A Vengeful Death Wi$h (Part 2) - Bringing the Violence
While the crew moved quickly inside the warehouse, across the street, Houston began unpacking his 'insurance'. After making sure the scope was attached and zeroed, and that a full mag of five .50 caliber rounds was loaded, he looked back to the roof, where it appeared the deal was happening right now.
"You guys better hurry," he said. "I can make sure the choppers don't leave, but the rest is up to you."
"Don't worry, we got it under control," Dallas said.
Back inside, Wolf just finished applying the last brick of C4 to the ceiling. Thankfully, nearly all of the guards and mercs were topside, so they met no resistance getting into position.
"We ready?" Wolf asked, thumb hovering over the detonator.
The others nodded. "Let's blow this party sky high," Hoxton said, the grin on his face matching the one on his mask.
Wolf slammed down on the detonator, and a whole section of the roof was blown out, then caved in. Numerous bodies were in the wreckage, mostly Murkywater mercs, but in the chaos, they spotted the case containing the Elements.
Shooting the few survivors of the blast, Chains grabbed it. "Got it!"
"You got red lights all across the board, crew!" Bain said. "You already got SWAT teams dispatched to your location. Keep those guns up!"
Shortly after the explosion, several deafening gunshots rang out from across the street, disabling both choppers.
"Alright, birds are grounded," Houston reported. "I'll keep a lookout for anything nasty."
Outside, a number of police cars and SWAT vans pulled up, blocking off all roads away from the warehouse.
This didn't go unnoticed by Bain. "Shit, all roads are blocked, we're gonna need an alternate escape. Let me see what I can find..."
Back inside the warehouse, the first wave of SWAT units entered, only to be gunned down by the crew. Notably, while every other SWAT unit they had fought had a SWAT patch on them, these guys had GenSec patches, instead. They also seemed to have better armor and were much better shots.
Still, it wasn't anything the gang couldn't handle.
Behind them, the same manhole they originally entered through opened up as a Cloaker emerged. Wolf spun around and spotted him just as he barreled forward and kicked the Swede right in the jaw. Not even a second before he hit the ground, Dallas unleashed a torrent of gunfire at the Cloaker, killing him.
Seeing Wolf on the ground, Dallas shouted a few words of encouragement. "Pain is just mental! Get off your ass!"
Sufficiently inspired, Wolf shook off the pain enough to get back to his feet and keep shooting, though a killer headache was still making itself known.
Suddenly, the cops threw down some smoke at the door, which a unique Bulldozer walked out of. This 'Dozer had much thicker armor, a skull painted on his faceplate, and an LMG instead of their usual shotgun.
"BULLDOZER! MAKE WAY!" he shouted, beginning to open fire. The crew immediately ducked down as the hail of bullets flew overhead, and Hoxton threw out a grenade to try and disorient him.
The plan worked, and after the ensuing explosion, the crew hightailed it up the stairs, though not before taking a few potshots at the Dozer.
Back upstairs, the four reloaded their weapons as they listened to the Dozer's heavy footsteps following them up the stairs.
"Stay alive... A little longer... So I can kill you myself!" he taunted as he exited the stairwell. However, the four of them were seemingly gone.
"What the hell- The Bulldozer was cut off as a fifty cal round was shot through a nearby window, penetrating straight through his faceplate, killing him.
"Dozer's gone!" Houston said.
As the crew emerged from cover, they began shooting at the cops who were right behind the slain Dozer. Shields led the way, though they were easily flanked and dealt with.
"What's the plan, Bain?!" Wolf shouted as he gunned down a Tazer. "We're waiting!"
"Alright, this is tricky, but I think I can get you guys out of there. First, regroup with Houston at the south end of the warehouse yard. There should be plenty of shipping crates to provide cover."
"Alright, moving out. Stay alive, guys, you'll be without sniper support for a while."
Back across the street, Houston began packing his .50 cal rifle back up, and began heading to the roof of the building. There, an innocent-looking cable led all the way from there to the roof of the warehouse. To the average observer, it looked pointless. To the eye of a trained criminal, however, it was seen as a shortcut.
Making sure he had a good grip, Houston took a running leap and began ziplining to the warehouse roof. A few cops noticed him and took potshots, but none of them hit.
