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“If the youth are not initiated into the tribe, they will burn down the village, just to feel its warmth.” — African proverb

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Three hundred years ago, Equestria almost invaded the peaceful and idyllic nation of Cavallia, the homeland of Princess Mi Amore Cadenza.

The invasion would have been accidental.

It was quite awkward.

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More Cadence :yay: and I'm guessing the stair cough :pinkiehappy:
... now to actually read it :twilightsheepish:
I loved the description of Roam not to long to be boring but painting a lovely image, I love the idea of aqueduct's spreading throughout the city.

Huh...it's been approved already...that was less than a fifteen minute wait.

Score, I guess.

Stories seem to be being approved almost instantaneously... Is anyone complaining?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

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This Candence is absolutely, brilliantly filled with possibilities. Please bring her out again.

Enjoyable. Thanks for the quick read.

In keeping with your author's note, that was fun. It does show that you didn't add very much to what you already outlined here and there in your existing corpus, but it was a pleasant, light read. For my part, I wish you had done a little more with it, in all content, composition, and prose, but - really - I can't complain.

"Most have seen too many winters... or too few." ... I see what you did there :trixieshiftright:

The description of the city and design for Cadenza's tower along with the natural rainbow was incredible! Also I liked that Cadence and her country are largely not afraid of the sun, it's good world building in Equestria but nice to see it subverted elsewhere.

Interesting and amusing introduction with Sirocco and "the talk" Very interesting and heartfelt the talk was (channeling yoda there? Nice to hear about her other husbands and wife :scootangel: I liked his response to the talk, very poetic.

Oh Cadence you shouldn't challenge the universe for it is spiteful and loves toying with happy moments :rainbowlaugh:

I thought Cadence knew Luna washer mother at this point? love her terrified "gone mad" moment. Interesting idea with immortals "naturally going mad/suddenly snapping and an understandable"

I like Cadence's take on the Eqauestrian language. The conversation between her and the captain was incredibly tense and well done, though if it was just a god/demi god with a weak army vs just a strong army hmm maybe Cadence could pull out a win or just make a shield.
Interesting to learn more about the griffons and Coronas fall. I liked her speech, and her thoughts surrounding it. (A small part of me really wanted to see Cadence threaten t go Corona 2 electric boogaloo on the army if they tried to cross the border,) course I understand why that would be OOC and not help the situation. Plus I wanted to write corona 2 electric boogaloo. :twilightblush: Like Cadenzas reflection on her vs Lunas power and deciding to do the diplomatic thing, her fears for her country were well communicated. Her speech was EPIC I felt the description was a little wooden though, sorry.

Loved her response to be called a vassal, the enter meeting scene and all the yelling was highly amusing :rainbowlaugh: The Zaldian response and confusion was also great. The ambassadors claiming :we have an alicorn now too" was great as was Quick fix hiding in the cellar and Cadence's reaction I couldn't stop laughing myself :rainbowlaugh: I loved the little scene with the wine and Cadence reflecting on it's age and the changes over time.

The ending had great imagery, Luna and Cadence drinking wine and Luna almost breaking down over a balcony, the sorry, sorry, sorry bit really stood out to me, the line about love enough to drown the sun and warm the moon, was so poetic and lovely! :fluttercry:

So yeah it's safe to say I loved this fic! :pinkiehappy:
Also it's your writing that has made Cadence one of my most favorite character ever, just so you know that.

I like Cadence's take on the Eqauestrian language.

I assume that Equestrian is identical to English. That being the case:

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." - James D. Nicoll

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I use that quote all the time! or at least a slightly altered version. :scootangel:

Oh man, that was delightful :D I loved opening with Roam and it's aqueducts, cause, really, what else have the Roamans given us?

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I like writing for immortals and other long-lived beings. Cadance in particular is interesting to write for. She knows that just about everypony she ever knows will grow old, wither, and die, and that hurts, but she doesn't let that get her down, because she also knows that she will always be meeting new ponies, making new friends, finding new love. She is immortal, and by carrying the memories of lovers in her heart, she makes them a little immortal as well.

It's...an alien, yet heartwarming, worldview. Most of us think of "true love" in terms of "one person you'll want to be with forever." Cadance can't ever have that, but then, she doesn't seem to define "true love" like that, either. But she does believe that she finds true love again and again over the centuries.

She's the ultimate optimist, basically. We could all stand to be a little more like Mi Amore Cadenza.

