Rage Review: Resist and BIte (Chapter 16, Part B) · 6:29am May 7th, 2020
Chapter 16: Slavery experience (Part B)
It's the Slavery Experience! Get on board the ship for the onerous Middle Passage! Then get auctioned and sold away from all your friends and loved ones for a hopeless life of servitude!
Wow, that got dark fast.
So Charlie and Sunburst get to their literal slave labor together.
Which is, really, more weirdly free-form slavery.
In all the open-air slave systems of which I am aware, whether convict labor or plantation field hands, slaves are members of work groups (often called "gangs"), who are in turn assigned group tasks. The point of this is that one overseer can supervise a gang or group of gangs, who in turn knows what they are supposed to do.
This is important because, given their druthers, slaves would rather (1) escape or (2) loaf around. After all, they're being forced to work and don't stand to personally-profit in any sense from their labors: usually, they are motivated by fear of punishment rather than hope of reward.
When slaves are assigned to gangs, the overseers can quickly see if anyone is missing and act appropriately. When gangs are assigned to tasks at locations, the overseers can quickly see if the gangs are at the proper locations doing their assigned tasks.
Without some such system, there is no way for the overseers to tell if a slave is sneaking off to escape from the camp, or simply find a quiet corner to take a nap.
No one actually assigned Charlie to work with Sunburst. And no one is really overseeing them.
Charlie activated his horn and scooped the coal with a large iron shovel. Once he scooped tons of them, he cautiously lifted it above the wheelbarrow's iron tray. Then he poured the coal into the tray, and he kept doing the same exertion until the wheelbarrow was full.
After one minute, the wheelbarrow was full.
Several points of interest here.
(1) Charlie's horn is most definitely not being restrained by any ring, as he's holding "tons" of coal in it."
(2) Between the ability to lift "tons" of anything, and his force field, Charlie could mop up the floor with this whole Chinese reinforced-platoon strength force. (And I do mean "mop up the floor," because some of them would have been reduced to a gooey reddish-white paste by his likely tactics).
(3) How big is this shovel, that Charlie can scoop up "tons" of coal with it at a time? For that matter, since Charlie's using telekinesis to do this, why is he bothering with the shovel? (Possible explanation: it takes less skill to lift the shovel and use it to scoop the coal than to lift all the pieces of coal at once without a shovel).
(4) How is the bin of a "wheelbarrow" holding "tons" of coal at a time? Perhaps Author does not grasp that a "wheelbarrow" is a two-wheeled cart that is pushed around by lifting the near end, and hence must be a fairly small cargo transport. Does Author perhaps mean "minecar" or even "railcar?" (The Equestrians canonically have both).
Then Charlie and Sunburst began to push the wheelbarrow to a large yellow heavy duty bucket with all of their strength. And thanks to Charlie's time in fitness first in Westfield Paramatta and Westfiled Sydney. It was more easier to push, despite the fact that his pony body was making it a little bit diffcult.
Is Story a paid advertisement for these gyms? "Come to Westfield and build muscles, guaranteed usable even if you're transmogrified into a nonhuman!"
This confirms that Author isn't aware that Alicorns canonically have Earth Pony strength, though.
While pushing the wheelbarrow. Charlie looked up and saw that there were some ponies, yaks, dragons, Kirin, diamond dogs, changelings and griffons putting materials like metal plates and strong woods on the large metal walls while standing on wooden logs, and the wall had six floors, and it also had two large elevators installed on the sides. And on the top, there were seven soldiers armed with sniper rifles observing outside of Canterlot.
There's something vaguely Biblical about this description. "And the W had N1 X, and it had N2 Y, and on the top there were N3 Z, yea, verily."
From where did all these "metal plates" come? General Jin's wardrobe?
There are seven soldiers on a wall which is presumably at least a mile on a side, and must have at least two sides. That's one in command and three per side.
Watch-on and watch-off, that's 14 soldiers assigned to wall duty when they're not sleeping. 21 soldiers if it's a more standard three-watch setup, whether two watches per group per day or one long watch per group per day.
That is a big bite out of a 40-60 man force -- at least 24% to 34% of the total strength. This is in addition to anyone guarding slaves or assigned to offensive operations or support duty.
"Why do they need a wall mister Sunburst?" Charlie asked.
"I-I do not know." Sunburst said with a shake of his head "All I know is that they have been pressuring us to finish that wall for the last couple of days." He said with a depressed expression.
I have no idea what the wall is for. Maybe wall-building is as instinctive for Mainland Chinese as hive-building is for bees?
Charlie was very perplexed. Are the Chinese preparing for a war? Or are they trying to renovate this place as a new country?
They are obviously fighting a war, with the aim of conquering and in some way using Equestria. Unless Story is even more perverse than I imagine.
They work some more, then:
"Say Charlie." Sunburst said looking at him "How was your journey with my daughter?" He asked.
"It was okay." Charlie said with a shrug "We walked around the land and gained some knowledge about each other's culture and species." He finished.
"That's good to hear." Sunburst said with a smile. "What else did you guys do?" He asked.
CHARLIE: Oh, went to the movies, had dinner -- I brought her back before 10!
"Well, we tried to get some assistance in the Kirin Village, Griffonstone Cloudsdale, Changeling Kingdom and dragon lands but, they all declined to accept the request we desideratum or asked because of what my kind has done to them." He said in sadness.
"Oh my, then we might not have a chance of retaking our land." Sunburst said with a disconsolated expression.
"Don't worry mister Sunburst, I'll think of a plan." Charlie assured him.
Charlie, it was your last brilliant plan that has apparently doomed Equestria.
Seriously, though, why is Sunburst despairing so? Are the Equestrians so utterly lacking in initiative, that without Charlie The Designated Hero personally trying to organize a resistance with his Amazing Kewl Sooper Dooper L33T Diplomacy Skillz the whole damn country will just let the Chinese capture them one small group at a time, and then be held in slavery forever by one platoon of light infantry per city? Seriously?
Not all authorities would have been in the capital city. There would be provincial and municipal leaders, and commanders of various armies and garrisons. None of them are doing anything? Not Celestia, not Luna, not Shining Armor, nor Cadance? They're all just sitting around waiting on freakin' Charlie Lam, Hero From Another World?
WHY?
Before they could reach the coal pile with the wheelbarrow. A revving noise was heard, Charlie looked to his left and saw a green coloured military jeep driving towards them. But to the creatures, it was a metallic carriage of some sort.
Um ... Story?
A jeep is "a metallic carriage of some sort." So "the creatures" would be absolutely right!
For that matter, the Equestrians canonically have both railroad and road steam engines. We've seen both onscreen.
Colonel Lin gets out.
Lin then walked up to the working area and observed his surroundings and saw that all of the creatures are doing an efficient work, but not too well because he can see that some of them are exhausted. And some were petrified.
(1) If they are "doing an efficient work" then how they doing it "not too well?"
(2) "Petrified?"
"The Lieutenant General is very interested with the three enemies all of you have defeated a while ago. So he is now organizing a sparring match with you all fighting against some of our new recruits in the military. And some are already in there fighting." Lin announced "Anyone want to volunteer?" He asked.
The ponies, yaks, changelings, dragons, diamond dogs, Kirins and griffons all kept themselves silent because they do not want to get injured.
This is a horrible idea from the Chinese point of view, given their limited numbers. Having said that, it's sort of strange that none of the Equestrians, not even of the warrior races like Dragons and Griffons, want the opportunity to hurt Chinese with the permission of the Chinese themselves.
"And whoever beats one men, gets some of their food back, as well as two bottles of clean drinking water." Lin said.
That is a pathetic reward. Having said that, if the Chinese are working their prisoners without giving them food or clean drinking water, this is confirmed to be attempted mass murder.
Why aren't the Equestrians rising?
When Sunburst heard this, he stood up and took the challenge.
"I'll go."
As a research mage Unicorn, with very little physical strength or combat magic, he is the last Pony who should be volunteering for this.
"Mister Sunburst." Charlie called him, and Sunburst looked back at him "Do not accept the challenge. Because to my accounts, it is e very hypothetical."
I'm not sure what Charlie would be saying in English. I think he means "By my reckoning, your chances are dubious."
Colonel Lin drags Sunburst around by his horn (for no very obvious reason) into the headquarters. He hands him over to an MP, who (also for no very obvious reason) drags him around by his right hoof.
There is a detailed description of the path they take through the building.
Finally, Sunburst reaches the sparring room.Sunburst began to observe the room. The room was as big as a castle hall and room, he looked forward and saw a square green mat on the floor as well as thirteen invaders in jungle suits sitting around it. There were also two invaders in the same jungle suits standing near the gate while wielding their monstrous weapons. And the room also had four red flag banners with five stars.There are at least 15 Chinese in the room, plus 1 in the Arena of Sport ... I mean, sparring circle. Adding the 7 on the wall, that's 23 Chinese, meaning that a mere 17 to 37 Chinese are doing everything else the Invaders need doing.
Big Mac is also in the arena, and he knocks out his opponent. Note that realistically, the one he knocked out would be unfit for duty for at least the rest of the day.
"Thank you for the resources." Big Mac said with a bow of his head, but Jin disregarded him.
You're right. Big Mac would never say this. At most he would say "Eeyup!" or "Obliged" or something of that sort.
Yes, Big Mac is capable of greater loquaciousness, but he only talks at length to people he trusts. He does not trust the Chinese!
Big Mac returns to his work group and family, and the one big way he's in character here is that he was willing to risk himself for his family.
General Jin decides to fight three creatures at once, as a demonstration. The three creatures he will fight are Sunbust, a Changeling, and a Dragon.
Jin then walked onto the mat and starred at the unicorn, changeling and dragon with no signs of timidity towards the three creature because, he and his army including some swat units and police officers have also killed and enslaved many of their kind which proves that they are very frail.
So Jin apparently doesn't comprehend the force multiplier of firearms. Nor that he is about to fight without firearms.
And even with that, Author is cheating: Jin's reinforced platoon has been so successful mostly by auctorial fiat. At no point has Story given a coherent explanation of how this was possible.
The dark blue female dragon attempted to slash the invader in the face with her sharp and petrying claws. But Jin responded with a front kick to the her face, and the force of his kick knocked the dragon's teeth out and sent her flying off the mat.
How big is this Dragon? How is Jin's kick powerful enough to knock her teeth out, when those teeth are firmly-enough seated to enable her to bite through rock and metal?
And what are "petrying" claws? This may mean "petrifying," but that still makes little sense.
Sunburst and the changeling both worked together when they witnessed the fallen dragon. Sunburst charged his horn and the changeling swung his right hoof back and attempted to blast and punch the invader in the chest at the same time.
When Jin noticed their attacks, he countered the magic and punch attempt with his wrists ...
How exactly does he block a magic blast with his wrists?
... and sent two back kicks to their chests, and the changeling was sent crashing next to the dragon, and Sunburst was sent crashing to where he started.
Note the highly-variable power of Jin's feet.
The green changeling whispered to the female dragon and told her to stop fighting him by shaking his head. And the dragon bregrudingly had to cease.
Why?
Sunburst insists on continuing to fight. Fortunately for Jin, Sunburst inexplicably gives up on using magic and instead fights hoof to hand. Sunburst lasts a surprisingly long time (because he's a Named Canon Character?) before being defeated. Sunburst's "hoof" is broken (whatever that means; Story clearly does not have a good grasp of equine anatomy).
So falls Sunburst -- at least for now.
