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♦ Topic: Endbringers Attack Brockton Bay Thread II
In: Boards ► News ► Events ►World
Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Posted On May 16th 2011:
Starting a new thread as the last one hit the post limit in record time, for understandable reasons. Previous thread is here.

On the last thread, I suspended my usual rules regarding going off-topic and speculation without proof. That evening, there were too many outrageous things happening too quickly that needed to be talked about to try and maintain order in the usual fashion. Now that things have calmed down and we’ve had some time to absorb things, I’m reinstating the usual rules. I am also including links below to threads suitable for conversations not bound by these rules.

A recap of events, all times are Eastern Standard:

• At 5:04PM, the PRT issued an alert stating an attack by Leviathan was imminent in the New England Area.
• At 5:11PM, the PRT revised their warning, stating that the most likely target was Brockton Bay and issued an evacuation order for the city and the surrounding area. Capes wishing to aid in the defense of the city were encouraged to proceed to the nearest PRT facility.
• At 5:32PM, Leviathan made Landfall. Images here, here, and here. Video here and here. Please give your respect and thanks to those brave enough to collect footage under circumstances like this. Especially to user twixiepics who was killed in the attack.
• At 5:48PM, Twilight Sparkle made the following announcement, "I don’t know why, but the only thing Leviathan cares about, the only person he has ever cared about is...is Eidolon." The Simurgh appeared and attacked Twilight Sparkle's group in the middle of this announcement. Eidolon left the city shortly thereafter.
• At 5:50PM, the Simurgh began construction of a device over downtown Brockton Bay, using telekinesis to rip up the city for parts.
• At 6:09PM, the Simurgh's construction work was encapsulated by a bubble of "frozen time". This bubble also captured a significant portion of the Simurgh's left side, including her arm, leg, and several wings, separating them from the rest of her body.
• At 6:10PM, the combination of Simurgh tinkertech and time bubble became unstable and exploded with great force and a flash of heat. The downtown area was utterly destroyed while much of the surrounding city was set ablaze.
• At 6:14PM, the Simurgh confronted Twilight Sparkle near the ruins of the Little Harbor Elementary School and the PRT evacuation point established there.
• At 6:16PM, Princess Luna appeared and engaged the Simurgh. At this time, the Earth’s rotation accelerated and night fell across the eastern seaboard despite sunset being scheduled for around 8:00PM that day. The orbital trajectory and distance of the moon were also altered. Numbers, calculations, and wider effects of these phenomena here.
• At 6:26PM, Princess Luna severed the Simurgh's remaining leg and was dubbed "Death Metal Pony" by PRT personnel.
• At 6:45PM, various parahumans and Twilight Sparkle converged on the Lord's Street Market area and joined Princess Luna in fighting the Simurgh.
• At 6:48PM, the Simurgh was struck by an attack launched by Twilight Sparkle and, according to all reports, was reduced to powder after a few seconds of exposure.
• At 6:57PM, the PRT issued a statement that all combat operations had concluded.

A recap of points that have generated the most discussion:

• The Simurgh has been pronounced dead.
• Princess Luna demonstrated an ability to affect the Earth's rotation and the Moon's orbit.
• The attack believed to have killed the Simurgh was generated by Twilight Sparkle, and had additional effects of replacing much of the damaged urban landscape with a park-like environment, as well as healing all injuries of those in the area.
• Princess Luna engaged the Simurgh, unassisted, for about half an hour, displaying a wide range of powers and inflicting significant physical damage to the Endbringer in the process.
• The “time bubble” that injured the Simurgh and then exploded had the colors associated with Twilight Sparkle’s powers, but her involvement has not been confirmed.
• According to Twilight Sparkle, the Endbringers were somehow focused on Eidolon and always have been.
• Eidolon left the scene after the announcement concerning him and is still missing.
• Armsmaster managed to inflict a serious wound in Leviathan's face before being killed by Leviathan.
• Twilight Sparkle demonstrated Trump powers that severely restricted both Leviathan's hydrokinesis and the Simurgh's scream.
• Twilight Sparkle reportedly traveled back in time, twice, during key points of the battle.
• The sensors used to track Leviathan and Behemoth often lose track of them when they descend deep into the ocean or magma. However, the track on Leviathan was lost at the precise moment the Simurgh was finished off.
• Princess Luna has demonstrated that controlled travel between our worlds is possible and has opened official diplomatic relations with various leaders and governments of Earth-Bet.

