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Aug
3rd
2020

Sixteen Time Heavyweight Champion · 4:00pm Aug 3rd, 2020

Comments ( 65 )
TCC56 #1 · Aug 3rd, 2020 · · ·

You know, I was not prepared for this level of meta today.

The divorce wasn't Twilight's idea, but she did draft the paperwork and notarize it. Frankly, that counts as foreplay.

So like, I drew this at my father's, and he kept looking over my shoulder, and at one point he was like. "So what is this about," because he doesn't speak any English. And I went, "Well, mainly it's about the blurred line between character and actor, kind of? Like 80% of the joke relies on the reader knowing what 'diegetic' means." And he was like "Why is Marge Simpson there." And I said "Oh, they also talk about fucking her, long story."

Then our scanner broke and he offered to sneak into his office at night -- he has the keys -- to use their scanner when nobody's around. Like, after knowing what the comic was about.

My dad's a trooper, but deadass I wonder if there's such a thing as supporting your son a bit TOO much.

Anyway, next comic will be digital and closer to my previous ones in tone (not this meta); I hope you don't mind the little experiment. Learned a lot with this one.

These are great!

I usually run out of steam after the first two frames and realise how bad I am at this.

Great blog!

Georg #7 · Aug 3rd, 2020 · · 13 ·

Next needed panel: Wana make it a threesome? Cheese: Yeah!

How do I upvote a blog post?

Dammit I love waking up to these. :rainbowlaugh:

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Weird Al has a seventeen year old daughter.

This is why I've always loved stories by scoots2 and Sketcha-Holic. Both do incredible work in separating Cheese from Weird Al and making him his own independent entity (which, not incidentally, makes shipping him with Pinkie that much easier.)

But yeah, speaking as someone who's working on a Cheese-centric story right now, it is not easy to get into a headspace that fully distinguishes him from his inspiration. Though I had no issue with that in the timeskip... though, in turn, it helps that I already shipped it.

(The really funny thing is that it's a role swap story where Cheese takes Twilight's place. Who's predicting whom here?)

we've all thought all these things

and yes I do imagine Ashleigh Ball making out with herself

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Dammit, Numbers. You just made it w—

:trixieshiftleft:

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Or in Aragon's case, a user?

Georg #15 · Aug 3rd, 2020 · · 2 ·

5328134 Yes, I know. I've followed him since college, been to two of his concerts, including the one in Kansas just a few days after his parents died, and follow him on Twitter. He is an awesome human being.

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Aragon: Like 80% of the joke relies on the reader knowing what 'diegetic' means.

Me: Haha pinkie's a scientologist.

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and yes I do imagine Ashleigh Ball making out with herself

Apparently, she does/did too:
4.bp.blogspot.com/-kt0pKRxUoUg/U7DcWO2O6AI/AAAAAAAB014/cP3IM-hxxEc/s1600/Capture.PNG
I think I just accidentally gave all the 2014 veterans a panic attack.
im just trying to be funny please forgive me

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Um, which Shaggy were you referring to? In Scooby-Doo! WrestleMania Mystery (the movie I’m assuming you were referring to), Shaggy was voiced by Matthew Lillard (who also played him in the live action movies), but he was voiced by Will Forte and Iain Armitage (young Shaggy) in the recent Scoob!, while the original voice of Shaggy was for decades that of the late, great Casey Kasem. The degree of meta thus varies substantially based on which Shaggy is being referenced.

This is some nice meta to close the day with

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I'll be in my bunk.

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Just wait until next year...


On ty he topic of the comic, I can understand the idea, but disagree with it. Sure, Cheese is explicitly based on someone, but that isn't the same as actually being that person. There are explicit differences as well. It would be like me getting upset over an alternate universe version of my fiancee having a different partner. They are two different people with different worlds.

TDR

What the heck did i just read........

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Author Interviewer

I know someone in this fandom does a killer Weird Al impression, so hopefully someone will pick this up and dub it. :3

Also, I'm gonna need a crop of just that Pinkie "SEMANTICS" face as a reaction image.

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At least he's being supportive? Even if it's to a slightly excessive degree, mind.

I always wondered what the creators of characters meant to be E-rated and wholesome felt when seeing porn of said characters.

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Honestly, I'd expect Rarity first.