And so endeth the chapter, with its metal plates, strong wood, floors, elevators and snipers.
Yay, a rage review... I shall read it my friend.
Since organization is hard with such small numbers on their part, a laissez-faire approach to slavery when the perpetrators are showing signs of being genocidal is definitely the best approach.
There's surely nothing that could go wrong.
It's almost like that's a general rule of slaves working, if I didn't know better, because Twilight's reasoning for not being able to use magic was "too injured" and Starlight, when she told everyone to get back to work, judging by the following text:
The fact that this apparent policy of "they can use magic while working" hasn't somehow resulted in a good portion of everyone escaping by now, or every last invader dead, or otherwise incapacitated, is laughable.
I like the explanation that "it's a bit more convenient to use a tool, even with magic, less to focus on" so, meh.
(It really wouldn't surprise me at this point)
More logistics horror stories.
And there's Ms. Canonically Grownup Alicorn, who blasted a hole through multiple floors, and shot out of the castle, and shattered an ancient artifact in her infancy, and would have a handle on her powers by now, be able to control them.
(Not trying to downplay any of the others, mind you; I have a soft spot for all of them, especially Cadance the Often Underrated)
Seriously, they wouldn't even need an platoon of their own to win, the extra numbers would just be for good measure, so the Chinese would not be allowed to escape, slip away.
I guess the author is forgetting that the Chinese don't possess physical superiority. Again.
Okay...
I think Luster Dawn outright stated that there's supposed to have been about a month since the Chinese have taken over...why isn't the vast majority of everyone dead? (I think I misremembered that part) Why did they not decide "if we're probably dying either way, we're at least gonna try to take these bastards down" instead? Why hasn't the story addressed the massive amounts of deaths that realistically should be happening/are at risk of happening, if dehydration and starvation are such concerns, leaving rebellion as the only option in their eyes? They'd have nothing to lose and everything to gain, the absolute worst equation possible, if you want control over them.This doesn't make any sense.
Also, he's thanking them for basic decency, without it being indicated as backhanded/backhooved. Just let that sink in.
Jin's an idiot who only got by in the Prologue because the author decided that Jin barefistedly soloing a dragon and the Mane Six in a straight fight was more plausible than "Twilight gripped Jin's leg with her insurmountably powerful telekinesis, and bent it 90 degrees in the wrong direction." Now, would Twilight do exactly that, unless she's apocalyptically apoplectic and/or corrupted? Probably not.
Well, y'see, Jin's "mundane metal pads" make the opponents weaker and stupider than they should be... right? Truly the most astounding military genius of our time!
Because I guess dragons are just oh-so-fragile. Shouldn't they weigh more than humans?
It's hilarious how he doesn't even get singed from such an attack. Remember when this happened, much earlier, in the third chapter, where they escaped?
So what gives? Sunburst could knock multiple humans back with a barrier then, yet now, a focused magic blast hitting him doesn't so much as singe his wrist, at a bare minimum? There's no signs it felt like a hefty punch was blocked to Jin, affected him accordingly, he's just so cool it doesn't even scratch him, and he immediately counterattacks with nary a moment to catch his breath.
This doesn't make any sense, the villain is arbitrarily invincible. It's not like he's a superpowered villain that is conceivably that supernaturally durable, ala Tirek, Chrysalis, Nightmare Moon, Discord and so on. He's only human.
Because using natural ranged weapons? Using telekinesis to possibly throw him off-balance via his leg, trip him? What's that for? Intelligent people? Here's a common sense tactic: blast them until your mana reserves are depleted, go for weak spots if at all possible, then resort to hitting physically. Sunburst showed no signs of any such magical exhaustion, so he had no excuse, other than "the author doesn't quite get how to write fighting scenes, and is blatantly contriving it as they go along to make the villain look so much cooler."
(Minor edits, like striking out "I thought they invaded Equestria a month ago," when no, that's when the backstory apparently happened... which begs the question of "how did they conquer everything so rapidly, and how rapidly?")
Also, even if the Chinese did feed and hydrate them, which they're not, at least not adequately, wouldn't it be a not insignificant logistical concern to keep the food going? Unless the Earth Ponies get to farm inhumanly fast, which is quite possibly not overly practical anyway, between pegasi not being able to bring needed rain, and how the Chinese are operating, because their attention is on that stupid freaking wall, and there's not enough of them to either guard them or distribute food, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure the Chinese could feed that many prisoners/slaves if they actually tried nonstop. Especially when you remember they're not human, could need to eat more, in a lot of cases.
(And if they took food upon raiding the lands... well, it would take such a long time to handle all of it, for such a relatively small amount of people... even if they weren't dealing with guarding everyone they captured, dealing with counterattacks that would realistically be happening.)
If I had to guess, such a concern never entered the author's mind.
Writers Have No Sense of Scale is a trope for a reason, but that multi-ton coal shovel is as bad as the convention hall arcology.
Nothing about proper diplomatic practices or the concept of trial and error, though.
Then why don't you volunteer in his place, Protagonist Horse? Everyone's waiting for their cue.
Given how Equestrians are apparently made of aerogel in this world, I can't help but imagine the colonel carrying Sunburst like an ice cream cone.
And why isn't she roasting him alive? All three combatants have ranged capabilities and insist on getting in close because, well, Jin needs to win in order for the story to go as planned, and there's no way to actually make that happen without gaming the system. I would never want to play a tabletop RPG with this author. Those tons of coal are clearly for the railroad campaign.
And once again, I'm given the mental image of the creatures turning to stone from overwork. Somehow.
Please diversify your adjectives or maybe even show their fear (i.e. "They froze and stared at their oppressors like a deer in headlights"), I'm begging you!
Hypothetical? Who uses that word in this kind of situation?
Jungle suits? Not gonna lie, that really confused me when I read that, so I looked it up to see what the heck story was talking about. This was my first result:
images.halloweencostumes.com/products/54418/1-1/mens-opposuits-juicy-jungle-suit.jpg
And then I got to wondering if they meant safari/jungle exploring outfits:
heavencostumes.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/3ca7c4de79fd9294a778cbfdebc9dde4/s/w/swe-co5797-mens-khaki-beige-safari-suit-jungle-themed-fancy-dress-costume.jpg
And then I thought, duh, they most likely mean camo, that's the pattern most people automatically associate with militaries. Still, the former two both bring on hilarious mental images.
Clearly, he's Wonder Woman.
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dccu/images/4/41/Wonder_Woman_theatrical_poster.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/360?cb=20181005171539
Bonus story excerpt!
(Because when you "felt" the attack from behind, you definitely could still "evade" it!)
5257771
...Thank you for linking that gem, it was quite entertaining to see.
Or how it was mostly Charlie expositing to Luster, as opposed to her teaching the newcomer things.
...Such a wondrously strange mental image.
The author's explanation (that I'm not sure if it's ever pointed out in the actual story, but I don't remember seeing it) is that they don't roast them because of shock collars that would activate if they tried. Which... aside from whatever conductive properties dragon scales might have (electricity takes the easiest path to the ground), being possibly semi-metallic or whatever, runs into the question of how they're handling voltage for varying sizes, intensity, and collar sizes, when they had time to measure and produce said things. It's not like Sunburst's magic was bound for this fight (And was the changeling's? If they had a horn?), so...
(I still have no idea how long it's supposed to have been since the Chinese first entered Equestria)
5257831
Not gonna lie, I think I wouldn't mind having either of those outfits.
(Are they supposed to be wearing ghillie suits in the story though? If that was the intent, why? They're not being camouflaged here.)
Jin's a filthy hacker and needs to be banned from this server, bringing in banned gear like that.5257750
5257771
Made my day...
5257831
Management tip: if your workers are literally turning to stone, you're working them too hard!
Wait till you see what he uses "petrified" to describe next chapter. Let's just say it's a reaction no girl ever wants to get from a guy she likes ...
(keeping in mind that in this conext "petrified" means "frozen in shock or horror").
5257921
Hmm... thank you?
:)
derpicdn.net/img/view/2013/8/8/394317__safe_artist-colon-mn27_princess+cadance_princess+celestia_alicorn_pony_aunt+and+niece_auntlestia_cute_female_filly_hug_leaning_looking+at+each+other_ma.png
(because hey, you're not gonna complain about something cute, right?)
5258066
Maybe... lol... Its sad the rage review group is not as active as it use to be.
5257953
you must show never tell, well sometimes... but mostly show.
Are the Equestrians so utterly lacking in initiative, that without Charlie The Designated Hero personally trying to organize a resistance with his Amazing Kewl Sooper Dooper L33T Diplomacy Skillz the whole damn country will just let the Chinese capture them one small group at a time, and then be held in slavery forever by one platoon of light infantry per city? Seriously?
In their petrified forms, Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow are seeing this and thinking, 'Why did we fail. More to the point, if the Equestrians are this spineless, how did we fail?"
That fight scene as described was -- well, I hate to say 'cringeworthy' given how the word has been overused but yeah. It was not good. And why did the Chinese commander even decide to try it anyway? Did he read any of Edgar Rice Burroughs' approximately 500 stories where gladiatorial pits were used and decide 'I am so doing that'? I mean, it's better than trying to seduce the local princess into making you her consort and ruler of the country. At least here. Unless you're into horses.
Such a strange chapter.
5257880
I was thinking myself, if you feel an attack, isn't it too late to evade it?
5258072
Yeah, I really miss that group being active, too, I must admit. This sort of thing Jordan's doing kinda scratches that itch, a good bit.
5258078
If they're actually thinking in there, that is, as opposed to being like Cryosleep because they're not some Spirit of Chaos; interesting as the former may be as a concept... I'd rather think it was actually "Stone Sleep" for them
But yeah, I'd imagine Chrysalis especially would be Laughing Mad if she had any awareness of this, possibly getting to witness Starlight (and others she hates, Twilight especially) having had their spirit(s) broken by anyone that wasn't her.
Or she could be kind of thinking along the lines of Mojo Jojo in this clip (sorry, "camera on screen" was the only thing left for that scene, to my knowledge, YouTube possibly nuked the rest), where the Alien Invader was outperforming his ideas, outsmarted, beat him and the Girls at every turn up until that point.
Definitely would be an... interesting POV to get into, lol.
It's especially strange/jarring because the story seems to directly allude to them, in this very chapter:
Just... to think this is supposed to be the very same world that had The Ending of the End happen, or at least something quite similar?
I guess Jin maybe really is a bloodthirsty Blood Knight, though that was arguably kinda obvious since the Prologue. It perhaps would be more admirable, if it made a lot more sense, and he wasn't a sadistic murderer.
5258100
I guess my stories survived the group's wrath... HA! ...... For now.
5258502
How does that in any way override what should by all rights be an instinct to use magic against them? When skilled Unicorns and other magic users get very pissed off in the show itself, do they typically default to physically attacking them?
Yes, it is in part due to the rating, but no, they do not (also, a good reason not to is that their physical strength might be subpar if they're not a physically fit soldier, which Sunburst would know) Emotions also are heavily implied to fuel magic, make it stronger, as a general rule, so it also has the benefit of "being pissed off makes your magical blasts stronger" (in a similar vein to how Top Bolt outright has Rainbow Dash say "Flying is like thirty percent skill and seventy percent confidence" regarding Pegasi, and the same also presumably applies to Earth Ponies), and there's how dark magic probably works, being fueled by negative emotions.
Furthermore, firing raw magic by all rights isn't all that complicated, so it'd be easy to do when you're pissed.
