In the blink of an eye
Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy Glow shielded their eyes from the bright light upon stepping out of the tent. The dozens of spotlights set up several meters high on large metal poles lit up the entire camp. The trip witnessed hundreds of humans running about between hundreds of different tents.
There were several ponies visible as well, wearing shock collars just as they had. Unlike them, however, the imprisoned ponies were organized in lines with gun-wielding humans guarding them. In the distance, several hundred meters away, a tall metal fence surrounded the camp with even more guards patrolling the outskirts.
Almost all eyes turned onto the group as they made their way through the camp. A creature as large as Tirek certainly helped attract attention. While most of the humans stared at them with curiosity, the ponies had looks more akin to fear and confusion.
What caught the trio by surprise, however, is that the ponies actually had greater numbers, yet they weren't attempting to overpower their captors. It was the exact opposite actually, with the ponies looking defeated and having their will to fight completely sapped out of them.
"What happened to them..?" Cozy Glow whispered, though Major Abbott was still able to hear her.
"These are what remains of the Equestrian force that attacked us," he answered, "They came in the tens-of-thousands. And yet… these are all that’s left. We didn’t even suffer any casualties. It’s sad, really."
"Lies," Chrysalis stated simply.
"Pardon?" The major asked.
"You're lying,” the deposed changeling queen repeated. “You expect me to believe that you decimated an entire army, tens of thousands strong, without suffering a single casualty?"
"Just goes to show you what a likely centuries-wide technology gap can do," said Abbott.
"Even with all your technology, how could you possibly avoid any casualties?" Tirek asked.
“Quite simple, actually,” Abbot explained. “We used those bad boys over there.”
Abbot gestured to a small clearing between tents, where the trio saw the flying objects they had encountered earlier, though they were not in flight at this moment and appeared to be wired up to some kind of large box.
"Those are our drones,” Abbot elaborated. “We have a highly skilled force of pilots remotely operating them within Utopia itself.”
"What does 'remotely operated' mean exactly?" Cozy Glow asked.
"Geez, you really are primitive people, aren't you?" Abbott replied. “How do I put this? So, you know how unicorns can move things though the air with their horns? Replace “magic” with good ole electricity, and fill the thing up with guns up the wazoo, and you have a drone.”
As the group continued to make their way through the camp, a pattern was beginning to emerge. All of the imprisoned ponies were being segregated by subspecies. Earth ponies were with earth ponies and unicorns were with unicorns. Despite actively trying, Cozy Glow could not find a single Pegasus, prompting her to wonder if she was the only winged pony in the entire camp.
Soon enough, they made their way towards a particularly large tent.
“Wait here,” said Abbott before he entered the tent. He returned about a minute later.
"They're ready for you," he said, "No funny business, understood?"
They all boxed in response.
"Alright, go on in."
Upon stepping into the tent, the trio found a large round table, with ten chairs set around it. Seven of the chairs were occupied with humans of varying ethnicities all sitting beside each other in a row. The three closest chairs remained empty.
"Welcome," said a woman with a Chinese accent. “Please, have a seat," the woman gestured for the three empty chairs.
The trio silently sat down, and stared at the group ahead of them. All was still for a moment, as an awkward silence permeated the air, and the tension in the room rose.
"I sense a lot of tension in the air,” said PM Bjorn, breaking the silence. “The three of you need not worry, we aren't going to harm you.”
Chrysalis almost countered that with a “That’s rich,” but thought better of it. Whether she liked it or not, she did not have any leverage to work with at the moment, and she hated every second of it.
"Who are you?" Cozy Glow asked
"I don't believe we've met,” Alexei said. “We are the leaders of the last remaining nations of the human race.”
"Hold on, the last time we checked, wasn’t one of your leaders named Atticus?” Cozy Glow said.
"You would be correct,” Felix explained. “I have recently taken up the position for the time being," Felix explained.
"And why is that?" Tirek asked.
