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Jan
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2013

On the Subject of Alicorn Twilight · 10:16pm Jan 18th, 2013

Well...the premise of the final episode of Season 3 has been announced...and it's a Princess Coronation. We all know what the first thing the fandom thought of was:

Alicorn Twilight.

We really don't know anything beyond the premise and "Twilight's destiny," but it's entirely within the realm of possibility that our little Unicorn is going sprout wings and ascend to what fans believe to be godhood. And this has scared a lot of Bronies, especially the ones already distressed over a short season. And as I've said before, I'm not really a fan of the idea itself. But let's play devil's advocate and see what we can come up with.

REASONS AGAINST IT

It's to sell toys!

Yes, because God forbid Hasbro actually make money so that it can keep paying DHX for more episodes.

But seriously, this ties into the ever-consuming fear that Hasbro's marketing department is what's really running the show, strangling those poor artists and forcing them to cram in toy plugs that nobody wants. Except, as I've said before, that's the whole point of the show. And in any case, the writers have done a phenomenal job making things work in the past. They gave two entirely new characters a full wedding and it turned out fine. They simultaneously made princesses badasses and gave them actual work, something Disney never had the balls to do. Heck, the general line has been that the show helps dictate the toys and not the other way around. And if Hasbro did order them to do this, that doesn't mean they're going to phone it in. The difference between FiM and previous generations is that it takes the toy mandate and fleshes it out until it's formed into a solid concept.

In short, I worry about too much meddling at times, but that's not an automatic sign of failure.

It cheapens Alicorns!

Um...why? No, really, how does this cheapen Alicorns in any way? If anything, it might finally give us a solid foundation for just what kind of ponies they are. Did Celestia and Luna start out as regular ponies as well? Are all Alicorns destined to live as long as them? What are the exact range of their responsibilities? If anything, this might actually answer some more questions and build up two characters who desperately need some attention. Especially Celestia; she hasn't even gotten an episode yet this whole show!

It wasn't what Faust wanted!

I would argue that we don't know what Faust intended, but given the way she reacted to Cadance, it's unlikely she would have approved. The problem with this argument stretches back to the show's very founding. What Lauren had intended to do was already chucked into the bin before the first episode went into production. She wanted a mix of adventure and slice-of-life; instead, she was told to focus on the latter at the expense of the former. Many of her episode ideas were ditched, and in all honesty, most of them didn't sound all that good. (The pony who thinks he's a deer was hilarious, though, and needs to be done.) Faust's involvement was setting up the show's basic setting and characters, nothing more. And to put it bluntly, she's not on the show anymore. It might be interesting to see what she would have done, but her word should not dictate what the current runners do.

It makes Twilight too powerful!

Of all the criticism I've seen, this is the one I agree with the most. Twilight already straddles the line between good character and Mary Sue quite often, with her episodes either centering on how powerful her magic is or just showing her go insane and get away with it. And now she's going to become even more powerful than ever. If they don't handle this well, it could very well push the character down the wrong path. But that being said, I will concede that it can be executed well, and no matter what, I'd love to see if or how they pull this off.

...If it comes up, in any case. We don't even know anything else about the episode, and already people are ready to chuck their computer monitors out their windows and panic through the streets. But I guess what I'm saying is that we really shouldn't jump to conclusions. Heck, I was worried about that Discord episode tomorrow, but the preview clips have restored some measure of faith in the idea. And if Alicorn Twilight does come to pass? We'll just cross that bridge when we get to it. In the meantime, let's all try to relax as best we can and see how things develop.

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1. Don't care
2. Don't care
3. It never happened
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or just showing her go insane and get away with it.

She locked herself and her friends into an eternal oath. I think that's punishment enough.

I'll worry about a cannonized Twilicorn AFTER I finish worrying about Discord

My jimmies are ready.
That is all. :raritywink:

I think it is just a rumor

Just to throw this out there, nowhere does the episode's title say that Twilight is the one who will receive a princess coronation. It's still possible (though, admittedly, doubtful) that we are simply jumping to the wrong conclusions.