It would make sense if Sunburst was born a human, and isn't used to being able to use magic, but he wasn't.
...So why can he kick her around when she's covered in thick scales that make her more durable than any human? Probably heavier, stronger bones as well? Why can humans even bruise dragons in this story, knock out their teeth, physically?
He was only wearing a uniform?!
5258525
So, how much time do you think it would take to transport troops, equipment, across the country? Systematically sweep cities (of which there are multiple) like Manehattan? How much time to travel across the country in the first place, before you even get into the surrounding areas?
All of this, without anyone having the time to organize an army, or guerrilla fighters, against you, have shapeshifters try to infiltrate your ranks? You'd at the very least be spread thin. (See below paragraph for why this would be even more relevant)
Do you really think someone who's supposed to be as intelligent as Twilight Sparkle wouldn't, as the leader, the highest authority of a nation such as Equestria, have the foresight to have Magical Dragonfire messaging (as Spike did at the ending of almost every episode for the first two seasons) on standby with the leaders of other nations, some mayors of her own cities, and such, so they don't get caught off-guard, like "Hey, Ponyville got attacked, if you don't hear from me in X amount of time, I've lost, prepare accordingly, against technologically advanced invaders," or "please help us fight them?"
Also, Equestria quite possibly has radio invented (look right above the stallion's ear), from before the timeskip, so that would expedite communication as well.
Is that for humans, or legendary/mythical dragons of varying sizes, weights, and such?
5258644
Why do you keep defaulting to that explanation when superhuman strength would have to cut it? A human wouldn't be stronger than a dragon of similar size, no matter how much they worked out.
And did all of the larger ones just let this happen easily, die with nary a fight, or an act of token resistance? Did they all just stand there while they were gunned down, or charge on foot, forgetting that they can fly?
He wasn't subjected to any consequences though, as he should've been, if it were truly an "underestimation." He blocked a magical attack with his freaking wrist, and he was completely unphased.
5258516
Then call it an Army Combat Uniform. The term "jungle suits" implies safari adventure, tacky leaf-patterned suits, or looking like Swamp Thing.
I know what you were trying to say in that "hypothetical" scene, and I repeat, nobody uses the word "hypothetical" in this situation. That word is used when people are pondering theories and "what if" situations. A word that would fit better is "doubtful" or "dubious".
5258661
Aside from the narration being too vague for that to be the obvious interpretation, that still runs into another issue: Why is Sunburst in range for that to happen in the first place?
Let's review the scene:
If Sunburst isn't trying to fake Jin out by teleporting, like Twilight did in the series premiere, against Nightmare Moon (and no, Sunburst cannot teleport, and Twilight did get much better with teleportation), and he doesn't have comparable physical abilities to Jin, as a sorta Squishy Unicorn, what does he have to gain by charging Jin in the first place? He can attack from a distance. That's part of the point of having magic, so the opponent closing in on you and hitting you can't happen easily.
If he were fighting remotely intelligently, even if he had zero combat training/practice in his life (which would be in probable contrast to Starlight Glimmer, who is probably smart enough to do just that generally, like her fighting against Twilight Sparkle in S5, her Teleport Spam when faced with the cockatrices in Student Counsel, or Chrysalis in S9 [Chrysalis really outclasses Starlight physically, hard, and the reason she didn't use her magic then, in S6, is because she couldn't, because of an artifact Chrysalis had]; she is a rather talented battlemage), he would've been supporting the other two's attacks from a distance, backpedaling if need be to stay out of range. Sunburst is supposed to be an intelligent character, he would've plausibly studied unicorn combat tactics at least once in his life, via books, or combat tactics in general, being as much of a bookworm as he is, and "keep your distance if possible" by all rights should be included in that.
I'm pretty sure if I had magic, and especially if I had it my entire life, I would keep that in mind, and not inexplicably lose all brain cells and wisdom upon fighting someone.
In addition, while charging up a magical attack for a period of time has the probable benefit of building up power, it's been shown in canon numerous times that unicorns can fire magical blasts in less than half a second (do note that Sunburst was outright disoriented from hitting his head on the last one, too, and still pulled it off that quickly), if they need to, so Jin probably shouldn't have had time to react to this, even if Sunburst wasn't keeping his distance (also, you explicitly said he had at least five seconds of free time to charge that attack, during the standoff, right before the fight, even if charging it was a pressing concern).
In short: he'd practically have nothing to gain by charging towards an opponent who is physically superior (more plausible for a human to be such over an MLP Unicorn, moreso than an Alicorn, Earth Pony, Dragon, and to a lesser degree, Pegasi too), and it wouldn't fit his personality, so you only had him do that so Jin could do something "cool," in the vein of some action movie scene where the character is fighting multiple people at once, in hand-to-hand, and dominating, at the expense of all plausibility.
Also, it doesn't make sense as to why the other two stopped fighting so easily and quickly (and they're not even named characters). Jin shouldn't have been able to dislodge dragon teeth (they can chomp through metal and crystal without dislodging, so General Metal Plates has nothing on that durability, or sheer jaw strength), and he shouldn't have been able to even hurt her, quite probably even on a superficial level; it's a similar problem that defeating Spike in one blow had (knocking his teeth out, as well): it should have never happened, it's completely implausible.
When Jin's fighting other characters in this story, what happens is one or two of the following things, and they're not mutually exclusive by any means, because they sometimes happen at the same time: Either the character(s) are made stupider/less competent than they should reasonably be (that "stupidly charging in" thing happened with Rarity too), and/or they're less powerful than they should be, to make Jin look good. And either way, there's no valid justification for this, and it's been a problem since the Prologue, to the point that it's a plot hole.
A very similar thing happens with how Charlie outperforms characters like Twilight Sparkle in this story, and the entirety of her group of friends (including her pupil, Luster Dawn), except he's not directly attacking them.
Also, it happens for the entire premise, because even aside from everyone being implausibly being curb-stomped by the Chinese (no matter how much you try to hand-wave it away, it's still denial on your part), they should've realized that the Chinese are acting with genocidal intentions (taking away food and water is exactly that), and they therefore have nothing to lose by resisting, except they won't die slowly of starvation and/or dehydration, they'll die quicker, which if they've been enslaved for weeks...
And before you say "but they can spar for food and water" again, well, there's far too many of the Equestrians, and far too few of the Chinese for that to appease them (all of Jin's men would get tired out sparring with them, before they sparred with even a tenth of them, even if they invariably lost to his men; it does not solve starvation and dehydration by any stretch), and the sparring thing would realistically be "too little, too late" to begin with, from the perspective of the Equestrians, if any of them could do the math.
5259213
Is Jin's strength enough to just kick straight through a concrete wall, or road?
No, it shouldn't be. I don't think freaking Arnold Schwarzenegger could do a feat like that. Metal pads aren't that much of a freaking multiplier against a six-foot tall dragon, and either way, Spike inexplicably didn't have time to react to Jin when he had him at a distance with a spear, so it's an uphill battle for him to close in.
Right, that explanation:
"He's that good against supernaturally strong opponents he didn't even know existed a month ago, and have only fought them in the last two weeks, just because I say he is."
So equally unworthy of being portrayed with that much competence?
I guess we'll be the judge of that one later, then.
When they're that horribly outnumbered, if that was having realistic consequences? Yes, I believe they could.
But can humans aim their rifles quickly and accurately enough to keep up with them? There's a reason you use birdshot against birds, instead of say, a .22, and this example would be that, but so much worse. It's been noted by experienced skeet shooters that actually hitting an RC plane going a maximum of 80 MPH (128.7 KPH) is hard, and skilled Equestrian fliers, like Rainbow Dash, or the Wonderbolts, can go faster than that.
You don't know what you're talking about, and it shows. The bullets are faster than them, but the shooters are only human.
If a Changeling shapeshifts into being say, a squirrel, or a dog, or a lot of other things, how does that mean you're detecting them as actually being Changelings? How and why do you think know none of them would be using stealth tactics like "shapeshift into a small animal, stalk them until they're spread out from the rest, then kill them," followed by possible impersonation, or at least equipment theft?
...That doesn't even make any sense.
If a Changeling is say, in an urban environment, and they hear gunshots going off (they're very loud, need I tell you, and cause permanent hearing damage without ear protection, if you're too close; can be heard at least a Kilometer/Mile away in a lot of cases), they can shapeshift then and there. This isn't like some video game where they'd only shapeshift upon seeing you for the first time, after you shot at them.
But they wouldn't just stand there and let themselves die. They should've at least been trying to take some of them with them, and succeeding. Also, airbases are vulnerable to sabotage, wherever the makeshift area for such is.
5259272
Then why isn't he dead, no Charlie needed? If he's "underestimating them," then he should've suffered the consequences in the Prologue, and have suffered a crushing defeat, when he fought the Mane Six, alone and personally.
You keep saying he "underestimated" them, but you've protected him from all plausible consequences up to this point, for the sake of the railroaded plot.
To put it into gaming terms, you essentially put a Terraria Player Character equipped with only a Copper Shortsword, Wood Armor, and 100 HP (Lieutenant General Jin), and proceeded to put him up against a Player Character with 500 HP, top-tier post-Moon Lord Armor, multiple top-tier magic weapons, accessories, and the best wings, and maxed mana (The Last Problem!Twilight Sparkle)... and somehow had the Player Character with the worst gear and lowest HP in the game come out on top, in direct PvP, without ever going to yourself "is this insulting to anyone who likes to see this character be portrayed as competent, strong."
That's before you even take her friends into account, who were almost equally insultingly curb-stomped.
Why didn't Fluttershy use the Stare on him, as opposed to the OOC charging attempt? Since when would Fluttershy be the one to charge in for "try to directly hit him," as a first resort?
You have no idea what it's like to aim at a moving target, if you're just taking it for granted "oh, just plain reaction time numbers obviously covers it if they're not a world record setting competition shooter." Most shots fired in combat miss for a multitude of reasons.
And where would these "fighter jets" be taking off from in the first place, then landing? Where's the runway?
"Silently?" What are you talking about? If it goes faster than the speed of sound, even if the gun is suppressed, there will be a sonic boom, caused by it breaching the sound barrier, which makes a very distinctive noise.
I don't know if you got that from some movies or video games, but that's how it works in real life.
You're taking it for granted that he'd never have the time to do anything before he died, which is a boring explanation, and a cop-out specifically designed to make dragons look more pathetic.
That doesn't help if the attack plan is actually really horrible and only works because the author thinks it would, as is portrayed here.
That is a "government" though (again, Mayors exist), and the Princesses are all intelligent, and they've heard of the concept of "delegating duties." Twilight could've effortlessly escaped Canterlot in the Prologue, with all of her friends (by teleporting out of her castle; see The Last Problem for proof of this, where she directly went to Ponyville in that exact way), and proceeded to use Guerrilla Warfare tactics, that is to say Hit-and-Run tactics, against the Chinese, which they would be very, very vulnerable to, considering the Chinese Army's small numbers, and her ability to teleport. It would be a brutally short war of attrition.
She's practically a sapient weapon of mass destruction on her lonesome, so good luck fighting her if she has her eyes set on sabotage, to say nothing of those who would be helping her.
5259331
So, what, did they teleport the planes into Equestria mid-flight in the first place, if they had nowhere to land them? If not, how did they take off? What are the limitations of that technologically implausible teleporter, if any?
Are you willfully ignoring what I'm actually trying to say?