"Atticus made some… unwise decisions and that led to him being removed from power, or rather forced to resign," Felix replied.
“You all don’t seem like leaders to me,” Chrysalis was one step away from snarling.
"Excuse me?" King Osas asked.
"Your race is all brawn over brains,” Chrysalis explained. “It's what caused your race's downfall.”
"I have no idea where you heard that from, but I can assure you that is far from accurate,” Mateo explained. “While humanity does praise its strongest among them, the role of leader comes down more so to intelligence than anything.”
"So how exactly was your 'great species' reduced to this if you were so smart?" Chrysalis sarcastically asked.
"We can either keep talking about irrelevant topics or we can get down to business," said PM Jack impatiently.
"Fine," stated Tirek, "What do you want with us?"
"What we are asking of you is two-fold,” PM Bjorn explained. “One, we want Tirek to cure Eris of her radiation sickness. Two, we want to know how exactly you drained Discord of his “magic” and what it did to you. After you fulfill these tasks, you will no longer be considered prisoners and we may proceed with further discussion.”
Tirek thought for a moment. Obtaining the magic of a second draconequus… and she was about to be served up to him on a silver platter. He nearly started drooling just thinking about it, but he couldn’t, lest the humans realize how powerful chaos magic was and change their minds.
"Very well,” Tirek said. If it will lead to our release, I will comply.”
Chrysalis did not look all too enthused at the prospect of complying with the leaders’ requests. As for Cozy Glow, she was still trying to size up everyone at the table.
"Excellent!” Bjorn replied. “Now, if you don’t mind me asking, have you ever partially absorbed magic out of an individual?"
"Of course not!” Tirek asked. “If I absorb a creature’s magic, I make sure I get every last sliver of it.”
"Let me rephrase then," Bjorn asked. “Are you capable of partially absorbing magic out of an individual? If you are as powerful as you claim, then it should be no problem.”
"I don’t why one would do that, but I can if that is what’s required,” Tirek replied.
"Good, then you should have no trouble removing only five percent of the radiation in her system," stated Bjorn.
The centaur was hoping that comment did not mean what he thought it meant.
"If you thought that we were unaware of the abilities that a large dose of chaotic radiation provides an individual, then you are completely mistaken,” Bjorn explained.
It was exactly what he thought it meant.
“I’m afraid we cannot just allow you to run free with all of that chaotic radiation, Mr. Tirek,” Bjorn continued. “After some further study by Dr. Keifer, he has theorized that there must have been a certain point at which Eris’ body became strained due to overexposure to chaotic radiation. After further testing, we determined that the overexposure should be at around five percent. Any more than that and she likely would have perished already. So, you will remove only five percent of the radiation in her body, understood?"
Tirek pondered for a moment.
"No," he firmly refused. "If you want my help, I want all her magic. That's my price."
"I don't think you fully appreciate the gravity of the situation you're in, Mr. Tirek," said Alexi. "You're in no position to be making demands. There are other methods we could be employing right now to ensure your cooperation, but we are not doing that because we want to work with you.”
"I think you'll find that if we wanted to, we could easily force him," said Alexei.
"And what exactly are these “other methods?" Chrysalis asked.
Aladeen began to open his mouth.
“We’re not torturing him, Aladeen,” Felix immediately put the idea down.
That sentence took Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow by surprise. Humans have been known to rape and murder, sure, but they had never been known to resort to something as brutal as torture. The fact that it was so casually mentioned might have been the most disturbing part though.
“Felix is right, we’re not going to resort to that,” Bjorn agreed. “We need your help, and we believe that if you help us, we can give you something in return as well,” said Bjorn, going along with his plan.
Felix took it from there.
“While you were unconscious, we gathered some intelligence from the prisoners about your previous escapades,” Felix explained. “All three of you have attempted a coup on Equestria at least once, and each time you were stopped by the so-called Elements of Harmony. Luckily for you, should you comply, you won’t have to worry about them anymore…”
Chrysalis was hoping he didn’t say what he thought was going to say.
