When Jet Stream puts his and Apogee's special Tuesday nights on hold three weeks in a row, the frustrated teen decides to turn to her mother Delta Vee for help. When things don't work out like she imagined she finds herself having to improvise.
Welp, whew... another well done chapter, Rei, damn...
Mmm, not sure what else to say, it was well written, I couldn't find anything typo wise, and it was good stuff, asidefromtheApoJetheresy the chapter gets an 11/10 cheetoes. You guys all did good on this one, so keep it up!
Woot, it’s certainly worth the wait, I love every single word in this chapter Rei! What I love the most from this chapter is Delta’s motherly love towards Apogee in her own way which fits her personality perfectly. I asked you about COOLCO and I found it in about 10+ paragraphs, I’m hoping to see them using it to mount one another like in Clop’s fic while using LuvLink Glyph as well!
I’m abit relief that we won’t get blueballed as much as I expected, it’s a great build up before the actual smut in the next chapter. Also I didn’t expect the see that Apogee likes hooves as I do, although I didn’t like them sexually but ponies’ hoofies are so damn cute.
It’s a great wakeup call ever, got out from the bed and reading this instantly.
8892999 I'm quite glad that you convince him to do that, I think that it's necessary for making us wantng to anticipate for the next chapter. I hope that it won't take too long!
The only mistake I found is that you forgot to end quote on this one.
It didn't help when her mom glanced up and studied her features, clearly taking notice of the blush. "You alright there kiddo? Or do mares just really turn you on? Delta asked.
8893129 I definitely wanted Apogee's point of view about incest to seem a little more... enlightened? For lack of a better word. She just wants her mom to love her.
Yeah the hoof thing... In some ways I think the way I wrote about it comes off kind of a fetish, but I also didn't necessarily intent it to be taken that way? But It does seem like that a little. It's more just what she happens to be focused on right now... hoofsies are cute.
Seriously, I get so happy when I see a new fic with these characters pop up, all you guys who write stories about Shinodage's characters are just such great writers; when I see one pop up I basically have a 100% guarantee the fic won't be a shitpost, and will actually be written *well*, with a story in mind, not just clop for clop's sake, and properly descriptive in it's telling.
8894301 We all really enjoy telling stories about these pones. It's a lot easier to make interesting and fun stories when source material like the Space Ponyos is already so good.
8895446 I think that's why MLP fics (in general anyway :P) are so good. The characters have a surprising amount of depth and development for a kid's show, which in turn is why the fandom itself developed, which I think is something the general public tends to forget or ignore.
I've actually been thinking about trying to write a Space Ponyo fic myself, but....1) haven't been able to think of a plot 2) it'd be my first fic ever, and while I'm confident in my writing abilities, I'm unsure if I want my first fic to be a story around someone else's characters, or my own.
8896417 I've always thought the other way around: that MLP has an incredibly broad array of elements, all completely unexplored beyond their current state. By leaving so much blank space while showing so many kinds of fantastical feats, you pique the imagination without setting any real boundaries. And so many elements of the series, especially the 6 main characters, are commonly understood. An author says "manticore" or "cockatrice", they're already done explaining it, but even better, they say "Applejack, the farm girl", bam, the character's already fully fleshed out: hard-working, honest, accent, physically strong, focus on family.
Lauren Faust did a great job setting up the show, with her choice of clearly stereotyped characters and minimalistic art style. Honestly, imagine having to write fanfics about what I've seen of gen 5. Describing just the nuances of their coat colors will be frustrating enough.
I think the show grew weaker when she left, because they started filling in all the blank spaces: Twilight grows more powerful (less room to grow, I loved reading Twilight-becomes-an-alicorn fics), villains are reformed left and right, backstory comes flooding in. The changelings were by far the most interesting element ever added, but they never did something like that again, so authors have had to invent their own elements to do new things, and it's mostly been sci-fi ever since.
Ah, sorry for rambling. Space ponyo fics are very different from more standard MLP fics because of how deep, as opposed to broad, the source material is. I'd say it makes stories very easy to write, but also limits how much can be said about the subject. Creative space will run out a lot faster (aside from smut, which can always fit in more.)