That would be quite the amazing feat on the part of the Chinese, considering that I outright stated I'm talking about the Prologue, from before they got captured the first time. Twilight and Rarity did not have magic suppression rings on their horns in the Prologue, unless you're not telling us something.
I repeat: there's nothing that would've stopped Twilight from escaping then, to plan her next move, along with her friends.
So try again.
They don't need to just blindly charge in, when they'd have Twilight Sparkle and quite probably other powerful mages blasting them into oblivion before they can react, for the above reason. Twilight could say, sneak to some concealed position (especially when Master Mages like Twilight can presumably cast Invisibility Spells), strike in the dead of night (which, Twilight also has control over the day-night cycle), burn their barracks to the ground, or destroy their vehicles, or their encampments, then teleport away before they can retaliate, if she didn't just get them all, being as powerful as she is.
Rinse and repeat, until they're all either incapacitated, captured, or dead, they unconditionally surrender to her, or until they capture or kill her, neither of which would be an easy task if she's being careful, she's being paranoid, hiding in caves, forests, underground tunnels in her downtime.
She would also probably make an effort to determine however they entered Equestria (they attacked Ponyville first, so she'd have a probable lead on "Everfree Forest"), so they can't call for reinforcements, disable whatever means they used to enter, and failing that, set up guards around it so they can't easily get in, until she can take the measure of disabling it.
Any pegasi helping them could create heavy rain to make stealth be an easier task, as needed, along with lightning strikes as far as being destructive goes. And perhaps you could have Rockponies like Maud to create tunneling systems, for discreet movement, or Diamond Dogs (how do you round up tunneling experts? How do none of them slip away?).
Have you never heard of a Monarchy? How did you not know a Monarchy, or Diarchy (in the case of what Celestia and Luna were) are actually by definition forms of government? That's what it sounds like you're telling me.
5259382
...Portals? Well... that's... odd. I'm still wondering how the Chinese achieved this level of technology so quickly.
(and I think Jordan179 will have more to say on that topic later, perhaps)
You're again, missing the point. They can't stay airborne forever, they don't have the resources, and it's not the easiest thing, sniping in the dead of night, especially when they're in the sky, and I really want you to find snipers that can perform the task of say, "shooting at flying targets, that are moving, hidden behind clouds, and 900 meters in the air," the latter of which is... a large distance to begin with. It would be a rather unprecedented scenario, for marksmanship... (How much of the PLA have even seen a real war, anyway?)
And I think I'll call it: "Schrodinger's Jin," where he's supposed to be underestimating them, per your word, while allegedly directing the most expedient measures to be taken against them, in warfare, while the Equestrians simultaneously do nothing to oppose them competently, because you won't let them do so.
As for helicopters, well, they have to land sometime, and refuel, at which point they're definitely vulnerable to attack, and destroying them, or otherwise taking them out of the equation (also, capture or kill their pilots, depending on what you have to do, that's another strain on them, in multiple ways), is part of the War of Attrition, straining their resources, and helicopters are typically for ground targets, not small flying pegasi amongst the clouds.
Also, if the rain is going, the logistics of providing actual air support is less than ideal, even if they can avoid it the rain. Helps obscure the ground, and even if some pegasi did die in the process via helicopter (and I'm not sure that's practical, hunting flying pegasi down via helicopter)... it could very well be worth it, for the damage to the intended target they allowed to happen, the opening provided.
5259506
I think I first mentioned it in my post on the Prologue.
5261941
Do they ever suffer actual consequences for throwing around any number of them like an actual human child/lightweight woman? Are they portrayed as suffering manhandling all of them, in the routine acts of enslavement, throughout?
Yes, or no?
(Also, I strongly believe that Dragons weigh significantly more than a Human of an equivalent size, and Diamond Dogs would quite probably weigh significantly more on average, and adult Griffons quite possibly weigh more [has someone else done the math there? Hmm...], but they do have a multitude of physical advantages, either way, over humans, so it's not just Yaks, and there's still other cases to consider, regarding "sapient races stronger than humans," like the Buffalo)
A mundane, but useful advantage many of the races in their world would have is that, unlike humans, they naturally have good night vision, with no technology, which for Diamond Dogs would likely be the case (like real dogs), same for Ponies (like real horses), so that's something that would be exploitable, in a variety of cases.
If and/or when Jordan gets around to covering the chapter "Revelations" (I sincerely hope that he does, considering it's fun; I might end up reviewing it myself, if he doesn't continue this soon), I... will have words about that chapter, shall we say, about how it fits into the context of this story, because there's really quite a bit to say about that, about what it all means when you take that backstory into account.
Jordan, if you're reading this, a certain part of an earlier chapter, "Questions," will be relevant, regarding something Luster Dawn says, past the halfway mark; I think it would be an interesting topic for later, if you continue this, probably...
(relevant quote from that earlier chapter is below)
5262012
i.imgur.com/ejuTHOn.png
It's about the fact that they get to throw all of them around like children as their general enslavement MO (push them, drag them, grab them by their horn, etc), and don't suffer realistic consequences, as seen in multiple chapters.
...well, uh... beat a dog too much, and they bite back, like in this case, the Chinese have been doing with their genocidal confiscation of food?
(Each and every one of the Equestrians should've realized that the Chinese not giving them food and water is tantamount to attempting mass murder long ago, and be acting accordingly, and they'd know you might die for whatever arbitrary reason anyway, as has been demonstrated multiple times by Jin and his goons)
I mean, even if they're smaller than humans on average (not like we have much to go on, admittedly), perhaps even lighter, let's say (I'm guessing inaccurately) that they cap out at 150 lbs, they're still capable of being physically dangerous to humans.
Yes... and I'm aware of what this means for the story... especially considering some of the things that didn't happen before. But it's a talking point or three for another day.
5262888
Lol, what? Are you kidding me? Can real dogs dig that quickly, from what we saw in canon? Why'd they be meaningfully slower?
And how long did this... proposition take to make in story time?
And in any case, how have none of the Equestrians (especially somepony as smart and explicitly as good at it as Twilight Sparkle is) done the basic math to realize it's mathematically impossible to spar with all of them quickly enough to have this condition for food and water actually save even half of them in the long run, thus making an uprising rather appealing?
They highly outnumber the Chinese Army, the Chinese would get hurt, or at least exhausted while doing this, thus it'd be impossible for them to keep up with the sparring requests if they tried their best, even if they were doing it 24/7, in part due to the exhausting fashion with which they handle the slaves in the first place, that isn't being taken into account.
5263110
...wut? How did you come to that conclusion, that "not as fast as Velociraptor" means "humans can outperform them in speed and CQB?" What?
5264047
That'd be great... if they don't have the strength to pull you around with the riot shield, or aren't seriously outnumbered, or if they're quite probably physically inferior in at least one way.
...That makes it even worse actually.
Think about this from the perspective of the Equestrians: You get someone to spar with new recruits twice a week, and there's at least tens of thousands of you, minimum (Equestria is a big country, as are the surrounding lands), and they don't even get that much in return.
It's highly blatant that the Chinese at the very least want a lot of them dead through starvation and/or dehydration, and I'd argue it's quite possibly worse than Nazi concentration camps, how transparent it is, and they don't even have the same sorts of numbers going for them.
Hell, Jin outright says in Revelations, two chapters from now, that he has genocidal intentions, does he not?
5265469
I'm not sure why Charlie never seemed to make it a point of telling anyone anything like "Jin told me that his end goal is that he wants to kill you all, he made it perfectly clear," then. Imminent plans or not, that's kind of vital information.
selfish part of me is impatient regarding Jordan continuing the reviewing, but the generous (and realistic) part of me realizes he has no true obligation to do so, really, other than whatever satisfaction talking about it can bring.
So for no reason, other than "fun trivia someone could use as part of stories or something," aside from the "I hope the reviews continue" talk (I probably do still have it in me to do MSTing still, if I wanna do it myself), I guess I'll talk about an underrated magic user in the show, by all appearances, because why not: Sweetie Belle. I strongly suspect she's rather good at magic by unicorn standards, especially for her age, to say nothing of the hypothetical prowess of her adult self post-timeskip, considering I think she does have an interest in magic for its own sake.
Why, might you ask, do I think that? Well, aside from Flurry Heart, I'm pretty sure she's the only (or at least, among the very few) child unicorn in the show who was shown creating a magical barrier (Campfire Tales, in S7), even if it was rather weak, a season later, in S8, in a very easy to miss moment in Surf and/or Turf, she was shown casting Accelero, it wasn't "cartoon physics," she can actually use her magic to go that fast (timestamped that video), and in S9, she managed to pull off a teleport, even if it was rather unrefined and it seemed to hurt after, when temporarily aged-up artificially.
I dunno, I just thought that was an interesting, if mostly unrelated topic, because I'm not quite sure how commonplace it is, for Sweetie Belle to be portrayed as quite comfortably adept with magic, especially when she's older.
(Also should note that she did canonically have Twilight teaching her magic at at least one point, per "Twilight Time")
...y'know, why not, it's been a while since I've MST'd this.
(Where we last left off with our intrepid heroes, Sunburst got his "hoof broken," after he and the other two fought so unrealistically poorly against a human it's not even funny, because Jin is just that awesome apparently, that he knocks dragon teeth out with his only human strength, and manages to deal with magical attacks without issue, because they're not allowed to keep range advantages in mind, by virtue of authorial fiat)
Chapter 17/18: Alicorn combat
(formerly known as "Ten on one" or some such I think)
What, nooooo, I'd have thought she'd be happy because the chapter we just got off of was all sunshine and rainbows, no violence whatsoever... it basically just happened from a narrative perspective, so reminding us that it happened like that feels... off, in multiple ways.
"Oh wowza, she's crying, Imma offer her a chocolate bar! That oughta fix it if nothing else will!"
Also... why does he still have a backpack? No, really, why? Why wouldn't the Chinese have confiscated that from him, food included? They don't have any logical reason to let him keep it, because it gives him that much more opportunity to subtly be in possession of "potentially hazardous to the captors in the event of revolt" items. This is reminding me of how thoroughly stupid the Chinese have been in doing basic things, like them not confiscating Applejack's lasso, way earlier, with predictable results.
Not really sure what you could do, even with that magical healing spray (if they didn't inexplicably decide not to confiscate it), but okay.
You'll never rest until you unjustly one-up everyone we actually care about, while also being incompetent at the same time.
You really shouldn't be; you could've easily been written to be competent enough to deal with the threats Charlie dealt with while you stood by on the sidelines and did nothing to attack the Chinese (which is especially pertinent, considering the next chapter, but we'll get to that), and not fallen into diplomatic pitfalls, to say nothing of the other characters that stood by and waited like pissants in Ponyville until their recapture, instead of being allowed to do anything like accompany you on your journey, or split off to find help elsewhere, or a combination of both, with say, Twilight and a few others going one way, and such.
There's little to nothing to thank him for. He realistically wasn't irreplaceable on the journey.
Ugh... there just isn't much of a basis for a romantic relationship here. Especially considering "few days."
It's not like they've had time to grow closer, get to really know each other over say, a training arc where Luster Dawn taught Charlie how to use magic (because he got to instantly know what he's doing, moreso than Luster), or even had any occasion where Luster's taught Charlie about much of anything other than "exposition," whereas Charlie's gotten to Wikidump verbatim from Wikipedia multiple times to Luster, have her just wow over his technology, have both of them be ungodly prudish, and have Charlie be someone who'd realistically have built resentment on Luster's part on multiple occasions, but hasn't, by authorial fiat. She was supposed to be his guide, and she's taught him little about the fantasy world she lives in, including places she's lived at.