“…because we also have them in our custody.”
“Oh, come on!” Chrysalis asked.
“How?” Tirek asked.
“You… what!?” Cozy Glow asked.
“I’m sure you recall, Mr. Tirek, that you suggested that one Twilight Sparkle, one of the Elements, can assist us with our plight,” Bjorn asked.
“I wasn’t being serious!” Tirek exclaimed.
“Well, after you pulled your little disappearing act, Atticus ordered Twilight Sparkle to be retrieved,” Bjorn explained. “However, she does not have the same expertise in draining magic as you do. So, we want to ask you again.”
“Well, I can’t just do this for my freedom,” Tirek countered. “If I can’t have all of Eris’ chaos magic, I need something else.”
“Alright, then how would you three like to actually succeed in your objectives to rule Equestria?” Bjorn asked.
That piqued the trio’s interest.
“You mean you want to help us take over Equestria?” Cozy Glow asked, confused.
“You misunderstand,” Bjorn corrected. “Once we’ve cleared the rubble from the main door and deployed the jets and tanks, Utopia will be able to invade Equestria with or without you.”
“So, why even ask us that?” asked Cozy Glow.
“What Equestria did when they attacked us was an act of war,” Bjorn explained. “They have made it clear that they are not interested in peaceful negotiations. It’s either us, or them. What we are offering you is the opportunity to be on the winning side…”
The trio still did not seem all too convinced.
“…and as they saying goes, ‘to the winner goes the spoils.’ Queen Chrysalis, so long as you maintain friendly relations with Utopia, we will re-install you as the ruler of the Changeling Kingdom.”
Chrysalis had an evil smirk on her face at the prospect of regaining her rightful title.
“Lord Tirek, so long as you pledge to not attack any Utopian lands, you can absorb magic of all four of the Alicorns and do with it what you please.”
Tirek licked his lips at the prospect of regaining his once massive stature.
“Miss Cozy Glow, since you are still young, we can give you the finest education that Utopia can provide, as well as a job within our ranks upon completion of said education. Though, if you wish to pursue other endeavors, so long as they don’t include any untoward action on Utopian lands, we will not stop you.”
The prospect of being the only pony in existence to know the ins-and-outs of human technology did sound quite enticing to the young pony.
“In addition, we have no interest in ruling Equestria, even if we have to resort to invasion,” Bjorn explained. “However, if you three wish to continue your activities against Equestria once we are finished, then we can provide you with all the resources you want to ensure your success.”
The trio were curious before, now Bjorn had their attention.
“All we ask is that you heal Eris and tell us how you defeated the draconequus,” Bjorn finished.
As much as Chrysalis hated the idea of being beholden to another power, the opportunity to get her kingdom back seemed like too good an offer to pass up. She and Cozy Glow turned and nodded their heads to Tirek, since the conversation pointed to him being the main speaker for the three of them collectively.
"We will require some time to think over your proposal, but since you are forcing us to assist you, I guess we don't have a choice," said Tirek. "When do we start?"
"Will you be able to extract Eris’ magic in Utopia, since magic is rendered ineffective within its walls?" Felix asked.
"The process of absorbing the magic of another creature is not actually powered by magic,” Tirek explained. “It's more of a transfer process which does not require any medium whatsoever.”
"Perfect,” Felix responded. “And Discord?”
“We simply worked together and were able to catch him off guard with three powerful energy blasts,” Tirek explained. “Once he had been hit, he fell into a daze-like state, and during that time, I used a spell of my own design to absorb his magic and split it amongst the three of us."
"Well… that sounds way too simple," said Osas, "It's not that we don't believe you, we just need to make sure, so you'll have to make your statement once again when we've hooked you up to the lie detector."
"Lie… detector?" Cozy Glow in a nervous tone, which was easily noticed by everyone else in the room.
