• Published 28th Jul 2018
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Bat Ponies Aren't Real - Ice Star



Cadance and Luna are both well aware of what a bat pony is, but Luna claims that they aren't real. What could the reason behind this possibly be?

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They aren't!

Cadance blinked at the spines all around her. Canterlot Castle was filled with many libraries, book-nooks, and archives, but Luna's various studies and personal libraries were not like most of the others that Cadance had seen in all her time in the city. Auntie Celestia had rows and rows of books on nothing but politics and law, with only her personal libraries bearing any kind of titles for leisure reading. Every offense possible could likely be found within the covers of those dull, rambling volumes her aunt kept on the higher shelves, where not Faithful Students could reach them. Twilight always knew how to recommend books for just about anypony, but Cadance had spent enough time around her favorite sister-in-law to gain a mild interest in the manner. She was fond of knowing what the heart of somepony's entertainment choices said about somepony's living, true heart.

As she did her browsing, Cadance noticed that even the spines of Luna's books were different. Everything about them was, really. First off, there were far more books than there were in any of Auntie Celestia's personal libraries, clearly boasting who the bigger reader was. Shelves were overcrowded with everything, and there was a drastically less sunny, social vibe than in Auntie's libraries. There, books felt more like furniture than the centerpiece of everything. Such a thought was clearly disregarded by Luna, who had model airships, buffalo dreamcatchers, classical paintings, and framed maps with ornate writing so old that Cadance couldn't even read the names when squinting decorating non-book surfaces.

Cadance had stopped questioning how it was Luna managed to obtain so many unusual volumes in such a short span of time since her return. She had come to accept there were many mysteries to Luna she would never be able to make heads or tails of. She was, however, a bit curious about the age of some of the thicker books. They looked positively ancient, and aside from archive materials within their respective locations, Auntie Celestia rarely kept anything more than ancient law books, since so many of the laws from the dawn of Equestria as a nation were still in place.

Titles jumped out at her, boasting a vast assortment of promising adventures: magic theory, dramas, meditation, smithing, botany, warcraft, history, mental health, spells, crime, poetry, old sagas, various bestiaries both ancient and modern — and quite a few books on various parts of opera, to top it all off! Extra curious, Cadance had discovered when she carefully withdrew the volumes from their cozy nooks, she would be greeted by the carefully painted covers depicting elegant costumes and opera houses, including Canterlot's own grand Globetrotter Theatre. She made a mental note to ask Luna more about them, hoping that they could look over them together, as one musical enthusiast to another, and that Luna would have a story to spin.

Cadance had learned some time ago, that Luna's bookshelves were always likely to be barren of the romance that Cadance was always craving to converse about. Even a bad romance novel could bring the best laughs to ponies.

What really caught her eye, however, was something towards what was clearly a fiction section that housed the epics, tragedies, and thick books in nearly every genre except romance — that was always worth grumbling over, at least a little! It was an older piece, but not remarkably so, and likely only so much older than Cadance's own parents. Some edges of the faux leather cover had been worn, but Cadance didn't doubt that Luna had laid proper preservation enchantments on the book when it fell into her hooves. Luna boasted about secondhoof book finds like Auntie Celestia chatted about tea ceremonies and which new recruit had caught her eye.

The letters, though, were still quite clear, giving the title as Equine Races and Their Legend, Vol. 3.

It absolutely did not strike Cadance as something that should be in the fiction section, and her muzzle crinkled in confusion. She had encountered various other volumes in the series in the non-fiction area of this particular library, and while Luna was no Twilight Sparkle, she sorted her books well. Each volume in the series gave a history of traditions, other cultural quirks, curious health information, and overviews of the various equine races — both those that were real or considered legend — and an examination of various myths and folklore about and within each pony race, creating an odd sort of anthology.

Volumes on pegasus ponies, earth ponies, and unicorns were easy to find, and the ones on zebra, donkeys, mules, breezies, sirens, and sea ponies were as well. However, Luna somehow wasn't able to get her hooves on a volume about the mysterious Alicorns — if one even existed, knowing how elusive the gods were. Due to what information was available at the time the silly old things were published, there were no volumes about crystal ponies — or even ponies like Cadance herself, because there were no 'lesser alicorns' that came before her. Auntie Celestia had said so.

Oddly enough, changelings — and qilin — were erroneously considered 'equine' by the author. Flipping through the pages of one volume had revealed to Cadance that they had clearly botched their description of the changeling hive structure, as well. Though, Cadance didn't blame them. Few wanted to get close to a changeling hive — if they could find one at all.

