time, and of course, one has to write to improve at writing.
Sunny, thank you very much for coming in and clarifying things for my readers. I appreciate that very much.
However, for everyone else. I'm putting my hoof down now. I will not have anymore discussions or flame wars pertaining to Fall or each other. I will delete comments if I must. Everything that can be said about Fall has been said, and it is time to move on.
okay what were those gus thinking in threatenign equestria. they got lucky with twilight and nothing ore. even if she is indisposed, they have three alicorns and a draconequs on their side. and the elements of harmony are useless in cruel hands such as there's.
....... so you are basing it on the fall of the crystal empire mini animation.
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Oh sweet Diarchs.
4506647 Basing it on? Not entirely. I do greatly enjoy that animation, and I also enjoy the way they created the armor and design for the warrior sisters. However, that is where the similarities end. I'm not trying to rip off anything with this story.
While I am using a little parodying of FOE, I'm creating a unique story, borrowing from a multitude of sources and using my own headcanon.
4506333 i would have to disagree about fallout equestria. at least in the sense that the values exist but in a desperate, distorted way to fit the fact the world has become a cruel, dangerous place through desperation. in the Stable hwere little pip was, it was more somber but sitll more to what questria was like before.
and with the fallout factors, it totally defeats it. fallout equestria just works better with the weirder themes because of the magic. more so it has more heart and tragedy in it all.
..... fall of equestria is incomprehensible to me and just seems...... stupid. especially since the caribou thingies don't have superhuman strength nor weather maipulation, so how would they manage to conquer equestria?
4506660 fallout equestria?
4506673 FOE- Fall of Equestria.
I dislike it as well, but more on an artistic standpoint than a moral one. Heck, I enjoy a few of those kinks myself. It's just not a well presented storyline, and that is what gets me.
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Lopping off lots of horns and mangling every wing. Plus, at least according to the Twilight Sparkle story (which is apparently canon to the original tumblr now), both Discord and a large number of the Royal Guard betrayed Equestria for their own gain, including Shining Armor. So there were a lot of unicorns and pegasi on the Caribou side.
Yes, I do in fact know far too much about the subject matter.
4506676 especialyl when one realize that past the candy colored coats and big bright anime eyes, the ponies technically have dangerous supernatural powers........ think caribou have magic, but ponies unicorn magic, earth pony superhuman prowess, pegasus flight and weathe rmanipulation, and their four monarch are all incredibly powerful immortals with the aid of the Draconequs discord as well.
4506682 the problme is actually overpowering them to begin with............ extremely unlikely. and even then how do you prevent earth ponies from snapping you in half anyway? you can't. their powers are supernatural in nature and they posses no manner to disable theri aiblities because it is present throughout their bodies.............
and no a few defectors would FAR from be enough............. and discord would ahve prime reason to not join them. called Fluttershy, first thing to bring warmth to his heart in forever. definitely enslaving her owuld far from bring that level of warmth and her resenting him is something he feared enough to hold back his chaos so...............
stories like that are a bane on the fandom i think. less the perversions, more that there is no thought to how they could, and any thought would state; well they might have magic but the ponies have superpowered generals and leaders along with a more balanced army, not to mention the abilithy to manipulate weather patterns to their advantage and allies in the form of gryphons and minotaurs.
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Calm your tits, we weren't addressing you personally. Rather, we're addressing this whole movement of anti-FoE fics.
You're right, the fiction behind it is quite shitty, and if all this was just parodying said shitty quality, I wouldn't have said a thing. But there is in fact an undercurrent of anti-kink underlining this whole movement, in the reader base if not in the authors. I've had one author I respect say flat faced that those who created and those who enjoy FoE are sub-humans.
Another thing that sets me off is the similarity to the Anti-TCB movement. This gives the impression that many seem to think non_creepy is trying to evangelize the Caribou misogynistic philosophy to us as truth the same way Chatoyance was genuinely trying to do with TCB!Celestia's misanthropic ideals. This is not true, and people (not you specifically, people in general) need to stop equating kinkiness with hidden misogyny.