She's had little agency in the story. She rarely if ever contributes to fights, reduced to cheering on the sidelines, when she's supposed to have powerful magic (more on that later...), she can only be allowed to teleport after Charlie reminds her in the story, and she's not been allowed to say anything like "I really don't think we should go to Canterlot seeking diplomacy, the Chinese are murderous scumbags, haven't you been paying attention?! They cannot be reasoned with," because then that would prevent them from getting captured the way they did earlier.
...anyway, moving on.
...I thought you were supposed to be smart? You could've figured it out effortlessly via context.
I'm afraid the words "girlfriend" and "boyfriend" canonically exist in Equestria, and someone as studious as Luster Dawn should presumably know this.
But because I'm guessing the author didn't know that... that's more time to compliment humans for no reason.
(Moving on to tomorrow in-story)
...do what? Why did he have a sweet potato? Why didn't he have his food confiscated? Is he some "special guest" of Jin's? Why? Also, food doesn't magically remove exhaustion, this isn't a video game.
Suddenly, Wild Parents appeared! (again, it's a big place, so it's awfully convenient)
Why is he even there? He had a broken limb.
Oh Starlight, how I feel for you in this story, your power, intelligence, and skill not being respected...
Also, why did Charlie have to be the one to bandage him, as opposed to anyone else? From where did he get the bandages? He really is the only one allowed to do anything.
We get it, he speaks Chinese.
What, do you have experience with watching others work like that? You're fortunate that the Equestrians inexplicably haven't gotten an A+ Score on exsanguination via tearing your throat out by now, because of what they should've realized.
He was "satisfied" because he wasn't allowed to have his opponents use more than half a brain cell, by authorial decree. Also, still quite the pitiful offer.
Funny that you say Sunburst, because that brings a thought to mind, which I'll elaborate in a bit.
What a stupid question, if you heard her stomach rumble, and if she literally just said she was hungry.
Well, Equestrian ponies do have a larger diet range than real horses (and can vomit, unlike real horses), and in any case, real horses can eat meat to supplement their diets, on some occasions (not really by default, though).
What's wrong with this picture?
Starlight didn't volunteer to spar, for her own family, her friends, and out of a desire to avenge Sunburst's loss. She would probably volunteer to spar, after she found out that Sunburst's magic was unbound for that fight, and gone for the "oh, but we're so frail and weak, why are you so afraid of my magic" manipulation tactic if they don't immediately agree to let her fight with magic, try to play to their egos, which with Jin, if he's supposed to be underestimating them, would be so easy, it's child's play. (And don't get me wrong, I know merely winning a sparring match with a good number of soldiers around is... thinking too small, because it would be ample opportunity to bring down the basement ceiling down on top of the invaders, kill them all, after at least stunning them, which for a unicorn as powerful as her...)
But since Charlie is so much cooler, smarter, and braver than Starlight, who's fought with enough skill and power to cause problems against alicorn level threats on more than one occasion, has had powerful magic for something at least approaching three decades... he gets to do everything.
That is a disgrace to her character, that she isn't trying to plot against them like that. She does not fear death enough to have risking her life like that stop her from trying, as per canon. And it's not like she's the only one who this is disgracing by any stretch whatsoever.
(What even is it with dragging them by the horn?)
So now they're there, and...
Big Mac is there again.
(And it's still not even backhanded, and he shouldn't trust them enough to speak with that amount of length, as Jordan said)
[one fight scene that ultimately ends in a loss later]
...and Big Mac is dead now.
So Lin, in all of his infinite wisdom (it's not Jin this time, for once, lol), decided to immediately jump to murdering Big Mac, instead of doing anything non-lethal? Not even
askingordering him to stop? Are you shitting me? This would only make the Equestrians more likely to rebel, because Big Mac won the first fight, lost the second, and took what he earned the first time, and this asshat arbitrarily killed him, without him being adequately punished (though I'll note that Jin doing that exact thing Lin did would not have been surprising).Also, dragging Big Mac's corpse to the dungeon? Why is that, exactly? To burn the body?
So, guess you're just undeterred from seeing someone die for no reason, because you're that cool?
He's a Gary Stu, don't question it.
Why did he have that thing still?
So they get into a fighting stance only to charge? riiiiight...
Probably should've pasted his head.
(gonna skip forward a bit, not gonna lie)
(because he's just that good, that there's never any muscle memory difficulties)
Just a bloody face?
Victory, which are any of us surprised?
You did though, so what, are you trying to come across as a tough guy now?
Seriously, Big Mac died for little to no reason this chapter, other than for shock value.
How insulting, the notion that they'd need him to
rememberknow how to fight anyone. How's he fighting flawlessly with human martial arts in the body of a quadruped? The author just says so, and so it is!(I've been waiting to either do this, or for Jordan to do so, whichever came first, though the latter doing it is still definitely most certainly something I wouldn't mind happening)
Chapter 18/19: Revelations
What, did anything bad happen to him? Last I checked, no, he was not injured. What's with this overblown concern? Is it about the blood that isn't his, on his hooves?
Aside from gadgets not being anything new, how is any of that supposed to be overly impressive as worded? Is he saying he treated himself after contracting the regular Flu, the Common Cold? Also, what altercation? A debate over what movie was better that never got violent, just raised voices?
It's never explained why we're supposed to be impressed.
Pretty sure we all know where that's going.
Okay... what? Protecting him? Are you trying to make us feel disgusted with a stereotypically tragic OC backstory that doesn't factor into the plot very well? Why isn't anything Charlie's experienced in the Story dulled by the fact that he's seen violence before (not saying it'd be likely to be the case, but it could be a possibility), or factor into his overall psyche, his character, in a tangible way, in general? Also... "on his own?" How does this factor into his backstory coherently, with the "unrealistic genius" parts, like if he's ever had to deal with any financial difficulties, hindering his opportunities? Anything of the sort?
...how does "eight years old" factor into anything he said? What?
(One kiss and rubbing in the salt of Big Mac's stupid death later)
You really had to wait until now to realize this? Was the fact that she witnessed a mare getting executed for no reason among many other things not enough for Luster to realize this? An uninvolved dragon?
It's implausible both of them didn't realize this before. Luster should've known in the Prologue they can't be reasoned with, let alone before Charlie's brain-dead plan to negotiate even got past the Canterlot city borders, before they got captured, but because it's only Charlie's ideas that matter narratively, she doesn't get to have an opinion/thought process that doesn't line up with his meaningfully.
"Mating" huh?
What a disgusting mental image, all things considered (because one of them is Charlie, and both are poorly written).
Thankfully:
So Captain "Imma throw muh tracker to the ground dramatically, and charge in alone after kicking down the gates to capture two people" Zhou interrupts the moment to take Charlie to Lieutenant General Jin, because he wants to speak to him. Luster Dawn is left behind in the cell.
Oddly specific amount of time.
So now he's in the debriefing room.
That wall is still stupid beyond belief, and you already want them dead judging by your previous actions.
Also, how'd you win if you don't comprehensively know everything already, or at least most things that mattered? Why are you performing this research on their home turf? It takes a special kind of stupid to do that.
Genocidal egomaniac, Charlie, get it through your thick skull, idiot.
So Zhou almost removes him, but...
Well? You going to ignore each and every logistical problem with that stupid wall? Considering the facts that are true of this land and its various inhabitants? ...yeah you are, aren't you?
No, it's really not "impressive." I'm sure Twilight could've figured this out, and quite probably at least one of her friends, barring maybe the technical details of the guns.
After Charlie recaps the beginning of the Story, and what the wall is for:
I mean, really, what's complicated about any of this? I'm not sure I'd be fazed.
And again, it was unrealistically stupid to think that could ever work, to think that a peaceful outcome would've ever been the go-to option, under these circumstances.
Hmm... we're finally getting there, to what I've been waiting to bring up/see brought up (does said laptop have internet in this foreign land, one wonders, or if they're running off of a localized intranet)...
Almost there...
An "obliterated city," huh? Is this why Beijing didn't show up on the teleporter before Charlie arrived? (I know the answer's "yes," it's a rhetorical question)
Wouldn't dealing with the internal fallout of what happened to Beijing be a very pressing concern, like if any people in power died, any such political difficulties that arise, like to put forth a worst-case scenario (for the Chinese), if Xi were to die? Story never mentions this, or any of the other myriad of things this could or would mean, with the Capital of China essentially being nuked, with the inherent, unaddressed repercussions therein.
Also, because satellite images are a thing, no, you're not hiding that something happened, if it's that major, aside from any information quite possibly, nay, probably leaking on the internet, at which point it's too late, the rumor mills start running, if nothing else, among things like "nobody's been allowed in Beijing for X amount of time" or "I haven't heard from my relative(s) that lived/visited there for the same amount of time."
Still think the cover-up is that simple, even before you factor in that being on Hong Kong's news as described, nobody trying to record it, like on their phones or whatever, upload any of that anonymously?
So, "obliterated city," "thousands died," which is it? Also, just "hundreds wounded?" That's quite low on both counts.
That, my friends, is a pitiful attempt to humanize your villain who's been a complete shitbag the entire Story with very few, if any redeeming qualities shown or implied thus far. It's a bad sob story, the "my son died, so that's why I'm such an asshole" song and dance.
And now... for the Magnum Opus of an utterly nonsensical backstory, from here on out, and hoo boy it's a long paragraph, figuratively and literally:
Since when does magic leave anything behind physically, in MLP?
Based on what in canon? Why wouldn't it dissipate?
That doesn't make any fucking sense.
How did they figure out that a substance that they have never seen before is magic within three days?! That has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.
Even if you somehow figured out that was magic (assuming anything was left behind, which is itself questionable), how do your Omniscient Scanners figure out it came from another fucking dimension, at the very least another planet?
This is the 21st Century. This is extremely unbelievable, on multiple levels.
It's not like magic has a legible "Made in USA and here's how to get there" or "Made in Equestria and here's how to get there" label on it, and if it did, literally how did they figure it out, when they just discovered it existed?
This sort of thing would be the job of something/ someone like, a forensic thaumatologist, who actually grew up in Equestria, if it is possible to figure this out, not some nonsensical fantasy science on the part of the Chinese, unless you have a damn good reason for them being able to do these things.
He's right, it is ridiculous... very ridiculous. (oh, and only now is the paragraph over)
They, out of the blue, got their city "obliterated" (which feels like it should've had more consequences for the Chinese, but we don't get to see any beyond "they invaded Equestria"), yet when they somehow found out it was from another dimension, they didn't just do nothing out of fear, because they have no idea that it was anything anyone specifically did, and if they assume someone actively did it, that they wouldn't nuke their world repeatedly out of sheer terror, assuming they didn't realize how fucked they could be if they retaliated.
That backstory is completely nonsensical, especially for Jin's character, with how horribly liable he is supposed to be to underestimate others, when his backstory is entirely predicated on "Beijing got magically nuked."
The viewpoints of "Equestrians are frail," and "they destroyed a city of ours" are mutually exclusive to anyone with a functioning brain, and he'd have never defeated them if he was narcissistic and/or stupid enough to truly believe this was the case, that they're "frail."
A month of concurrent spying and training, and they were ready to fight another world's country, and the lands beyond it, with those types of numbers, as invaders ("platoon"), after only knowing magic existed for about the same length of time, with their first experience with it being "city obliterated."