Admittedly, she had spotted a few other volumes dotting the fiction section in public libraries, since the series was not entirely unfamiliar to Cadance. She had learned a lot about her pegasus roots from reading volumes like from book-carts that stopped in her hometown. But, it made sense that somepony would see a book about flutterponies or kelpies and know that they belong with fiction.

But this one? The small bat's wing that Cadance spied on the spine was peculiar — and that was because it likely only meant one thing. She lit her horn and her pale blue aura made contact with the book, carefully pulling it from its place and turning it over so the cover was in plain sight.

The painted image of a bat pony greeted her, shadowy and flying through a nighttime forest.

Cadance blinked again, her muzzle getting extra crinkly with thought.

"Luna!" she called, swiveling her ears back to catch the sound behind her.

"Yes? What is it, Cady?" came Luna's response, and the sudden sound of hoofsteps approaching her. How Luna was able to so casually shrug off the silence that could frustrate Cadance after time was mind-boggling.

When Cadance had volunteered to help Luna with some book-sorting, she thought there would be more of a helping of conversation than sorting.

Soon, Luna stood at her side, eyes calm but ever-curious as the young goddess looked at her. "Is there something wrong with this book?"

For a moment, a small frown crossed Luna's muzzle. It was one of her more usual expressions to have such a slight, neutral frown. Most ponies didn't recognize that it was a sign Luna was thinking about something deeply, or that plans were on her mind. As a result, she was unjustly dismissed as sour sometimes — which she wasn't — or aloof... which she certainly could be. This wasn't a problem for Cadance. Even Auntie Celestia made this mistake so very, very often. Cadance knew better than to call Luna detached, though. No detail escaped this mare, even when you thought she wasn't watching things.

That's what made this all the more curious.

"Why's this in the fiction section?" Cadance asked, levitating the book closer to Luna, who simply cast her gaze at it.

"Why shouldn't it be placed so?" Luna asked levelly in reply, eyes now watching Cadance coolly. There was a slight gleam to them, one Cadance could only figure meant that Luna probably already knew the answer.

"Well, uh, don't you see?" Cadance's magic waggled the book back and forth.

"Indeed, that is certainly a book."

Sighing, Cadance tapped the art upon it lightly with a hoof. "Look at the cover, yo."

Luna did, or rather, she already was. "I do suppose that the artist must not have had the best technique for when it came to painting pine needles. Do you see how they are closer to smooth strokes with no fine details? It begs the question of if they got out often, or if they simply were not taught as well as one could hope."

"...There's a bat pony on the cover."

"There most definitely is," Luna said, an impish sparkle in her eyes and a tiny smirk on her muzzle.

"Yes!" Cadance exclaimed, tapping the book again. "There's a bat pony! And it's in the fiction section!"

Luna nodded. "As it should be."

Thrice, Cadance blinked in an expression of proper mild confusion. "Whaddya mean?"

"My dear friend, surely you realize that bat ponies aren't real?"

"Uh..." Cadance swallowed, tucking the book under one of her wings as a forehoof moved to play with her curls. "What?"

"They are not real," Luna repeated with a cheery calm.

"But that can't be true! Bat ponies are totally real, just like you, or me, or bad mane-cuts."

Luna cocked her head to the side, blowing her bangs out of her eyes. When they fell into place, she calmly trained her eyes on Cadance once again. "Do you think them some race of their own? As the unicorns are, or an odd hybrid such as the mules and qilin of the world?"

"Err, yes."

"And I suppose that you think they live off in some dark place, likely underground, as diamond dogs and changelings do?"

"Well... I'm pretty sure that they live in dark forests and stuff too," Cadance mumbled, kicking at the floor with a forehoof. "Or maybe even spooky caves?"

"Ah, I see. When you sleep, do you think that I have my own guard that is beyond your sight and composed of these creatures?"

"Um. Sometimes?" Cadance's ear flicked hesitantly. "Isn't that why I've seen a few around the castle?"

Luna tilted her head so far to the side that her mane rippled and swished more than normal — and as a result, she ended up looking more like an owl than a pony. "But why do you believe such things, dear Cady?"

Was this a rhetorical question? Philosophical? Cadance quickly scrambled through her thoughts in a hurry to find an answer. Instead, she just wondered why it was only Luna who enjoyed challenging the things she believed in, which was the antithesis of how Auntie Celestia had handled the Canterlot side of her adolescence. If she ever met another pony as weird as this, she knew she'd just lose her mind.