"Well yes, it detects lies with a one hundred percent accuracy by literally scanning the neurons in the brain themselves, but you shouldn’t have anything to worry about, unless of course you're lying right now?” Aladeen asked with a sly smirk.
"W- what?! Of course not!" Tirek said worriedly.
"Then like we said, nothing to worry about!" PM Jack stated.
"Chrysalis, prepare to have your mind blown!" Cozy Glow prepared Chrysalis as the trio and the world leaders made their way into Utopia. The changeling was the only one amongst them that had not yet been inside.
"I'm sure that a hole in the ground built by humans isn't going to be all that exciting. It's probably like every other diamond dog den, dirty and crude," Chrysalis replied.
"Well, you'll see…" said Cozy Glow, before changing the subject.
"Do you think they’re actually going to keep their end of the deal?"
"Probably not,” Chrysalis replied.
"Even if they do, would we actually not attempt anything against them afterwards?" Cozy Glow asked.
"Goodness, no," Chrysalis explained.
"We already did it with Discord,” Tirek explained. “This will be no different.”
"So, what do you think? Like every other diamond dog den?" Cozy Glow asked Chrysalis, "I hate to say I told you so, but - "
"Then don't say it," Chrysalis quickly cut her off.
The changeling was becoming shocked at just how technically advanced humanity was.
"How is this even possible?” she wondered aloud. “An entire railway underground… and within a building as well," she said with awe.
They eventually made their way towards the cryo chamber in which Eris was being held, surrounded by a bunch of scientists.
"Keifer, we're here!" Felix called to him as the group approached.
"Ahh, world leaders. It's a pleasure to have you," he greeted. "Oh, and Tirek and Cozy Glow, along with the changeling queen I've heard so much about! A pleasure to have you, Fraulein Chrysalis," he looked to Tirek, "And you've decided to help us save the girl, yes?"
"You would be correct," Tirek asked.
“Excellent,” Keifer said, eager to begin. ”When shall we begin the rejuvenation process?"
"As soon as you're ready, doctor. We can even start now, but I'm assuming you probably wish to record the process?" Felix asked.
"Yes, and we should have a geiger counter brought here as well, one that measures both harmonic and chaotic radiation," Keifer answered.
"Very well, get your things in order and will begin as soon as possible," Felix ordered.
"Yes sir, of course," Keifer turned around and faced his legion of scientists. "You two, get me a geiger counter that can measure both harmonic and chaotic radiation.”
"Yes sir," they both said before scurrying away.
"You there!" Keifer pointed to one of the scientists, "Get me a latte with steamed Austrian goat milk with precisely five teaspoons of sugar."
"Right away, sir," he answered nervously, before leaving.
"So, Lord Tirek, are you ready?" Felix asked, "Remember, once we extract her from cryostasis, she doesn't have much time before she succumbs to the radiation sickness. Also, as a reminder, remove about five percent of the radiation within her. Are we clear?"
"Understood," stated Tirek, "Just beware that the process of stealing one's magic is quite uncomfortable, but harmless. Though for such a small amount, it'll probably be over before she can even feel it."
"Alright that's fine," said Felix before turning his attention towards the secret service agents, "How long until Atticus gets here?"
"He got off the train a few minutes ago," said one of the agents, "He should be arriving right about… now." And he was right, Atticus entered the cryo chamber at that moment, flanked by two soldiers who were guarding him. He was still under house arrest, and would only be let out through a direct order from Felix himself.
"Felix," Atticus greeted with a nod.
"Atticus," Felix returned the greeting.
“You look like you're doing….. well. Presidency suits you,” he remarked.
"Acting President,” Felix corrected. “We haven’t had the election yet. I had to push the congress meeting to tomorrow because of all that's happened.”
"Look, after things cooled down a bit, I just want to apologize for my actions. I fucked up. I was blinded by sadness and worry and…" he was cut off by an impatient prime minister.