Need I say more, or is it not self-evident enough how many holes in logic exist here, how suicidal everything about the Chinese's battle plans are, to say nothing of their methods of holding down territory were and are (or "nonexistent" in the case of "occupying territory"), with their strong emphasis on "enslave them," only being protected from logical consequences by the will of the author, in lieu of any plausibility?
And how fast was the R&D on that stupid teleporter that makes no sense? Why do horn rings even exist (like, could you even get it to work with any earthly materials? The answer could be "no" for all you know), let alone so rapidly? Neither of these questions could have sensible answers.
Also, this excerpt from an earlier chapter is very important to discuss, with the outlined backstory:
Luster Dawn accidentally "obliterated" a fucking city. Why is she, and others logically a lot more powerful than her so useless?
She should be killing entire companies like it's nothing if she did that by accident, not cheering from the sidelines while Charlie fights them, and she surely could've effortlessly defeated Jin in the first chapter, same goes for Twilight Sparkle and her friends. Luster Dawn could've pulled off multiple squad wipes effortlessly, putting Charlie's comparatively feeble martial arts to shame, in numerous chapters, but she didn't.
That the above fact plainly wasn't considered is terrible, and it doesn't even have the excuse of not following canon because ponies got nerfed here, because that's the Story's internal logic.
And Luster has no idea she did this at all, obliterated a city, so it's not something she feels crippling guilt over.
And how do you obliterate a city in another world by accident, while trying to make portals? What's the canon precedent for that?
And there it is. Jin is genocidal, folks. Which we already knew, mind you.
And it's apparent Jin does not know Luster did this, either.
So Charlie attempts to attack Jin, doesn't get very far due to Zhou, he gets called emotional, and...
(Finally)
And with that boast, the chapter is over.
That was supposed to be the backstory. But it made no sense, and the Story somehow one-upped itself in being nonsensical.
(Multitude of minor edits and additions have been made, like the bit about "thaumatologist" to elaborate, how implausible it would be to cover that up regarding Beijing, and de-emphasized a few words throughout [like deitalicizing].)
5267999
You couldn't have missed the actual point any more if you tried, which is that he shouldn't have that stuff anymore, because he got captured.
Even if they actually have something to gain?
Also, "suppressor ring" leads into...
So, if he thinks he's so much better, which would be obvious to literally anyone who's been around him, witnessed him, Starlight included, why wouldn't she think trying to goad him into sparring with her without the horn ring on has merit?
"Humans are supposed to be so much better than us frail ponies, right? Then why not let me fight you, at my best? Unless you're too scared, too much of a coward to prove it... you already beat my husband, what's one mare to you?"
That's especially relevant because he actually did that without being goaded in a later chapter, so it would've worked.
But you don't actually care about respecting any of the characters that aren't named "Charlie," as has been apparent from the beginning, since everyone else is a mere pawn in the grand scheme of making him look so much better than they are, for the sake of a very thinly-veiled power fantasy.
Luster could've helped too, for a similar reason, but Charlie just had to get all the glory to himself in your eyes, for no good reason.
You're telling me this as if I don't understand it, which I do understand. Stop insulting my intelligence by talking as if I don't understand.
I repeat: you, from an author's perspective, killed Big Mac for shock value, in a transparent attempt to piss us off regarding the Chinese. That's why you did it from a meta perspective, end of story, optimistically.
Say it with me: alicorns aren't bipedal humans, they're quadrupeds. He's suffered zero adjustment difficulties with a martial art designed for bipeds, and he's never had to actually work for victory in any of the fights he's been in, he's curb-stomped every opponent in every "real fight," whether it be because he's inexplicably better with remembering to use magic than the native inhabitants who grew up with it, whereas he learned it existed very recently, or because he never had to relearn how to walk, let alone fight. You hand him every last victory he's had on a silver platter, the same with all of his skills, for his convenience.
So in short, no, it doesn't hold up as an excuse, and you don't have to be a martial artist to see why.
(After the last chapter, which showcased a... highly questionable backstory for the story, we now pick back up on Charlie being taken back to his cell.)
Chapter 19/20: Challenge
I mean, really, this guy murdered Changelings on his way to trying to capture him. What is there to say? Trying to manipulate his sympathies? Because that'd be unlikely to work. What would he have said normally?
He's right, they shouldn't have invaded the land... but not for the reason he listed; there's a laundry list of reasons as to why it shouldn't have happened, least of which is "it's stupid from a pragmatic standpoint."
So now he's back in the cell with Luster Dawn, they kiss, she asks him how it went, and...
...While I'm not criticizing his decision not to tell her in and of itself (though it could make for an interesting character moment, her finding out what she inadvertently did without his input and/or at an inopportune moment), there's a problem with this: Charlie isn't telling her about something important. Jin told him to his face that his plans are genocidal. I guarantee you that a majority of people you put in this scenario would've made telling the other that a top priority, let alone someone who's supposed to be a supergenius like Charlie.
This goes beyond what both of them should've known by the time the 14th chapter was over, how anyone with a lick of sense would've realized that the Chinese can't and/or shouldn't be peacefully negotiated with, at least when they're not on the backfoot, or beyond how terrible Charlie is with diplomacy.
So anyway, moving on, Charlie and Luster decide to go to bed for more slave work tomorrow, when...
Well...
Who told you that Charlie, the narration that just said it, verbatim?
The Chinese would be stupid to overlook such an obvious hole in security, it goes without saying. Then again, their security track record has been horrible thus far, considering what happened early on.
Also, why is he allowed to still have a flashlight? Why would the Chinese let him keep it? It's not like they care about his convenience.
So Luster, instead of trying to do any thinking for herself, to show off her intelligence, or planning alongside him, complementing him, asks him what the plan is:
...What? No, no it isn't a great plan. How do you know that their cells would also have faulty slabs, that it would be that easy to remove them? How do you know yours isn't a freak occurrence? How do you know for sure it leads to the same sewers? That they lead there anyway? You're not even certain they go there.
It's also hilarious that only now is the plan to use Twilight Sparkle in the process of gathering allies, instead of, oh, I dunno, the 4th chapter of the story, after Twilight got healed up with Healing Spray? Nobody ever suggested that staying in Ponyville just to get captured again just might be counterproductive, because it involves doing absolutely nothing, and even if Twilight had a horn ring on and couldn't get it off, since Luster didn't have one (or it got removed, in which case Twilight's could've been removed, same for Starlight's), she could've reminded Luster to try to leverage her teleportation to help them escape.
I guess the author thinks Charlie is smarter and has more common sense than Twilight and all of her friends combined, when no, he really isn't smarter, and he doesn't have more common sense. This is artificially infantilizing all of them.
So Luster and Charlie go to bed, but not without sharing another kiss (that's twice in this chapter).
And how long would it take to spread the news realistically, one wonders?
"I really can't thank you enough Charlie, for reminding us of the idea that we can escape like we did the first time."
Seriously? Twilight hasn't been plotting an escape? Disgraceful.
And then...
"activated his horn," huh? Yeah, Jordan's already talked about that in this very blog post, along with why less-lethal is stupid on another occasion. Really, you'd think they'd have interrupted him earlier, too.
This confrontation is interrupted by Jin:
"Sure, I'll teach your bipedal men how to use martial arts that I've been using while utilizing the body mechanics of a quadruped."
Really, even if you somehow believed that his word meant anything, it would be an exercise in futility, trying to teach them, and just because you're an expert at something does not mean you'd be an expert at teaching it.
I'd wonder if you could also find a way to use this deal against them, too, considering.
Bloodthirsty Jin at it again. What's the exact purpose of killing him now?
This is then interrupted with:
Oh look, only now Twilight's trying to do something. Where were you in the Prologue, the 4th chapter? Did Charlie's nonsensical reason to exist get in your way?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the mare who's fought powerful supervillains on multiple occasions by definition has combat experience, knowledge, and she wasn't even a Fledgling Alicorn at the start. A nonmagical human is nothing to any of that.
I'm pretty sure this is out of character, for at least most of them.
You think the likes of Rainbow Dash and Starlight would advocate she give up without fighting? If anything, it would be more realistic that they'd encourage her, and/or try to exploit Jin's overconfidence to be in a position to fight alongside her for those so inclined, which the majority of them are.
Twilight should've never lost to Jin in the first place, but that's another topic.
Pretty sure she'd be aware that she can't trust him to keep his word, if that became relevant.
And with that end to the chapter, Twilight will duel Jin, with none of her friends having even tried to play to Jin's gargantuan ego and fight alongside her, which even if she could effortlessly wipe the floor with him without help (realistic scenario), is inexcusable OOC cowardice.
(from where we left off, Twilight is going to fight Jin...)
Chapter 20/21: Jin An Rong vs Twilight Sparkle
The author still thinks they could sell the idea of dragging a full-grown alicorn, when ehhhhh... not really no.
You should know by now this bodes poorly... for Twilight.
So Jin wants there to be a decent audience for this.
...And have it recorded.
So they're gathered into the sparring room, sat down, and Jin has the following preparations, which will be a point of discussion later:
(right, as if any of that could save you)
Okay then...
"I really appreciate you giving me a sporting chance. That's all I needed," Twilight said, before igniting her horn. In a flash, before anyone could react, she was gone... leaving her wing restraints behind to clatter on the ground, to which Jin was dumbfounded. The building was demolished in the next twenty seconds, killing them all before they could escape.
...Nah, that's not what happened, sadly, here's what actually comes next:
Oh, really now, you think his vest could save him from being injured from a demigoddess, not even severe blunt force trauma, if he's being sent flying backwards, if it more realistically didn't kill him by piercing his body, or blowing him up?
Word of God on the previous excerpt, and the text to come is as follows:
...Yeah, I think I should continue on, I think you know where this is going.
Because the author is arbitrarily nerfing you into oblivion, Twilight. Never mind the fact that you temporarily bodied someone supernaturally durable, caused them to lose a tooth, when a shovel shattering against their leg did nothing, when you were less powerful than you're supposed to be here, to say nothing of it being all but certain you're supposed to be more powerful than Luster Dawn, who "obliterated Beijing."
But sure, someone who's only human can get back up after attacks that would easily shatter every bone in their torso, if not vaporize them, depending on how pissed off she is, which she's watched him murder others on numerous occasions, which would fuel her magic with anger.
No teleporting out of reach immediately upon or before block? No shields so he'd hurt himself trying to punch or kick you?
It's embarrassing how nonsensical this is.
Twilight's telekinesis is powerful, it really is, unless you think a giant Ursa Minor and a water tower filled with milk that weighs many, many tons would be outperformed by a human's punching, at even a tenth of S1 Twilight's power. You think Jin could lift this, or punch with more power? There'd be nothing Jin (or any of his men) could do against a Freeze Spell, because he doesn't have the super strength and/or magic to make that not work, there's nothing he could do about being trapped in a crystal, there's nothing he could do if Twilight trapped him in a shield, there's nothing he could realistically do about how innately durable and innately strong she is supposed to be as an alicorn of Celestia's stature.
But sure, Jin's just so kewl he can outperform Twilight's magic, with his non-magical strength.
No, how about you stop being protected from logical consequences by the author's railroading that's been in play since the Prologue?
This isn't possible. This is complete bullshit.
So what, you expect me to think he can outperform an alicorn's supernatural physical strength that goes beyond how big she is, that Twilight, instead of aiming for his limbs to disable them one-by-one, then proceeding from there, or showcasing more magical variety that we know she has (like teleportation) other than "just shoot at them," would drop all of that in favor of trying to physically hit him, when goaded?
