ATTENTION: Read this before opening the story!
Warning contains violence, but nothing on the level of cupcakes or any gore fics. Definitely not going that far, I'm just letting you know in case you aren't fond of violence.
The reason Celestia hates humans, it's a question I have mulled over for a while.
Usually in HIE stories Celestia harbors a strong hatred for humans. Usually a reason is not given, if it is given, it is obscure usually along the lines of ‘I know humans are evil,’
I now come forth with a reason, it is one word; invasion. This is a crossover between MLP and Warhammer 400000. Someone had mentioned in a HIE story that maybe the second a universe is thought up, it exists in a parallel universe. So I now present to you, The Battle for Equestria.
The rating may change if necessary.
If you read this, I would love a comment and a thumb. Did you like it? Did you hate it? Tell me why, I would be much obliged.
alright dude. its a pretty good story. Filled with information but not enough on character. I suggest you rewrite it with more emotions added. However I prefered to see one where a commander comes and teaches the ponies how to defend against tyrranids or sumthing rather than this un even battle
865513 Everything will come together as this progresses. It won't be completely one-sided, if you know much about the Death Korps of Krieg you may already have a few guesses as to why.Only one God is going to be able to help their children survive this conflict, you can take your guesses as to who's.
On a side note I didn't want to start them off on too much at once. Things would seem rushed if in a single day they were completely prepared for the coming storm.
Hunter C. Creed
I much admit I like it. It's a nice break from the usual stories I read.
but as NLRsoldier 123 says more focus on charecters. Though it might be hard if you focus on the death korps.
Also I have not read up on Krieg so much, but is strapping ponies with explosive and throwing them into enemy ranks out of charecter. I mean is't their doctrine terror.
865613 The doctrine for the Death Korps of Krieg is siege warfare. Devastating an area with artillery for weeks, months sometimes even years of constant barrages before sending in wave after wave of men until the objective is taken. If you read some of the Imperial Armor (my information comes from the books V, VI and VII) to take a single trench line during the siege of Vraks they constantly barraged it with artillery for months. They took a two day break whereupon they assaulted the position. Over half a million guardsmen died in 48 hours. (on a side note the assault was a failure) For the planet of Krieg men are worth less than the lasgun in their hands and the air filters in their gas masks. Of course you'll hear more on that later.
Hunter C. Creed
What about the starship that got them here, is it still in orbit and can it give fire support?
865732 Everything will come into play in the massive amount of fighting to come. Don't think I could forget a several kilometer long starship.
Hunter C. Creed
Interesting... kind of. I don't know entirely if I like where this story is going but I'll be keeping track of it...
Just a quick note: the Krieg certainly strike me as the kind of army to use a 1918-style of phased advance and entrenchment. First a meticuliously planned infantry/armor assault backed by copious amounts of artillery seize a piece of ground (usually a few kilometers deep), then they fortify the secured territory, reinforce, resupply, and do it all over again. Rinse and repeat until the enemy breaks. Its slow, grinding, and exactly the kind of warfare that fits the Krieg. The best counter to such tactics is a mobile defense with a thin screen of troops on the front to serve as a trip-wire force and aggressive, immediate counterattacks by reserves to drive the enemy back before they can entrench themselves.
I think it would be interesting to see a Pony interrogation of a captured Krieg trooper*. They'll be downright horrified at the amount of irrational hate 40K humanity have towards non-human races. There might be attempts to change the troopers mind, to show him kindness and generosity... but the Krieg are the fanatics of fanatics and they will only see such attitudes as weakness and decadence, things to be used against their enemy. Mmmm, the delicious, delicious culture clash...
*It can happen. It happened alot during the Pacific War: an otherwise die-before-surrender enemy gets knocked out in the heat of battle by an explosion or disabled by a non-lethal wound and is captured as a result.
870266 I advise you read the Imperial armor (books five, six and seven) the siege of Vraks. What happened was they landed. Set up thousands of siege guns. All at once across a massive line spanning kilometers, they all opened fire. They fired continuously for months. The plan was to cease fire for two days and send forth over a half million men. They would storm the position and hold it for a couple of days to open a gap in the line, then their masses of armor would pour through said gap. (Although that first assault was completely ineffective and close to every soldier from that half million was killed)
In other words, they dig in and fight for months even years if they need to. But when it comes time they are ready to push through a gap and consolidate quickly. After years (I don't have my copy on me but it was several before they broke through the first line) they did open up a gap in the line and poured through with armor and quickly moved to encircle enemies further down the line. They do like to move slow and steady, but they need to be able to move like lightning to avoid letting hundreds of thousands of enemies slip away and reinforce their allies further back.
