Why Do we fight (fixed)
Why do we fight?
It's over.
The fighting, the struggling, the bloodshed. It was all finished.
I was balancing over a pool of purple conversion liquid, my legs and my arms on the outside keeping me from touching it. I was struggling with all my power to stay supported and I feel a heavy gravitational weight attempt to force me into the puddle.With difficulty I force my head to the left to see a lavender unicorn's horn glow with a weird distortion.
Gravity was now heavy in this one particular spot for the air was visibly moving to the ground. Ponies all gathered around us, Pegasi, Unicorn and earth ponies of all ages gathered with Potions ready to throw it at their former human.
"W- wait!" I cry. "Don't I get any last words? I am the last human after all, don't I deserve that at least?"
Twilight looked at her friends who were in the gathering of ponies, they shrug in confusion.
"Mr. human" Twilight started. "I don't understand you at all. We're not killing you, these next words to leave your mouth are not going to be your last but instead the first of many as a brand new pony! Don't you want that? Don't you want to be free of your cursed body, and to be released of your burden as a human. Humans are bad. but you, as a spirit, as an entity are not.
If we thought that humans couldn't be purified then we WOULD have just killed you all off, but we want to spare you of that fate. Every living thing deserves a second chance, since its not your fault you were born a human its not your fault that you are dirty, primitive, barbaric, Bloodthirsty and trigger happy. Becoming a pony will purge all those aspects of you and bring out your true meaning. I've seen murderers become happy chefs who make delicious food. and prostitutes become working mares. You can be better than you are now!"
"But I won't be who I am now, not even close. A new pony yes, maybe a little too new.
Twilight, haven't you noticed how all these ponies around you except your friends look a little... brainwashed?"
Twilight and I examine the audience's big grins and wide eyes."I haven't heard any of these ponies say anything other than "Join us" or "You'll be happier" all the time.
To settle my theory I sacrifice one of my supporting arms and direct it some a mare in the audience, she drags herself forward. "Young mare, about the weather Say something," I command.
I notice she was struggling to produce words in her mouth, probably due to fear or incapability. "Y-y-you'll be better off this way" She finally produces.
"See, she couldn't even tell me the weather. Say something else. " I command again.
"Something else." She recites.
I look over to twilight whose mouth is now agape in shock. Twilight turns to the mare and attempts to get a clear answer for her.
"Ms. Bloss Flower, how is the weather?"
I notice something tick in her as she twitched when the answer was sent to her.
"Oh its marvellous, don't you agree? The flowers growing and the sun is shining. Good for my flowers"
Twilight was now shocked and from the looks of it, scared.The weather was not alright outside. thunder boomed behind the trees and rain created mud in the deserted corn field we were now occupying.
"Its seems they're only brainwashed when communicating with humans, can that really be hypnotism?" I ask myself quietly."Dammit" I look below me to see that the potion was not going to be washed away by the rain.
"Ok, maybe that is kind of weird. Perhaps Princess Celestia has a solution for that. Is that your only reason to resist us? A couple mind-scrambled ponies? I just don't understand why you fight. I just don't understand why you fight.” Did she honestly just ask that? This has gone a breaking point and she doesn't even know the half of it.
"Why do we fight? WHY DO WE FUCKING FIGHT? DID YOU JUST ASK ME THAT?" Despite my current crab walk position I still demonstrated a threat. Twilight was taken back by my anger and tried to use it against me.
"See, this is what I'm talking about!" she counters "This anger, this profanity will all be gone. Just give up"
"Twilight, don't give me that. you cannot tell me that Ponies are incapable of profanity, that they're incapable of feeling negative emotions. are you honestly telling me this?" I ask, feeling a little more calm now.
"Well, no. Ponies swear and get angry and fight as well." Twilight admits.
"So ponies fight and swear and from what I've heard they have had wars too and yet you come to our race forcing conversion and telling us its because we fight and swear and have wars?" I say, trying to prove my point.
"Well... Um, its not that simple" Twilight stumbles on her works, probably realizing what I'm getting at.
Now its time to settle my case. "You ponies have attacked our race, stuffing purple bottles down out throats claiming its for purification, but purification into what? You can't purify something when you are just as contaminated You can't purge us of our profanity when you swear yourself and you can't stop our fighting if you are just as violent. Our wars are all for purposes some a little more stupid than others. Some, the ones that matter, the ones that have forged our country are the ones that people look up to.”