...and it was well worth the wait. I love this mother-daughter bonding, the personal and intimate connection they create. I love their awkwardness and stuttering, every little pause and hitch. I love how genuine they are and I’ll thank Everfree for such a heart-to-heart moment.
I’m a sucker for stories in which sex isn’t the ultimate goal, but it’s employed as a powerful narrative tool to bring a greater point across. It’s great to see a new outstanding example of a story that does it so well.
And what’s to come? Now I’m more curious than ever about the upcoming chapter. I’ll break a lance in favor of Clops: this feels like a good point for a break, while still keeping the interest for the follow-up at an all-time high.
8896417 I'd mostly agree with your assessment. You should give writing a chance. Anyone who can write in English has the potential write an awesome story. It's daunting to start, but after you get those first few paragraphs out of the way it gets better and better.
8896924 I'd say some of what you said makes sense. I personally think a lot more of it comes down to how popular and quality the original source material is. MLP was really good even before the art scene got big for it. It's the fact it was always good that drew people to it and it snowballed from there. The same is true for Space Ponyos. People like Shino as an artist and Clops' smash hit fic drew more people in and the whole OC cast became popular which only draws more and more people in.
8897338 Yeah I'm not good about doing smut on its own. Everything I write needs to have some kind of larger theme or narrative or I won't be able to write worth a damn. In a lot of ways I don't see Apovee as a fic about a a mom and her daughter having sex.. it's more a story about them learning to respect and appreciate each other more than they did before. The sex is kinda just a bonus... or at least a common meeting point for them since both are really sexual by nature.
8897338 Couldn't have said it better myself lol. xRei gets those tender moments down splendidly, and it's super awesome to see a more tender, motherly side to Vee.
You should give writing a chance. Anyone who can write in English has the potential write an awesome story. It's daunting to start, but after you get those first few paragraphs out of the way it gets better and better.
Yeah, like I said before, it's not so much a motivation or anxiety problem, or a skill problem (not to brag, but English and Literature professors friggin' LOVED me lol), as it is an issue of 'Ok, what the actual hell DO I write...?' I have one or two very basic ideas, but when it comes to actually fleshing things out and thinking about where they'll go and eventually end, I just keep drawing blanks. Like sure, I don't need EVERY detail fully hammered out before I start, but I kinda want more than just the initial idea. I tried doing that (just starting to write with the basic idea for something) a few years back, with an intro fic for my OC I never ended up publishing, and it ended up just petering out cuz I didn't know where I wanted to go with it.
8898718 The extend of my planning is usually just several sentences laying out in very basic detail what will likely happen in the story. 98% of the rest just sort of comes to me as I write. Things also change a lot as I go. I don't think it's a good idea to keep yourself beholden to any static 'idea'. Pick a general idea for a plot, jot down how you think it might go and then just write. Writing is the only important part. If you're writing, the ideas will come.
8899508 That's what I meant, sorry if I spoke poorly lol. Like, all I have right now is "OK, I wanna do a fic about Space Ponyos, and I wanna do a fic about my OC...but what do I wanna *do* with them?" Like yeah, I have a *very* basic idea for each-the Space Ponyo one I think is gonna be in a setting where 'Gee is in her late teens/early twenties and confronts her parents about their neglect and their bullshit, the one about my OC is going to be an intro fic/slice of life with some romance...but that's *all* I have right now, the ideas are *too* basic to begin writing, to the point I don't know how to start them off, much less where I want them to end up, I don't have enough to do something like what you do and get just a couple sentences outlining a basic plotline. I actually tried a little while ago and I kinda just stared at the screen lol. I agree that once you start the fleshed out ideas just come, but that's my problem, getting the first few sentences down.
She wasn't willing to get oversized horsedick stuck in her every time she wanted to see her mom smile though.
Aside from that, I gotta say I loved every bit of this! I don't even want the sex! I just want more Apogee/Delta bonding. It was a pretty neat thing to have them bond over and I think the best possible topic, considering both of their interest in sex. Pls, moar?
Cute, awkward, and sweet. Now I really want to see how apogee tries and probably fails to hide her willingness to bang her own mom.