Once he landed, he quickly sprinted to the south end of the building, where the other four were already fighting for their lives in the yard, hiding in a small grouping of shipping containers.
Using another container to break his fall, Houston ran through gunfire to the others, where he immediately hunkered down and began to return fire at the cops. "Alright, what's the plan?"
"Just, just give me two minutes. You'll thank me later, just don't die!"
"Oh, that's pretty encouraging!" Hoxton said, popping helmets into the air one at a time with his rifle.
"Just keep the pressure up!" Chains said back, narrowly avoiding a Tazer's namesake."We'll keep the sons of bitches back!"
"They just won't let up!" Houston yelled, grabbing more ammo from a nearby dead officer. "Jesus, this is a normal day for you guys?!"
"You'll learn to love it, trust me!" Dallas shouted back, applying the final few shots to another 'Skulldozer'.
"Okay, guys, get ready to run!"
Suddenly, they could hear an engine revving over the sound of the firefight, and soon after a bus smashed through the nearby wall, taking out an unlucky Cloaker. "Alright, go! Go! There's a van in the neighboring parking lot for you, now move your asses!"
The crew wasted no time, piling into the crashed bus's open door, then moving to the back and leaving through the other door. Sure enough, another van was waiting for them, and one after another they piled in.
Houston got behind the wheel, and within moments they were rolling back onto the road, police cars, SWAT vans, and police choppers all moving to chase.
After pulling onto the main highway out of town, the crew looked behind them to see quite a lot of cops on their tail.
"You got the whole damn police force on your ass! I hope you have a plan, Houston!"
"Don't worry, I got it!" Houston flipped a switch on a device he pulled from his pocket, then placed in in the empty seat next to him.
"What do you have planned?" Dallas asked.
"You'll see."
The chase continued for a couple more minutes, leaving the town behind and entering the desert. The pursuit didn't let up at all, however.
Up ahead, a pair of radio towers sat on either side of the road. Upon seeing them, Houston grinned, though the others didn't notice.
Just before they passed them, Houston began counting down. "And five, four, three, two..."
A moment after they passed the towers, a pair of explosions broke out at their bases, causing them to fall inwards towards each other- And the road.
Almost the entirety of the pursuing vehicles were taken out, and even the choppers were knocked out of the air. All that was left chasing them was a single police car, which was easily dealt with by way of Dallas opening the back door and shooting the driver.
Once they were sure they were clear, everyone in the van let out a loud cheer, celebrating their victory.
"Fucking assholes deserved it!" Chains said, looking over the Elements they had just recovered. "And now we get off the hook, too!"
"Not so fast, guys," Bain warned, "we're not out of the woods yet. We still have to meet with Celestia. I'll contact her now. Let's just hope we'll be done with this afterwards."
"When we get to a bar, remind me to buy you crazy bastards a drink, alright?" Hoxton said.
The rest laughed as they drove off into the early morning light.
Celestia stared out over the ballroom, the aftermath of the incident still present. Bullet holes marked the walls here and there, blood stains were evident on the ground, and empty shell casings littered the floor. As she began her duty of setting the sunrise in motion, she thought about what had happened. If only she had been here, she could've stopped it herself, then-
"Sister!"
Celestia was broken out of her thoughts by her sister rushing into the ballroom behind her. "What is it, Luna?"
"You have a call." Luna levitated the phone closer to the elder princess, who raised an eyebrow in confusion.
"And how is this impor-"
"It's him."
All of a sudden, the words died in Celestia's throat, and it felt like the room was spinning. Wordlessly, she accepted the phone.
"Yes?"
"We've done our part, now you do yours. The bridge just outside Las Pegasus in one hour. Be there."
The line clicked dead, and for a second, Celestia didn't know what to do. She figured it out quickly, though, and turned to a nearby guard, who looked like he was about to doze off.
"You!" Celestia called out, making the guard jump as he quickly recovered and snapped to a salute. "Assemble a small team of pegasus guards, and tell them to meet me at the castle gates in five minutes."
The guard saluted. "At once!" He ran off, while Celestia let out a sigh.
"Let us hope this is the last we'll see of them," she said, leaving her sister behind as she walked to the front of the castle.