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Well, not a lot, though the Romans have given the Western world quite a bit more than they're generally given credit for...

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I... can't tell if we're delving into sarcasm-ception or not... Life of Brian?

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I dunno. It's 3:11 AM where I am. Tired.

Gonna sleep now. Yes.

Really enjoyed this story. I like how you were able to combine Cadenza's sweetness and love, with the tension of the military scene, with the comedy once we get to Canterlot. I think that Luna/Cadence make a very cute couple. And I loved the final bit about Cadenza telling Luna to just install stairs in her office already.


One worldbuilding question -- how legitimate are the various claims of the ambassadors about Luna being the de facto ruler of the continent, who annexed Latigo illegitimately/is pushing on Zaltia's boundaries/etc? (I thought they were illegitimate at first, but then Luna was all, 'yes, Pferdreich has a real complaint, but whatever, I'll outlive them and don't need to actually bother with placating them, screw them.') Is Equestria really that expansionist, or are the ambassadors overreacting? Would Luna/Luna's army be able to basically roll over all opposition if she decided one day that she felt like taking over the world, or are there other entitites/armies that could challenge her?

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At this point in history, I think Equestria is functionally the unchallenged master of the continent. This doesn't necessarily hold true 300 years later in the main Lunaverse time period, however, nor for the full 700 years preceding. Further, while I think that if it came down to it, Equestria could triumph over every one of its neighbors at this time, it would not leave such a war in a particularly good condition.

Latigo was mentioned in "An Early Reunion" as being a decaying nation, though the reason for its collapse isn't outlined. I think that at some point in the intervening 700 years between then and now, Latigo was annexed by Equestria for its own good, probably to stabilize the region, and possibly to prevent the griffins from expanding southward into the area, which would allow them to threaten the protected city-states of Hippopotamia. Apparently the Starlights moved up in the world at this time as well, becoming the viceroys of Latigo. As to how legitimate it was, that can be left up the air (though the fact that it was annexed outright instead of turned into an exarchy suggests that it was no longer viable as an independent state anyway). In general, though, I don't think Luna is afraid to go to war if the benefits to Equestria outweigh the risks, and she certainly doesn't restrict herself to defensive wars.

The Zaldians I just see as fiercely independent and with a few unresolved issues with the Zaldian-Cavallian border due to ancient feudal claims, etc. Since Equestria and Cavallia are on such good terms, the Zaldians are always worried that at any point the Equestrians might help the Cavallians march in and take over the whole place, or at least the parts of Zaldia which the Cavallians sort-of see as "rightfully theirs." At this time, the matter was supposed to be nearly settled, but an army materializing on the Zaldian border shook things up: that's what Luna's apologizing to Cadance for (even though it's not Luna's fault).

As to Pferdreich, Luna's comment there was actually supposed to be "I forget what I had to do to placate the Pferdreichers, but I remember that they were pretty reasonable, and because they're a democracy this whole thing will blow over much faster anyway." If democracy can be said to have any one flaw, it's that it's fickle.

The way I picture Luna's Equestria was that it was expansionist to a point. Luna set out, once she'd settled in to being the monarch of Equestria rather than a diarch, to give Equestria certain natural defensive borders, access to certain natural resources and fertile areas, etc. She probably didn't just invade and conquer places for no reason, as much as just was sure to always jump at any opportunity to acquire what Equestria needed. Civil war in the Griffin Kingdoms? Offer support to one side! As long as they give up claims to land south of [X]. That kind of thing.

Having established an Equestria that was a size she was comfortable with, however, she turned instead to meddling in the affairs of other nations, setting up and supporting friendly regimes (as in Cavallia an the Crystal Empire) and toppling unfriendly ones, until Equestria was surrounded by a layer of allies that could serve as a buffer against any outside threat, but which would not have to themselves be supported out of the Equestrian coffers. These are the various exarchies.

Will read later but I get a weired ace combat vibe from the description.

Cavallia Air Force Base probably?

That was a hell of a lot of fun! Seeing Cadence have a very plausible explanation and being ready to defend her kingdom was truly a great read. Wasn't the deepest or most emotionally moving be, except for the last bit which sadly really could've gone longer, but overall wonderfully fun story. Thanks very much for sharing!