"Excuse me gentlemen, could you do this another time? We're all waiting, and Tirek is ready to begin," PM Jack said impatiently.
"Right… yes of course," said Felix, before turning his attention towards Tirek.
"You ready?" He asked, to which Tirek nodded.
"Then you may commence the resuscitation procedure.”
“Is it gonna be painful, dad?” Eris asked. The activity within the cryo chamber was at its all time peak, the busiest it had ever been since Utopia had been built. Scientists and doctors were running back and forth, and the most important people in the world were about to be frozen for the next one million years.
“No, no. It’ll be completely painless,” Atticus replied.
“But I’m being frozen right? I’ve heard frostbite is extremely painful,” Eris said worriedly. She was extremely nervous about being frozen, especially since she had been reading all about what it feels like and how painful it was to actually be frozen to death.
“This isn’t frostbite, and you won’t even feel the cold. The pod will be pumped with some knockout gas, and you’ll only be frozen once you’re asleep. There’s completely nothing to worry about,” said Atticus. He thought about something he could do to ease his daughter’s fears. “Hey, you know what? Since we’re about to be frozen for a million years, you’ll be a million and sixteen years old once you wake up,” he said.
Eris gave a light chuckle. “I’ll be older than you and mum,” she said.
“Well, I’ll be a million and forty years old, and your mother as well,” he replied. "You gotta get in now," he said, "Your mother's already frozen you know."
"One million years," - she said as she entered - "That's a long time, and it worries me."
"Everyone's worried. Your mother's worried, the battle hardened soldiers are worried, the scientists are worried, even I'm worried," Atticus gave her a warm smile, "But there's no reason to be worried. It'll be over in the blink of an eye." He zipped up the suit to cover her face, and the world went dark as she began to slip out of consciousness.
She then began to gradually regain consciousness, and as she did, she heard a few indistinct voices speaking around her. She was still way too groggy to make out what they were saying however, but she expected that they were probably doctors.
She then felt… something. Eris felt something happening. She couldn’t tell what it was since it was like nothing she had ever felt before. She felt like a part of her soul was being ripped out of her. It didn’t hurt, but it did feel extremely uncomfortable, and extremely worrying. She tiredly opened her eyes, pushing through the pain of not giving them time to adjust to the light, and immediately came face to face with a ‘man’ covered in red fur with two horns that was... sucking out her soul?!
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Gotta love how the trio think there gonna pull one over utopia at the end of this, could just sit back and have their former reputation mended for them while they get their wishes and empires back on a silver platter but no, just had to let pride come before the inevitable fall.
That last sentence is funny.
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Classic villain mentality. Even when offered everything they could ever want up on a silver platter, they still feel the need to rob the guy holding the platter.
I think that Cozy is too smart to fall into that trap though. She seems the type to value pragmatism over pride and after realizing how she could put her manipulation abilities to work to obtain massive amounts over power via the democratic process in utopia, I doubt that she would risk betraying them. And since Cozy is the first and so far only pony to ally with the humans, if she plays her cards correctly and gains enough trust from the humans, there is a VERY realistic possibility that after they defeat equestria, that they will Install her as ruler of equestria.
Question.
Do Celestia and Luna really control the Sun and Moon or are they merely symbolic representations of the Celestial Bodies in the story?
Surely the humans have information that the Princesses control the Sun & the Moon and sucking their power out would mean that the Sun and Moon won't move. Unless they brushed it off as unreliable information or they simply don't care anymore about the surface. Surely they think very thoroughly to trade the movement of the Celestial Bodies for Eris' life? Or they think that Tirek will use the stolen powers to keep the heavens in motion? Or all of this is just a bluff to trick the Legion of Doom to make their jobs easier and Utopia won't keep their end of the bargain?
Anyway, a fun little chapter here.
Why is he telling them this stuff?
He doesn't have to.