"I've seen some bat pony guards around the castle at night... and they look different, their armor is different. Isn't that proof enough? There are countless legends about them—"

Luna arched an eyebrow. "Countless legends also said that I was not real. Before my return 'Nightmare Moon' was 'just an old pony's tale' and 'Luna' even more so — when I was allowed a mention at all. There is much truth to be found in many legends, but there are always some that are pure fancy, as I'm sure you can understand. Bat ponies are one such thing."

"Wait, but how, Luna? How can bat ponies not be real if I've seen them with my own two eyes?"

When Luna beckoned Cadance to sit down on the floor, she did so, surprised at there being no cushions or chairs. Auntie Celestia was not a mare who sat on floors, but Luna was — and she was a mare who was apparently going to try to disprove bat ponies too.

From under Cadance's wing, Luna's magic pried her book, and her own dark forehoof came to rest on the picture. "This is a legend sprung from a few incidents of certain spells gone wrong, and little else."

Cadance's crinkly muzzle returned. "Like when Twilight wrote to be about how she accidentally turned one of her friends into a bat?"

"Exactly!" Luna said with a bright smile. "Though, most spells that resulted in 'bat ponies' are not quite of that caliber. For was Twilight Sparkle's spell not merely a mis-transfer of the bats' natural magic into a pegasus pony? That is not the making of a new species any more than those who were said to be afflicted with were-curses were. No hybrid creatures would come from any union the fair Fluttershy would have had in that state, nor would any pure creatures have resulted — none that were not a pure pony! She was still a pony, my dear Cady, as much as your own transformation cannot change that at your core your species is an altered pegasus. Yet, I suppose I speak poorly — you are more altered than Fluttershy suffering a miscast spell. Legends made the bat ponies you think of appear much less grotesque than they truly were. Most of their supposed habits were either just borrowed from true bats, or from illnesses a pony gets when they attempt truly omnivorous, and even cannibalistic crimes."

Luna may be able to discuss many macabre things with ease, but Cadance shivered at the mention of unnatural meat-eating and cannibalism being thrown about so casually. The library felt just a bit colder as well, but Luna continued without any shift in demeanor.

"Myths about a silly kingdom for what started as little more than transformation and meat-mad ponies were the only explanation simple-minded everyponies from ages past had, and clearly—" Luna rolled her eyes, "—it was far more of a taboo to exist in any solitude, as these bat creatures were said to. A whole race of monsters had great appeal, and the foals who would be raised on such tales as entertainment would then tell it to their own foals as though it were fact. Still, many more habits of your 'bat ponies' are just copied from the tales of vampires."

"Wait!" Cadance all but shrieked. "Vampires are real, aren't they?!"

Luna blinked at the outburst but offered no other physical reaction. Her every gesture flowed with her words. "No, they are not."

"What? B-but? How?" Cadance sputtered.

"Cadance," Luna began, giving the other mare a flat stare, "How much of your concept of 'bat ponies' and 'vampires' comes from more shallow young adult novels that have even less of a proper grasp on the legends than usual? Do you think that I cannot hear you ripping that dreck to bits with your words as you and Shining Armor stroll through these corridors?"

"Uhh... pass?" Cadance squeaked, unable to meet Luna's gaze. To be caught reading literary abominations was one thing, to admit that one had actually partaken in such an act was a sign of cowardice.

Luna crossed her forelegs across her chest and set the bat pony book down in front of her, and as she did so, her mane rippled with a visible increase in attitude. "I suppose you do not realize that 'vampires' are little more than a weak and tasteless corner of folklore built entirely on the danger of encountering a succubus and one of her drones, and the violations and violence they will bring to ponies?"

Cadance's tail swished across the floor in confusion, the unfamiliarity of the word nagging fiercely at her.

"Succubus?" she echoed.

"Yes," Luna said, "a succubus is a changeling queen who, while appearing no different from a regular one, is corrupted. When the queen is corrupted, the hive is as well, for the hivemind drones fall with that who owns them. Your wedding-crasher, Queen Chrysalis was such a being, who fed on the foulness of lust and not the fine taste of love, as the wretched succubi do, for in their wickedness, they conflate the two and will seek to corrupt others into regarding their body as their being and a token that must be exchanged for any acceptance at all. I'm sure if you poked your muzzle into different, less fictitious contents of my libraries, you would learn that before my return, treaties were made with many hives in my absence. I'm afraid that violence toward ponies in the time shortly before and after Discord saw many attacks on ponies and changelings was at a high because of the woe that even a single succubus can bring, and in that time, it was far from a singular blighted creature that was terrorizing the young nation."

Rubbing at her coat awkwardly, Cadance just offered a distracted murmur of 'oh' in reply.