I had three different regiments on the starship for a couple reasons. A. its always a possibility for starships to be lost to the warp. They wouldn't take the possibility that only infantry or armor or artillery would make it to a war zone. That and its no secret that regiments will get combined to increase their effectiveness, IE infantry works best when fighting with tanks and supported by artillery. B. by the end of this the casualties are going to be catastrophic, they wouldn't be able to do enough damage as quickly without artillery and armor.
Man do you have mind powers? Just sit back and let me write lol. I've already started on the third chapter. Already at the 3k mark, I'm planning on reaching a larger number than that.
Hunter C. Creed
872044 I'm aware of the Imperial Armour books and I am also aware that they are somewhat controversial amongst the 40K community, who sometimes tend to regard them as "too much World War 2 in the 41st millenium!" I'm just throwing out the most probable style of contemporary tactics the Krieg would be used too based (almost) solely on their description in the 5th Edition Imperial Guard Codex. "Seige warfare" is a very broad category, after all...
And that I envision the Krieg relying mostly on phased advance and entrenchment doesn't mean I envision that they rely on it to the exclusion of all else. After all, the point of such a tactic is to grind the enemy down to the breaking point, slowly pushing back and seizing his defenses, until you are in a position too smash through them with a massive armoured blow.
Also: while Imperial regiments are largely homogenous in their composition, they are usually not entirely so. An infantry regiment may have some artillery and tanks while an armor regiment may also include some infantry (usually mounted in Chimerae troop transports), its just they don't have enough to conduct a proper combined-arms campaign. The "seige regiments", like the one you described as coming along, are usually a mix of infantry and heavy/super-heavy calibre artillery since they are built, tautologically, for seige warfare.
In any case, I await your next chapter with interest.
873415 I'm just saying that there has always been a lot of WWI and WWII in 40k (at least within the Imperium) IE the Land Raider and Leman Russ Chassis are basically exact replicas of the tanks used in WWI (maybe with more lasers and effective weapons) Commissars resemble well, Commissars from France and Russia. Then you have Tallarn that resemble the British Desert Rats. The Vostroyan First Born strongly resemble Russia styled uniforms. The Death Korps of Krieg resemble WWI Germany. The Valhallan resemble the Russians during WWII. The Steel Legion of Armageddon resemble the Fallscrimjager deployed by Germany during WWII.
Everything causes controversy in the 40k universe. Whether it be whether the Emperor and the Machine God are one person or not. Then in Titanicus it was revealed they discovered the answer for that, (I think it was kinda sorta implied they were two different entities) Commissars are all supposed to be steel willed individuals ready to die for their Emperor, then you have Ciaphas Cain
Forgeworld works pretty close with Games-Workshop. If anything I would trust their massive supplements rather than something in the Black Library.
It's also impossible to say anything about the Imperium, they have nothing that is always universal. It varies from planet to planet and regiment to regiment. They don't have universal terms for officers, weapons or vehicles. Nor do they have universal rules on how regiments are put together. It varies depending on what can requisitioned and whoever is in charge of the operation.
None of that really matters though. Always glad to hear I have someone waiting for my work
Hunter C. Creed
now THIS is a realistic wahammer crossover
mercy? deplomacy? the imperium knows no such thing
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im relatively new to warhammer but ive always loved the death korps of krieg
and its nice to finally see a crossover where there is apsolutely NO CHANCE of the bad guys turning good
because when it comes to zeleots the death korps are always in a class of their own
874073 Always nice to see another follower of the one true God Emperor of mankind. I would say that the Death Korps of Krieg are my favorite. If it wasn't so bucking expensive I would love to get an army. But when its like fifty - sixty bucks for a squad of ten
That and I love to play my guard in hoards 
I guess that is a dream that won't be coming true 
Either way, glad to see you're enjoying it. Chapter 3 should be up within a day or two.
Hunter C. Creed
As long as I can drag my lifeless body out of bed on time tomorrow, plans are to have chapter 3 posted at 12PM sharp.
i love this story
its nice to see a good warhammer crossover that shows humans as this: 4khbz7a.devhub.com/img/upload/poster2.jpg
instead of this: fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/034/0/1/krieger_pony_by_tristikov-d38r39e.png
889736 Glad to see you're enjoying it
I wasn't sure if you guys would like the newest chapter. Always glad to see good feedback. Definitely get what you're saying about the crossovers. But I do have to admit I like that picture. Not entirely sure how an earth pony uses a lasgun though
if it was attached to his flank it wouldn't really need a sling. Now I'm getting off track.
Thanks for the comment, have a great day.
Hunter C. Creed
a scouting party of four platoons?!