On a separate note, I kinda end up questioning myself though when I see foalcon incest taken to this level of love and affection. I know it's unrealistic and even dangerous, even at high school ages, but this story plays things out just right to where things kinda work out anyway with minimal consequences. I doubt it would convince me to try and take things like this in my own life, but I worries me when I think about those that might have more temptations and less sense.
Every story in the series does seem to revolve around chance and abandoned restraint giving way to rampant sex with few protective measures. I know they wouldn't try to hurt Apogee, and that Apogee is the instigator for most of it, but it still feels like it invites the idea of someone baiting a high school kid they have a certain feelings for to initiate contact or to take advantage of situations where they have to be the one to say no. There are various countries that have a fairly low age of consent which would allow legal coupling with teenagers as low as 14 or 15 so that also adds a layer of question over just what the right age is for determining someone's readiness for sex with a far older person (some of which has to do with how open the society is and it's willingness to teach kids about sex and how).
Then there is the whole incest thing. Where is the line drawn between a grooming parent or family member with a fetish and an honest attraction between them? What about inbreeding dangers? Fantasy is one thing but stories that glaze over those things repeatedly can tell people what they want to hear and weaken their resistance or willingness to seek help
8980436 Well, I can't speak for every other story about incest and 'underage characters', but I have tried to tackle it with some semblance of due respect. Whether I succeeded is something that other people can decide for themselves.
All I can really say is that it is, ultimately, only fantasy. And while juveniles are more likely to be swept away by fantasy than adults, we also shouldn't sell children's ability to tell fantasy from reality too short.
I'd love if we lived in a world where the things we talk about, write about and sing about didn't unduly affect the most vulnerable members of our society, but that simply isn't always going to be possible. The alternative would be to curtail those creative outlets and freedoms that we all enjoy, which is—in my own mind at least—worse than the small numbers of people who are negatively affected by those things. I'd love it if that never happened, but... that's life.
Love it so much Rei! Great work on this chapter on the story overall!
Definitely my fault on the ending everyone - but great things come to those who wait, and I'm sure Rei will do an amazing job with the lewds!
Welp, whew... another well done chapter, Rei, damn...
Mmm, not sure what else to say, it was well written, I couldn't find anything typo wise, and it was good stuff, asidefromtheApoJetheresy the chapter gets an 11/10 cheetoes. You guys all did good on this one, so keep it up!
Apogee is seeing intimacy as into-me-I-see, which is what I really love about incest. You can't get a closer bond then that~
Woot, it’s certainly worth the wait, I love every single word in this chapter Rei! What I love the most from this chapter is Delta’s motherly love towards Apogee in her own way which fits her personality perfectly. I asked you about COOLCO and I found it in about 10+ paragraphs, I’m hoping to see them using it to mount one another like in Clop’s fic while using LuvLink Glyph as well!
I’m abit relief that we won’t get blueballed as much as I expected, it’s a great build up before the actual smut in the next chapter. Also I didn’t expect the see that Apogee likes hooves as I do, although I didn’t like them sexually but ponies’ hoofies are so damn cute.
It’s a great wakeup call ever, got out from the bed and reading this instantly.
8892999
I'm quite glad that you convince him to do that, I think that it's necessary for making us wantng to anticipate for the next chapter. I hope that it won't take too long!
The only mistake I found is that you forgot to end quote on this one.
8893129
I definitely wanted Apogee's point of view about incest to seem a little more... enlightened? For lack of a better word. She just wants her mom to love her.
8893337
Yeah the hoof thing... In some ways I think the way I wrote about it comes off kind of a fetish, but I also didn't necessarily intent it to be taken that way? But It does seem like that a little. It's more just what she happens to be focused on right now... hoofsies are cute.
Glad the blueballing wasn't too much.
Also, fixed. Thanks.
OMFG MORE SPACE PONYOS, WOOOOO!
Seriously, I get so happy when I see a new fic with these characters pop up, all you guys who write stories about Shinodage's characters are just such great writers; when I see one pop up I basically have a 100% guarantee the fic won't be a shitpost, and will actually be written *well*, with a story in mind, not just clop for clop's sake, and properly descriptive in it's telling.