They don't need to know and readers already know
He at least could be very vague
He is right,the guards will
She is 16
So yeah that one person who suggested Eris and Discord hook up in some chapter's comments should keep it to themselves
NoobMaster69 should add the part that leaders say they Tirek will return that 5% that he got from Eris.
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They probably would make Equestria democratic.
The power will be spread out
It would make it harder and longer for a some faction,group,dictator,pony Hitler, to mobilize them to attack Utopia.
Sure Hitler did it when Germany after WW1 was diplomatic, but Utopia wouldn't be blind
Tirek I wish I could say I was surprised, as hard headed as bug horse is, I’m hoping she will avoid doing anything stupid… again. I’m curious to see Twilight and the girls reaction to what’s going on, I definitely want to see her realization that they aren’t gonna be busted out any time soon. Celestias gonna need a fall guy for the failed attack, I’m willing to bet Luna is going to be that sacrificial lamb. Not saying she’s gonna be killed or imprisoned, but I’m willing to bet she would be sat at the “kiddy table” while the adults plan their next move.
I don't think they will be mobilized for months.
Even then is there some Kingdom that has actually low or one at all enslavement of humans?
Maybe some other Kingdom that isn't part of the council ?
Maybe they could send diplomats.
I'm thinking about Diamond Dogs and the whole prediction/theory I had written previously in some comments
Whyyyyyyyyy do random characters just spew vital information at captives reeeeeeeee
hell yeah good chapter
I feel for the people who have to work with Keifer. The intellectual power of twilight but with a demanding personality.
The post wake up freak out. I have to agree with 11026601 though. Aside from that, this chapter was well worth the wait. It seems that Utopia has finally run out of patience with Equestria and have adopted the "enemy of my enemy" approach. Looking forward to next chapter.
He love the way he make it XD
The name of the scientist has to be Dr. Stone!
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Okay it wasn't smart when Donald Trump said you should watch nukes at tornado and it's not smart now. Bring up some points land-based tornadoes are stronger than tornadoes that come from the sea. And if they launch multiple tornadoes they won't be able to get their airships out of the hanger unless they're prepared to do some very dangerous maneuvers. That would cut down on their air power and launching a nuclear silo during a tornado is not a good idea either because of something goes wrong you're just going to blow up the area. And from my understanding there are two kinds of tornadoes Pegasus can create control tornadoes and uncontrolled tornadoes which are more dangerous cuz they can't control it. Plus they could do other stuff like Make it rain acid or hail all they would need is the materials to do so. And I'm pretty sure I use this example before but Luna kiss Make it rain asteroids over the base. All I'm saying is there's ways to maneuver the ponies don't have to be punching bags.
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Yes but 50 pegasi throwing tornadoes at the base constantly would be nothing to sneeze at. Plus most tornado comes from the ocean there are very few land tornadoes least serious ones. So America at least the upper part of America does not have to worry about them. I have had to run down on this with my training. Plus in some states the tornado in a jar is illegal because it has a chance of causing a land tornado.
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Her moving the stars only worked in canon because it never had to be explained.
It's just worked because it looked cool,etc.
But if she still controls the stars in this version, it will be explained and nerfed to fit the world.
How would you explain her moving stars that are farther away than's Sun, or even further away than magic?
It seems magic exists only on Earth and some distance around it and that's it.
It wouldn't make sense for magic to be that far into the space
Also it's a stupid move
It's like if Celestia decided to move Sun to achieve something similar
She will just kill ponies, she would just pull the asteroids to randomly crash down onto earth.
It will be like Thanos pulling the moon
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Also, they probably know humans at least have some prisoners
Also they have Grogar's bell and Mane 6
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You watched the episode Hurricane Fluttershy?
They wouldn't be able to pull that off.
-They would just kill themselves
-They would just collide with other tornadoes
-They can't completely control them
And the list goes on
Also funny enough this episode shows how fragile Rquestria's economy and ecosystem is
https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Hurricane_Fluttershy
Inside the library, Rainbow Dash shows the group of Pegasus ponies a cartoon film that explains how Cloudsdale requires rainwater to produce the rainclouds for Equestria.