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4601123 .......... easily kill a demigod that can cut her own castle in half with a simple spell...............
lady celestia give me strenght...
....celestia you can just butcher them from a distance, you know. they really wouldn't survive you if you did. you know, castle piercing lazers and such............
course it wouldn't be a humans are superior story if the ponie acutally USED their powers.
4639769 So if humans suck so much and are inferior why don't you do us a favor and kill yourself?
Why are they carrying out there end of the deal anyway? They already have their freedom and can make a shitload of cash from selling the elements.
4639795 Hey you are that fucking bitch I hate.
how are you you little misanthrope
4639795 You know what I find funny? Is how you whined and shit about HaS users attacking you, but then you go to a HaS story and write shit like that.
Seriously. I'd said this before and I'll say it again, you're a hypocrite, and you obviously only do this shit to argue with people cause a logical person would just not read stories he/she knows they won't like.
I mean really, it's painfully obvious how much you do this just to get into fights. That or you really are just that stupid. Which is believable.
HELL YEA!! revenge bitch!......
*ahem*
I still love this story, and I can't wait for the next chapter!
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Look, Celestia might be able to cut a castle in half with a spell, but Celestia's essentially an immortal US President, and the US Presidency has the Nuclear Football, which could vaporize the castle with a bomb. On top of that, I don't care how cool you are, a well-aimed .50 cal Raufoss round to the face will kill you dead. On top of it being a .50 cal, it's high explosive, armor piercing AND incendiary. That's overkill unless you are literally an organic tank. Like, with the machine gun AND the tank gun.
Sure, we can argue about magic alloys and shield spells, but she doesn't walk around with shield spells up all the time and she also doesn't use magic alloy armor on her head, and all it takes is one shot (and the FINDER system can find and recognize her through 20 feet of solid concrete, too). It's always easier to destroy than to create or preserve.
4639828 cause master chief butchered other humans like sheep when they gave him greate rpower than them.
i am referencing halo but it is my point. master chief managed to over power basically five navi seals in hand to hand combat by himself. he crippled severla of them, and two died likely by adccident. it was nto because he was human, it was because he was given greater power than a human can normally wield.
if something has human intelligence and superior attributes, it has the advantage. be it human or anything else.
4639927 she took one of those stone piercing blasts to the chest and got back up seemingly unscathed dude. that is raw energy we are talking about, a lot more destructive than matter.
also whose to say she wouldn't have that kind of shield? if these guys can pull of insane heists without just ending up dead then she can cast a shield to save herself easily.
these guys don't even have the excuse of magical power to explain the messed up stuff they do.
4639930 What the fuck does this have to do with what I said and the master chief killed 4 ODST in a boxing match because the tried to beat him up Master Chief saved humanity. he is a god damn hero
4639953 ..... this was before he became a legend. he fought five of them, and won because he had far superior physiology nad power to them. and two of them he killed accidentally........ that is how strong he was, he accidentaly killed people he was fighting. the fight was described as him just tossing a bunch fo rag dolls around. all the training they had, despite their sueprior numbers, and they were cast aside like trash.
it was not because he was a human. it is because he had superior abilities to a human and their intelligence.
only reason why this stupid humans are superior thing exists, as i see it, is because someone realized that ponies have a lot of advantage of a human and wanted to make up a reason why humans are somehow better than our betters.
even if they were fucking lizard men and gods this group would exist.
also what i mean is idiots like you who just spout hate rather than give an actual discussion.
4639968 We don't sprout much hate but people like you make us hate misanthropes you are nothing but a cancer to us all we made the Master Chief and he protected us in the halo series 2 accidental deaths of other humans discounting the rebels
The reason we don't have intelligent discussions is because you are never consistent and sprout random bullshit
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The hypocrisy... it's so high... critical failure of containment chambers imminent. WARNING WARNING CONTAINMENT FAILURE IN PROGESS
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Mmmm, I'm gonna have to disagree with you about raw energy being more destructive than matter. Raw energy is actually really terrible at conveying destructive power. Lasers, flamethrowers, tesla coils... All loses LOADS of energy just from atmospheric bleedoff, since there's no insulation. Also, I haven't actually seen when she took a stone piercing blast to the chest, but a Raufoss round would shatter a stone (and if you REALLY want to go overkill, use a .50 cal wax slug for maximum kinetic transference through reverse granular impact, ensuring that all ~18k joules are transferred directly to the head.