Plus the characters are just fun too ;)
8894301
We all really enjoy telling stories about these pones. It's a lot easier to make interesting and fun stories when source material like the Space Ponyos is already so good.
8895446
I think that's why MLP fics (in general anyway :P) are so good. The characters have a surprising amount of depth and development for a kid's show, which in turn is why the fandom itself developed, which I think is something the general public tends to forget or ignore.
I've actually been thinking about trying to write a Space Ponyo fic myself, but....1) haven't been able to think of a plot 2) it'd be my first fic ever, and while I'm confident in my writing abilities, I'm unsure if I want my first fic to be a story around someone else's characters, or my own.
8896417
I've always thought the other way around: that MLP has an incredibly broad array of elements, all completely unexplored beyond their current state. By leaving so much blank space while showing so many kinds of fantastical feats, you pique the imagination without setting any real boundaries. And so many elements of the series, especially the 6 main characters, are commonly understood. An author says "manticore" or "cockatrice", they're already done explaining it, but even better, they say "Applejack, the farm girl", bam, the character's already fully fleshed out: hard-working, honest, accent, physically strong, focus on family.
Lauren Faust did a great job setting up the show, with her choice of clearly stereotyped characters and minimalistic art style. Honestly, imagine having to write fanfics about what I've seen of gen 5. Describing just the nuances of their coat colors will be frustrating enough.
I think the show grew weaker when she left, because they started filling in all the blank spaces: Twilight grows more powerful (less room to grow, I loved reading Twilight-becomes-an-alicorn fics), villains are reformed left and right, backstory comes flooding in. The changelings were by far the most interesting element ever added, but they never did something like that again, so authors have had to invent their own elements to do new things, and it's mostly been sci-fi ever since.
Ah, sorry for rambling. Space ponyo fics are very different from more standard MLP fics because of how deep, as opposed to broad, the source material is. I'd say it makes stories very easy to write, but also limits how much can be said about the subject. Creative space will run out a lot faster (aside from smut, which can always fit in more.)
Yay update!
...and it was well worth the wait. I love this mother-daughter bonding, the personal and intimate connection they create. I love their awkwardness and stuttering, every little pause and hitch. I love how genuine they are and I’ll thank Everfree for such a heart-to-heart moment.
I’m a sucker for stories in which sex isn’t the ultimate goal, but it’s employed as a powerful narrative tool to bring a greater point across. It’s great to see a new outstanding example of a story that does it so well.
And what’s to come? Now I’m more curious than ever about the upcoming chapter. I’ll break a lance in favor of Clops: this feels like a good point for a break, while still keeping the interest for the follow-up at an all-time high.
8896417
I'd mostly agree with your assessment.
You should give writing a chance. Anyone who can write in English has the potential write an awesome story. It's daunting to start, but after you get those first few paragraphs out of the way it gets better and better.
8896924
I'd say some of what you said makes sense. I personally think a lot more of it comes down to how popular and quality the original source material is. MLP was really good even before the art scene got big for it. It's the fact it was always good that drew people to it and it snowballed from there. The same is true for Space Ponyos. People like Shino as an artist and Clops' smash hit fic drew more people in and the whole OC cast became popular which only draws more and more people in.
8897338
Yeah I'm not good about doing smut on its own. Everything I write needs to have some kind of larger theme or narrative or I won't be able to write worth a damn. In a lot of ways I don't see Apovee as a fic about a a mom and her daughter having sex.. it's more a story about them learning to respect and appreciate each other more than they did before. The sex is kinda just a bonus... or at least a common meeting point for them since both are really sexual by nature.
8897338
Couldn't have said it better myself lol. xRei gets those tender moments down splendidly, and it's super awesome to see a more tender, motherly side to Vee.
8898286
Yeah, like I said before, it's not so much a motivation or anxiety problem, or a skill problem (not to brag, but English and Literature professors friggin' LOVED me lol), as it is an issue of 'Ok, what the actual hell DO I write...?' I have one or two very basic ideas, but when it comes to actually fleshing things out and thinking about where they'll go and eventually end, I just keep drawing blanks. Like sure, I don't need EVERY detail fully hammered out before I start, but I kinda want more than just the initial idea. I tried doing that (just starting to write with the basic idea for something) a few years back, with an intro fic for my OC I never ended up publishing, and it ended up just petering out cuz I didn't know where I wanted to go with it.