To try and avoid endless rehashing of the above topics:

• Discussion of Twilight Sparkle's abilities here.
• Discussion of Princess Luna's abilities here.
• Ponies in general have threads and entire subsections for discussion here, political debate here, general activity here, and really wild conjecture here.
• Discussion of Earth-Moon motion and repercussions here.
• Discussion of all things Endbringer here.

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►MissTQ
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@TheTruthGuy
All I’m saying is that it wasn’t ponies all the way. More than 200 human capes showed up for this fight, held the line on Leviathan, and evacuated as many people as they could when Ziz dropped in. Even the villains deserve recognition when they step up like this. And once more, any other day and Armsmaster would be hailed as one of the greatest heroes ever for figuring out an Endbringer early-warning system and cutting up Leviathan’s face.

►TheTruthGuy
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@MissTQ
You have a point and I’m trying not to be “that guy” (despite my handle) but the capes were brave in part because they thought they were stepping up for a hopeless battle. For 20+ years the capes have been stepping up even though a "win" against the Endbringers meant "not loosing as badly". Then showing praiseworthy courage by stepping up again. So props to them, yes, but the ponies step up and they actually win. Of course they’re getting all the glory.

►Xyloloup (Brockton Bay Refugee)
Replied On May 16th 2011:
I've been pestering friends for photos and reports of conditions around town and I hitched a ride across town with a Red Cross convoy today. Now that I've had a chance to look at what's left of Brockton Bay under the light of the sun (no disrespect intended to Princess Luna) it’s easier to see the extent of the damage. I've divided the city into a three-by-three grid to address the various areas in order of increasing damage:

--- The City as a Whole - There isn't anywhere in the official city limits that isn't damaged in some way, and you have to go a ways outside the limits before things look completely normal. Water, power, and other services are out everywhere. The less damaged areas are projected to get electricity back soon. Plumbing is a bit harder to reroute. Fortunate areas are receiving Dragon-made disaster relief kiosks that purify water, recharge batteries, have built in phones, and act as cell towers, which is why I can post this. A certain amount of looting is occurring simply because people are grabbing supplies they need immediately, but more criminal or maliciously-intended activity is still lower than you might expect as Protectorate and PRT members are still patrolling in force with lots of reinforcements from out of town.

--- East (The Bay) - I'm being slightly facetious in covering this due to how the grid I drew on the city map came out, but the bay is fine. All the water is still there and not flooding the city, apparently thanks to Twilight Sparkle. Protectorate HQ is practically untouched, and there are reportedly scattered bits of the Simurgh on the bottom thanks to Death Metal Pony.

--- West (Mostly Residential) - The fighting never reached this area and the hills shielded the area from the full force of the Big Boom. However, there are still a lot of broken windows and scattered light to moderate structural damage.

--- Northwest (Residential and Industrial) – My neighborhood. All things considered, we were lucky. Certainly luckier than the areas I've yet to talk about. Like the West, shielded from the fighting and explosions, but about a third of the houses and half of the businesses were old brick that didn't stand up under the abuse as well as more modern construction. The house at the end of my block collapsed completely.