Also, does she LOOK like she walks around with a shield all the time? If we're using the show's wildly varying power levels for characters, she got owned by Chrysalis like a chump using just a raw energy beam duel. Also, even her horn glows whenever she uses a spell, and it's not glowing ALL the time.
Plus, if you wanted to severely hurt her all you REALLY need is some radiology medicine. Dump enough of that into the sewage system and turn everybody in Canterlot into a walking dirty bomb, including her. Yeah, it's total bastardry, but Bain definitely has ways he can get at her.
4639993 it could be part of her regalia. to prevent her from being attacked by mundane facotrs........
also that bleedoff stuff would not apply to energy that can be controlled directly and chrysalis was shooting raw energy too if you did not notice.
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Electricity can be controlled directly, and if you're specifically babysitting the energy every Planck length of the way so it doesn't bleedoff you're going to get bleedoff simply from the babysitting. Also, sure, we can say her regalia has a shield spell on it. She still takes it off to go to sleep and the glass window is, well, glass. Sure, we can say shield spell again, but if they can shut off Twilight's magic with some zip-ties they can shut off a window's shield spell with some emitters.
Also, again, dirty bombs.
EDIT: I'm gonna have to cut it off here because sleep and we're clogging up this author's amazing story page. If you want, we can make a conversation.
4640018 ..... okay that makes no god dman sense. zip ties? duct tape at least has the excuse of covering the horn surface, but zip ties wouldn't do shit.
radio trnasmiters would not work to repel magic either.............. isn't it that magic distorts readio signals and not the other way around?
This is a questionable story at best. Then again we are setting tow things that can be declared extreme nonsense against each other......... Think it would have been more even matched than what has been given all things considered.
Also what is with the humans are superior group? Every time I ever seen anyone discussing against it I see a bunch of assholes coming up. I have heard good reasons on both sides, but often enough it is more the hams being jackasses.
Personal thoughts, it all depends on the fiction, all depends ont he fiction. Though I do not say that if the story has contrived reasoning behind it all. Would same the same to someone saying that ponies are bullet proof naturally or something, to be fair.
4640009 Typically I have learned to just ignore you, or make joke comments, cause the times when I've sat down and made nice, logical, civil, arguments with you, you would ignore what I said, twist it to mean something else, or (and most common) just ignore me completely to attack someone who's just using insults rather than a nice civil argument because they're an easier target.
But I'll try it again in my old style.
First, what makes your arguments flawed is how much of your headcanon you use and try to pass off as canon. I have mentioned this before, but I think I'll need to mention it every time I argue with you as you have yet to learn that these types of arguments should only be made with canon.
Lets start with an obvious headcanon example.
This should go without saying as having no canon bases of being true, even remotely.
And by remotely I mean at all. As in completely and totally no canon evidence.
...At all.
Therefore anyone can easily say it isn't so. Which is why you keep headcanon out of these kinds of arguments, because it means the opposing party can easily deny it, and not be wrong in doing so.
Ignoring the whole "raw energy" skit, which I assume you're meaning as the same thing as "pure energy" which... simply doesn't exist.
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Just because she took a blast of X energy capable of doing X amount of damage to stone doesn't mean she'd be able to take a hit of Y energy doing X amount of damage to stone.
What I mean by this is she could be resistant to magical energy, but not other types of energy, such as kinetic energy a bullet would have. Because they do their damage via different means.
The first example of a material resistant to one energy but not another that comes to mind would be the ceramic heat shield of the Space Shuttle. It can withstand huge amounts of heat energy, obviously to keep the Shuttle intact during re-entry, but it's quite fragile to a kinetic impact. Exampled by the Shuttle Columbia whose heat shield was damaged by foam of all things and was destroyed in re-entry because of it.
Another example in fiction is Star Trek's shields. The shields are modulated at a specific frequency, and the ship's weapons match this frequency so they can shoot through the shields, but weapon's fire of other frequencies cannot just slip through.