This is terrible, and I find it doubtful that he'd be able to get the chance to body slam her without her casting any magic to stop this. She could've defeated him long before now by throwing him up into the air, then just letting gravity defeat him, after he's slammed into the ceiling, or just casting a gravity spell on him and winning that way.
But this isn't a logical or sensible story, where Twilight's allowed to be intelligent against a foe without magic, or at all.
You can't tell me Twilight wouldn't have been thinking about how best to fight someone if she by any chance got her magic unbound, if she's had any time to properly plan, even as a fantasy.
Bull. Shit.
If Twilight was having this much trouble in close range, she would be keeping her distance, constantly harassing him nonstop with her magic, disabling his limbs as previously mentioned, if she inexplicably couldn't get through his vest (which is complete hogwash, lest we forget so soon). Why couldn't she transform him into a frog, or a potted plant? An egg so she could squash him?
This is pathetic, insulting. Not only did you fail to possess the decency to make her loss plausible, but then you have her be severely beaten down to rub in the salt.
You really don't care whatsoever about respecting any of the characters that aren't named "Charlie," and as such, this is one of the most disgusting things I've had the displeasure of reading recently.
If it were Chrysalis doing this (under certain circumstances where she'd have enough power), I could understand it, if it were Nightmare Moon doing this, I could understand it, among others I didn't list, but not a fucking mundane human, who doesn't have super strength, who doesn't have superhuman durability, who doesn't have magic.
This? This is character assassination.
This villain shouldn't have been able to beat Twilight here, nor should he have won in the Prologue against the Mane Six and Spike, and I don't care how you try to "rationalize" it, because there is no reasonable explanation for this. You don't care about Twilight being appropriately competent, and it shows.
Twilight realistically didn't need Charlie to defeat Jin, or the absurdly small force that invaded Equestria, and nothing will change that fact. The entire premise is terrible on many levels.
...So anyway, Twilight is taken back to the work area.
Hmm... "a broken hoof, three bruised ones," so Story can't even keep up with exactly how it's tortured a character, like, literally one scene ago, unless only now does she have a healing factor, which I doubt.
I hate your entire existence as a character specifically designed to eclipse Twilight and all of her friends, that are all vastly more interesting than you could ever dream of being, and all the power and alleged smarts in the world being given to you won't change that. You will always be an overpowered idiot given too much prominence by the narrative, and the same applies with Jin.
And with that, the chapter is over.
That wasn't the easiest thing to review, because my word did that go out of its way to be as insulting as humanly possible, especially coupled with the previous chapter, and how none of Twilight's friends tried to exhibit a shred of bravery, to back her up.
(In recap, I'd gotten through... one of the most insulting chapters in this story, and that's saying something, because Jin curb-stomped a Master Alicorn Mage, even with her using her magic.)
Chapter 21/22: Escape
Stop it, this isn't going to be appealing no matter how many times you contrive "fell on top of them."
Also, "jerks," you couldn't come up with anything better?
The kiss was ten seconds long two chapters ago, as well, I should note, as a useless tidbit. And poor Luster, waiting for this guy to take initiative, instead of doing something independently. I mean, you know the floor's loose, you were there.
...I think I'll post a nice Luster Dawn ship image, as a palate cleanser, if you don't mind.
I think that helped.
So, in summary... the Chinese didn't fit Charlie with a magic suppression ring, even when it's nighttime. Need I say more about how inconceivably stupid this is? Even aside from how laughably easy it was to escape from the cell, even if he didn't have magic? This is terrible video game logic, on multiple levels.
And no, that isn't a good cause to blush, Luster.
What did you think "Step Two" was, Luster? It's common sense what happens next.
But the "how" is a decent question.
Okay then...
No, really, why does he still have them?
Good God, what? There's a direct sewer passage in their cell? And they crowded all of them into the same cell? What would've stopped Spike from clawing his way through there, exactly?
So they all leave the cell, through that escape point.
I'm pretty sure you could've done that part of the step yourselves, with that pitiful ease of getting out, with Twilight and her friends, on their lonesome. This is disgusting, how little agency they possess.
And it's sad how Rarity had less of a protest to entering the sewers than Luster Dawn did in an earlier chapter (which I'll note the distinct lack of hesitance here, in this chapter, on Luster's part), even if I do believe she would've done it, either way.
We get it, they're oh-so-impressed. It's not like Twilight's dealt with magical AI before or anything, that the Chinese would have no counter to Luna targeting them with something like that, by the by, because they'd have to sleep sometime.
"I mean, I decided to hoard all of the initiative to myself, so you're less proactive than a mountain, so don't be too grateful, guys."
So they all leave through the area Charlie went in.
So you didn't put a magic suppression ring on either of the two? Holy shit this is stupid on the Chinese's part.
And he's only "suitable" because she isn't allowed to possess brain cells around him, allowed to rightfully take offense to anything he says or does, and you're (Sunburst and Starlight) not allowed to possess any for that matter, stuck shilling him as you are.
Oh look, artificial tension, they didn't decide to systematically teleport at least the important ones far away from there, if getting all of the masses out of there was too exhausting, and however the Chinese tracked them down.
Like we'd really be fortunate enough to have the "Charlie" in "Charlieverse" taken away forever.
...did you really just...
Story really just ripped off The Ending of the End.
And no, Charlie should apologize, for being a fucking moron with diplomacy, except maybe regarding Thorax, because he was acting supremely Out of Character in that chapter, on multiple levels.
(Although, aside from stupidity, there was that gate incident)
You shouldn't be laughing Jin, because now Charlie is going to allow them to be competent for once, assuming he doesn't hoard to himself the competence, which I'm assuming will be disproportionately his.
Oh look, that stupid Talisman That Doesn't Make Any Sense As To Why Twilight Had It.
And how dare you. The sheer gall that Story has, to not only rip off The Ending of the End, but then go on to rip off that Avengers Endgame quote, and then obnoxiously point it out, as if we're going to find him oh-so-awe-inspiring, like you might with Captain America. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't infuriating.
With that, the chapter is over.
(We're almost to the end)
Chapter 22/23: Friendship vs economic superpower
We get it, Charlie didn't deserve to say those words, make such a reference, and he was allowed to do so.
Oh joy, now his moronic plot trinket is helping him through this one.
We're still not impressed with him as a character.
Why is he the only one who can use it? Who made it? This is unpleasantly reminding me of terrible HiE stories where they, humans that have nothing to do with Equestria, have a 7th Element of Harmony.
So Jin orders them to fire at will...
Where was this before? Why didn't Twilight do this at the beginning? Why did they need Charlie?
Is Story trying to make me laugh? Because it's not working.
...What the fuck? Where was this when they first invaded? No, really, why didn't that happen to Jin? Is there a logical explanation, or is this arbitrarily happening because this serves the plot? Take a wild guess which one I wholeheartedly believe.
You know, a thought comes to mind, why aren't your injuries being so much as mentioned here, Twilight? Where was this earlier, when you dueled Jin?
"Only lost thirty men?" Considering your woefully inadequate manpower as noted on numerous occasions, that's laughable.
Jin's a moron (as we all knew by now), for the following reason: he stationed no one out there, waiting for his word to call for reinforcements from Earth?
He would've been far better off having a base of operations stationed very near the entry point if he was doing that.
I'm still not impressed by the Trinket of Plot Convenience. This is a terrible power fantasy. I'd guess the author has never watched a video like this, and taken anything that might be at least somewhat relevant to heart. (I'd take this timestamped part to heart, regarding events set in motion earlier, for one thing)
At what range is this? Why would you need to order them to do so if they're probably in plain sight, and the sniper can presumably hear the gunshots?
...Is this supposed to be making us laugh? That the SWAT officer (not "unit") would be prioritizing shooting children, as opposed to those fighting back against him, who are a more immediate threat? Also, "committed a treason," and how cartoonishly stupid and improbable shooting yourself in the head with a rifle when you're not trying to do so typically is.
Where was this physical superiority earlier? In any case, pretty sure your grip would likely be lost before a knife got broken.
Why didn't this happen to Jin earlier, what happened to Lin?
Y'know, if you're gonna be that ambiguous with where he was wounded, you may as well say "torso" or alternatively, some horse relevant term.
Also, we're not gonna see him die. It's glaringly obvious.
And you were an imbecile to let him live, much less leave the area without being apprehended by the King whose subjects you witnessed him murder.
Y'know, at this point, I think it's condescending to call her "kid."
Also, what's wrong with blowing his head off with magic? If you haven't really been instructed on using a gun, and have powerful magic, it's kind of redundant, adds needless complication, increased probability of missing.
Story can't even let Twilight have this?
Magic > ramming into them. Easy.
It was pitiful how he got to one-up Twilight again, only for her to need Charlie to save her.
And what is it with them speaking in unison?
You know, you guys could've held him in place, stopped him from doing that. In fact, it'd be stupider not to hold his arms in place. Definitely not satisfying, that end, so anticlimactic.
He was a genocidal egomaniac who murdered others for no sensible reason, killing slaves that weren't noncooperative at the drop of a hat.
In case you thought the nonsense was over, well...
Oh yay! It's gone, finally... where did that stupid thing even come from?
You thought it was bad that it CTRL + Z'd the destruction? But wait! There's more!
...It's that cheap of a Reset Button. I don't necessarily mind resurrection on principle, but come on, this wasn't foreshadowed in the slightest. It came entirely out of left field, because "yay, Charlie's so awesome!"
I have a bridge to sell you, if you think this would actually happen, that the story would ever go through with this.
Considering that Story arbitrarily decided you were the only individual who possessed initiative, agency...
So Chapter ends with him being taken back to the castle for treatment, on Twilight's back (did her injuries ever factor into anything, after that chapter where she got them? I don't think so).
(Where we last left off, the Chinese were beaten in such a way that you question why it didn't happen in the Prologue, and the BS Reset Button was pressed)
And now, for the second-to last chapter, both of which are noticeably shorter than a few previous ones:
Chapter 23/24: Prince and protector of Equestria
I'm fairly sure that, y'know, cross-dimensional portals are a thing, as per the premise ("obliterated Beijing"), if he wanted to get back to Earth, which we all know that he wouldn't choose to do so if he could, because that's always how these stories go, with the oh-so-tragic parent deaths in the backstory (as if it weren't often lazily done, as it is here).
It's like I said: did you really think that Charlie was gonna die? We didn't even get one paragraph of the story pretending there'd be tension as to whether he lived or not, in this chapter.
So I suppose we start out with Charlie going to Twilight's castle for a surprise.
They kiss, the door is knocked on, and...
I can't help but still roll my eyes at Charlie's similes.
So Charlie arrives, to much fanfare, which leads to...
Surely Luster Dawn will disagree with that viewp-
...oh, right, it's this story. Yeah no. Jin, from what her perspective should by all rights be, was a racist, genocidal scumbag, which is basically objectively true.
But if she disagreed with Charlie, that would mean her not being his Yes-Mare that mindlessly fawns over him for each and everything he says for no good reason, and it would mean conflict. She witnessed Jin commit senseless murders, he caused them on a large scale, even if they were ultimately undone, and she doesn't even know the reasoning behind this (that don't get me wrong, inspires zero sympathy either way). Nobody deserves your respect for their mere existence if they're like that.
"Two couples" huh?
...also, what did he think a castle would be like, since he's supposed to be so smart?
So they've arrived in the castle, briefly admire it (not much of substance), and now, they're in the throne room.