--- Southeast (Beachfront Properties and Upscale Residential) - This area wasn't shielded from the Big Boom, so it took some heavier damage and much of it was on fire for a while. Before that happened, Leviathan took a side trip into the area, leaving a zig-zag path where he plowed through all the buildings in his way. Said path is also bordered by intermittent collateral damage as capes were shooting at him but he's hard to hit. I'm sad to report that Fleishman's Dinner burned to the ground. Where the hell is everyone going to go for their 3am fix of coffee and cholesterol? Silver lining, the three year development battle over the old Plaza Hotel has been resolved by way of Laser. The Luna V Simurgh fight didn't do much to this area, but there is a parking lot by the shore where Luna touched down for a short breather after ripping the Simurgh's leg off. That area is cordoned off by the PRT because the leg is still there.

--- South (Shopping District) – Blast damage, fire damage, two or three (I'm getting conflicting reports) Leviathan runs, and the fight between the Princess and the Simurgh came through here, leaving a wide trail of buildings that were blasted to bits or ripped up and used as blunt instruments. There are a few areas cordoned off by the PRT. One of them is reportedly a place where a lock of Luna's starfield-hair was found. The others contain some of the Simurg's smaller wings that came off in the fight. Simurgh feathers are turning up all over the place, but I haven't been able to confirm any of the reports of Simurgh teeth.

--- North (Train Yard, Warehouses, Old-Industrial) - Unshielded from the Big Boom, a few run-throughs by Leviathan, lots of old, run-down buildings that didn't hold up well, and that's not counting the sections erased from existence and replaced with light forest. This was the area with the highest percentage of abandoned buildings, so not a big loss.

--- Southwest (Residential and Tech-Industrial) - You know the area of town that city officials always brought up whenever anyone pointed out the city's dying economy? They're going to need new talking points. The hills shielding the West channeled some of the blast and heat into this area. The fires burned longer and hotter here. This is also where Ziz and Death Metal Pony started their throw-down. Lots of buildings torn out of the ground, big holes blasted into the ground, and a scattering of those weird heavy Simurgh feathers.

--- Central (Downtown) - Leviathan and the Simurgh both did a number on this area, but you can't tell. All the earlier damage was erased by the total devastation from the Big Boom. Central Downtown was vaporized and left a smooth crater. The financial district, commercial district, city hall, college, and hospital are rubble. Everything else got beat up and set on fire extra hard. You can, however, make out the path Luna and the Simurgh took on their way to the bay a little later that evening, along with more cordoned-off Simurgh bits. Also, the northern section of where the downtown waterfront used to be, that part that had the nicer restaurants for business lunches without having boardwalk tourist-trap prices, that area is now pristine grassland. All in all no one is going to be bitching about their commute anytime soon.

--- Northeast (Docks) - This area is just gone. Not like downtown is gone, but gone as in there is no visible evidence that there was ever a city or other human settlement there. It's now a big, lush meadow turning into light forest as you go west. If you can make it here I recommend a visit. There's just something about the area, maybe the image of pristine nature in the midst of destruction, that gives you hope despite everything that happened.

►BlackTom
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@TheTruthGuy
It’s not just bravery going for the human capes. Twilight wouldn’t have been able to do most of what she did without humans keeping Leviathan busy and getting her where she needed to be. On top of that, Twilight may have managed being in two places at once a couple of times, but even she can’t be everywhere and do everything. Admittedly, Luna carried the load all by herself for almost a third of the fight, but even she needed Twilight for the final blow and Twilight wouldn’t have been there without her human posse helping her.

►XxVoid_CowboyxX (Brockton Bay Refugee)
Replied On May 16th 2011:
I also don’t want to be “that guy” but Xyloloup is understating the devastation out here. The city is a WRITE-OFF people. The projected body count is five figures but it’s hard to get a count because so many of the bodies in question are downtown under rubble if they weren’t vaporized entirely. And in spite of that, I can’t argue that it isn’t a win. Just saying it’s rough out here and likely to get rougher real soon.

►YouSawNothing (Brockton Bay Refugee)
Replied On May 16th 2011:
A lot of those nicer houses in the southeast are still standing (despite damage) and the people who own(ed) them generally had the money to leave town when the party wound down. If you really need a roof over your head right now. Just saying.

