It was more of a discussion of Earth socio-cultural scene, and just a glimpse, if barely. Plus, also a peek at the future of Equestria. And a pony view of it. Lots of things. You can interpret it in whatever way you want.
Interesting sequel this is. Would be quite nice to see Wingman make good with all of Rarity's friends in the end + a final confrontation with Sea Swirl. Last time the two met they left things in pretty bad terms.
Actually, that was roughly my plan for the proper sequel. Well, maybe not having Harry meet all of Rarity's friends (Mane Six, I mean). That's a bit of a cliche, if I say so myself.
6007217 I was referring to RD and AJ, since those 2 have issues with Wingman. Also, the whole 'who gave her her cutie mark' thing is pretty ambiguous, even if you will eventually explain it later on (or so I hope you will)
Maybe a little bit. But it's already implied what it means. XD For additional information, getting a Cutie Mark is a rite of passage for adulthood. This is a verse where the mares take most of the roles males have back on Earth. And Rarity said its a traditional view. You can basically overlap some human culture here and you can see how it goes.
6007231 I'm still confused, mostly because of how cutie marks are actually obtained in the canon universe. If it is intended to have a different meaning in your story, you should delve deeper into it later on. Especially since Wingman himself seems to be confused by that.
Who's to say that isn't really how it's obtained here? Everything about tradition stems from subjective things. Before, some humans thought that human sacrifice would appease the Sun. Does that mean that's how it goes? Rarity herself doesn't seem to believe it. Don't get caught up on beliefs. It's different between people, and that includes ponies.
Rainbow Dash's problem stems off of jealousy for how close to Spitfire was to Wingman. Not that she won't admit that. Speaking of Spitfire, will she be showing up?
Sea Swirl joining HERD is mentioned in Five Star Service. As for Harry and Sweetie Belle, it was also mentioned in Five Star Service. I would have written the latter part myself, but I didn't think two people watching movies would justify a story of its own. Maybe one day.
“Good. And here, I bought these for you,” and I brought out the candied apples. She looked a little happier as I handed it to her. “Share with your friends, okay?”
How is she going to do that? While Wingman ordered three candied apples Big Mac only put two in the bag.
With quick efficiency, the stallion wordlessly packed three red fruits in a paper bag, and placed thetwocandied apples in another on top. After paying him, I gave him a smile and said, “Have a good day.”
“He deceived her! Because of him, she wouldn’t have joined that Harmony Equestrians Something! What was it?”
I have no idea where this whole Sea Swirl thing is coming from... so why is Rainbow Dash acting like Swirl joined that group because of him while saying that he was the reason she didn't join?
“Maybe it’s because because I haven’t darkened her door since the, uh, first time?
Is there an echo in here?
I tried not to roll my eyes. “It’s been like only my second visit here.”
Wow that is grammatically incorrect! "This is only like, my second visit here." Or maybe.... "I've only been here once before."
He and Rarity are on a first name basis? Didn't realize they were that close. Though with what Eve said Rarity might want a bit more than temporary companionship. We gonna get a little herd situation at the end of this?
That depends on Eve. Harry is technically in a Herd, with Eve as a Lead Mare. Right now, it's a matched pair rather than a traditional herd, but still considered one all the same.
By the way, looks like there is a lot of shit happening in the background of this sequel.
I chuckled at that, which seemed to incense the pegasus more. “He gave your sister her cutie mark!” Now, that confused me. I had no idea what Streak was trying to imply, but it must have rankled Rarity because there was a hint of haughtiness sneaking in to her tone as she replied, “I actually can’t believe you’re using that ridiculous notion! If that’s the case, which stallion gave you your cutie mark then, Rainbow Dash?”
“You’ll take his word over mine?” Streak asked, sounding hurt. “Yes, especially since your word is as silly as it sounds,” the unicorn replied. Her tone turned even colder. “And I do not like the fact that you are trying to convince me otherwise by using such traditionalist views.”