The Borg make a good example too, they identify the frequency of the weapons being fired at them and then modulate their shields to the exact counter frequency to be immune, but all it takes for the enemy to penetrate them again is to remodulate their weapon's frequency.
So basically what I'm saying is that an alicorn's natural biology may have evolved to be resistant to the "frequency" magic operates at. And that using those attacks doesn't 100% prove beyond a doubt they'd be just as resistant to a bullet or other projectile, or even other energy weapon, such as a laser.
Man, I choose the smallest comment to reply to, and it's still a huge counter argument I write.
4640207 dude, there is no canon basis for humans even entering equestria, it is contrived and unveven concept to solely think of what humans are capable of and not what equestria could have developed itself. that is my problem with most, if not all, stories. they do not give legitimate reasons why humans are superior because they make the hwole damn thing lopsided in the human's favor. and then they make excuses like that ponies would not react to the threat, arguing against canon factors like earth ponies being super strong, claiming all unicorns are unable to actually use magic (they would not have spellbooks if that was the case), and further garbage and excuses.
if humans could attack equestria, it would be an even match with the humans dealing with unknown powers and the ponies more aggressive enemies. eventually though magic would win out because magic in equestria can be changed, new spells invented, spells able to tear apart human equipment and leave humans helpless. as humans would develop weaons to fight an enemy, ponies would both mimic human weapons and develop magic as well.
and don't bring up that bull about ponies not knowing how to react to violent sapient beings. there are predators that hunt and eat ponies and are sapient. they have the capacity for violence themselves. and they fight back if threatened.
and no one would use a fucking nuke during an invasion, cause no one EVER wants to resort to nuclear deterrents.
4640242 This is why I pretty much ignore you. But I'll try to deconstruct it anyways.
Ah, I see, so that makes it perfectly okay to ignore canon and use your own headcanon. /sarcasm.
Actually a lot of stories with humans and ponies working side-by-side have ponies working with humans to adapt tech to their anatomy.
In pony vs human fics it's not as common because it's typically a rapid affair, and R&D takes time, not to mention the implementation of new devices and spells. Just because they have magic doesn't mean this process is instantaneous.
I don't know if this is true or not without specific examples, as just saying "threat" could mean anything. For example a sniper who shoots a unicorn, even though the unicorn has magic it doesn't mean anything because he/she wouldn't know what hit him/her. Or in the case of a human turning the corner of a building with a shotgun and then blasting the pony on the other side, when the pony wasn't expecting such a thing, would still mean a dead pony, because at that close of a range reaction time would be slower than the time it'd take for the pellets to hit the pony.
However a pony who sees a human shoot another pony and then turn to point the gun towards him/her would have time to react. If it's a unicorn, and if he/she is calm and not panicking at what's happening, then he/she probably would be able to take the gun from the guy, unless the guy was white knuckling it, but even then the jerking around and such would make it impossible for him to aim.
So this statement cannot be proven true or false without more information.
While earth ponies do have superior strength than humans, I know from looking at your other comments throughout this site that you exaggerate their ability, and use gag feats to support your claims.
Actually this does have canon backing. In Season 1 Twilight stated in a conversation with RD that unicorns can only learn magic related to their special talent (Their cutie mark) unless their talent is magic in general, like hers. The spell books would be for ponies like her, or for ponies to learn spells related to their special talent.
This is not guaranteed, as sure ponies would develop new things in a prolonged war, there's nothing that says for 100% undeniable fact humans can't develop things that counter magic. In fact in canon we know there are materials that can reflect magic, that even a light flick to the horn can disable magic (Though it can be restarted right after) and such.
As I see it, it depends on a number of factors, but in most cases it could go either way. However in cases where it's ponies trying to wipe out humanity I don't think so, our huge population difference in a united humanity situation would mean we'd have more people working R&D than Equestria would have as a population.
As for human weapons. I disagree. While guns and such are fairly simple to reverse engineer unicorns would be the only ones to be able to use them as well/better than a human. I've gone into heavy thought on creating systems for ponies to use who aren't unicorns, and they all would have one drawback or another that their human counterparts don't have. Typically the flaw is rate of deployment of weapon, or control of weapon's movements.