This is a great story, and if I could judge it simply on it's own merits, I would absolutely adore it. But the fact that Cadence is Luna's daughter here just keeps ruining it for me. It just doesn't make sense. If her age were slightly more ambiguous on the show, your depiction of her as such would be... well I wouldn't like it much, but I'd be able to move past it. But as it stands, in the episode where she was introduced, Cadence was shown to be significantly younger when Twilight was still a filly. If she was really hundreds of years old, Twilight's flashback to her would have shown her appearance to be largely the same as it currently is. This is just not the case. He face was rounder, her eyes were proportionately slightly larger, and her body and legs were much shorter than they are now. There's just no way it makes sense that she could be the same Cadence you depict here.

Sorry, I must sound really whiny to you. It just... bugs me, I guess. But like I said, ignoring my personal gripe with Luna being Cadence's mother, this story was just excellent!

Also, since you mentioned them, how are you handling the Crystal Empire? Luna said she put them in the DMZ between Equestria and the Griffons. Won't that come back to bite her when they finally return from... wherever it is that they disappeared to when Sombra was sealed away?

I've read way to many depressing story's recently so it's always great to read something that make me giggle

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Once more you blow my mind with the exhaustive detail you put into worldbuilding that we'll never see outside the commentary. It may sound superfluous at first, but it shows in the main story by just making all these side glances very, very coherent, and they come to life all the better for it.

Okay, this thing was...hilarious. Just...damn, was it funny. I also loved how you used Cadance here; she's definitely grown since "An Early Reunion." And yes, Luna definitely deserved a big drink after this lovely debacle.

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This is a great story, and if I could judge it simply on it's own merits, I would absolutely adore it. But the fact that Cadence is Luna's daughter here just keeps ruining it for me. It just doesn't make sense. If her age were slightly more ambiguous on the show, your depiction of her as such would be... well I wouldn't like it much, but I'd be able to move past it. But as it stands, in the episode where she was introduced, Cadence was shown to be significantly younger when Twilight was still a filly. If she was really hundreds of years old, Twilight's flashback to her would have shown her appearance to be largely the same as it currently is. This is just not the case. He face was rounder, her eyes were proportionately slightly larger, and her body and legs were much shorter than they are now. There's just no way it makes sense that she could be the same Cadence you depict here.

The whole "Cadance is Luna's daughter" thing is a big sticking point for me, too. It just makes no sense whatsoever with the show, and in an AU which is just supposed to be the show's setting and characters spun a different way, it sticks out like a sore thumb. And then there's the whole explanation of her birth and...yeah, her origin story is pretty much a game killer. Still, she's used well here, so that's something.

Also, since you mentioned them, how are you handling the Crystal Empire?

The L!Crystal Empire was never banished. Celestia actually killed Sombra before he could do anything of the like because she's evil and awful and Luna is...

(This message was cut short when RainbowDoubleDash drove over to IAH's house, beat him over the head with a frying pan, tossed him into a burlap sack, loaded it into a cannon, and fired it into the sun. He was still decent enough to hit the enter key, though.)

1824757 Well... I suppose that puts paid to the idea that if Celestia ever IS cured of her madness, she'll be able to find acceptance among the crystal ponies. If the empire had vanished, they wouldn't have known about what happened, and so would have been more accepting of a restored Celestia. But if what you say is true, that obviously can't happen now.

But now this really calls Luna's decision to put the Empire in the DMZ into question. It's one thing to do that with an area of land that, to the best of your knowledge, may no longer have anyone living in it. It's quite another to do it with an area with a people in possession of a unique culture and history (I would say a sovereign nation, but I really have no idea if that's what the Crystal Empire is at this point).

Half-way through Quick Fix's name name came up and I thought to myself, "Oh, the stairs!" with a smile on my face.

Still smiling. Good work. :pinkiehappy:

You've covered a lot of ground with this story! We've seen Cadance's approach to romance before, but this was a very nice new bit about it. The way she feels about Sirocco is rather gorgeous. I really like the way Cadance dealt with Pine Needle, too - it really emphasised that nopony wanted a war. I also love the fact that the situation was mostly defused by Cadance laughing about it.

And finally, the fusion-blasted patch of Crystal Empire soil that used to be King Sombra has his revenge on Luna! She cannot escape the stairs!

I still like your Lunaverse writing.