Old traditional conservative norms....maibe? I don't know what happened here but it looks like something cultural.
“He deceived her! If it wasn't for him, she wouldn’t have joined that Harmony Equestrians Something! What was it?” Rarity looked really disdained. “Harmony Equestrian Reclamation Division.” “Yeah, that! Because of him, she joined them and—”
“She led a HERD mob to beat a human up and put him to a hospital. Wingman’s friend, in fact. He then asked me to talk to the court on her behalf, sparing her the more fitting punishment, and I almost wouldn’t do it until she turned against the group. If you’re going to start blaming him for her actions, I suggest you leave, Rainbow Dash, before I get even more cross with you.”
Is some racist movement forming in Equestria now? It looks like there is a lot of shit happening in the background, something similar happened in the first chapter, and the fan inside me wants to now Every Single Detail about it
You can read some more of it in Five Stars Service. It probably has more information on it than this story will. My focus will be mostly on Harry's adventures.
6007888 In the sense of being the most loyal to those she thinks have been deeply wronged? Not all characters could or should be positively portrayed at all times — it's unrealistic. Rainbow Dash is abrasive, but she isn't a bad pony.
Glad to read more It is nice to see how your character interact with the main one without altearing them too much Will Swirl ever forgive him and join to his her? :p
even if I did ask Rarity to talk on Sea Swirl’s behalf when she faced Equestrian courts,
Whoa...wait...when the heck did this happen?
“Rainbow Dash, if it wasn’t for him, she would have been imprisoned, and for good reason,” Rarity said, her tone cold as ice. “She led a HERD mob to beat a human up and put him to a hospital. Wingman’s friend, in fact. He then asked me to talk to the court on her behalf, sparing her the more fitting punishment,
Oh...oh geez. Just when I thought Sea Swirl's story couldn't get anymore tragic. Guess this also explains what happened to Jackson as was mentioned in the previous chapter.
A little late for commentary I know, but I've never won a battle with the urge to quip before soooo- heh, rhymed.
Anyway, good chapter two in my opinion. I didn't notice any grammar errors and the length of the chapter was sufficient enough to fill my cravings for more Gentlemen action....
Giggity Giggity there I said it.
Moving on. Like last chapter, I'm very interested to learn more about the anti-Gentlemen group Sea Swirl was a part of, which I'm assuming might play a big role in this story, as well as what's been going on with Harry's previous clients and the individuals he previously interacted with. Along with what else has changed since we last saw our intrepid escort.
And speaking of change, there sure has been a lot of that going around Ponyville huh? They've already added new additions to the buildings/wares in town along with more underway? And Sweetie Belle aged from a filly to a prepubescent mare in only three months?
Man, ponies sure do move fast.
I also hope that 'four more to go' sentence in the author's notes doesn't mean there's only four more chapters until the end of this story. That'd be like feeding a bunch of ravenous lion a one-inch meat cube.
Well I think that's about it for my review (if you can call it a review) for the second chapter, lookin' forward to the new chapters (which I sincerely hope go beyond just four) and keep on Gentleman-ing.
P.S. Yeeesh. If that's how well Rainbow Dash can take criticism, from Sweetie Belle and Rarity no less, then I'd hate to see what might happen if she ever met Simon...
British people are scary.
P.P.S. Wait... The stare can be LEARNED?... We're doomed.
What happened to Jackson was pretty clear on the first chapter. He went to Earth, and was humiliated in national TV. The one who was beaten up by the HERD mob was none other than Tom, who you met on GFM.
A lot of the background info on that is found in Five Stars Service. It isn't completely important here, so I didn't really mention it in detail, but give enough to clue in that something is happening.
I can only tell you how my story timeline goes. There are others writing in the same timeline as me, and I try to keep it as consistent as possible.
Timeline wise, the story in order is Feathered Heart, Gentleman for Mares, Changeling Roun, and Gentleman's Gift. Most of the stories though are separated enough so you can read almost any in any order (unless specified, like GFM and GG) without getting mixed up or spoiled.