I think you also missed the reason that some people don't like that it goes against the friendship and equality message the show has by elevating one of the ponies above the others. In all though, I'm gonna wait it out to see what happens in the episode. not enough information yet.

Personally, I like to think that she's going to be offered the chance to ascend into an Alicorn and become a Princess, but ultimately turns it down so that she can spend more of her natural life with her friends. That would be in keeping with the theme, and should satisfy everyone; the toymakers get their Alicorn Twilight, the fans get to keep their unicorn Twilight, and Twilight herself gets a character arc without having to give up on her dreams.
Or it turns out that the wings are just symbolic and have nothing to do with a pony's power level.
Either way, it's worth noting that even the older generations of MLP have managed to handle princess-based plots with a degree of grace and self-awareness, so I find it hard to believe that FiM will be the one to go completely off the deep end.

Personally, I think Hasbro/DHX is teasing the lot of us. (And I don't JUST mean the bronies. Just mostly the bronies.) There will be Twilicorn in the ep, but it will not be permanent. Just enough To Sell Toys, but not enough to change the status quo. (Which is god.)

You forgot perhaps the biggest ones: It could throw off the dynamic between her and the rest of the characters, and, assuming she does ascend to alicornhood and the throne, there's no way that episodes could ever logically follow the patterns they have been following.

Frankly, I'm not sure what to think myself. It looks to me like if she does become an alicorn, it'll only be temporary. If she was going to become an alicorn, there would probably have been a Princess Twilight toy by this point. After all, the Royal Wedding and Crystal Empire episodes had toys released about them LONG before they aired. Not only that, but then there's the comic, which only just started and is supposedly trying to follow the canon as closely as possible. And It'd be really weird to have Twilight show up as a unicorn right now, only to have her show up as an Alicorn in a couple more issues. If they were going to make her an alicorn, it'd have made more sense to wait until she already was one to start the comic.

That said, there's been those promotional things and stickers with Alicorn Twilight on them. That's the same sort of place we first saw Cadance and Shining Armor (whose wedding episode I would argue was not that well done, actually, but to each his own).

Honestly, though, I'm most worried about what this'll do to the fandom rather than the show. You thought Derpy was a shitstorm? This could practically start a civil war in the fandom.

On the off chance she does, I think there's a rather large one you've missed. Well, missed for those that read fanfiction.

It puts a limit on what people can write.
Instead of being able to write Twilight as a unicorn, or alicorn, she can only be an alicorn and what other limits that are going to get placed. It's why I'm a bit worried about the upcoming Discord episode. There are so many stories with so many interesting back stories for him...

He was one of the creators of the world. He was Celestia/Luna's father. A crazy pony in a magical accident. A being from another dimension. A being from the area between universes. Once an alicorn that was corrupted. Celestia's old lover. Celestia/Luna's childhood friend. The last of the race of draconequus, as Celestia/Luna the last of the race of alicorns. And more.

Heck, I'm writing a story where Discord is a member of a pantheon of Spirits that created the world, and the mortal races therein, along with Celestia, Luna, Cadence, Chrysalis, and over a dozen more.
Him suddenly getting a backstory would suck hard for fanfiction.

The same goes for Celestia/Luna's backstory. There's so much potential for imagination, that "Suddenly Backstory!" would stifle a lot of creativity.

Maybe she'll give it up and stay with her friends?

It might be an interesting idea to see.

What I hope happens? Princess Celestia gives her the offer to become immortal and take her place once she gets old enough. Twilight Sparkle has to decide whether she wants to follow in her mentor's hoofsteps or stay with her friends. At the end, she decides that she doesn't want to be immortal. She turns down Celestia's offer and decides to stay with her friends.

This probably won't happen, but whatever. :twilightsmile:

It might not even mean alicorn Twilight, if these tweets from McCarthy, Thiessen and Larson mean anything.