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You dont get to be a creator and not know beyond any doubt that it is going to happen...

From what I understand, a significant number of them contribute.:trollestia:

Well, this is wonderful.

Hard to imagine Weird Al in something this crass. Having a hard time figuring out if that makes the joke better or worse.

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Don't question it. your fathers a great man who helps bring art into this world.

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Holy kek that's actually amazing

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Welcome to Aragon. Where you’re not entirely sure what just happened but you have a vague feeling you want more of it.

I can't see John Cena making love to Shaggy.

iisaw #34 · Aug 3rd, 2020 · · 2 ·

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I can't un-see it! :facehoof:

Cheese Sandwich bugs me so much. If he was the pony version of Milo Murphy, then it'd be great but he's so derivative!

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My dad's a trooper, but deadass I wonder if there's such a thing as supporting your son a bit TOO much.

Nah, you just take after him.

You magnificent man, you. That Pinkie SEMANTICS face is probably my favorite single frame yet.

There's the part too where he's nowhere near good enough for partyloud

I'm gonna go scrape my mind's eye out with a rusty cheese grater for that Simpsons example.

It would never have occurred to me to find shipping a fictional character with a paper-thin fictionalization of a real person weird. Even if you do away entirely with the fictionalization of the real person it seems at worst very mildly unusual to me. Is my perspective really that skewed from the norm that most people would be bothered?

I mean, I know my perspective is skewed, but normally I still have a reasonable idea of how all y'all allosexual weirdos think.

Also you're right, it should've been Rarity.

Also, your Dad is a sweetheart.

Your comics are brilliant and I want to share them but also require an understanding of MLP so I'm stuck! Still love your comics though

I hope your dad remembers this happening every time he uses that printer from now on. Maybe it'll make for a funny story around the water cooler.

This Ow'd my brain meats.

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I feel like it depends on the person, for example, I had no idea Mr. Burns' kid was based on a real guy until now. So that one had less affect on me.

Weird Al, on the other hand is, which makes it somewhat weird, especially because Weird Al... you don't look at him and see a very sexual being.

A purely fictional example I've found that might work is from that made for a play book JK Rowling wrote, in which it's revealed that Voldemort and Bellatrix Le Strange had a son. Imagine. Those two. Going at it. Snake face and psycho chick, and her creepy mad laugh the entire time.

While the Pinkie/Cheese thing doesn't bother me as much, I feel that's kinda how some people view it.

Trying to think of other examples of this and all that comes to mind offhand is Futrama when Fry had that Lucy Liu-bot. Tho they weren't even pretending it was someone else. Straight up Lucy Liu's mind (a copy anyway) in a robot. Played by Lucy Liu.

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Ultimately (and obviously) everybody will feel differently about it; this comic is just me cheekily explaining my position while having jokes spread throughout. That said, I do feel that Cheese Sandwich is just simply Too Much Of Weird Al Under A Thin Disguise for me to see it as anything else, which is why Pinkie explains in the comic that writing him feels disrespectful.

Mind, I'm speaking exclusively about me, Aragón, writing him. I'm super okay with Cheese Sandwich being a character in the show, and even with him marrying Pinkie -- they make a LOT of sense in-universe, as the comic says multiple times -- because Weird Al himself is involved in the process, actively voicing the character. There's an implicit (and explciit, cause contracts exist) consent on his part, even if I still find it weird to ship real people with characters.

The thing is, when I write Cheese Sandwich, I don't have that implicit consent from Weird Al. I'm fine with having him appear and say some jokes, that's kosher, but actively having him involved with a character, romantically? Writing about that? Oooof. Way too weird, way too queasy. I'm writing celebrity fiction at that point, and it makes me extremely uncomfortable.

On top of that, Weird Al A) is sixty years old, B) is a figure I legitimately respect and don't want to make fun of or write in a weird way, C) has an actual real partner in real life. There's just too much shit going on for me to feel cool writing him and Pinkie together, and if I'm not having fun in the process, why bother?

I've no clue if reading about Cheese Sandwich will be more or less squeamy; I think that as a reader there's an extra level of abstraction that lets you enjoy him as a character, rather than as Weird Al with four legs. As the writer and artist of the comics, though, it's just too much.

Well I'm officially done with fimfic for today.

Neither my lungs, nor my brain could deal with more of this.

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