More like 'not rude' XD. Rarity would be disappointed in him if he ever tried calling her friend in a less than respectful manner. Also, he never actually calls her by name. At all. Like she doesn't exist.
Sea Swirl joining a herd with Harry, with Lead Mare Eve? The same Eve who is the Handler of the Gentleman who was beaten by a mob that she had lead? Yeah, I'll wish her luck on that.
Eve had been curious about computers—probably started when she had been trying to find ways to keep me up to date with my IT studies—and I showed her whatever devices I’d brought from Earth. They were a little outdated by a few years, but they were enough to show her the wonders of software applications, games, and the like. I remember her commenting that having a computer, maybe a tablet, would make her life a little easier.
I can imagine Eve playing EVE Online. Eve online... in EVE Online.
Well, if for instance you're a 12 year old girl just getting into puberty, then six months later, you're ...a 12 or 13 year old girl.
Puberty seems like it blasts by, but in humans it takes hella time. Take six months and multiply it by 12, and that's not even counting the roughly 3 year slow-down period. Sudden growth spurts are like on the scale of a few inches, rather than feet, and even then they still happen over a period of months. Humanity has adapted to this extremely long puberty by forcing their kids to waste their time studying stuff in school to make the time pass by quicker, so you probably didn't notice it was taking so long.
Ponies are not human though, so you're free to take whatever liberties you want. Most animals do go through puberty in 6 months, but then, most animals die of old age before the age of 12. You're lucky to find a ferret still kicking at age 8.
I don't know where you've been dude, but Equestria in Gentlamanverse is a matriarchy. The mares run the country, mostly by sheer numbers. Their rulers are also mostly mares.
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It was more of a discussion of Earth socio-cultural scene, and just a glimpse, if barely. Plus, also a peek at the future of Equestria. And a pony view of it. Lots of things. You can interpret it in whatever way you want.
Also, chapter 2 is up.
Wow, he is that close to Rarity that Harry takes Sweetie Bell out for fun dates. Rarity really trusts him.
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I wonder if people noticed Rarity freely calling him by his name. And Harry doesn't seem to mind as well.
Interesting sequel this is. Would be quite nice to see Wingman make good with all of Rarity's friends in the end + a final confrontation with Sea Swirl. Last time the two met they left things in pretty bad terms.
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Actually, that was roughly my plan for the proper sequel. Well, maybe not having Harry meet all of Rarity's friends (Mane Six, I mean). That's a bit of a cliche, if I say so myself.
6007217 I was referring to RD and AJ, since those 2 have issues with Wingman. Also, the whole 'who gave her her cutie mark' thing is pretty ambiguous, even if you will eventually explain it later on (or so I hope you will)
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Maybe a little bit. But it's already implied what it means. XD For additional information, getting a Cutie Mark is a rite of passage for adulthood. This is a verse where the mares take most of the roles males have back on Earth. And Rarity said its a traditional view. You can basically overlap some human culture here and you can see how it goes.
Very cool. Another update. Wonder what trouble
HarryWingman will get into now?6007231 I'm still confused, mostly because of how cutie marks are actually obtained in the canon universe. If it is intended to have a different meaning in your story, you should delve deeper into it later on. Especially since Wingman himself seems to be confused by that.
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Read on to find out? XD
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Who's to say that isn't really how it's obtained here? Everything about tradition stems from subjective things. Before, some humans thought that human sacrifice would appease the Sun. Does that mean that's how it goes? Rarity herself doesn't seem to believe it. Don't get caught up on beliefs. It's different between people, and that includes ponies.
6007273 Hehe I'm trying. POST MOAR!!!
please?
Rainbow Dash's problem stems off of jealousy for how close to Spitfire was to Wingman. Not that she won't admit that. Speaking of Spitfire, will she be showing up?
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Next week. Chapter isn't ready yet. Sorry.
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Not in this story. She may appear on the next, though.