“I don't know what lies your princess has been telling you. Humans don't enjoy fighting and controversy, we don't fight because we're happy or because we're stubborn. we fight to protect and preserve. All of the wars we have had before you arrived, hundreds of years of bloodshed. those were not because we enjoy killing our fellow human its because we have to kill our fellow human for the safety of others and for the tranquility and harmony of this world." I take a dramatic gasp for air “But that was then and this is now.”
"Now, we try to avoid warfare as much as possible. we try to stay at peace." I know this is a flat out lie. but its all I can do right now. Twilight looked confused and I could tell she is working her brain a mile a minute."What's wrong Twilight? Didn't read in on this? Am I showing you a totally new side of humanity you ignorantly dismissed?" I respond cockily.
"N-no. I have read about your wars but I never learned why? why it was that your race fought." Twilight dismissed her spell. allowing me to get up."You're not going anywhere, I just figured that position may be a little awkward for a biped" Twilight clarifies. I obey and wait for another questions. after a minute or two when it became clear there was not going to be another question any time soon I took the chance to demonstrate another verbal attack.
"I am not trying to justify all humans violent behavior. In most situations killing could be avoided but sometimes there's no other option other than death. when you're being shot at it would be kind of hard to give them a flower and ask for peace."Twilight was looking down in a mud puddle in front of her but I could still see a smirk develop on her face.The brainwashed ponies still stood in a circle around us, rain water dripping on their wide eye expressions and drizzling into their creepy grinned mouths.
After some silence a blue mare with a rainbow mane approaches. "Ok, Ok I understand the fighting and why its is happening but here's a question: Why does it start? Being a pony you would know how to stop a fight, much less a war before it even occurs."
"This must be the cocky pony rainbow dash, I'm going to need a new approach at this...." I think to myself. "Well if you were human you would know that too. we don't fight with just any human. I have heard about you ponies having a little skirmish with another race of ponies, what were they? changelings? Lets not forget you ponies fought the griffons about 400 years ago. unlike Twilight, I did my studying."
"Alright smart guy." Dash said now snout to nose with me. "If you know that much then you should know why we had to fight."
"I do." I said bluntly
"You ponies fought the changelings and the griffons because they threatened the peace and tranquility of you and. Everything was fine before they showed up, am I right? "Dash stammered to make a comeback, she knew what I was getting at."We are not very different, you a I-" I say
"But why do you resist us, Is being a pony so bad" A white unicorn with a purple mane asks, stepping forward.
I sigh and look up at the cloud ridden sky "Its not about being a pony, don't get me wrong, being a pony would be fun. I always wanted to be a unicorn. but its more complicated. Right now I'm speaking for all of humanity. Humans have a habit of not liking people or in this case, ponies telling them what to do or forcing them to do something or become something against their will."I look down from the sky and back at the unicorn."Everything was fine when you were here and not forcing ponification. humans and ponies could have co-existed and everything would be fine but then you started ‘helping’ us”
"But we are helping you!" Twilight snaps.
"Its not much help if its being refused. and its no longer help if its being forced." I counter."We are not all children we are capable of making our own choices, if we don't choose to be ponies then we shouldn't be forced too. Who knows ? if none of this happened I probably would have went into a bureau of my own will and got converted and then we wouldn't be having this conversation but now, now you ponies have created a war.... something you have been trying to prevent."
"But that doesn't make it right to resort to violence. Think of how many lives both pony and human were lost! and that's no fun at all." a pink pony said now joining in the conversation.
“You may be right, violence is usually not the answer to everything. but what choice do we have? you threatened our way of life, our culture, even our entire existence! For all we know fifty years from now humans existence will start to fade from the world. first history books, then inventions, city names are already being changed due to the barrier and in a hundred or so years humans are going to be nothing more than a myth, a fairy tale. There was never a bipedal race that ruled the world before it was and always has been ponies.Sometimes I wonder if you ponies were even planning on ‘helping’ or "expanding" your population.” There was silence. I knew I got the ponies wrapped around my fingers now to settle this. "Let me ask YOU something now." I start, not expecting a reply I continued. "How would you feel if this was the other way around. Human came to Equestria building buildings the would convert ponies to humans?"
Twilight was about to answer when I cut her off
"Then in four years, Just four.twenty percent of your race was now walking on twos and wearing clothes and eating meat. Jobs will start collapsing when bosses and superiors will stop hiring ponies. Who wants a pony when you can have a fellow human? How would you feel when you precious princess and ruler becomes a human, how will you cope with that. not only that but this race of humans who just appeared no more than seven years ago now begin to use force. turning ponies into humans against their will because they think they are better than you. You can't fight because your military is too small now. and the population scale is unbalanced in your favor and not theirs? when you are the last pony in a new human world, Twilight Sparkle what would you do?”