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Why is it that becoming a princess makes everyone assume she's going to be an Alicorn? Couldn't she just become a princess and stay a normal pony? I mean we have Prince Blueblood (I don't know if that works as a valid argument) and he doesn't have wings. Shining Armor is a prince too but did he grow wings? No. He remained a perfectly normal unicorn stallion. So yes Twilight could become a princess. It does not mean that she will become an Alicorn.

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Blueblood is related to them (somehow) and shining married into the title. So unless they find out twilight is related to the princess by some distant ancestor or she marries blueblood (or maybe even celestia/luna) then the only way we can think of her being a princess by default is alicornhood.

I dislike the idea of alicorn twilight and even go so far as skip fics that have her in them. The idea of harmony is that they are all equal and balanced, with none of them able to work on their own. With twilight being an alicorn it takes away that balance. Plus, why would we want to hear about days in the life of a princess when ponyville is obviously more exciting.

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True. I just don't think becoming an Alicorn is necessary for her to become a princess. It might be entirely necessary but that's my personal opinion. Even then I trust DHX with the show. They'd never go down a root that would harm the show.

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I agree with this guy. Tomorrow has me quite nervous... :unsuresweetie:

IMHO, it's too quick to be Twilight's coronation. I would expect there to be a lot of episodes, maybe a whole season, building towards it. Early signs are Twilight having power surges, weird prophetic dreams and, one morning, jumping up on a low-flying cloud to remonstrate with a slacking-off Rainbow Dash... before realising that she hasn't cast a cloud-walker spell today.

One way around this is for the writers to invoke some 'threshold' plot device. Examples of this:

1) Threshold Power Level - If a Unicorn goes over a certain arbitrary limit, they 'evolve' into an Alicorn (cue innumerable PKMN evolution sequence rip-offs on YouTUBE);

2) Maturity Threshold - Several fans have speculated that the Mane Six are late adolescents (maybe around college age). Maybe when Twilight reaches some point where biologically she's a full adult, she sprouts wings.

This could lead to a nice episode with Twilight having a panic attack over this completely unexpected development and confronting the advantages and disadvantages of alicornhood. However, I would prefer it if it the one being crowned were a new character. Before the ceremony, Celestia explains that Twilight is on the same path. It just happens to certain ponies (not just unicorns - Celestia was born a Pegasus); there are signs in their youth although these are not always certain. However, when somepony has been touched by extreme magic the way Twilight has for so long,,,? Well, then it becomes inevitable. That links into Season 4 where Twilight has to go on a quest of sorts, not necessarily a literal journey, but certainly a personal spiritual journey to come to full terms with her powers and potential. Maybe Twilight will need to achieve a feat in each of the six Elements to prove her worth (thus being directly involved in the CMCs getting their cutie marks and so on). When achieves these goals, then she crosses a different kind of threshold, a spiritual one; with her enlightenment comes her ascension.

This possibility also lets you look into how the other characters respond. Do they know what Twilight is doing or are they trying to figure out why she's got all... well, Princess-y all of a sudden? Maybe Trixie will come back for one final confrontation (of sorts). Twilight has already proven her power and cunning; can she prove her compassion too? You could also have a Cadence cameo, explaining how it was she became an alicorn (Twilight recalling that she was a unicorn in her first memories).

I suppose that my fear is that effectively turning Twilight into a one-pony deus ex machina would kill the character and, possibly, represent an arbitrary automatic point to end the series after the mystical 65th episode.

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well what im worried about is them mangling a character in order to make it work. They did that with spike last episode and with fluttershy coming up (who has always had a problem of learning the same lesson over and over) we dont know if it was just that episode or a trend. the main reason it bothers me though is that Twilight is my, and probably a mojority of the fandoms', favorite and the one I least want to be mangled.

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Exactly!

Seriously, dudes, one jimmystorm at a time, please.