Luna, start reviewing your official's applications. It would have been a better plan to just set the castle on fire to make his point. :rainbowlaugh: Ponies are so silly. On the less hysterical side of things, the part between Cadenza and her lover was beautiful. :raritystarry: You should write more stuff like that. :pinkiesmile:

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They gave us concrete. :ajsmug:

Applause! Raucous applause!
Love the descriptions of pseudo-Italian and the mention of pseudo-German. Well written and pretty damn funny to boot.
And o'course, nice take on immortal life and politics.
Sorry to be vague, but it is flamin' brilliant.

And Luna teleported away walked up the stairs without learning anything. :trollestia:

There was plenty of funny in this story, but my favorite parts are the description of Roam, and Cadenza's characterization. You can't help but love someone with such a strong, fundamentally mature yet idealistic take on love!

Also, I bet she will not do away with the door to her chambers. The occasional inconvenience can be lived with, I'm sure.

This was delightful. The way Cadenza thinks throughout is intriguing, beautiful, and entirely probable based on what we know of her. Roam sounds like a lovely city, and that whole situation... Good gods. It just seems like your average everyday Equestrian overreaction - Need the Princess out of her room? Start an international incident! Maybe it's something in the water there.
One little typo that caught my eye:

Luna matched it even as her horn glowed and began to magically refill itself. “Last one,” she promised, putting a hoof to her chest. “Last one. I swear.”

probably should be her horn glowed and the cup began to magically refill itself. But yeah. A beautiful story indeed.

1825002 Except she doesn't have stairs yet.

It actually took me a minute of "What's Luna doing here when she should be on the moon" before it all clicked and went "ahhh. Lunaverse." But as far as this story goes, I thought it was a great fic. Worldbuilding is something that I feel doesn't happen enough (or maybe I just don't read stories with it, idunno) and this covers several aspects: the origin of Cadence, several borders of Equestria, the rise and fall of positions of power (i.e. the majordomo) and how Luna got stairs to her room. If you keep writing fics like this, not necessarily comedy but to this quality, then you can consider me a new fan of your work. :twilightsmile:

There I was, thinking that the "Pastry War" was ridiculous, and then you appear with this. :rainbowlaugh:

Oh hell, I didn't know about the Lunaverse; I just thought it was a fun alternate-universe story and came back to look at the comments and see what else the author had done, and just a few clicks later I'm *trapped!*

I don't have time for this! <sob/> Help! I'm being sucked in!

So, is it odd that my favorite part is the one where Cadance considers banishing the door to her bedchamber? I find it especially ironic (or whatever the right term is) in light of the fact that this is also the story of how Luna's own bed chambers were made more accessible.

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That is a beautifully brutally honest assessment of the horrors of the English tongue.

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I largely agree with the stance that the show suggests Cadence is not nearly so old as RDD claims, however... In his defense we've seen on the show that Luna is able to freely shift her appearance, assuming a form identical to Nightmare Moon at will. It's not much of a stretch to assume that Cadance can similarly alter her appearance and so the flashbacks with Twilight where she is seemingly a teenager could just be a case of her taking a form appropriate to the task, or some such.

Until the show explicitly states one way or the other in regards to Cadance's age I don't find this to be a point of contention worth fussing over.

(This message was cut short when RainbowDoubleDash drove over to IAH's house, beat him over the head with a frying pan, tossed him into a burlap sack, loaded it into a cannon, and fired it into the sun. He was still decent enough to hit the enter key, though.)

I hope they have good internet connections on the sun. You've still got that Raindrops story to finish.

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the part between Cadenza and her lover was beautiful. You should write more stuff like that.

I agree. We've seen through Shining and Cartasole how Cadance approach the prelude to such relations, and now through Sirocco we've seen something of how such relations function after blossoming into full bloom. I think what I'd like to see now is a short story featuring the tail end of one of her romances, where her lover has grown old & frail while Cadance remains young & beautiful, and to to see the psychology involved at work as the looming inevitability of the end plays out. It doesn't have to go over into sad-fic territory by delving into the actual final days, funeral, or the aftermath of grieving; just to see them still embrace happiness together for as long as it can last would be enough.

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A friend of mine on this site, ADemonicPresence, explains her younger-looking appearance in ACW by imagining that Cadance is basically Pony Anastasia, as well as her being the princess mentioned in "Hearts and Hooves Day." Her kingdom was overrun by filthy commies changelings, and she put so much power into defending it that she actually regressed in both power and form.

That's one possible explanation. Another is that Cadance might be able to shape-shift, just like Luna, and so chose to appear younger, closer to Twilight's age, in order to endear herself more to the little foal she was foal-sitting.