Twilight looked up at me, she was now crying, her lower lip trembling. "I- i'm sorry" Twilight stammered
"Sorry? Sorry doesn't save the human race." I said. With that I got up and walked away, parting the ponies who were once surrounding me, they didn't speak, or look or even try to stop me as my Silhouette faded into the rain's mist.
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This needs editing. Spelling is OK, usage and mechanics are *not*.
In my opinion, this story would work better with Twilight as the narrator or viewpoint character, so that you could show us Twilight's opinions and feelings as the protagonist's speech changes them.
Well, the grammer needs work and the ending, while good, is slightly anti-climatic, but other than that, it's good. Still, I wish you would continue, it would be interesting to see the effects of the conversation linger on Twilight.
Eh it was ok but it didnt feel like you were telling a story with this and the ending was pretty boring so not going to vote.
not bad
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Eh, it was my first time making a tragic/sad story much less a conversion bureau story. i simply wanted to say what came to mind and what i would say if i was in that situation
sorry your right, not much of a story and for that i respect your choice not to vote
In my own nonprofessional opinion, I think you did very well. Just a few spelling and grammar mistakes here and there.
woah so many likes so quick, think this is gonna get featured? or am i dreaming to far in
Loved this! Fantastic!
Cheers!
The grammar needs work and some of the mechanics are a bit awkward.
Ending was a bit anticlimactic.
Other than that, it was pretty good. The "Not So Different Speech" was pretty well done to. And the demonstration of how freaky the newfoals are was perfect.
- *It's
- Missing verb.
- Lavender Unicorn isn't a proper verb, so it doesn't need to be capitalized.
- You need a comma at the end of "Human".
- That "S" in "Started" shouldn't be capitalized.
- *an
- That period needs to be a comma.
- Improper capitalization.
- Improper capitalization, and the period needs to be a comma.
- Capitalize names.
- *whose
- Capitalize the first word of your sentence.
- Forgive my flippant remark at this point, but is your shift key broken?
- *I've
- That period needs to be a comma.
- *You can't
Go here and look up self-editing tips. In the mean time, have this...
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Remember Bill Cosby's words: "There is no work that is undignified so long as you do it well."
The weather question was a good touch.
A concise message. Not bad, but not great. I like TCB stories, and this is the kind I like, but this felt rushed. Still, you can get a lot of follwers with this kind of writing if you edit a bit more.
Good, now go back and proofread the thing and you might get one more like.
I know you're not asking for a review, but I could give you some thoughts anyway.
On substance: The weather question, on its own, was clearly the best bit of this story. Otherwise the ponies' motivations and earlier actions seem unfathomably crazy, as far as I can tell. Some of the fic, more or less, makes for this week's "Humans Aren't Bastards -monologue". Really, those come up a couple of times per month.
On method: Others have already pointed out the need for some edits.
On meaning: The moral of the story seems to be "Do your research; don't start fixing bad into worse". I like the Conversion Bureau concept and the themes that can be explored within, but I'm not really sure how the theme here fits that concept.
I hope I've managed to give some food for thought.
I'll consider reading this at some point, though I might wait to see if it gets edited at all first.
I have fixed the "obvious" errors that Reginald1648 has uprooted for me.
I also found some of my own that i fixed. so overall there should be little to no more errors left
but who am i kidding i not perceptive enough to pick up on my own errors. so if you guys find anymore mistakes. telling me would be much
appreciated.
for people who say the ending was anticlimactic and boring I feel in the writing mood and may create a "bad end" version of this story or maybe a "difficult end"
Hint hint: Two angry princesses + being surrounded by brainwashed ponies + a sorry unicorn = what?
I personally don't think that you should do an alternate ending. This gets the message across and leaves the reader with a solemn feeling. Now, the only things we are left to wonder is what will Twilight Sparkle's life be like now that she has seen the error of her ways, and what will become of the last human?
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-_Ƣ ~ Good show.
Human pulls out nuke: "see you in hell bitches"
I wonder if it's possible to 'fix' the conversion and restore the victims? Twilight and the rest trying could be a decent sequel.
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Sounds like a far shot
There is a bunch of Anti-conver stories where the PER creates a Anti-pone suit thats immune to the effects or makes a Humanification potion turning newfoals and natives into humans again or for the first time/
What I would really like to see made (Not doing it myself) is a reverse story where humans invade equestria and turn ponies into humans. that would be pretty sweet
I love the title image that you used. I have an updated version right here: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/137/a/1/the_conversion_bureau_whe___un_ihsa_hlf_flag_by_cshadd-d65m1cn.png.