►ClericOfHonor
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@YouSawNothing
With the extra hero capes and PRT in town, you might not want to push that line between “necessary” light looting and being an outright criminal.

►Reave (Verified PRT Agent)
Replied On May 16th 2011:
If you don’t have shelter, emergency shelters have been erected on the outskirts of town. Particularly on the northern edge of the new park.

►I'mGolden
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@XxVoid_CowboyxX
As someone who has had a look at the dome going up around Canberra and the bay that used to be Sydney, I think characterizing Brockton as a “write-off” is an exaggeration. I’m not saying there isn’t a lot of damage and hardship, but for Leviathan and the Simurgh together, you got off miraculously lightly.

►MostlyHarmless (Brockton Bay Refugee)
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@Xyloloup
Reports of “criminal or maliciously-intended activity” being “lower than you might expect” may have been overtaken by events. Even before the god-tier tag-team, Brockton Bay had lots of desperate people and a high crime rate. Now everyone’s desperate and I’m hearing about things way more serious than squatting in someone else’s wrecked house.
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♦ Topic: Topic: The Endbringers, Thread XXXII
In: Boards ► World News ► Main
Lasersmile (Original Poster)
Posted On May 16th 2011:
Starting a new topic because the last one hit post limit.
The Simurgh attacked Canberra, Australia on February 24th, 2011. Thread here.
The Leviathan and Simurgh attacked Brockton Bay, America on May 15th, 2011. Thread here.

Timing of the next attack (or even if there will be one) is unknown due to the unusual events of May 15th.

If things revert to the old schedule, then an attack within a couple of weeks of August 30th is expected. Official speculation based on the old models points to Eastern Europe as the next likely target and Behemoth as the next likely Endbringer.

Again, all projections are highly uncertain as the Brockton Bay attack broke many of the established patterns.

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►legendofinfamy
Replied On May 16th 2011:
I still don’t buy the Simurgh being dead. I want to, sure, but Rule One regarding Ziz is, “She’s messing with us.”

►FreezerChild
Replied On May 16th 2011:
I’m confused regarding the sensors that aren’t reading Leviathan and Behemoth anymore. Do they track those two directly or by the evidence of their movement? If it’s the second, then if they just stopped moving around, that’s not really evidence that they’re gone.

►FlowerShine59
Replied On May 16th 2011:
I agree with Stillsword, LoveSecretMessages, and BerserkerAssasin I’m worried about what comes next. The main pattern of the Endbringers is escalation. Either one of them ramps up its efforts or a new one comes out to play.

►Colonial_Skeleton
Replied On May 16th 2011:
Reporting from London that the party is still going over here. We got started later as most folks were going to bed when things started going all to pot in Brockton Bay, though most of us got woken up with the glad tidings some time before sunup. Then the sun came up three hours early.

When the Simurgh hit London in ‘03, she got driven away before she could do much, but it was only her second outing so nobody knew how much time she actually needed. International panic almost did us in afterwards. So just about everybody has raised at least one pint to royalty that is actually fucking useful. Also, the Scots will not stop crowing about the unicorn being a symbol of their nation.

►ForegroundConversation
Replied On May 16th 2011:
So, what exactly do we call beings that kill Endbringers? I mean, beside “ponies”. Endenders? Beginningbringers?

►ArtOfWar
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@ForegroundConversation
Adorable badasses?

►Leet (Verified Cape) (Twilight Acolyte )
Replied On May 16th 2011:
Pwnies.

►ScottishPaladin
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@Leet
It was funny at first Leet, but at this point you’re beating a dead...
You know.
@Colonial_Skeleton
{accent}Reit ye sassenach skeleton, ye can keep yer overgrown moggies. We hae th' true princess of aw beasts on oor crest.{/accent}

►Ship'sCat
Replied On May 16th 2011:
Weighing in from Queensland. Us banana-benders are coming off a bender and so is the rest of the Land of Oz. After Sydney and Canberra, we celebrate the Fucking Fish and the Harpy getting slapped down. Here’s hoping it holds. Someone around here is cranking out Ziz-piñatas and whacking sticks with ponies painted on them. On the other hand, the whole Canberra-Dome thing is now in question and the issue is already getting uglier than it was before.

