Why is everyone so mean to Spike? · 9:12pm Apr 29th, 2015
Because the writers are awful people. Faust made Spike's first scene one where he's hit with a door, and Twilight cares nothing for his survival. McCarthy made him turn into a dog. Larson made him stay behind because they were already struggling with handling six characters and numerous new and background ones. All of them are nothing but a bunch of boy-haters that express their frustration by strangling, beating, and kicking Spike.
And it's terrible how he still hasn't hooked up with Rarity. That lady has been leading him on for five seasons; it's time she made it official. It would be celebrated, like when Woody Allen married Soon-Yi Previn. And let's not forget that Spike's age and maturity are malleable by greed, just like how Billy Batson can turn from a ten-year-old boy into a twenty-something-year-old Captain Marvel. And in both cases, any relationship they have is perfectly acceptable because they're doing so while physically grown up, even if their minds haven't grown at the same time.
And let's not forget those brave fans that talk to the staff on Twitter, accusing them of misandry and hating Spike because he was not included in an episode he didn't fit in, or was treated like comic relief, or has any flaws whatsoever. Spike is a perfect little dragon, and giving him problems like depression, greed, and jealousy only show the hatred everybody working on this franchise has for the little guy. They think he's so dumb that he super-evolved sea monkeys into a higher form of life than even ponies. They think he's so worthless that he has to play the role of the dopey sidekick while saving his friends. Every one of them is a monster, and Spike deserves to be treated like royalty.
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You are an international treasure
You know, if Spike actually had a friggin' bone thrown to him that wasn't snatched away almost immediately after, Spike fans might not be so pissed off at his overall treatment. At least me, that's ALL I ask for him. A fucking bone thrown his way.
Well it's a good thing writers of fanfiction, like myself, treat him with respect
People who harass the writers on twitter DESERVE to have their opinions be mocked. Who has all that time and energy to devote to shooting angry messages at the staff of a show they are supposedly a fan of?
If they don't like the way the official content has treated their favorite character, why don't they just act like Celestia fans and just enjoy the fanfics that do treat them right? It cannot be that fucking hard to find a good Spike fic.
Hue hue hue
I think Spike suffers from a bad case of Thewritershavenoideawhattodowiththischaracteritus.
I wish he got a bone thrown to him every now and again.
3029377 Well now I'm at least 8 layers worth of confused.
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IMO, Spike is a dark horse... he has so much potential for character build and can actually bring about very good moral lessons in episodes... yet the writers are barred from writing that because the episodes need to be dumb down enough for little girls to enjoy... (with occasional 'adult' jokes/references)
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Hue! Huehuehue!!!
This sarcasm was so sweet, it gave me diabetes.
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It is with painful irony that one of the only writers that can write Spike well, Larson, absolutely hates writing for him.
And whether that's because the imposed Status Quo is that he must be written like an idiot or because he just doesn't like him as a character, is unknown.
#GiveSpikeAChance
3029392 Throw the DOG a bone.
>giving him problems like depression
the fuck? when did this happen?....
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That pun was terrible and you should be ashaaaaaaaamed.
All joking aside though the poor usage of Spike is a pretty old problem in the writing, and should really be addressed, however plenty of people have, as always, have been blowing it far FAR out proportion. Yes the writing team seems to have periodically screwed the pooch when it comes to their usage/development of Spike, with some notable exceptions though, but it is no where near the level of baby eating evil that the more reactionary members of the MLP fandom are making out to be, then again it's not like this fandom, and others, doesn't have a history of blowing thing far out of perportion, but I digress.
Aside from all this though the problem with Spike's handling seems to be part of a larger more systemic issue with the shows writing. Specifically that for the most part character development seems to either spin it's wheels, even well beyond the point where it could be considered understandable given just how deep seeded a issue is with a character, or they are on a seesaw going back and forth between have achieved some degree of development and then ending up being yanked back to a point farther back then they were at the start of the show, for example when during Hurricane Fluttershy RD is seen a being more understanding of Fluttershy's problems and trying to build her up with little regard for her who goals in the matter, and then in 2 seasons latter in Trade Ya! she sells Fluttershy into indentured servitude almost on impulse, sure she almost immediately realizes how horrible and messed up that was but that SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE! So I think that the poor handling of Spikes character isn't so much a independent issue, but symptom of a deeper more systemic problem with the writing of the show.
Spike is a sad sack, and I really love that about him. :V
I dislike their writing of Spike because most of the time it's plain shitty. Polsky and Merriweather absolutely butchered him in Spike at Your Service, a feat made worse by the fact that Merriweather had depicted him as hyper-competent in Dragon Quest when it came to performing menial labour. Spike being the Butt Monkey is fine, having him be inconsistent to the point of bi-polar disorder to make a (often unfunny) joke is not.
And yet they seem to ignore the fact that he saved the Crystal Empire and the crystal ponies hero-worship him. Or the fact that he and Twilight regularly show sibling affection towards each other.
Twitter at it Again?
Or tumblr?
3029377 Aww~ you didn't mention Rainbow Dash not counting Spike as being any form of a dragon in the Chrysalis book if your facetious rant. I am disappoint!
Also, way to spoil it with a J/K at the end! No hand/hoof holding allowed.
I liked him better in the first two seasons.
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Saving the crystal empire (for which he received a giant crystalline statue - the "biggest" reward out of any main character so far excepting Twilight's apotheosis, and that took 3 seasons for her), saving the gang from Mane-iac, and saving the Equestria Games from a falling ice cloud spring immediately to mind as bones thrown.
You have to understand that this isn't a show about throwing folks bones. This is a show about character X having or getting some kind of emotional or friendship problem for an episode and then learning something by the end of it. I don't know why people focus on Spike so much in that regard; all of the Mane-6 have had it just as hard, they're just main characters so we see them more often, which means we see them overcome their flaw more often.
If anything Spike is shown as being by and large the most emotionally well-adjusted and stable character on the show, when you consider Fluttershy's introversion, Rainbow Dash's abrasiveness, Applejack's subbornness, Rarity's lack of tact, Pinkie Pie's hyperactiveness and mood swings, and Twilight's obsessive-compulsive disorder. Spike is just a kid, and as well-adjusted as we'd expect a kid to be.
3030282 Okay. That makes more sense.
i could care less. Spike was a boring character anyway.
Risky move using sarcasm on the internet. No matter how obvious you make it, someone is always going to take you totally seriously.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/263436/1/twilight-makes-amends/spike-takes-revenge
There's so much here I agree with. Beautiful!
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Thank you for linking this! Back with the story, I mean. It's a truly enjoyable summation of many issues I tend to have with Hero!Spike stories.
3042443 i see , glad to help....
3030282 THANK YOU
I'm just gonna put this as bluntly as I can; as long as the writers think putting Spike through slapstick is funny, his status as the series' Butt Monkey is never gonna go away.
Still, I don't think Spike's abuse is anywhere near as bad as Meg Griffin's from Family Guy or to some extent Squidward Tentacles' from SpongeBob SquarePants. Unlike Meg, the abuse towards Spike is never intentional and at least the other characters like him. I'd say be grateful Twilight hasn't gone "Shut up, Spike" or pressed her butt into his face and farted into it.
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