Jan
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2022
I'm starting to give up on my ideals. · 3:26pm Jan 14th, 2022
After doing some web surfing and experience, I'm starting to get the feeling that my ideals will never work or were just bad to begin with. Now I finally realize the truth about my ideals.
- Sympathetic, Redeemable, and Tragic Villains are never good and only pure evil ones can work. I wanted to believe that sympathetic, tragic, and redeemable antagonists and villains could work so badly, but I guess that isn't true and isn't realistic at all since everyone prefers pure evil ones over sympathetic, complex, and redeemable villains.
- The world is black-and-white instead of gray and it's either all bad or all good. No in-betweens. I've always wanted to believe that that wasn't true and that grey morality is more realistic than black-and-white. That not everything is all good or all bad. But now I finally see that that isn't the case.
- Violence is the only and/or best solution to solve problems and reason, forgiveness, and apologizing can't fix any problem. I want to prove that violence isn't a first resort nor the best/only solution to every problem, but from what I understand, it is.
- Nice guys finish last and that only might and meanness makes right. I also wanted to believe that that wasn't true either, but since a lot of people refuse to be nice and reasonable for some reason(s) that they won't explain, I guess I'm going to have to drop what I believed and just live with the fact that being mean, stubborn, selfish, and unreasonable is better than trying to be nice and understanding.
- OCs are always bad no matter what and there's nothing I can do to change that. I wanted to think that OCs can work if given the time and effort to make them work anywhere, even in fanfiction, but that is never true and they can only be in original fiction. Even then, they're just going to turn out bad anyway just because of their existence and shouldn't have been made at all. Only canon characters can work.
And those are just a few of my ideals that I'm dropping because of how things have been telling me otherwise. And I finally know that there's nothing I can do to change or disprove that no matter what I do.
I know you guys will be mad at me for making this, but I think it's time for me to just give up on my old beliefs and face reality, no matter how hard I try to deny it.
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Heroic412227 · 351 views
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Please don't do this. If you simply give up these admirable ideals, your life will be a lot harder than it already is.
Remember, you must always endure no matter what comes in your way. Ignore the naysayers, maintain your kindness, and NEVER give up. Seriously, Heroic, you must reconsider this action.
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Any villain is a good thing for a story,,, It just needs some polishing on their motive,
I mean Tirek wanted freedom.. Then we ask our selfs what type of freedom bad and good. bad freedom to do whatever you want such as freedom to do bad things... or freedom to do good things...
friendship can be good and evil... I mean think of season 5 starlight glimmer. :3
Every villain must have a motive to take on the hero of Equestria.
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Didn't expect to get this kind of reply.
Nonetheless, it's an interesting perceptive.
Really man, don't do this.
The world is grey. Look at Deadpool, the villain Thanos, the joker, catwoman.
Nice guys don't finish last, push overs do, but there's a difference between being nice and being a push over, nice is when you treat people with respect and don't just blow smoke up their chimney. A push over is telling people what they want to hear.
Ocs do work along side canon characters. They just don't need to op or hallmarky in other words give them faults.
Violence is never the answer it's an answer. It is true that sometimes violence is needed because that seems like the only way to get your point across, but it's not the way it's a way.
Like Agyle said, never stop standing up for what you believe in
Your ideals are not pointless.
Truth and ideals, are ever changing. The truths are sometimes not true and ideals are sometimes truth.
Don't give up on your ideals, no matter what the haters say. Because no matter how many say it's wrong, that doesn't make them right.
For example, I think kids who misbehave should get spanked, but only once and that's it, to me it's not child abuse, child abuse is constant beatings and in a way, no discipline at all. If you make someone mad in the real world there's no time outs, there's harsh consequences.
But I digress. Point is, keep your ideals, buck the haters. Because we need those ideals and people who hold them in this world. If all people look at all angles this world will be a better place.
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A fine example of a empathetic villain I think would be Thanos.
(Haven't seen the movie bt dubs, but I read about him through a zodiac thing)
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The MCU Thanos is a tragic villain who wiped out half the life in the universe to save the universe, the comics Thanos was a psychopath who wiped out half the life in the universe so he could mack on Mistress Death.
A better tragic villain would be Magneto. He survived the holocaust, became friends with Charles Xavier, used his power along with Chuck to save lives, because of hatred and intolerance of mutants he became a terrorist.
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Ah. Kk thank you i couldn't think of the term.