An additional point - According to Wikipedia, the episode is written by M A Larson, whose credits include The Return of Harmony, Cutie Mark Chronicles, Sonic Rainboom, Swarm of the Century and Luna Eclipsed. These are all amongst my favourite episodes and, with Ms Faust having moved onto other things, Larson is, IMHO at least, the "go to" writer when you want character continuity and/or development (He is also a CMC fan, methinks).

So, whatever the story turns out to be, I'm sure it will be of a good quality. Even if we don't agree with what happens, it will be of good quality.

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odd thing is didnt they spend the Magic Duel episode showing that Twilight isnt all powerful?

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Personally, I don't think Blueblood is a blood relation to the celestial sisters. I suspect he's a descendent of Princess Platinum and, if the alicorns were to vanish, the heir to the throne of the Unicorn kingdom. I don't think he's ever called Celestia 'auntie' in an episode, has he?

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I think that Magic Duel was meant to show that Twilight's view of magical power was a bit too brute-force. She had to learn the subtleties of magic and, most importantly, how to defeat a powerful foe whilst using almost no power at all. Using a foe's own flaws to destroy them with very little effort is a stereotypical Light Mage trick.

There is a part of me (the chessmaster!Celestia believer) that wonders if Celestia ensured that the Alicorn Amulet find its way to Trixie and then be conveniently 'absent' just to ensure that Twilight learns that very lesson. It would fit in with the same Celestia who calmly sent an only semi-prepared Twilight to face the greatest Dark Mage of the last millennium.

724940 I'm just going to echo this comment so everybody can calm their over-strained hearts.

perhaps they are merely setting the stage for the inclusion of more powerful antagonists? maybe bringing back some of those characters from previous generations...? (red centaur dude?)

Guys! Guys....

Pinkie Pie has already been a princess in the past.



















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This would be the G3 "Disney Princess Ponies" toy line, with Pinkie Pie as Cinderella. :pinkiecrazy:

Possibility: Shining Armor and Cadance have an alicorn baby, ergo, new princess.

If Twilight is going to become a princess, it could mark the end of the current saga and mark the beginning of a new one (possibly with Twilight playing the role of Celestia as mentor). This would be both good and bad:
New characters with new plotlines and personalities (~yay).
New characters could suck or be one-dimenstional (let us hope Merriweather doesn't get her grubby mitts on personality development).
Chance to explore more of Equestria.

I, for one, would welcome a new set of faces. Much of the main cast's characters have been explored by now. At best, one more season with them before the well starts to properly run dry. Personally, I'd like it to be a series chronicling the main six going their separate ways, still friends, but now with a greater calling. Twilight becomes engrossed in her work as a princess while Spike heads out to become a full-fledged dragon. Rainbow Dash joins the Wonderbolts. Rarity goes to the big city to become a celebrity fashion designer. CMC gets their cutiemarks, stuff like that. Closure, eh?

If it happens, then I don't think it will last. Much like how most cartoons rarely have such a drastic thing stick for the rest of the series. One showing of it, but I don't see it happening.

Ah. Good point. The Baby Princess Skyla toys....

Well, I can see this being purchased in the near future for myself...
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Seriously though, I think they are going to destroy twilight's character. I am feeling that Friendship is magic is slowly becoming somthing like this.....

Here, here. It's far too soon to panic. At least about alicorn Twilight; I still have major reservation about the upcoming Discord episode, but we'll find out soon enough just how bad or not it is.

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Maybe, then again since she is already the most powerful character, making her more so doesn't really change the dynamics, either way she's the most powerful. Beyond that I've been thinking lately, Maybe twilight won't get any more powerful at all. Celestia already said she's never met such a gifted unicorn, so maybe the trick of it is that the reason Twilight is so powerful in the first place is because she already is an nascent alicorn, and just hasn't sprouted her wings yet.