They literally have a 1950s-style cartoon showing how water gets up to Cloudsdale.....if water can't do that normally....
50 ponies is minimum or even less than minimum to pull that off
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So what your saying is that this is all people need to have a chance at making tornadoes? Because this and similar is what you use to make tornadoes in jars.
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Actually I’m pretty sure it’s the other way around.
Don’t they have twilight helping with that?
Why only five?
What’s a simpler way of saying that?
Actually, he is when you think about it.
Are they out their minds?
Nevermind, they absolutely are.
I forgot about this but there's also another problem that humans have to worry about the tree of Harmony. Not only are there multiples of it ancient Grant enhanced Powers the people and create almost indestructible strongholds. It can easily tunnel underground and start destroying things.
P.s surprising that the humans would even make a deal with those three they're quite literally the most untrustworthy people you can make a deal with. Almost worse than phlegm and phlegm. Oh and I love this chapter
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They will just blow it up
Crystals aren't that strong if I remember right.
The obvious distance,time and how noticeable it would be doing this?
Magic won't work on humans and what they own.
Add to that floating and glowing targets in the air
And again
They will just blow it up too.
Crystals aren't that strong if I remember right too.
It was already shown that even Sombra could destroy the Tree
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1. Equestria made it clear they dont want peace, when i said "launch a nuke" i meant at the ponies
2. Even if tornadoes reach the human settlement thats just only a small camp outside of utopia. need i remind you utopia is literally seven kilometers underground
Now lets set the scene
A tornado is coming from a mile away, it is detected as soon as it is created because humans literally have spy drones. at the speed a tornado travels it would take around 2 minutes to travel a mile, in those 2 minutes an unmanned drone carrying a nuclear warhead could be deployed.
Now lets do a little research: The first plane to launch a weapon of mass destruction was enola gay. it could travel at a top speed of 200 miles per hour, enough to be faster than a tornado (tornadoes can go as fast as 60 miles per hour with the fastest going at around 70 miles per hour but most travel slower).
do you really think that a modern unmanned drone could not beat that speed?
Now im no mathematician but ive done my research and it seems that it would be no problem to launch a nuke to canterlot before a tornado destroys a simple camp/outpost
Also no, ponies cannot make acid rain, acid rain is a side effect of pollution, and even if they could make it rain acid i dont suppose ponies have a strong enough acid, and acid rain isnt gonna melt your arm if a few droplets fall on it
Also no, luna cannot control asteroids, she can control stars. stars are lightyears away meaning that even if she tried, she cant move stuff as fast as light and even if she could it would take years and even if it didnt she would just destroy the earth because stars are extremelly hot and big
Also yes, while there may be ways to make the ponies not be punching bags, when you start a war because your whole economy needs to enslave thinking, living creatures i think you deserve to be a punching bag and for your economy and society to collapse
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This is a stupid trope done to DEATH!!!!!
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Those three are still being naive f******* morons again! Do they have to be in the same chopping block like the rest of the stupid ponies, and other slaver races???!!
Maybe a nuke demonstration can FINALLY get though their very, VERY thick skulls NOT to betray/f*** with Humanity/Utopia!!!!!!
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1. Equestria made it clear they dont want peace, when i said "launch a nuke" i meant at the ponies.
Oh I thought you were talking about launching nukes at tornadoes but what you're talking about is way worse. And I would like to bring up the point that this was started by the humans they have not took any action to make the ponies believe that they come with good intentions. Imagine this for a second that in alien race popped out of the ground wherever you live and did the same things these humans did every country in the world would be in war with the aliens. We would probably be smarter about it but the same things the ponies did most likely humans would have done. And especially if they kidnap not only citizens but an actual leader. So saying that humans are the innocent party in this situation is 100% wrong. Any diplomat worth his salt would tell you the same thing."