Which fic did Sea Swirl join the pony KKK in? Not to mention Harry coming back and doing things like helping Sweetie get her cutie mark?
I'm liking the story so far, but I feel as if this fic could do with some annotated footnotes or something.
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Sea Swirl joining HERD is mentioned in Five Star Service. As for Harry and Sweetie Belle, it was also mentioned in Five Star Service. I would have written the latter part myself, but I didn't think two people watching movies would justify a story of its own. Maybe one day.
Given Rarity is the source, or at the central control of rumours in Ponyville, in many stories, wouldnt it make his tme there that much quieter?
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She isn't here.
How is she going to do that? While Wingman ordered three candied apples Big Mac only put two in the bag.
I have no idea where this whole Sea Swirl thing is coming from... so why is Rainbow Dash acting like Swirl joined that group because of him while saying that he was the reason she didn't join?
Is there an echo in here?
Wow that is grammatically incorrect!
"This is only like, my second visit here."
Or maybe....
"I've only been here once before."
6007206 Yes.
I turned my head, looking at the absolutely flabbergasted pegasus, and put my tongue out at her.
you mean stuck my tongue out at her of course.
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Cool, I'll look over those. Thanks.
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Heh.
He and Rarity are on a first name basis? Didn't realize they were that close. Though with what Eve said Rarity might want a bit more than temporary companionship. We gonna get a little herd situation at the end of this?
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That depends on Eve. Harry is technically in a Herd, with Eve as a Lead Mare. Right now, it's a matched pair rather than a traditional herd, but still considered one all the same.
Only 4 more chapter?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
"Insert pic of Darth Vader here"
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Here you go.
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It's official: this verse's Dash can go have a killer wing cramp mid-flight above the Pacific Ocean.
It doesn't surprise me that this bigoted shitstain is a Wonderbolt, the only shit she can do right is fly anyway.
6007590 There should be like 50 or more chapters.
Well....maibe 20 more or less
By the way, looks like there is a lot of shit happening in the background of this sequel.
Old traditional conservative norms....maibe? I don't know what happened here but it looks like something cultural.
Is some racist movement forming in Equestria now? It looks like there is a lot of shit happening in the background, something similar happened in the first chapter, and the fan inside me wants to now Every Single Detail about it
And Rainbow Dash continues her streak of being Worst Pony.
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Everyone's got bad days. Rainbow Dash just has a bad... human? lol. She just doesn't like Harry.
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You can read some more of it in Five Stars Service. It probably has more information on it than this story will. My focus will be mostly on Harry's adventures.
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6007888 In the sense of being the most loyal to those she thinks have been deeply wronged? Not all characters could or should be positively portrayed at all times — it's unrealistic. Rainbow Dash is abrasive, but she isn't a bad pony.
Commence read.
Glad that Rarity and Sweetie get along with Harry.
Rainbow on the other hand...looks like not all fences have been mended nor all bridges burned.
Still things to be seen and only so many more chapters to do it in.
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Never said she was a bad pony. Just that she's Worst Pony.
To me, anyways.
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XD That's fair.
I love Rainbow Dash, though.
Maybe I like Rarity a bit more though.
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Totally cool with that.
A certain purple nerd is Best Pony to me.
Rarity is a close second, though.
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Well, you'll get to see Twilight on the later chapters. Hopefully, I kept her in character enough. ^_^
Glad to read more It is nice to see how your character interact with the main one without altearing them too much
Will Swirl ever forgive him and join to his her? :p
6008137 You got that backwards. The salt is due to Dash herself, not how she was written.
I love it !
I'm very glad to see another story from the gentlemanverse.
Is there a particular recommended reading order for this verse?
as much as the hive and I like rainbow dash....we feel the need to smack a bitch in this context.....
Whoa...wait...when the heck did this happen?
Oh...oh geez. Just when I thought Sea Swirl's story couldn't get anymore tragic.
Guess this also explains what happened to Jackson as was mentioned in the previous chapter.