►AnacronismHo!
Replied On May 16th 2011:
Here’s hoping political shit-storms over containment zones really are the last Simurgh-screw we have to deal with.
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♦ Topic: Luna’s Lunar Lunacy
In: Boards ► Science ► Power/Feat Analysis
Sir Isaac Einstein (Original Poster) (Mr. Physics)
Posted On May 15th 2011:
Princess Luna moved the moon. She did lots of other crazy stuff for which there are threads here, here, and here, but this one’s for moving the moon. Preferably, we do this with hard numbers, references, and actual physics, to whatever degree they may apply to parahuman actions.

Edit -- The International Astronomical Union has issued a report with the following information:
• Before all the craziness happened on May 15th, the moon was waxing gibbous, 94% illuminated, with the full moon predicted to occur in North America on May 17th. The mean distance to the moon is 385,000 km, measured center of earth to center of moon, but this distance varies somewhat. On May 15th the moon was 362,133 km (225,019 mi) away. (Measured from the center of each body.)
• At 22:16 GMT, both the rotation of the earth and the motion of the moon deviated from their expected behavior. This is generally attributed to the actions of the extraterrestrial known as Princess Luna.
• So far, there are no verified claims of anyone having a telescope or other instrument pointed at the moon when this first occurred. More precisely, the earth-rotation effects began before the lunar orbital effects and any instruments pointed at the moon before this happened were no longer pointed at the moon when it moved.
• However, various parties observing the phenomenon reacted by pointing whatever instruments were available. By the time the fight in Brockton Bay ended, just about everyone with serious astronomy credentials on this half of the planet had something pointed at the moon and was recording data.
• For most of the period from 22:17 to 22:53 GMT, the moon occupied a stable orbit at a distance of approximately 170,200 km. This orbit and distance shifted slightly at a few points in this period of time, with no visible cause for doing so. Again, this is attributed to Princess Luna.
• At 22:19 GMT, a beam of white light appeared to be projected from the entire illuminated lunar surface, directed at Brocton Bay on the U.S. East Coast.
• At 22:53 GMT, the moon was at a distance of 170,068,364 m. (Really accurate measurements of distance are possible by bouncing laser range finders off retro-reflectors left on the moon by various missions.) It then accelerated away from the earth at a constant rate of 896 m/s^2. After a period of 7 minutes and 13 seconds, it began decelerating (relative to the earth) at 896 m/s^2. At 23:09 GMT, the moon resumed standard orbital motion at its previous distance of 362,133 km, but shifted in attitude so that it was full instead of the previous waxing gibbous.

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►InsaneDolphin
Replied On May 15th 2011:
@PhantomLurker
@Contractor_Tesla
You’re both wrong. Gravitational attraction scales with the inverse square but tidal forces are based on the differential of that gravity field, which scales with the inverse cube. Therefore, when the moon moved to about 47% of its previous distance, the tidal forces should have increased by a factor of 1/(0.47)^3 = 9.7.

►GotItTogether
Replied On May 15th 2011:
When Luna put the moon back in position, it reached a top speed of 0.14% of lightspeed.

►WarningSign
Replied On May 15th 2011:
Anything going a tenth of a percent of lightspeed is really moving. 7.3 x 10^19 metric tons moving at that speed is a terrifying prospect.