And a third explanation...probably exists.

All I know is that, as I decided that in the Lunaverse, alicorns can't just be randomly born from ponies, that they were true physical gods, Cadance needed to be explained somehow.

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You cannot escape!

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Actually, "An Early Reunion" goes into Cadance's origins; this just kind of glances over them.

I do like world-building stories, yes.

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I agree. We've seen through Shining and Cartasole how Cadance approach the prelude to such relations, and now through Sirocco we've seen something of how such relations function after blossoming into full bloom. I think what I'd like to see now is a short story featuring the tail end of one of her romances, where her lover has grown old & frail while Cadance remains young & beautiful, and to to see the psychology involved at work as the looming inevitability of the end plays out. It doesn't have to go over into sad-fic territory by delving into the actual final days, funeral, or the aftermath of grieving; just to see them still embrace happiness together for as long as it can last would be enough.

Well, with Cartasole, anyway, it was most certainly basically this:

So in other news, Highlander is being remade. Ryan Reynolds is set to play Connor. I'm certain that he'll be a better sword-fighter than Christopher Lambert (to be fair, he was simply very nearsighted; all the actors playing against him were told to basically just react to his half-blind swings), but I seriously hope that if they re-make that scene then Reynolds can put the same emotion behind it.

And so, Luna learned that you should never think that you can get away from your problems by taking away the stairs. :rainbowwild:

And what have we learned?
That the answer to everything is to add stairs.

Toaster not working? Get some stairs.
Jerk you don't like? Get some stairs.
Fimfiction stories not updating fast enough? Get some stairs.

:trollestia:

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Oops, missed this. Here is my Map of the World, for the modern Lunaverse:

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As you can see, the Crystal Empire is a sovereign nation in the modern Lunaverse, though it is subordinate to Equestria (I view it as a friendly state, not an exarchy). The demilitarized zone is the pale green zone that lies between the Griffin Kingdoms and Equestria.

Latigo, incidentally is the large province in Equestria's northeast. Also, I imagine that the geography of this story is a little different from the geography of the modern Lunaverse

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It sure looked like Luna and Celestia canonically tred to kill Sombra, no great evil motive needed. The whole "sealed into the arctic" thing looked like a coda applied at the end when they realized that vaporizing him failed to be sufficiently lethal. It hardly seems that making Celestia eviller would have made Sombra less able to survive alicorn death rays.

This was lovely. An excellent combination of cute, tense and funny.

I loved "The Talk". I've been planning to have a flashback in a future fic in my series to Celestia giving a similar talk to Cadance and Shining Armor.

Modified by who's giving it, who's receiving it, the differences between your alicorns and my own and the fact that Cadance isn't just any alicorn, but the current alicorn of Venus.

1824662>>1824757 Cadance's age is something I also disagree with in the Lunaverse, but I'm willing to look past it. People have such wildly conflicting veiws on alicorns anyway. I've seen claims that Cadance is as old as love itself or older than the Universe. Technically, I do think that Cadance is over a hundred, but that just means that she's just hit adulthood. I don't even believe that alicorns are immortal. Just ridiculously powerful and long lived. In my own version of Equestria, Shining Armor is her first husband, but he won't be her last unless she is killed at a very young age for an alicorn.

I really like this Cadance theres alot you could do with this fanon version of her.

1824662>>1824757 And count me as another one who seriously finds that to be a raw sticking point for me as well. :ajbemused: On its own, with no knowledge of their relationship, virtually no flaws here. With that bit of knowledge I wish to punch Luna in the face with an iron gauntlet. Iron being magic-resistant and all. :flutterrage:

Luna... TELL HER NOW!!!!!

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Campbell: Snake, you can't do that! The future will be changed! You'll create a time paradox!

1825822 It's something that should be changed. :ajbemused:

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Don't fight against it! Read on, young traveler! The Scootaloo compels you!!!! Isn't that right Scootaloo?


:scootangel: Hell Yeah!

1825376 I think i this case you should just apply the KISS principle (keep it simply silly) and say, it's an AU, so it didn't happen like that. Cadence still ends up with Shinning, but she wasn't Twilight's sitter. The more isolated Twilight is, the more sense her being so crazy is.

Of course I'm only reading a fraction of the Lunaverse stories so maybe there is a good reason you can't do that, but I don't care about looking stupid so, whatever.

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