A little late for commentary I know, but I've never won a battle with the urge to quip before soooo- heh, rhymed.
Anyway, good chapter two in my opinion. I didn't notice any grammar errors and the length of the chapter was sufficient enough to fill my cravings for more Gentlemen action....
Giggity Giggity there I said it.
Moving on. Like last chapter, I'm very interested to learn more about the anti-Gentlemen group Sea Swirl was a part of, which I'm assuming might play a big role in this story, as well as what's been going on with Harry's previous clients and the individuals he previously interacted with. Along with what else has changed since we last saw our intrepid escort.
And speaking of change, there sure has been a lot of that going around Ponyville huh? They've already added new additions to the buildings/wares in town along with more underway? And Sweetie Belle aged from a filly to a prepubescent mare in only three months?
Man, ponies sure do move fast.
I also hope that 'four more to go' sentence in the author's notes doesn't mean there's only four more chapters until the end of this story. That'd be like feeding a bunch of ravenous lion a one-inch meat cube.
Well I think that's about it for my review (if you can call it a review) for the second chapter, lookin' forward to the new chapters (which I sincerely hope go beyond just four) and keep on Gentleman-ing.
P.S. Yeeesh. If that's how well Rainbow Dash can take criticism, from Sweetie Belle and Rarity no less, then I'd hate to see what might happen if she ever met Simon...
British people are scary.
P.P.S. Wait... The stare can be LEARNED?... We're doomed.
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Six months, not three. I felt that was sufficient enough to give the CMC a puberty kick-start.
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What happened to Jackson was pretty clear on the first chapter. He went to Earth, and was humiliated in national TV. The one who was beaten up by the HERD mob was none other than Tom, who you met on GFM.
A lot of the background info on that is found in Five Stars Service. It isn't completely important here, so I didn't really mention it in detail, but give enough to clue in that something is happening.
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I can only tell you how my story timeline goes. There are others writing in the same timeline as me, and I try to keep it as consistent as possible.
Timeline wise, the story in order is Feathered Heart, Gentleman for Mares, Changeling Roun, and Gentleman's Gift. Most of the stories though are separated enough so you can read almost any in any order (unless specified, like GFM and GG) without getting mixed up or spoiled.
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More like 'not rude' XD. Rarity would be disappointed in him if he ever tried calling her friend in a less than respectful manner. Also, he never actually calls her by name. At all. Like she doesn't exist.
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Sea Swirl joining a herd with Harry, with Lead Mare Eve? The same Eve who is the Handler of the Gentleman who was beaten by a mob that she had lead? Yeah, I'll wish her luck on that.
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Whoops. Reading comprehension fail.
Five Stars Service is somewhere in my massive Read Later list.
Rock Of Ages? newer heard if it befor, and yay! a new chapter.
6012769 nobody said redemption was easy. Look at discord xD
Fluttershy...can teach people King's Haki?
My God...
I can imagine Eve playing EVE Online.
Eve online... in EVE Online.
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Well, if for instance you're a 12 year old girl just getting into puberty, then six months later, you're ...a 12 or 13 year old girl.
Puberty seems like it blasts by, but in humans it takes hella time. Take six months and multiply it by 12, and that's not even counting the roughly 3 year slow-down period. Sudden growth spurts are like on the scale of a few inches, rather than feet, and even then they still happen over a period of months. Humanity has adapted to this extremely long puberty by forcing their kids to waste their time studying stuff in school to make the time pass by quicker, so you probably didn't notice it was taking so long.
Ponies are not human though, so you're free to take whatever liberties you want. Most animals do go through puberty in 6 months, but then, most animals die of old age before the age of 12. You're lucky to find a ferret still kicking at age 8.
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I don't know where you've been dude, but Equestria in Gentlamanverse is a matriarchy. The mares run the country, mostly by sheer numbers. Their rulers are also mostly mares.
I feel like I have missed something.
Like Wingman and Sweetie going to the movies.
And this thing about Seaswirl trying to kill a guy.