DAAM! thats a huge army!
890335 I'm assuming that you are serious.
A platoon consists of:
Platoon HQ: 5 men
The Lieutenant would probably have a power weapon of some sort and either a las or bolt pistol. One guardsman would have a vox caster and lasgun. Another guardsman would have a special weapon (grenade launcher, melta gun, plasma gun, flamer or grenade launcher) The last two would operate a heavy weapon (probably a heavy bolter, heavy stubber. Possibly a lascannon or mortar. But that depends on the platoons role overall) they would also have a lasgun or laspistol each.
Squad 1
Squad 2
Squad 3
Squad 4
Squad 5
Squad 6
Each ten men respectively.
1 Sargent with a chainsword and laspistol + grenades
8 guardsmen with a lasgun and grenade.
1 guardsman with a special weapon (again, grenade launcher, melta gun, plasma gun, flamer or grenade launcher)
Then the platoon would probably have a single heavy weapons squad.
Heavy weapons squad: 6 men
Each would have a laspistol or lasgun. Two men to a heavy weapon, again the weapon would vary depending on the platoons role.
Grand total of 260 guardsmen.
That isn't very many. Okay on the table top that is a buck load, but when you look at what's canon...
Remember that they have around a half million guardsmen in the 501st.
Men are just numbers on a data slate to the Death Korps of Krieg.
Hope you're enjoying it so far. Have a good day.
Hunter C. Creed
i bet if princess celestia talked with one of the humans
and said they have declared war with the ponies
the human would just say
"this is not war, this is pest control!"
and that is why i like this story
the humans are role playing as daleks
The ponys will lose in the end right, it would just be silly otherwise
894746 There might be a special reason I mentioned Stalliongrad my little pony. There have been many that have underestimated their foe and ended up paying for it in full.
895701
So the ponys are gonana win. Are you fucking kidding me.
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I'm just saying, I'm not here to please everyone. I'm here because I had an idea for a story and felt like you guys would enjoy it. If my plans bother you that much I could write an alternate ending.
Try to be civil, no more using the fuck word, that kinda fucking language pisses me the fuck off.
Hunter C. Creed
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I see what you did there. And yes please write 2 endings.
The xenos scum shall be purged!
Interested to see how well these auto-guns will do against men of the Imperium!
909607 im betting that the ponies fair as well as any of the emperors enemies (in other words THEIR ALL GONNA DIEEEE
)
910559
Real talk!
Update?
933407 Sorry bout that, combine both a busy weekend and how how hot its been lately
My computer has been overheating like crazy 
You would think spending 4500$ would mean something. I can't even count on both hands the amount of times my graphics card has overheated the past three days 
I need to get more fans in my computer and a better cooling system for my graphics card, wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't so strapped for dosh 
And the Steam summer sale isn't helping anything, I can almost hear my Jack Skellington wallet screaming as it tries to keep onto the money inside.
I should have the next chapter up within the hour. Just putting the finishing touches on it, then I'll double check for spelling and grammar errors.
Hunter C. Creed
So awesome!
934430 agreed
Good job.
im beginning to worry more about the artillery and firepower being lost during these battles than the lives :/
You have done well in the Emperor's sight brother. I can't wait for the next update. Also, are you planning on writing more warhammer 40k crossover stories in the future? Because I think everyone can agree that this will not be enough. I hope that you produce more stories after this one in the future. Keep up the good work.
Thoughts for the day: The blood of martyrs is the seed of the Imperium
Hatred is the Emperor's greatest gift to humanity.
949652 In all honesty, I hope to. When I started writing, I had this single fic in mind. I was planning on just writing this one story and dropping out of the race. Now that I've actually gotten started and found all this good reception my mind has been churning. Although I was thinking about a S.T.A.L.K.E.R crossover after this. But we shall see brother.
Inspirational speech of the day:
'You consider yourselves soldiers? Having two arms and legs, a head and a lasgun does not make you a soldier! Soldiers must prove themselves. You are maggots, crawling gross in the Emperor's garden. This is a war, and such wars feed on maggots. Do you want to be ork fodder? Make no mistake, these creatures eat maggots for breakfast! it is time to prove yourselves! It is time to goad destiny and die for the cause. Follow me, maggots, and prove yourselves soldiers, every last one of you!'
Commissar Haight, just before the glorious charge of the Korgan 1st, their first and last action.
Hunter C. Creed
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Sounds good. I would love to see either a legitimate story of Ursaker E. Creed or a longer comedy one about his tactical genius on this site. Just a suggestion.