Luna noted this and nudged forward the book with a push from one of her forelegs. "Do you still wish to know about the guards that you see around the castle?"

Cadance nodded.

"Good," Luna said, giving Cadance a small smile, "The guards are the same guards you see in the day, you silly mare! I have none of my own! It is called the Royal Guard, and not Celestia's or Luna's, for all soldiers swear to us both! With my return, there is now a balance once more, and I may even bring via many of the magics I alone have, all fine powers that Tia does not share either. I have nocturnal senses, something nopony and no other Alicorn in the present has. Using my magic, I can offer the hardworking stallions their own sliver of abilities greatly lesser to, but like my own. This changes their appearance due to what even a fraction of my power can do, and the fact that their armor hides their marks is why you would not recognize them."

"Oh," Cadance mumbled, "wow! So, they're just a day shift and a night shift, but the same ponies I've always known?"

"That would be correct. Beyond what your eyes show you, the guards of day and night are truly no more than a shift and spell apart."

"Uh, so what about the armor?"

"Ah!" Luna beamed, another playful smile shooting across her face. "That would be my work. I sponsored many a crafty spellsmith before... well, you can guess. This was back when the art was scorned and not recognized for what it was. Ponies were content to work metal first, and then magic, as the armor for the 'day shift' and most conventional armors have been made. Though spell-smiths are great and influential now, those that worked magic in the metal as it was still shaped to create the most fabulous things were not always respected. Unfortunately, this was partly for how unusual their works were. 'Night shift' armor is old, but in most fantastic shape, and made in the ways of my secrets to have greater magic that a pony would need when working in the dark. Some of the uniforms still in circulation I even made myself, in my amateur days. The spells that protect the identities and colors of our loyal guard-stallions were pioneered by the very mare before you too!"

"That's..." Cadance winced a little, "a far more underwhelming answer than what everypony else thinks about bat ponies, vampires — and, uh, bat pony vampires... but still really cool, yo! There's really... nothing more to bat ponies than a magic filter over pegasus ponies?"

"Indeed, fair Cady! Oh, indeed! At last, you understand so much more!"

Laughing merrily — something she hardly did around anypony — Luna thrust one forehoof forward. She nearly mashed it into Cadance's muzzle. Yelping and shocked from the boop of godly strength, curls flew and Cadance fell backward, her wings springing out in spastic surprise.

The last thing she saw before she fell to the floor completely was Luna triumphantly sticking her tongue out and the sound of ppht.

"...And that, Cady, is why I had this book shelved as fiction!"

Author's Note:

Here's some silly and lighthearted word vomit from an idea that kept bugging me for months.

[Revised and expanded for print on 9/20/2020 and 1/7/2023.]

Comments ( 95 )

Didn’t Fluttershy literally transform into one for an entire episode?

9074516
Looks like someone hasn't read the story.

i came expecting jokes, not deep Cadence/Luna bonding. 100/100.

9074544
You know I write that deep shit. 👉🕶👉

That's pretty fluff, yo!

A good story for sure. Sure there are plot holes like why the 'bat ponies' of the non-guards exist but maybe I didn't read carefully enough.

...but still really cool, yo!"

Wat.

9074570

Wat.

【YO】

I have one question though, yo. Why does Cadance keep saying 'yo' in your stories with her and Luna? Not that I'm complaining.

Is it just something she does that you invented, or is she trying to sound cool in a horrible way?

9074672
It's just something she does when she's speaking very casually with ponies. She doesn't really do it with Celestia, for example, because she sees Luna as more of a peer, in a way, and Celestia as a mentor/family figure. She's a young, modern pony and has the tendency to be very, very informal, and it shows in how she talks. It's the same reason why she'd likely greet a friend with 'hey/hiya' or something more casual, cutesy, and silly than she would one of her subjects.

I think she only did it a couple times, at first, but it started becoming one of her more frequent verbal quirks when I wrote her, while Luna, Celestia, and Sombra all have their own as well.

(I'll actually sometimes say 'yo' like that as well, so I'm guilty as charged.)

tl;dr I guess that's the story? She's just speaking casually and is a silly pony.

9074582
I doubt she'd say yo, yo.

9074570
I don't remember any batponies that weren't guards.

9074743
She does, sometimes.
9074758
Same, actually! So, I'm not sure how the comment fits into things.

Commenting at you live from Bronycon. Faved :)

9074780
Replying at you from not Bronycon, you lucky fuck, enjoy your con and thanks for the fave!

Okay, still a bit weirded out by Cadance saying "Yo" but not bad. Not bad at all.