Are you gonna keep rubbing in that Reset Button Talisman of Plot Convenience? For which there probably can't be a good explanation regarding how, why, when it existed, and who created it?
So pleasantries, and the announcement:
...Holy long paragraph, Batman.
In order: Unaddressed Talisman Origins, which resulted in an Instant Expert Alicorn, Charlie is an absolutely worthless diplomat, no, they weren't forced to go back to Canterlot, you didn't need him to be inspired to have the will to survive, Stupid Reset Button, and a death we all knew wouldn't happen.
I'd really hate to see this guy help rule the land and deal with anything diplomatic, judging by his track record.
Actually, Charlie, you were right the first time: it is preposterous.
You're an ignoramus who's only gotten by on multiple occasions by the will of the story wishing you to be above consequences, whether it be conveniently seeing a news report that shouldn't exist based on China attacking Equestria, conveniently hacking into the Chinese teleporter based off of a YouTube video and remotely using it, conveniently being one of the only ones who set out on the journey, despite you being 100% unqualified and there being a good opportunity for the others to come along, conveniently turning into an alicorn with a plot trinket, conveniently being an expert martial artist that can unrealistically fight off multiple opponents after conveniently never needing to adjust your muscle memory in the slightest and relearn how to move, conveniently knowing how to use magic instantly, conveniently being the one to remind Luster she can teleport, conveniently not being executed after walking straight into enemy territory without a backup plan and being captured, conveniently not having your magic restrained by the Chinese, conveniently having an easy escape route due to the sheer incompetence of the Chinese, conveniently not having your technology confiscated when you were captured, conveniently having backup arrive in the nick of time, after you thoroughly botched diplomacy, and conveniently having the plot trinket shift into being a powerful weapon.
So in conclusion, no, you don't deserve this Royal Title, and especially not being declared the "Element of Tactics," and you never will. You didn't earn it, because everything was handed to you on a silver platter, by the narrative that favors you so much.
And so they go outside to party, and the chapter ends with a hug.
Just one more, the Epilogue.
(And now... the Epilogue for the alleged "Element of Tactics." It's been a long time coming, but I've actually finished reviewing this. If Jordan has a good opportunity to finish it [technical difficulties are a plague, and I can empathize with the point of a computer being out of commission], I certainly wouldn't mind by any stretch whatsoever if he continued doing these, if he had a good opportunity to do so in the future)
Chapter 24(?)/25: Epilogue
(because in Jordan's eyes, the "Epilogue" might not count into the chapter numbers, regarding the "?")
First off, wowza, that's a timeskip... also, did Luster Dawn ever find out that she accidentally nuked Beijing? I know the answer to that question is either "no," or it's just entirely unaddressed.
Aside from Luster being predictably wowed (she doesn't have a personality here, or at least, not a compelling one), it really rings hollow, considering how easily Charlie utilized magic in this story, very soon after learning it existed, and considering how this story most of the time acts like Equestrians never fought against anyone in the history of ever, judging from how everyone acts. It strongly gives that impression, at least.
Also, as if it's a given their world doesn't have different languages.
Do I even need to explain how boring it is to say "dating each other for X amount of time, nothing ever went wrong" is? No ups and downs in a relationship? Just pure "perfection?" Of which I'm basically certain involved Luster Dawn being Charlie's Yes-Mare in her views, with how much she worships him?
I really pity you, Luster, for suffering that fate regarding a reality-warping Gary Stu.
One does wonder how she became an alicorn, if it was just handed to her in the same way that he became one.
So the marriage happens, yada, yada, yada...
Heh, ten years later, and "student." Also, "foal who will replace them," what? Are-have you been replaced, Twilight, as ruler?
Or is it a "it will happen?"
So anyway, they do marry, and they dance to one of Charlie's songs that he chose from his world...
So skipping to one year later I see.
With a child.
Translation: the author saw a movie they thought was cool, and made a blatant reference to the title.
Really can't help but wonder just how many ways they're possibly a stand-in for the author, with Charlie.
If you say so...
Oh no! It's a Sequel Hook!
Should I even bother asking about the logistics of any of this? Like why the Chinese didn't decide to send more troops to investigate after they had Jin and his troops mysteriously disappeared for good, were never heard from again? Because as far as we can tell, they did not have that stupid teleporter disabled for good. Why the Hongkongers know about any of this?
Why their police force is suddenly becoming an army to invade another world, when that ain't in the job description?
This, like the rest of the story, simply does not work. A sequel would almost certainly arbitrarily nerf Equestrians again, to have an excuse for the story to be a thing, regardless of how little merit it actually has.
There is no way to redeem the "Charlieverse" at this point; it's practically unsalvagable.
And with that (it's the ending of the story)... I am signing off, regarding the "review chapters" part, though I am not saying I'll never discuss it again, like if Jordan did new blog posts on the topic, doing his spin on it, with its respective merits (yeah, unless I'm told otherwise it's not his fault, with the computer thing, and I'd hold no resentment over that either way, for it would be stupid to).
...never thought I'd reach this point. It truly is official, how the existence of several powerful characters were ignored entirely in this story, aside from how the ones who did appear were arbitrarily nerfed into oblivion, except when it makes Charlie look good, or otherwise benefits him.
5269800
So... why does that make what's happened here have any more validity?
It's still inexcusable in this story, even if it's not as bad in a sequel. It still means the story it is a sequel to is... nonsensical.
That just raises further questions.
Why would he have them still?
That doesn't make it sensible in the least. The explanation is bunk, end of story. Jin doesn't have the strength of forty ponies, he's physically inferior in a multitude of ways...
But sure, keep telling yourself that she could have her loss adequately rationalized by that, and that it isn't insulting to her as a character, that it isn't insulting to the reader, who might actually care about Twilight being competent.
It's indefensible, whether you like it or not.
That totally accounts for and excuses Jin defeating a dragon in one hit, that is to say with one physical attack each, a case of elbowing, and kicking, respectively, on two occasions, or the Chinese not suffering any consequences acting the way they did, with the myriad of logistical concerns they safely ignored...
You don't get it, and at this rate, you never will.
I know what happened. Stop insulting my intelligence.
I was throwing shade at the wording, which is bad on multiple levels, and how ludicrously stupid/improbable that was to the point you can't take it seriously.
How often is such a thing relevant in ruling, when he's the only human in Equestria? You don't see advisors being made the ruler just because they might have a niche they fill.
Based on how much we know for certain? It also doesn't really mean much more than "trivia" when the main character is only bilingual as far as we know, and he couldn't know a significant fraction of those.
So... who's policing Hong Kong while they squander their numbers like this?
You should've listened to Crimmar when they talked to you about this in a HiE thread. Really, you should've listened to what they said multiple times.
5267955
Thanks for taking the bullet and finishing this series up. Hopefully Jordan will be able to cover the rest as well.
5275409
You're welcome, and thank you for thanking me! :)
I sincerely hope so too, that Jordan can cover the rest of it.
While I'm kinda sure my reviewing style has its merits, Jordan is definitely better in some tangible ways (for instance, profanity isn't necessarily the ideal thing to use, even if it may or may not have worked for me there), he's more knowledgeable/experienced, and he unquestionably has a larger audience.
To be honest, I was rather shocked how much reviewing that Twilight vs Jin chapter affected me, how much it got me riled up. I thought that certain prior chapter was something nothing could approach... but damn. There was just something about that which kinda cut deep, in all the wrong ways, when actually reviewing it...
As for a couple notes that I didn't mention regarding the last few chapters, you'd think Starlight would've been namedropped more than once, and actually factor into anything specific at least a few times, for the climax, and you could certainly say the same thing about other characters that were there, but weren't acknowledged (like for just one example of many, a surprisingly adept unicorn, as mentioned above, in the form of older Sweetie Belle).
It was also notable throughout the entire story how Gallus being a Royal Guard post-timeskip was never so much as mentioned, not even in the Prologue, since he didn't fight anyone, including Jin, in hand-to-claw, or anything of the sort, because he was just lumped in with the "Young Six" like "oh by the way they're all captured," and that was basically it, no further elaboration whatsoever. They were just setpieces that meant absolutely nothing. I'm not sure any of them were ever individually named on any occasion, and definitely weren't involved in anything that mattered, as far as we could tell.
There's also how that one joke about the unicorns looking like they're "trying to poop" raises the question if most, maybe even any unicorns had ever tried to use magic against them during the initial invasion, which is... definitely odd. (so what else is new, between tonal whiplash and big questions?)
5275617
I'll admit that my sense of tact perhaps hasn't necessarily been the best in all of this. I've arguably let myself get too frustrated in regards to this.
It's nothing personal, and I have seen authors deal with it in a worse manner overall, but on some level, I do find it a bit annoying, the tendency to double down and explain whenever something... rather questionable happened, and it also not working as an idea.
Even if it may annoy me regarding how it goes in the story (I do find it fun to discuss though, something which I do presume Jordan, and others feel the same way on some level)...
In any case, I'm not looking for an apology from you by any stretch (it would be petty for me to demand one), and I'm not going to browbeat you into making one. You haven't committed any real personal grievances against me, or anyone else really, and I don't have sufficient cause to think you're a bad person based on anything.
I just hope you're capable of internally admitting to yourself some of the fundamental problems with the story, chiefly (but not limited to) that an Original Character protagonist is overshadowing canon characters' initiative, their power, their intelligence, their competence, until it serves the main character's big moments for them to not be helpless, because the world is written to revolve around them by authorial decree (and another aspect often seen with this, is how the OC is an empty vessel devoid of a compelling personality and/or character arc, having abilities up the wazoo [meaning large amount] bestowed upon them at will for basically existing in a narrative sense, and also prestige for every little thing they do, whether it's actually warranted or not [see how some characters, Luster Dawn especially, basically worship Charlie, and also how nobody ever disagrees with his plans without being in the wrong narratively, because he's inexplicably basically the only one with the "good ideas"; I can't think of one time where Luster ever say, questioned his plans on the basis of them being foolish, he's just always right, in her eyes, and he never gets called out on his mistakes, in general, even aside from her], which in my opinion [that I think Jordan would agree with] describes Charlie Lam to a tee), or that if you're not capable of internally admitting it, that you'll grow to do so eventually, after gaining the perspective to do so, and if or whenever you do so, that you'll end up learning from previous missteps, mistakes, in the writing process, and admittedly, I very well might not be going about this in the most ideal way, because I did let exasperation get to me while addressing you directly, at least once.
(Also, as an added point, if it's needed, doing research to write something... don't just skim Wikipedia [especially not copy and pasting verbatim] and call it a day, you should generally commit to it more than that)
And to be clear, by "internally admit to yourself," I mean to self-reflect on the matter, not just pay lip service and tell us that you've done so, while actually gritting your teeth because "these critics are out to kill my self-worth," and taking none of it to heart (which I sincerely hope hasn't happened, with the self-worth, because I'm not trying to go for that, being completely destructive with criticism).
I don't necessarily expect a reply to this, really, nor do I expect or ask you to nuke the story (in fact, please don't), or desperately try to edit it into being something else as if it's something easily fixed at all (it's like applying Scotch Tape to a leaking dam, kinda, where the proverbial dam is the premise). I only ask that you think about some of this, whether it happens now, or down the line.
You're free to write whatever stories you want, we can't stop you, just don't expect to improve much if you never take the fundamental problems to heart, after coming to realize what they are, and endeavor not to make the same mistakes again later.