Speech for the day:
"So. Fresh bunch'a recruits straight off the regimental home world, huh? Got your heads full of propaganda and not much else, lemme bet. Well, listen to me and listen good, kids - probably half of what you know is nothing but ambull-shit, and you'd better get that through your heads now rather than getting a traitor's lasbolt through your head on the battlefield. Now, you pray to the Emperor like you should, and if you don't the Commissar'll blow your head off, and that'll be a mercy compared to what I'll do to ya if I find out 'fore he does - but don't be thinkin' for a second that recitin' the Litany of Protection makes you invulnerable on a battlefield.
Sure, you'll hear stories about brave Guardsmen that charged enemy positions armed with nothin' but their lasguns and their bayonets and won - and I'll even admit that probably a couple of them are true, but in an army that numbers in the billions one or two of ya are bound to get lucky every now and again, so it don't really say much. No, kids, they might make for inspirin' stories, but fanatical charges aren't what win battles. Battles are won by determination and tactics. Lemme tell you about this one time our regiment was servin' under the command of General Creed.
Never a finer tactician has the Imperial Guard ever seen than that General Creed, let me tell you. He came up with plans so devious and cunnin' you didn't even have a hope of figurin' out how he'd done what he'd done 'less he explained it to ya himself. We were fightin' on Kavara IV, what'd used to be a good Imperial world till the taint of Chaos found its way down there and turned loyal citizens into traitorous scum. At the time we'd been shipped off, we thought we were just gonna be helping the local PDF put down a small insurrection, but what with the ways of the warp by the time we got there it'd turned into a full on rebel uprisin' and all the nobles were already dead or in hidin', and another army led by General Creed had arrived to bring it back under control - we'd been missin' so long they thought we'd been lost to the warp, you see, and sent another off in our place - so we wound up joinin' forces an' bolsterin' their ranks.
Now, we got deployed into one of the urban centers that'd been taken over almost entirely by the heretics, goin' through clearing buildings of resistance and tightenin' the noose around their filthy necks. Only been gettin' minor resistance until a couple of hours in, when we stumbled across a fortified plaza that hadn't been in none of the intelligence reports. So there we were, pinned down by enemy fire, usin' rubble for cover and hopin' to the Emperor that'd we get some artillery support soon, when all of a sudden there's a tremendous rumblin' off to the right, soundin' like a column of tanks comin' up towards the buildin' we'd just cleared.
We weren't gettin' nothin' about armored support on the vox, so we was sittin' there shittin' ourselves wonderin' where the traitors had got tanks from, when all of a sudden the front of the buildin' just collapses out onto the street and a damn Baneblade rolls right on out in front of us. One blast from the main gun and it turned the heretic's position into a crater. The vox lights up and we get ourselves a message - "Armored Support courtesy of General Creed", they say. Now that's tactics, kids - we never saw it comin', so those traitors sure didn't. The application of overwhelmin' force at just the right spot at just the right moment'll turn the tide of any battle in your favor.
I took a look at that buildin' again as we were marchin' down the street in the Baneblade's wake, though. Funniest thing, the only hole in it was the one the tank'd made on its way out. How the hell we missed it when we were clearin' the place I don't know. How the hell Creed got it in there in the first place, I'm not sure I WANT to know - but let me tell you, pulling that off must've taken one hell of a tactical genius."
-Sergeant Karls addressing new recruits to the Hirian 204th, shortly before being relieved of duty and sent for psychiatric evaluation due to inexplicable urges to scream incoherently.
952677 I really should name my first born son Ursaker. Out of curiosity where did you find that piece? Although I don't recall their being much swearing in 40k most of the time they replace cusses with stuff such as feth, gak, frak, kak. So on and so forth. I doubt shit would survive another 38000 years. Other swears usually revolve around the Emperor; by the Emperor, Emperors toenails, by the Golden Throne.
Hunter C. Creed
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1d4chan actually. Its on the Ursaker E. Creed page. There is at least three or four more of those stories on the page. And I would pay you to name your first born Ursaker.
Thought for the day: To admit defeat is to blaspheme against the Emperor.
Speech for the day:
The mortal moved his piece. Tzeentch, Lord of Change and Master of Destinies moved his. They were playing a game of chess. The stakes were high: if the mortal won, Tzeentch, all his daemons and followers would retreat to the Warp for all time and would never again attempt to harry the mighty Imperium of Man in any way be it directly or indirectly. If Tzeentch won (which, of course, he knew he would), the soul of the mortal went to Tzeentch. These stakes obviously seemed skewed in favor of the mortal, but there were several factors to consider.
The mortal moved another piece.
Tzeentch moved another piece.