And things such as modern missiles and smart munitions would take a very long time for a turn-of-the-20th-century society to reverse engineer, a very, very long time. It would have to be a prolonged war to give them the time to do it. GPS weapons, for example, obviously require GPS, which means the ponies would need something akin to a satellite network, or they could use airships, but those can be shot down fairly easily.
More likely they'd just create their own things, not copy humans.
I have yet to see a sapient predator that hunts and eats ponies. I see sapient predators that could hunt and eat a pony, such as dragons, but I have yet to see a fully sapient predator actively hunting them. Though it's 4AM and I could be missing something, but I don't think I am here.
Never said they didn't.
It's much more muted than humans though it is there, yes. Humans can have the capacity for an extreme measure of cruelty that goes beyond simple violence, though that's not exactly something to be proud of...
You never stated what kind of battle it was, still haven't other than it's humanity invading Equestria. Under the right conditions a nuke would be used, or it may not be, there is insufficient data to say accurately whether one would or would not be used.
Now, with that out of the way, a couple things, first: do you feel like a big man thumbing down my comment? Hmm? I never thumbed down yours, and yet you claim you want a civil debate, I give you a civil debate and that is how you treat it. You obviously do not want a civil debate if it doesn't agree with you.
Second: It's 4AM, I'm going to sleep, though even being 4AM and writing this comment at 3:30, I'd like to note I still have easily legible text. I mean it's hard to argue you at times because I have to read the statement not once, not twice, but three or more times to figure out what you said. I mean... man.
4640242 No one ever wants to resort to nuclear deterrents?!
You don't know much about humanity, do you?
4640386 i have never used a gag as an example. cheerilee breaking down a door is not really a gag, and i do not take bigmac literally draggin a house as an example. however applejack's ability ot uproot trees and maud pie's rock crushing strength, not to mention the indicaton that pinkie pie was trying to crush the rock that trapped her likely only failed because of a bad angle, not to mention the fact a writer of the show and the show itself confirmed it, they ahve greatly nehanced strength sourced to their magic. without use of sufficient tools as well.
it seems largely that statement has been retconned to a point. cause rarity has shown teleportation, the aiblity to fix objects, when ultimately her only skill should be, by that logic, tracking gems. if they are as limited as that they would not have a freaking hogwarts to begin with. they have ap reference to magic related to their marks but they re far from solely limited to it. we have SEEN it ourselves. most unicorns would be incapable of magic able to somewhat reverse discord's chaos, but it dose not mean they would be incapable of magic to harm an enemy.
with technology........ there is no way to counter magic. what would they create? a magic jhamming field? how would that possibly work? what would they use to make it? they would have to rely on magic, and humans are incapable of magic.
or maybe i should say that the magic hsown in mlp is not something that can be countered because, by its nature, it seems that they have a science to it. they do teach legitimate science it seems and, if i can at least delve into an actual headcanon, they use science to help them better screw over reality. they understand how something works to better manipulate it. thus there is no method one can use to counter it because it is designed to work with how the universe works even when it is making einstein cry.
even if humans could figure out how they do it, how would the replicate it or create a device able to prevent it? and even then that is only one facet of their magic.
Alright, guys, if you want to keep arguing, move it to a conversation thread or keep PM-ing each other or what the hell ever. Just please stop clogging up the comments of this story with it. Any future comments on the subject will be deleted from this point.
K?
K.
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But- But- I wanted to see this shitstorm of a comment war evolve into a shit-hurricane of a comment war!
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But all sarcasm and nonsense aside there is no way in hell that this little trade off is going to go smoothly. Sure Celestia seems all for it, but I have a feeling that some other foreign powers are going to catch whiff of this and crash this little get together with or without Celestia's approval.
Yay! I finally got to read the chapter!!!
Sorry for the wait, but I was busy!!!
...what happened to the comment section, or is it best not to ask...?
4640881 This is for the best no matter how much evidence is used that is backed by cannon lordofmyth wilo keep spaming is antihuman shit.
4665781 Antihuman vs Prohuman.
4639953 Why are you talking aboot helo here?
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Good enough. Thank you good sir.
4677080 Dude did you even fucking read whats it connected to?
anyways it was a few fucking days ago drop it like Card Holder said