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And now, please say the same thing in a coherent manner.
4506725 and i already did...... sighs.
caribou have one method of attack and ability, and it limits their tactical strength. ponies have three, in addition to the enormous havoc a alicorn of draconequs could bring to the field.
also stating how stories like that are a bane because none of them try to think how these factors could work out........ also they are stupid and think the regal sister would go down like light weights because they go beaten by unnaturally powerful beings and think it means anyone could beat them.
chaos beast, lucky vampiric bug witch, stolen power of god tree. these are the three things that have overpowered the regal sisters before. not exactly minor any of them, are they?
Trixie kicks ass!
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You haven't read basically any actual Fall material, have you.
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FOE and TCB are not the same except in one way: they have spawned their own fan-base. The Conversion Bureau is more about people turning into Ponies (Peacefully or Forcefully) while the Fall of Equestria series is more pornographic in nature and makes the ponies look like they want to be enslaved without fighting back.
This fic is not FOE style, in fact I think it could start it's own fan-base that will rival even the fan-base for "CUPCAKES.
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Thank you for the vote of confidence! While I won't test the gods with that level of arrogance, I would love it if this fic reached that level of notoriety.
I want this fic to be more than Fall or TCB. I want it to be about love, emotion, and war. Life itself.
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You are most welcome
I wouldn't object if Trixie and Luna were togeather by the end of this.
4506782 all i know it is bullshit and contrived that for some reason they would be stronger than equestria.
especially since equestria is not peaceful because peace, its peaceful because it is prepared to fight but is not an aggressor. unles the caribou are as powerful as tirek with discord and most of equstira's magic, they no standing chance.
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Myth, I'm sorry, but I'd prefer if we stop this war of opinions right here, okay? Both sides have made their point. You disagree, they disagree. Now, let's please drop it. Mmkay?
Thanks!
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Unless they have Technology on their side, and also their own powers might be equal or more powerful then Pony Magic.
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Fim story + Caribou is an instant recipe for Fall of Equestria comment war...
4507703 stupidity is stupidity. foe, is sutpidity.
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Everyone has their own opinions
Fuck it this looks good
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I figured I'd do a mass respond, since the Twilight story at least is written by me.
There's no question the premise is far-fetched in many ways, and were I to have the freedom to create the world from scratch, I would change some things. However, it has always been more kink-focused than plot-focused, and so usually when plot & kink come into conflict, kink is chosen to win out. In the early chapters especially, it was necessary to incorporate that. Certain things had to happen; Celestia had to lose, Canterlot had to be overtaken, so forth.
The mechanism for doing so is basically 'The Crystal Heart has been corrupted, and exposure to it causes the vast majority of Equestrian Stallions to accept the warped mentality of the Caribou.' Some resist it - Big Mac is noteworthy there - but we're talking a very small number, not enough to make a substantial difference. When the Heart goes off in Canterlot, that's when the battle for the city is lost, because half the population abruptly turns on the other half, who has no idea what to expect.
If anyone really wants more, I'm happy to entertain discussion in PMs. There are things I don't really address in public because they pertain to unreleased plot points or other matters.
But yea, it's controversial, people will not like it, and I totally understand that. My own writing weirds me out from time to time, and of course, one has to write to improve at writing.
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I had occasionally wondered. Maybe I forgot or missed something.
Also, you may or may not want to spoiler some of that.
This Trixie, I like her. More!
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Sunny, thank you very much for coming in and clarifying things for my readers. I appreciate that very much.
However, for everyone else. I'm putting my hoof down now. I will not have anymore discussions or flame wars pertaining to Fall or each other. I will delete comments if I must. Everything that can be said about Fall has been said, and it is time to move on.
Thanks!
At least two of Luna's guards were mentioned pulling the carriage. Where the heckwere they?