Tzeentch had wanted this particular soul for what might have been 10 million years, or maybe 5 minutes. Who could tell in the Warp? The problem was, it was pledged to the accursed corpse-god on Terra. So Tzeentch had sought him out and challenged him.
The mortal moved.
Tzeentch moved.
Also Tzeentch, as Master of Fates, knew that he would win. He had to. He had been planning for this game for centuries before the mortal in question was ever born. He had watched, planned, schemed, and acted to ensure that the mortal would learn a certain chess strategy, one that he just "happened" to have a perfect counter to.
Another move by the mortal.
Another move by Tzeentch.
Finally, the idea of a Chaos God focusing so much on a single soul, or making such an enormous bargain was inconceivable, a fact that had never once changed, not even for Warmaster Horus. What was Tzeentch, if not the Lord of Change? So went the reasoning (if the thought process of a Chaos God can be called such) of Tzeentch.
The mortal went on for several turns.
Tzeentch went on for several turns.
Finally, the mortal got a smug look on his face. Tzeentch's beak curled into something resembling a smile.He held his head up high. The mortal moved a piece. Tzeentch spoke, in a voice that was ever shifting and could drive men mad.
"Mortal, do you not know who I am? Let me tell you. I am Tzeentch. The Changer of Ways. The Master of Fate. The Lord of Change. The Controller of Destinies. I have existed before the stars, and I will exist long after they have died. No mere mortal could possibly-"
Then Tzeentch spared a glance at the board.
"What is that pawn doing there?"
Tzeentch stared, utterly dumbstruck. His eyes bulged and his beak dropped. He saw the reason for the mortal's smugness.
Tzeentch let out a cry of rage. It was a cry that echoed throughout the Warp, driving Imperial psykers insane and Chaos sorcerers more insane.
It was checkmate.
A very small part of Tzeentch was glad. After all, being unintentionally defeated was certainly a change for him. Also, no longer interfering in the affairs of the mortal galaxy was definitely a change.
However, that was just a very small part.
Tzeentch let out a cry of rage. It was a cry that echoed throughout the Warp, driving Imperial psykers insane and Chaos sorcerers more insane. It was a cry containing a subconscious command. All across the galaxy, the daemons of Tzeentch vanished from the material world, never to return. His mortal followers began retreating, heading towards the Eye of Terror. All the Gods, daemons, and mortal followers of Chaos took notice. In the Warp near Terra, the mighty soul of the God-Emperor of Mankind himself took notice. He smiled, for he knew what it meant. It was a cry that was to echo in the Warp throughout eternity, long after the stars themselves died. It was the cry of a defeated god.
"CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!"
954204 I got off work early today. Had time on thursday and friday to start writing the next chapter. At 4500 words and wondering if I should make it a 2 or 3 parter and post what I have. What do you guys think?
And I'll hold you to that, you laugh now but in a few years you get a pm asking you to pay up
Thought of the day:
A great leader must lead! Some do this with sound tactical acumen, others do it with a bolter, leading from the front. But a most important part of leadership is speaking to the fighters. Whether this is a rousing battle cry on the eve of a great conflict, or solemn words to mourn the passing of an officer, a great leader must inspire his men to fight with stirring words!
Hunter C. Creed
954222
Your choice man. And don't worry, I'll be more than willing to pay up once you give me proof. Then you get paid and not a second earlier!
Thought for the day: A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt.
Awesome! Keep up the good work brother, for this most surely pleased the Emperor. Also, I was listening to this song throughout and the effect is amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDJKeZjtQf4&list=UUXH0roql1F04MaQSnMjU6ig&index=3&feature=plcp
the video is called The Imperial Guard, Hammer of the Emperor and includes images of various guard units including the men of Krieg. Check it out.
954614 I thought you were giving me a link to this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSR9W8g6ak8
Hunter C. Creed
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No, but still good. Also, are you going to include a section where the equestrians hear one of the guardsman's religious services? I think that their reactions would be interesting to say the least. Also there is a creed crossover on the site if you want to check it out. It's called Ursaker E. Creed Visits Equestria. Keep up the good work.
EPIC!
DEATH TO THE XENOS!
loving the various hymns and quotes you keep adding in
hoping for more death and glory soon
lulz at ponies thinking they ever had a chance.
The Griffons shall fall just as easily.
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Agreed. All xenos shall feel the Emperor's Wrath!
Horrifically good. Like Cupcakes, but somewhat else.
Gore, violence and destruction. I'm not much fan of Warhammer (played PC games mostly), but this looks epic.
My choice of song for reading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6xS_qRDmo
I JUST CHOKED ON MAH BACON!
959566 Good choking or bad choking
Hunter C. Creed
also you are gonna make another ending where the humans win.
Right?