9074799
Honestly, every time someone draws attention to the mundane 'yo' in Cady's speech pattern, just gonna do this:

【YO】

(and thanks for reading)

I like it! There's some distracting small errors, but it's a charming story. :twilightsmile:

I don't think I've ever heard Cadence say “yo” either, but it's certainly not the most outlandish thing I've ever heard about her. Or any of the other alicorns, for that matter. They seem to attract unusual folk stories for some reason. I guess that's what this story is about in the first place, really.

yo yo yo, ya yo-yo

i don't actually have anything to say, just saw that half the comments were about the 'yo' and couldn't get that out of my head so i put it down and now it's your problem not mine

I only have one thing to say to this story.

【YO】

Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed that bat ponies really don't exist in the series other then as armor (and even then only on Nightmare Night) and one botched spell. I think it's cool that the fandom has grabbed them and ran with them, but they pretty much only exist here.

That picture of Luna is just too adorable.

9074952
Nice to see other people noticed that! Now, don't get me wrong, I love some bat pony stories and ideas, but I'm personally far more interested in canon alternate races beyond the main three, like alicorns and crystal ponies.
9074970
Thanks! You have good taste in cover art. :raritywink:

9075058
There's always crystal ponies~
9075059
Shush, you nonexistent creature.

9075061
But I want bat ponies... :fluttercry:

*sees* 9075066 :pinkiegasp: :yay:

9075092
Hrm. Cynewulf writes great bat ponies, if you haven't checked out her stuff.

PresentPerfect
Author Interviewer

I am reading this right the fuck now

Liked the story, it's well written and the character interactions are interesting.

Still don't like the 'bat ponies don't exist' explanation though.

9075156
If you like it, I write more with these two and their silly shenanigans.

Can't help if it wasn't your cup of tea, though! :twilightsheepish:

9074780
There he goes, the madman!

9075167
TBH you have to be mad to enjoy my stories.

PresentPerfect
Author Interviewer

Sighing, Cadance tapped the art upon it lightly with a hoof. "Look at the cover, yo."

wat

This is kinda my jam tho :B

9075192
Glad to hear that you liked it! :B

Not sure why you pointed out that line of dialogue in particular?

PresentPerfect
Author Interviewer

9075198
I don't get why Cadence was written the way she was. c.c

Also, I'll be honest, this wasn't quite as funny as I was hoping. :B It's just true.

9075222
I... always write her like this? Obviously she's more serious and fleshed out in my longer works, but that's to be expected? Hmm. I guess I don't really know how to explain that, because something's not occurring to me, so truth be told I'm actually kind of confused now.

The story wasn't really meant to be that funny, though. There's no comedy tag, just some lighthearted slice of life princess ponies.

PresentPerfect
Author Interviewer

9075229
I could've sworn I saw a comedy tag. @_@ Maybe it was just the yellow background on the cover art messing with me...

9075235
It might have been. I do admit, the title and cover art might have been something you'd more likely see on a comedy, but they're what I had in mind when writing. Also, you could be thinking of the comedy story 'Celestia Isn't Real' by Cynewulf... it could be viewed as similar?

Anyway, thanks for reading and enjoying my story. :)

It is true that "canon" bat ponies have never (properly) appeared in the show, but purportedly, more than one staff member on the show's crew have claimed that, as they see it, they DO totally exist in the show's world, envisioning them living in a cave network in the mountain that houses Canterlot. I believe even Lauren Faust shared this view. But for reasons never made clear, they haven't done anything to actually establish this in the show, as of yet. I suspect the higher-ups at Hasbro have something to do with it (they usually do on such matters).

In some ways I can live with that, though, because then that leave us, the fans, free to interpret them however we like, whether as existent or no (you're actually not the first I've seen to adopt the idea that they don't, but it still doesn't seem to be a popular idea). :twilightsmile:

Anyway, cute story, yo! :pinkiehappy:

9075244
Thanks for reading! I don't follow most of the staff tweets and lore unless it's something I'm actually going to use in writing, so that 'headcanon' of the staff was also never known to me. And, eyyy, unpopular ideas are my thing! If you happen to like those, then I have seventy seven (as of now) more stories on this account that could interest you.

9075250
True! But it still tells me that there are people working on the show that'd totally make it real if given half the chance, and I figured it was interesting to note nonetheless. :twilightsmile:

9075265
Well, thanks for sharing!

Hold on, if Luna's mojo, makes bat ponies, then why isn't Luna a bat pony?

9075317
Her... 'mojo'? Err, there's nothing about mojo in the story... unless you mean something different?

I'm actually really confused by what you're trying to say, sorry. :twilightblush:

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