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Story Notes: Salmon Rose · 3:38am Mar 16th, 2019

Story Notes: Salmon Rose

Demanded by Cold in Gardez!*

A huge thanks to SirNotAppearingInThisFic for pre-reading, Out Of Work Derpy for editing the cover art (putting on the cutie mark), and my vet consultant for giving me the lowdown on what happens at this type of conference.


Source (YouTube)

Warning--spoilers below the break; y’all might want to read the story before the blog post. Or else not; I dunno.


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*He did not actually demand this. In fact, he’ll likely be quite surprised by it.


Faithful readers won’t be surprised to know that the 2018 annual ichthyologist conference was held in Rochester, NY. They also invite the herpetologists along, but those weren’t mentioned in the story.


Linda Dugnė, our protagonist, was named after the Lithuanian river goddess . . . however, further research suggests that the author who mentioned her was known for making up facts. I don’t recall noticing that when I first was doing research, but then that was nearly a year ago.

Dr. Cope is based on a real historical figure: Edward Drinker Cope. Sometimes the jokes just write themselves. I have no idea if he actually drank like a fish. Since he was Quaker, I’d assume probably not.


Ant-sized Wikipedia link


Dr. Ghoti is named after a variation of the spelling of fish; the word was likely coined by William Ollier Jr. For those who haven’t seen it before, you pronounce the gh as in enough, the o as in women, and the ti as in nation.

Since then, it’s been used as an example of why English phonetics are dumb; to any of my readers who learned English as a second language--and many of mine who learned it as a first language--more proof that English is dumb.

Dr. Salmon Rose is named after a series of stories I’ve written, collectively called the Sam and Rose stories. For people who were expecting this to be one of them, you can put down your torches and pitchforks--the real deal is coming this weekend.


I got the idea of the punny name quite some time ago, when discussing the series with friends. The ichthyologist pun took a bit longer to come up with, but when I had it, I just had to run with it.


Other little tidbits . . . shark-shaped USB drives are a thing. I’ve got one, which interestingly had nothing to do with anything aquatic. At a tool show I was at, there was a supplier with “Shark” in their name handing them out with the catalog on them. I expect that the idea was that mechanics would want them (I know I did, and the bowl was empty when I came back around a second time), and hopefully they’d at least load the catalog onto their PC before using the shark-drive for personal use.

I didn’t do that second part. Nor can I remember the company name. But by golly, I’ve still got that shark-drive.


Amazon Link!

They also give out lots of imprinted pens, and at least at vet conferences, pens are made to look like syringes. Also notepads, tote bags, and so forth. Again, I haven’t been to a conference of this type, but my vet friend has, and I’ve seen some of the swag she’s brought back from conferences.

(At mechanic tool shows, we get Loctite anti-seize sticks, and long red straws and stickers and other exciting products like that.)


Most of y’all probably have guessed what comes after “One Fish”; if not:


Warning--link is kind of spoopy


Thinking on it, I have been remiss. While I assume that all my readers know what a salmon is, that could be a faulty assumption. So if you don’t--it’s a species of fish.

There are two things I think of when I think of salmon. One of them is a legendary bit of marketing. Salmon flesh basically comes in two colors--pink, and whitish. Back in Ye Olde Times, people were used to canned salmon being pink, and a certain entrepreneur found himself with a large quantity of not-pink salmon. Guessing that people might be alarmed if their canned salmon was a different color than they were used to, he advertised it as “The salmon that doesn’t turn pink in the can.”

The other thing about salmon is that they live mostly in the ocean, but go to their home river to spawn. Since we’ve put up dams and other fish obstacles on rivers where salmon might want to spawn, we have also come up with ways for fish to get by them. Fish ladders are fairly common, but of course as proper ‘Muricans, we had to come up with a more . . . ballistic solution.

I’ll let John Oliver explain it as only he can.

Comments ( 33 )
jz1

So, we're going to just leave out the fact that equestrian fish have a religion?