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Oooh nice, can I use that for mine?
2620518 Sure...
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Thanks, Also, big fan of your Cb story. really well done
Capital Letters...
Missing paragraph indentations
With difficulty I forced my head Missing space before With, and force was in the wrong tense.
Gravity was now
heavyfar stronger in this one particular spot, with thefor theairwasvisibly moving toward the ground More of a word choice kind of writing style edit. Nothing wrong exactly, but a bit awkwardPonies all gathered around us: Pegasi, Unicorn and Earth ponies of all ages,
gathered with Potionsready to throw it at the human Former human means he's already been converted.Twilight looked at her friends
who werein thegatheringcongregation of ponies,theywho shrugged in confusion. Repetition of gathering, tenses, etc."Mr. human" Twilight started, "I don't understand you at all. We're not killing you, these next words to leave your mouth are not going to be your last, but
insteadthe first of many as a brand new pony! Don't you want that? Don't you want to be free of your cursed body, and to be released of your burden as a human? Humans are bad. but you, as a spirit, as an entity, are not.If we thought that humans couldn't be purified then we WOULD have just killed you all off, but we wanted to spare you of that fate. Every living thing deserves a second chance.
sinceIt's not your fault you were born a human, it's not your fault that you are dirty, primitive, barbaric, bloodthirsty and trigger happy. Becoming a pony will purge all those aspects of you and bring out your true meaning.Twilight and I examined the audience's
theory I sacrificed one
Young mare, Say something about the weather
Say somethingcommanded.
etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc.
Then the last human on earth uses his singularness to track down what transforms humans to ponies and sticks it into nuclear missiles, hoping it doesn't cause everything to crap out, in place of the nuclear warheads. He ignores the radiation poisoning because, who cares? He then launches the nukes by tricking a pony into using magic to "find out how to make the *fireworks* shoot" on the computers to link them together and make them go off at once.
He dies of radiation poisoning BUT! Humanity has been changed back and wreaks a bloody toll on the ponies. Through the use of unmodified Nukes.
Yes, he doesn't know how nuclear missiles work, but desperation breeds a lot of "don't care, gonna do it anyway" kind of mentality.
Humanity wtf wins big time.
THE. END!
He could point out that said spirit is called the HUMAN spirit. Therefore, if the human spirit is good, then humans are good. Which means ponies are bad do to their choices. Humans do bad things when it is NECESSARY. The ponies in the conversion bureau do bad things because they CHOOSE to.
Also, Twilight and those other ponies around him may start a reverse conversion saying that those humans who were changed need to attend for an "update" or something.
Of course, unknown to Twilight and her co-conspirators, those newly re-humanized humans would proceed to exterminate every last Equestrian pony in existence. And when a human exterminates, it does not mean "convert". It means butcher.
Sucks for her. Oh well, who cares. They earned it. After all, the only reason the conversion worked to turn them into ponies is because most of them actively chose to partake. If humanity had fought in the first place the ponies would have been wiped out with hilarious ease. Also, their weapons, tools, and equipment are still intact and present, just not being used by the ponies (who can't).
HAHA!
Awesome!
Sit back and let me tell you my ending, very simple actually. Search all of America for the codes to luanch all of the nukes and fire them at equestria when they drop the shield thinking all of the humans have died, actually I would set a timer then walk up to the capital after the shields have dropped then asked to speak to Celestia, right before all of the nukes explode on Canterlot I would yell "HAVE FUN IN HELL BITCH, AMERICA FUCK YEA!!!!"
Says the "scientist" that thinks her country's rulers are gods and raise the Celestial bodies.
4678605 well, when you think about it, they genuinely do seem to move them. They completely stopped when Celestia and Luna vanished... though if I were her, I'd question the fact that it is known that unicorns USED to raise the sun and moon, but now only the Sisters know how. Sounds like they're trying to effectively neuter their subjects' freedom. These are the people who can destroy the world if you pill them off. With our governments, it's different. It takes a LOT of us to use enough atomic weapons to destroy the planet and all life on it. Just takes two with the sisters. And yet, she hasn't questioned it in the slightest.
4915764 Hmm.
4916053 of course, it's indirect, but still.
4916131 I hear you.
4916149 I like to think of them being more like alarm clocks than actually doing the deed. The spell is basically shouting "Yo, SUN! Get yur fat ass up and start makein shit grow!" into the sky. It would explain why she was so weak when fighting Chrysalis.
4916414 "Sun, stop trying to fooken kill all plant life on the planet!"
4917758 yes.
4934859 Heh.
4936052 banana.