8898718
The extend of my planning is usually just several sentences laying out in very basic detail what will likely happen in the story. 98% of the rest just sort of comes to me as I write. Things also change a lot as I go. I don't think it's a good idea to keep yourself beholden to any static 'idea'. Pick a general idea for a plot, jot down how you think it might go and then just write. Writing is the only important part. If you're writing, the ideas will come.
8899508
That's what I meant, sorry if I spoke poorly lol. Like, all I have right now is "OK, I wanna do a fic about Space Ponyos, and I wanna do a fic about my OC...but what do I wanna *do* with them?" Like yeah, I have a *very* basic idea for each-the Space Ponyo one I think is gonna be in a setting where 'Gee is in her late teens/early twenties and confronts her parents about their neglect and their bullshit, the one about my OC is going to be an intro fic/slice of life with some romance...but that's *all* I have right now, the ideas are *too* basic to begin writing, to the point I don't know how to start them off, much less where I want them to end up, I don't have enough to do something like what you do and get just a couple sentences outlining a basic plotline. I actually tried a little while ago and I kinda just stared at the screen lol. I agree that once you start the fleshed out ideas just come, but that's my problem, getting the first few sentences down.
Aside from that, I gotta say I loved every bit of this!
I don't even want the sex!I just want more Apogee/Delta bonding. It was a pretty neat thing to have them bond over and I think the best possible topic, considering both of their interest in sex.
Pls, moar?
8900563
Heh.. Thinking about it maybe she would do 'that' after all.
But yes there will be more bonding stuff. It will in fact be the focus for the most part. Though ch4 will be a heavy lewd chapter of course.
8900952
Well, that is for you to decide, here, after all C:
Of course I'm not gonna deny lewds when it's nice enough to spread itself out right in front o' me, but y'know.
This is really good my dude.
Cute, awkward, and sweet. Now I really want to see how apogee tries and probably fails to hide her willingness to bang her own mom.
On a separate note, I kinda end up questioning myself though when I see foalcon incest taken to this level of love and affection. I know it's unrealistic and even dangerous, even at high school ages, but this story plays things out just right to where things kinda work out anyway with minimal consequences. I doubt it would convince me to try and take things like this in my own life, but I worries me when I think about those that might have more temptations and less sense.
Every story in the series does seem to revolve around chance and abandoned restraint giving way to rampant sex with few protective measures. I know they wouldn't try to hurt Apogee, and that Apogee is the instigator for most of it, but it still feels like it invites the idea of someone baiting a high school kid they have a certain feelings for to initiate contact or to take advantage of situations where they have to be the one to say no. There are various countries that have a fairly low age of consent which would allow legal coupling with teenagers as low as 14 or 15 so that also adds a layer of question over just what the right age is for determining someone's readiness for sex with a far older person (some of which has to do with how open the society is and it's willingness to teach kids about sex and how).
Then there is the whole incest thing. Where is the line drawn between a grooming parent or family member with a fetish and an honest attraction between them? What about inbreeding dangers? Fantasy is one thing but stories that glaze over those things repeatedly can tell people what they want to hear and weaken their resistance or willingness to seek help
8900952
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Another great chapter! Good to see Apogee bonding more with Delta.
9061800
Not gonna lie, I actually laughed out loud when I saw this. Nice one.
I will deliver though. Soon.
8980436
Well, I can't speak for every other story about incest and 'underage characters', but I have tried to tackle it with some semblance of due respect. Whether I succeeded is something that other people can decide for themselves.
All I can really say is that it is, ultimately, only fantasy. And while juveniles are more likely to be swept away by fantasy than adults, we also shouldn't sell children's ability to tell fantasy from reality too short.
I'd love if we lived in a world where the things we talk about, write about and sing about didn't unduly affect the most vulnerable members of our society, but that simply isn't always going to be possible. The alternative would be to curtail those creative outlets and freedoms that we all enjoy, which is—in my own mind at least—worse than the small numbers of people who are negatively affected by those things. I'd love it if that never happened, but... that's life.
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