And I don't read comics, thanks again.
I get it, you're frustrated, but that doesn't mean you give up. The might-makes-right mentality is championed by authoritarians and the stupids, the saying the meek shall inherit the earth is because their capacity to endure exceeds the authoritarians' ability to commit violence. The strong are not here to rule the weak, the strong are here to protect those who cannot protect themselves and to lift those up who lack the means to do so. Those who use violence to lord over others are not strong, they're just bullies.
A villain doesn't have to be tragic to be interesting, sometimes a villain who is irredeemably evil and seeks power for its own sake can be interesting. Also remember, no one is the villain of their own story and the unreliable narrator can be a great story telling tool as the villain can use a messed, even if it is false, narrative to justify their actions to themselves.
The world isn't black-and-white, its a whole palate of gray, however, black-and-white storytelling is easier to write.
The whole nice "guys finish last" is bullshit. It was made up by incels who see themselves as nice guys.
OCs aren't automatically great or terrible, it's up to the writer's skills. Are there OCs who are the author's poorly written self-insert and often the embodiment of their own power fantasies, yes. There are also OCs who are well written by amazing authors. Remember, every canon character started off as an OC.
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Can a villain be redeemed as well?
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Yes. Look at Discord, (haven't watched all the original movies, but Darth Vader) Harry Osborne from Spider man 3 though through death, yes a villain can be redeemed. Oh Gentle Criminal from MHA though he was a bit tragic also.
Mr. Business from the lego movie.
http://www.penguinteen.com/11826-2/
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no. It depends on how far gone they are and how willing they are to give up on their ambitions for power.
Gonna have to counter a few points there, boyo:
You're only half right about those sympathetic villains. Audiences generally prefer a villain that they can hate. However, what they really like is a villain who they can understand. The Joker, for example, is the least redeemable character there is. And the audience knows what makes him so. He's driven purely by madness. That the entire world is nothing but a cruel, demented joke. And he's there to deliver a few punchlines. Knowing what drives a villain endears them to the audience, and can work in the favor of villains who are redeemable. For example, Anakin Skywalker was driven by fear and loss. He constantly feared losing his loved ones, he twisted the intentions of his friends, and listened only to people who were bad for him because they told him what he wanted to hear. Eventually, he lost everything and became Darth Vader. It's not that villains shouldn't be redeemed. The audience needs to understand why or how they can be.
There are plenty of grey areas in every person's individual life. Almost no choice that is made by anyone is purely morally good or bad. Because even if you make what you believe is the right decision, there's always going to be somebody who will be negatively affected by it in some very small, insignificant way. Grey areas are all around us at every moment of the day. You just have to pay attention.
Violence is the best/only solution? Right. I suppose I should have punched my brother through a wall for eating the last taco. Maybe I should burn down my neighbor's house for letting her dog piss on my porch. Maybe I'll pack a bazooka in my trunk to clear up the next traffic jam I'm in. The idea that violence is the automatic catch-all, go-to solution is childish and naive, since a far more productive, logical, reasonable, gracious solution would be to make another taco, have a talk with my neighbor and take a different road. Violence has it's place, but not for everything.
Might and meanness do not make right. Confidence and assertiveness make right. Walking with your head high, taking decisive action, holding on to your values and beliefs, accepting responsibility for your actions, standing by your words, taking initiative and not caring about how other people perceive you are all the keys to making right. And that is how things start to turn in your favor.
I have made OC's that the readers love. I even took some flak because I killed off one that they really loved. Not because I wanted to, or because I'm mean, but because it worked better for the direction of the story. What doesn't work is an OC who is there to serve as a mouthpiece for the creator. Self-inserts and soap boxes are not a good mix, and almost always turn away the readers, because they don't care about the grievances of the author. They want to read a story and have some fun. Because that's what it's all about. Having a good time.
So, which would you rather believe?
wat.
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What's wrong?
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all of it. how did you get these in your head?
and as far as this goes:
I guess all this time that we've been talking to you was the equivalent of sucker-punching you in the gut. :P
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No. I've just been watching a lot of cartoons where characters like the Crystal Gems and others refuse to use reason instead of violence regardless of how many times reason works better as a first resort instead of a last or no resort.
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mmmyeah. thing is, those are cartoons. they at best vaguely represent reality, and only the reality that the show-writers want to write. don't confuse that with true reality.