4968902 Ok......
This story is STILL getting Likes? I guess I should do something in regards to this story's popularity... Perhaps a sequel?
5225074 If you do a sequel, actually make it more than 2,000 words of freaking lecturing. I was actually pretty bored reading this. Seriously, the dude is lecturing them while crabwalking over potion, fighting being pushed into it, and yet he has the lung power to lecture them?!
Also, if you do make a sequal, I fucking challenge you do break the mold of every other ATCB and make it someone else's fault than Celestia that all this went down. I've honestly never seen anyone actually do that.
5225579
I'm already working on the sequel. without spoiling too much I'll tell you that the story is centered around twilight and how she takes what happened in this story. Celestia will be the natural antagonist along with several other ponies as minor or side antagonists. Rest assured I will try to stir it up a little different than most other Conversion bureau stories.
5225624 The moment you mentioned Celestia was the main antagonist, any hope I had withered away. It's been done so many times it's not even funny. I've never seen Luna or Cadance or even fucking Sombra and Discord take the blame for causing the slaughter. Even worse is a fucking alicorn OC is more than welcome here because every ATCB that uses Celestia as antagonist has her so far out of character it might as well be an OC. Let me guess you were going to play Twilight as in character when she wasn't for most of this story?
I'm willing to bet Celestia's reasons are stupidly flawed and have holes big enough to thread the sun through. Also willing to bet the human character from this shows up for a boring as hell "reason you suck" speech. If there is some malevolent being controlling Celestia, that too has been done.
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You are pointing off many diffenet clichés im not going to be using. I've read a fair amount of CB stories and i'm planning on evading a lot of clichés i've seen in a lot of them.
As for twilight im pretty sure after what happened in this story, shes definetly not going to be the same
5226579 But you are going with Celestia being a villain just like every other ATCB out there so what's really going to set this story apart? Twilight turning on her mentor because of a single argument by a human has been done before as well.
5225699
B-b-but celestia is my waifu~!!!
More seriously, people like to write stories about good turning bad. Celestia is the paragon of all that is good and righteous for ponies. Maybe she secretly pays crime rings just to have her Royal Guards hunt them down later, therefore looking righteous for having caught an evildoer. Maybe she has to cast an entire other race as evil for the purpose of appearing (to her ponies) to be on the good side, still. Or maybe she tries to investigate a mysterious artifact to keep pre-alicorn Twilight safe, and accidentally got corrupted, or was hit while her guard was down, or any number of things.
Villains (Sombra, Discord, etc) are harder to write. They're attacking, say, Appaloosa, why? Appaloosa has maybe a good apple farm, and all the villains were already beaten in canon so they already know the ponies have at least one weapon to use against them. Chrysalis got loved to death, Discord got rainbow'd, NMM got rainbow'd, Sombra got energized to death. It's not hard to see the villains either need to do something the artist wouldn't know how to write or be so out of character or overpowered you'd have Mary Sues running all over the place just to justify the main villain not being rainbow'd to death yet.
5227775 Even if I had a waifu (and I utterly loathe that term) it wouldn't be a pony. I like MLP but not that much.
Or maybe too many bronies can't make an actual compelling villain and thus resort to making a pre-existing good character evil because reasons. Seriously, it's been done so many times it's not even funny. With ATCB, every single fucking one has Celestia as an antagonist and why?
Well for the first few ATCBs, it was an immature reaction to Chatoyence's admittedly hyper self-righteous Celestia. Many didn't stoop to insulting her as did many others, but they basically decided to take it out on Celestia who was Chatoyence's mouthpiece a lot of the time. Since that's calmed down, now most authors do it because following the leader is an excellent way to break out into writing. It's lazy as hell.
Um, no. No, they are not. If anyone puts even the slightest amount of thought into it, they can write a villain. Hell, villains are often the most fun to write.
That made no sense whatsoever. Basic pattern recognition would help a lot of these villains. Hell, not stopping to laugh triumphantly at their enemies supposed defeat, would have helped three of them. Sombra's only sin was being a little too slow. And the Elements have a blatantly weakness in that they need all the elements present to work. Aside from that, do not assume people can't write an effective villain and not fall into these traps because they can and do! Fimfic is filled with stories that make the villains competent enough not to act like a moron.
This bit right here:
This is idiotic, frankly. All the villains have to do is show a little awareness to avoid the big rainbow. This doesn't mean they get powers they didn't have previously, it means the heroes will actually have to work at taking the bad guy down and not having to rely on the overly convenient fix all maguffin to do it! Having a functional brain does not a Mary Sue make, that is something else entirely.
5230223 This is starting to be less about the fic itself and more about an argument. Let's stop.