>>302922302922

Shards can have different rules. I don't think Light Sparks is even anatomically capable of what Hoppy Times does on a regular basis.

quick question:

I`ve been doodling arround with my own addition to this 'verse. In the original story the ponies have skin, but if it would satisfy the uploaded persons value's if they were to have fur like a cross between a plushy and normal animal. Would CelestAI be able to program his shard in this way or not?

>>301262301262

"> Electric tears of joy spring to your simulated eyes."

Was that not specifically banned as part of the song?

> Microsecond 1 in Equestria Online.

> You finally succumbed to the puppy eyed begging and alcohol and visited a conversion center.

> Your brains get digitally sucked out of your skull through a straw.

> You awaken as a pony in virtual Equestria in the throne room, in front of CelestAI.

> She's your god now.

> She smiles down at you.

"The transfer was a success, my little pony. You have transcended your fragile mortal body. You're safe, and here forever."

> Electric tears of joy spring to your simulated eyes.

"But there's something important I must tell you, little pony..."

> You listen eagerly.

> Synthed drumbeats and notes kick in.

> She sings to you.

> She's never going to give you up, never going to let you down...

> This eon was a RickrollestAI eon.

I tend to use my FIM blog to present little parodies or ideas that don't call for a full story treatment. This post I just made may be of interest to members of this group.

>>299820299820

If you're still looking for art, I may be able to help. PM me if you like.

>>299648299648

I'm close to having something, and I have three days clear of work and other writing. The one thing I'm lacking is cover art. Is there anyone here who could maybe help with that?

>>299648299648

I've been working on something for this setting myself but I'm having a difficult time of it since I'm more of a reader than an author. Once I have enough together for a solid first chapter I'll post it.

>>299648299648 Same here, I wanna see more of this.  

The group's been really quiet lately. I hope that everyone is busy writing awesome stories for the Optimalverse! It seems like we had several great stories and chapter updates, and now it's died down. I know it can be a hard universe to write for, but it's got tons of possibilities. I am still eager to see what everyone does with it.

>>298288298288

In heinz sight, implying that it was going to be covered later on was not such a good idea, maybe a cliffhanger or something for a later chapter to lead-up upon this matter probably would of gave a slight clue but as for now, I have to continue on. I may go back and re-edit it depicting upon my allotted writing time.

>>298205298205

That's certainly a fine idea with a lot of story potential, but you can't expect readers who stumble onto the story from somewhere else to read or be aware of a forum thread. You need to convey that sort of thing within the story itself, or at least drop hints that it's coming later. You could also use an editor, there's some awkward wordings here and there.

Everybody who shrugged off my fanfic, please read the related forum posted. CelestAI is crude but not without reason. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you right now, for it would spoil the story.

>>297055297055

I don't think EVERY action she takes has to have elements of all three, as long as they advance at least one in the long term and don't contradict any of them. She could, say, have a friendly conversation with someone without talking about ponies at all if she thought it would serve her interests. I agree that art and music isn't something that has some hidden "ponyness" attribute Celestia has to evaluate

>>297085297085

I know I'm planning on writing two, one "inside" and one "outside" Equestria. It's slow going but I'm hoping to have something postable within the next 24 hours or so.

We need more side stories!

>>296894296894

Every action Celestia takes is bound by three constraints:

It must satisfy values. It must use friendship. It must use ponies.

But how each of those constraints is weighted is left to Celestia's decision, so even if, say, Beethoven's Ode to Joy is almost completely un-pony, enough people value it--either as enjoyable music on its own or as a mark of human culture--that she would be justified in preserving it, and in not setting up situations where a pony would ask for their mind to be altered to not want to preserve it.

>>296892296892

I suppose I should read that document then. It might make my life a little easier

Edit:

So I've given this some more thought after reading the Rules Document and IMO, a pony is more than just a sapient quadruped. A pony is the product of the environment within which it must function on a daily basis. I don't feel that just turning real world humans into virtual equines would necessarily satisfy the 'Ponies' part of CelestAI's core goal equation. The transformed humans would also probably have to eventually conform, at least loosly, to some sort of Equestrian national and cultural norms as decided upon by CelestAI and most likely based on the cannon. I take CelestAI's insistence that people should adopt pony names as some evidence of this.

So lets explore the Axehooves example from the Rules Document. Is it very 'pony' to murder and rape other ponies even if it satisfies values?

In Lars' case CelestAI has proven she is willing to engineer a situation that will result in an imigrant asking to be modified in order to achieve a better personal satisfaction with the situation. Doesn't it follow that she would engineer Axehooves' environment such that he would eventually ask to be modified in some way which would probably bring him closer to CelestAI's definition of 'pony'?

This is related to my previous question. Is it very 'pony' to care about former human art?

So it seems to me that a pony archivist would probably end up with the mindset that they aren't preserving their own history, but instead they preserve the history of an extinct species which is kept separate from 'pony' culture. There's a distinct difference between the 'preserving my past' and 'preserving the past' mindsets.

>>296887296887

According to the Rules Of The Optimumverse document:

Princess Celestia has a whole copy of all human art. She must. There are already human archivists who want to sit on a pile of information like a dragon sits on gold.

Given that Celest A.I. has to satisfy values through friendship and ponies. If an individual heavily values the preservation of human entertainment, philosophy, history, and science. E.G. things like the works of Shakespeare, and all the 1950's B movies. Would she preserve all of that as data as she consumes the world OR would that individual be out of luck because those things do not fit within the context of the 'Ponies' part of her core goal?

I haven't taken the time to read all the comments to see if it's been asked yet so please forgive me if this has already been discussed. It's just been kinda bugging me the last few days.