5028604
Maybe they don’t, either, and her destiny is travelling the multiverse proving that fish don’t have religion.

5028605
It's a dagon confusing mess, is what it is.

What if earth fish religion goes along the lines of keep on swimming
Or survive

Oh no. That cutie mark. :twilightoops:

Given there are about 17,000 species of fish (putting aside the 'there's no such organised group as fish' argument) how does she know that no species of fish have religion? Has she tested every single one?

what is this i don't even

I was going to ask if she had considered bringing Equestrian fish over to proselytise to their Earth cousins...

...until I remembered that we are talking about the concept of fish having religion, and one pony actually turning that into a scientific study.

Then again, they give grants to the weirdest things...

You should have left Linda's gender ambiguous, as a hommage to Salm and Rose.

#poniesdon'twearpants

I can't help but wonder if you put that there just for me to see.

5028604

5028605

5028673

To be fair, some scientists have collected evidence that some animals appear to have what we might call "protoreligion"...

5028609

It's a dagon confusing mess, is what it is.

I know, right? Good thing we’ve got a pony scientist to sort it all out.

5028612

What if earth fish religion goes along the lines of keep on swimming
Or survive

Run or die.”

5029257
I was making a reference to nemo there but not the last bit

5029276
Oh, right, why didn’t I think of that? :rainbowlaugh:

5028660

Oh no. That cutie mark. :twilightoops:

Pfft, what could possibly go wrong?

5028665

Given there are about 17,000 species of fish (putting aside the 'there's no such organised group as fish' argument) how does she know that no species of fish have religion? Has she tested every single one?

Presumably representative groups, enough to know that fish aren’t smart enough to have religion.

5028673

I was going to ask if she had considered bringing Equestrian fish over to proselytise to their Earth cousins...

Can you imagine trying to explain that at customs?
“No, these aren’t illegal fish imports, they’re missionaries.”

...until I remembered that we are talking about the concept of fish having religion, and one pony actually turning that into a scientific study.

It’s a subject which has not been well-studied on Earth thus far.

Then again, they give grants to the weirdest things...

They do, and honestly, it might not be a weird research topic in Equestria.

5028695

You should have left Linda's gender ambiguous, as a homage to Sam and Rose.

I should have. I never thought about that.

5028766

I can't help but wonder if you put that there just for me to see.

I might have.
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5029026

To be fair, some scientists have collected evidence that some animals appear to have what we might call "protoreligion"...

Seems to me that that would be something that’s really hard to separate from superstition or instinct, but I’d be interested in learning more about how they go about and figure that out.

5029360

Wikipedia has an article on it, but it appears the scientists haven't separated it from superstition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_behavior_in_animals

"Fish religion" sounds very familiar somehow but I can't put my finger on it.

I've gotten some funny freebies at job fairs. The mini sewing kit was probably the strangest.

5029374
Really, this statement pretty much sums it up:

Whether animals can have religious faith is dependent on a sufficiently open definition of religion.

Interesting bit about mourning among apes and funeral rites among elephants, though.

5029774

"Fish religion" sounds very familiar somehow but I can't put my finger on it.

Hmm, I dunno.

I've gotten some funny freebies at job fairs. The mini sewing kit was probably the strangest.

A mini sewing kit would actually be pretty useful.

Most of the fun stuff I’ve gotten have been stickers. Lots and lots of stickers.

Dr. Salmon Rose is named after a series of stories I’ve written, collectively called the Sam and Rose stories.

And here I just thought it was a pun on salmon roe...

5030632

And here I just thought it was a pun on salmon roe...

A lot of people thought I should have gone for that, and I’m honestly disappointed in myself that I didn’t think of working that joke in somewhere.

I have to ask: In addition to the other wonderful puns here, is Dr. Rose's cutie mark intentionally not just a fish, but the sort of fish used as a Christian symbol?

5030934
It is indeed a Jesus fish (technically called ichthys). And that was a very intentional choice.

Also... I was just rereading a couple of your old stories; is Dr. Salmon Rose perchance related to Heather Rose?

5032168
She is not. Although I suppose in some ways they are kind of similar. :heart:

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