►MadamExclamation
Replied On May 15th 2011:
I’m not clear on whether there is a linear relation between the tidal forces and the height of the tides. Someone with a better grasp of fluid dynamics needs to weigh in here. I do know that the magnitude of tides depends heavily on the geometry of the coastline and sea bed. However, record high tides and scattered incidents of coastal flooding are confirmed throughout the North American east coast, the South American west coast, and in Southeast Asia. Link

►Bill21 (Mr. Physics)
Replied On May 15th 2011:
From the original Sir Isaac, force equals mass times acceleration. 7.34 x 10^22 kg x 896 m/s^2 = 6.58 x 10^25 Newtons applied to the moon.

Energy equals force times distance. 6.58 x 10^25 Newtons x 192064500 m = 1.26 x 10^34 Joules expended while putting the moon back in its regular orbit.

That’s roughly the energy the sun puts out over the course of an entire year.

►ThoseEars
Replied On May 15th 2011:
Isn’t messing about with energy measured in units of solar output the definition of a Type II civilization on the Kardashev scale?

►FailedTurringTest
Replied On May 15th 2011:
Doesn’t Luna have a sister who reportedly controls their sun directly?

►PermanentlyKnurd
Replied On May 15th 2011:
We have hard data on when the Moon moved away from the Earth and back to its usual orbit. We don’t have that data on when it was brought in close, but anecdotal testimony says it occurred over a period of 30 to 40 seconds. Assuming a travel time of 40 seconds and the same sort of steady acceleration in that period, I come up with an acceleration of 480 km per second squared, a top speed of 3.2% of lightspeed, and the energy from the calculation demonstrated by Bill21 comes to about 565 years of solar output. That’s the total energy output of the sun from about the time the Gutenburg printing press was getting going to the present day.

I’m an atheist, and I’m considering building a shrine to the Death Metal Moon Goddess that I may thank her properly for her blessings and avert her wrath.

►HereThereEverywhere
Replied On May 15th 2011:
There were also some ships left high and dry with record low tides in Europe, Africa, and the Bering Strait.
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♦ Topic: Pony Wars
In: Boards ► Vs. Debates ►General
TurtleKing (Original Poster)
Posted On Apr 12th 2011:
At long last, one of the oldest debates in geekdom has become an issue of actual importance. The aliens have arrived. Can we take them?

Please note, I’m not looking for discussion of whether conflict is likely. Just, if the theoretical interplanetary war generations of Sci Fi fanatics have been contemplating since H.G. Wells were to break out, how would we do? Humanity Fuck Yeah or Hail the Pony Overlords?

Edit: Uber, Leet, and acolytes in general, we get it. You welcome our Pony Overlords and Twilight Sparkle brings a message of universal friendship. Now drop it and let us fantasize. More generally, this is not a morality or philosophy discussion about who deserves to win.

Edit: In the interest of having an actual debate, we ask that all posts here include some form of argument, reasoning, observation, or at least a reference to arguments in a previous post you found convincing. Just saying X will beat Y is not an argument in and of itself.

Edit: Nor is the phrase, “Humanity, fuck yeah!”

Edit: Nor is referring to the aliens as “Pwnies”.

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►TroopNightly
Replied On May 16th 2011:
I think the ponies are being over-hyped here, much like any other new parahuman with a noteworthy power. I think most capes with a PRT rating above 6 have been the subject of a "they could destroy the world" debate at some point. Let's keep in mind that we still live in a world of nearly 7 billion humans, more than ten thousand parahumans, and that number includes some really heavy hitters of our own.

►AngelicFork
Replied On May 16th 2011:
I was over in the Science section where there is a thread on Princess Luna’s stunt with the moon and I was struck by a comment about ponies being an advanced civilization on a completely different level than humanity, based just on the power and energy they command. It hit me that advancement of civilization isn’t something that should be measured in terms of making gizmos, but in the ability to deal with problems.

Ever since the ponies got here, they’ve been dealing with the problems we couldn’t fix. Jack Slash, Brockton Bay’s economy, Endbringers, etc. Even though they reportedly haven’t gotten past the steam-engine stage of technology, their ability to just get stuff done may be so far beyond ours that we are the primitives in this meeting of civilizations. Even when the more advanced culture isn’t there for conquest, that sort of thing usually doesn’t work out well for the primitives.