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Being a princess with actual royal duties could change the dynamics of the show, but change in and of itself is not a bad thing. If handled well, such change could open up new and exciting possibilities for future episodes.

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That's always the danger of writing fanfiction, and the creators of the show have no responsibility to leave open all these various fanon interpretation. Nor do these alternatives have to disappear; there is an AU tag after all.

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It's worth noting that proactive continuity and story arcs have never a strong suit of this show. It would have been nice to get some build up to the royal wedding as well, but that didn't happen.

The only story arc we've ever really had was the Gala, and that happened mostly be accident. From what I understand Ticket Master was originally written as a standalone episode and we were never going to see the gala. Then when they were told to write a fashion show episode the production crew decided to tie it back to that episode by having the dresses be made to wear to the gala. Then with that they figured they might as well wrap up the payoff and do an episode about the gala.

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This too. I'd enjoy giving Twilight a niece.

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Don't get me wrong, I can see the idea of having an Alicorn Twilight with actual royal duties making a decent show, to be honest. No, change in and of itself is not a bad thing. However, it feels like, if this is what they do, then they're pulling it too early. There's still plenty of things they could do in Ponyville, for example, and it honestly would rather screw with the dynamic between characters. It just feels more appropriate for a sequel or spinoff show than anything else.

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I don't see how it would irrevocably screw up the character dynamics. Twilight has always been the team leader, so as she ascends to alicorn princesshood her friends all get promoted to positions of honor guard. Heck, the setting might not even need to move from Ponyville and perhaps Princess Twilight would reside in a magically restored Everfree Palace.

It's also worth noting that at 65 episodes, we might be looking at the finale for Friendship is Magic. As such, any potential "4th season" might just be a repackaged spin-off series by brand licensing necessity. 3 years is about as good as any children's media gets without being revamped .

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It's also worth noting that at 65 episodes, we might be looking at the finale for Friendship is Magic.

That's what I fear, too. After all, once they reach that magic syndication number, there's no longer any real need to keep pumping out the same series, especially when the actual show is produced at a considerable loss. That being said, there's plenty of indications that the show will keep running, which leaves us with these possibilities:

1) Twilight doesn't become an Alicorn, or decides against staying one if it'll mean losing her friends. The show would then continue into the fourth season as usual, with the characters still bouncing around and learning lessons. While this would obviously not disrupt the status quo too much, there's also the problem that it might make Twilight meaningless since her story arc is, for the most part, over.

2) Twilight becomes an Alicorn and the series continues. As Dusty said, this could knock the character dynamics around, but as long as they play it carefully it won't be a problem. And as others have pointed out, it opens up a whole lot of new potential stories for Twilight, from learning how to fly to struggling with her newfound position and responsibilities. We can still learn about friendship, but it'll just be on a different level.

3) Twilight becomes an Alicorn and the series ends. Obviously, Hasbro is not going to leave MLP lying around for long, so they'll either launch a new generation and companion show, or simply continue G4 into a new series. (Much like they did with "My Little Pony Tales." Yes, that was G1. There was never a G2 cartoon. Stop saying there was.) This will obviously be a very hard sell to a lot of established fans, but if they can get the right people to work out the details, it could potentially become a worthy successor to FiM. They could even keep the same setting, just move up the time scale or change the focus to a different town, with Twilight taking the position as mentor to another group of ponies on their adventures.

4) Twilight doesn't become an Alicorn and the series ends. Same as above, but with a different lesson at the end.

Of course, this is just us kicking at nothing. For all we know, we're just freaking out over nothing. Still, it's interesting to think of the possibilities we can go from here, regardless of the outcome. And besides, we have a month to kill before the finale...

I just realized the season's almost over.

I am sad now. :fluttercry:

Well, my own take on the whole thing os that Princess Cadance gets crowned the Princess of the Crystal Empire. Given the general direction (or at least the vibe) of the show is going, it felt to me unlikely that Twilight is becoming an alicorn [any time soon].

The only problem I have now, after reading all these comments that is, is that everyone seems to think that the show will end soon, specifically after season 4. I don't understand this, while I'm not an amazing financial adviser or anything, this show has got to be making Hasbro a f:flutterrage:ton of money. Seriously, what reasons do they have to piss off it's main fan base and lose a large chunk of their viewers. This show is great and has a MASSIVE and AMAZING fandom, and that fandom is literally growing by the minute. Why would they cancel such a huge money magnet? I know that I for sure am not going to stop purchasing pony merch, even if the show is cancelled.

Bronies aren't going anywhere, we are here to stay, and Hasbro must realize this. The show seems to be in full swing not it's decline. A new comic book series? New, better quality, merch? A super huge and growing fandom? That doesn't sound like a show that is on it's downhill. That sounds like something that has AT LEAST several more years of steam in it.

Yea it started as a kids show. No doubts there. But how long did it take for a fan base of ADULT men and women to form? A year? Probably less. and that hasn't stopped growing since. The only reasons to worry that I see, are the POSSIBILITIES, not facts, but the possibility of a couple of dud episodes with negative development. No solid reasons to worry.

Am I rambling? Oh well, it was worth it.

One elephant in the room I haven't seen anyone bring up, here or elsewhere, is that it's been stated that Celestia and Luna are over one thousand years old. I'm certain that even kids are able to piece together that alicorns watch their friends grow old and die. It would be too stupid to watch the Mane 6 keep going on without ever once acknowledging this.

I'm...too busy worrying about Discord to worry about alicorn Twilight right now.

That is all.

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Wow... a calm and rational reaction.

How unusual!

Two things. First Alicorn Twilight might have actually been the one other alicorn Faust was planning on, and the importance of that incredibly high, which is why she was confused by Cadence. There have been hints how special Twi is since the start.

As to power level, I think your argument is backwards. Honestly with the exception of moving the sun and the moon, since it's really hard to guess how hard that actually is, Twilight seems more capable than the alicorns. Also it's implied Cadence is weaker than her aunts so clearly not alicorns are created equal. So in the end it might be a case of yes she has wings now, but nothing else changed.

726157>>725979: According to Tvtropes, there is both an upcoming DVD exclusive movie that has been listed somewhere, and season 4 was mentioned in financial documents.

Granted, it's not proof, and I'm somewhat skeptical myself -- esp. if Twilight does ascend to alicorn-ness, since I think that would probably end the show (Twilight has learned all she needs about friendship, she becomes the princess of... I dunno, stars or something, and that's that) -- but it's food for thought.

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There will of course be more MLP to come, Hasbro certainly has no reason to abandon one of its mainstay product lines. There may well even be more adventures in store for the specific characters we've grown familiar with, but we might still be in for some major changes that alter key aspects of the setting as it has been thus far.

Consider another popular Hasbro franchise, Transformers. After a 3 year (52 episode) run Beast Wars gave way to Beast Machines; same characters, but a new adventure in a different setting, with different stakes, and different thematic styles. Even the original Transformers run changed gears radically between its 2nd and 3rd seasons, where despite having no change in title the cast was almost completely overhauled and the setting largely shifted from earth-centric to more planet hopping outer-space action.

Now seems a time time rife to expect change. Whether that change will be for the better or worse though is something impossible to judge at this exact moment.

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Me too, me too... :unsuresweetie:

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And to continue with the Transformers analogy, the next (and last) season of Prime is set to be more or less a total retool compared to the previous two. FiM could be going through a similar process in order to keep things from getting stale. But again, we won't know until the episode airs/gets leaked.

(Although why you would be foolish enough to bring up G1 Transformers is beyond me. Remember how they got that new cast to begin with?)

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We have just over seven hours to go until doomsday. I'm ready and rearing to see where this madness shall lead, but for the time being, let's all get some rest so we can be elated or disappointed together, shall we? :twilightblush:

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(Although why you would be foolish enough to bring up G1 Transformers is beyond me. Remember how they got that new cast to begin with?)