►FabuloullyEvil
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@TerriblySarcastic
Thing is, all those stories where humans beat the aliens because humans are clever, or creative, or adaptive, or can make friends and allies, or we never give up? Twilight Sparkle has all that, in spades, plus more powers than the average Protectorate team, plus the Endbringer-killing-didn’t-there-used-to-be-a-city-here rainbow beam.

For the stories where we’re just incredibly badass, watch the footage from the feast again. Luna’s incredibly badass with a heaping helping of phenomenal, cosmic, extinction event power and warrior-princess charisma. Unless ponies have some ridiculously convenient weakness we don’t know about yet, it looks like none of the equalizers you see in Hollywood movies actually apply to reality.

►OnTheBeachSomewhere
Replied On May 16th 2011:
User received an infraction for this post and comment was deleted. You are free to defend the ponies, but threatening other posters is not the way to go about it.

►TimeTravelingMolusk
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@Nearby-Q
So all girls twelve and under should be suspected of being fifth columnists?

►IceMark
Replied On May 16th 2011:
User received an infraction and temp ban for this post and comment was deleted. Debating tactics for a theoretical conflict is fine. Calling for the actual assassination of individuals who don’t have kill orders in effect is not.

►Faithitude
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@TroopNightly
You're not wrong about the hype that often happens, but there is way more evidence supporting the assertions this time around. Among other things, we've had those numbers and heavy hitters for a while and we never managed to kill an Endbringer.

My list of ways Luna could wipe out humanity if she wanted too now includes:
• Smashing the moon into the earth at a significant fraction of light speed (check out that science thread mentioned earlier.
• Stopping the earth’s rotation at letting us all bake or freeze, depending on the hemisphere.
• Speeding up the earth’s rotation so the earth comes apart and everything flies into space.
• Parking the moon in a low orbit an letting the high tides wash human civilization away.
• Putting the energy levels mentioned in that science thread into just about any effect.

@IceMark went too far but a surprise alpha strike might be humanity’s only route to possible victory in this theoretical fight. Even that’s risky as we don’t know what else, and now that more are showing up who else, they might have waiting in the wings.

►StarfighterAnalyst
Replied On May 16th 2011:
As heretical as it may be...

If humanity loses to the Friendbringers, what, exactly, is the downside?

►MindTheGap
Replied On May 16th 2011:
@TroopNightly
Also, let's take a look at some of those heavy hitters. We've never seen Scion, let alone anyone else, do anything on the scale of Princess Luna's cosmic juggling routine. The Siberian, the absolute gold standard for "unstoppable", apparently saw what happened when Twilight Sparkle started cutting loose and said, "Nope, I'm out." As @Faithitude pointed out, we've been trying to swarm the Endbringers with numbers and haven't gotten very far, so I don't see how swarming the things that kill Endbringers is going to work any better..

►SaneObserverZero
Replied On May 16th 2011:
It is amazing how the connotations of the phrase, “Rainbows and Unicorns,” have changed so dramatically, so quickly.
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I can't wait for this story to continue.

A new one! :pinkiegasp:
Was just planing on re-reading your older posts and found this! You just made my night! :yay:

When Luna put the moon back in position, it reached a top speed of 0.14% of lightspeed.
►WarningSign
Replied On May 15th 2011:
Anything going a tenth of a percent of lightspeed is really moving. 7.3 x 10^19 metric tons moving at that speed is a terrifying prospect.

This reminds me of the story: "Why No One Messes With Luna", a comedy adventure in which Luna uses the Moon as a battering ram against the Reapers from ME.
:trollestia:

It is amazing how the connotations of the phrase, “Rainbows and Unicorns,” have changed so dramatically, so quickly.

:eeyup:

Awesome work. :twilightsmile:

I just got back to reading these omakes and hope to more of this.

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