Yes, yes I do... and it was one of the most exciting and epic animated features of its day! :raritystarry:

I've heard complaints that the death of Optimus Prime traumatized a generation of kids or something like that, but I never really understood why. I was a kid at the time, smack dab in the target age range and I didn't flinch one bit. Sure it was sad to see him go, but it was hardly surprising, what with all the toy commercials at the time hyping up the new characters, notably that the Autobots would be getting a new leader, so something had to be done with the old one. Besides, the final show down between Optimus and Megatron was a glorious thing.

Also, while there's no doubt that Optimus was the greater and more iconic leader (a living legend), I always found Rodimus to be the more compelling and relatable character. For all his heroics Optimus tended to be a one dimensional paper cutout, but Rodimus had depth and complexity by virtue of being thrust into a position he wasn't wholly ready for and always pressured to live up to the greatness that preceded him.

I'll admit the writing in the third season was a bit more haphazard, but G1 was never a literary masterpiece, and while there was a lot of junk, I still hold that the best episodes of the final season were some of the most thought provoking and insightful of the entire series.

My totally subjective, completely arbitrary reason for not wanting Alicorn Twilight:

In general, I dislike it when a low-caste character, who has the same problem-solving abilities as high-caste characters in a setting where caste and problem-solving abilities are normally directly correlated, ascends to high caste as part of their character arc.

We live in a society where a great many people are born into conditions that make it hard for them to properly utilize their potential, and where those who were more fortunate often claim that those less fortunate are in some way inherently inferior. My inner punk is greatly pleased by stories and characters that upturn social orders, and I feel a little betrayed when they're not upturned after all.

Granted, any message more counterculture than "darkness isn't necessarily evil" is a bit much to expect from a show like FiM . . .

Good reasons, all of them, to keep calm and derp on.

Still, my problem with potential "alicorn Twilight" is that it fundamentally alters her character dynamics. Suddenly she's no longer "Twilight Sparkle, student and librarian who also happens to do stuff for the princess," no, she'll be a princess herself and have all sorts of princess-y stuff to do. As much as they tend to be trite and poorly written for the most part, a few decent "Twilight alicornification" stories on here quite plainly lay out the issue of her newfound status taking her away from her friends... which kinda defeats the point of the show.

However, like you said, we should give the show-runners a chance to show they can do it... provided it even IS Twilight who gets all princess-y. Maybe it's dealing with some other pony, or maybe coronation doesn't mean automatically that the character being crowned needs to be an alicorn; there's Blueblood, after all, and unless he was hiding his wings (oh dear God, please don't let anyone make a fic where he's really an alicorn) then there's the possibility of non-alicorn royalty to consider.

So yeah... We'll see. Even if it is what many fear it to be, I'll wait and pass judgement when it comes to pass. Just like I'll give the Discord episode today a fair chance. The guys and gals on the show have done some excellent stuff so far, and it's only fair to wait and see before we flip the eff out.

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In general, I dislike it when a low-caste character, who has the same problem-solving abilities as high-caste characters in a setting where caste and problem-solving abilities are normally directly correlated, ascends to high caste as part of their character arc.

What makes you so sure that she's low cast? Her brother was both captain of the royal guard and apparently high enough in the social strata to marry a princess. Twilight herself was baby-sat by the same princess. And that neat house we see her in, in the first episode, she apparently always lived in.

I'm pretty sure Twilight is a standing member of the nobility, or at least from a quite wealthy family.

SPOILERS

The final episode summary is out, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with coronations or princesses.

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Which just make me think of something bad is going to happen...might be too dark for the show but perrfect for a fic.

Ok, so what if, when Twily changes the destinies and she gets god power, she has to rewrite magic itself. The problem then becomes that she has to stay there, forever and season 4 is about the mane 5 having to go and get her back home from the purgatory that she is in

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