2. Even if tornadoes reach the human settlement thats just only a small camp outside of utopia. need i remind you utopia is literally seven kilometers underground
I part of the military so I'm going to give you some knowledge. Utopia is underground in your correct but you know where the silos are above it. The missiles have to go through there first in the same reason they did not launch the missiles without moving the debris is the same reason they would not be able to launch missiles during our tornado because there's a chance that something can go wrong in your armed nuclear missile can go off in the silos or above the ground. This is why underground nuclear submarines are so important because launching from the water where there is barely anything that can go wrong is so important. And if something goes wrong all you lose is the sip and the crewman. This is one of the main reasons you would never launch a missile during a storm.
Also no, luna cannot control asteroids, she can control stars. stars are lightyears away meaning that even if she tried, she cant move stuff as fast as light and even if she could it would take years and even if it didnt she would just destroy the earth because stars are extremelly hot and big.
But you know what she can't control need yours or if he wanted to this take chunks or pieces and then starts hailing them towards the Earth see what the story a large area yes. But it would pretty much kill anything that tried to go against Equestria. And Celestia could this move the Sun closer to the Earth. This is not the first time I have had this conversation either. So every time someone says this I'm going to bring up this video.
https://youtu.be/YHqlTMxTZdk
Also yes, while there may be ways to make the ponies not be punching bags, when you start a war because your whole economy needs to enslave thinking, living creatures i think you deserve to be a punching bag and for your economy and society to collapse.
Okay I feel like we have been reading two two different books because the first humans do not give a shit about the original humans not only did they leave them to die they are willing to kill all of them this to kill the ponies if it comes down to it. This is something they said themselves. Plus there's a reason the humans are enslaved they didn't start off as slaves because they almost committed complete in other genocide of every other race is the reason they are enslaved. The economy is not based off of slavery being honest the economy doesn't even need slavery. In the original Three ponies were enough to keep up a farm of decent size by themselves because of magic I'm assuming the same kind of magic exist in this world. What the argument you should have been bringing up is if the ponies had two choices to kill every single last human or slavery. The ponies chose slavery. And before you start trying to take the moral high ground the first humans are willing to give three of the worst people in the whole TV show unlimited power Chrysalis is a tyrant. Keurig is at best a conqueror or barbarian. And cozy glow is a psychopath.
P.s forgot to mention this but they would have to destroy more than canterlot they would have to destroy every major city and cloudsdale so they would kill millions if not more doing so. So they would be like the first humans but even worse.
P.s.s and to bring up the point I have no problem with any of that it's this it's boring to see someone to be a punching bag without any fight back. That was the point I was trying to make not that they're going to win or they can turn the tide around but there's a smarter way to fight.
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This video doesn't prove anything you just said, both sun and moon are far away.
You understand that to use the sun as a weapon she would need to get it close to earth?
Do you honestly think that getting the sun close to one spot on earth won't affect the whole fucking world?!
Add to your equation the size and heat of the sun.
To Luna's throwing rock add that she doesn't have really any control over multiple rocks going thought the atmosphere at high speeds.
Also Gravity--combined with the asteroids' momentum from their launch/drag to earth can arch their trajectory to literally and completely miss the target.
She isn't throwing them in a straight line.It's not a sniper rifle.
Also a very very funny thing....
Moon is much closer than any star,if she could really drag a star to earth in a short time then........ that would need to travel at such high speeds to earth that if it would heat it ,it probably would destroy the whole planet.
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Before i answer to you please let me say no offense but you seriously need to learn some grammar, i had to read your reply multiple times to understand.
I actually read the story so let me give you some knowledge
Utopia is underground yes but if you actually paid attention you would have noticed that NO missile silos are on the surface. they had to go in hiding for a million years and they brought all their weapons of mass destruction down with them. if there were missile silos someone wouldve noticed way before the humans awoke. now if they didnt make missile silos along with utopia then why bring nukes if they dont have a means to launch them? Ill tell you why because the weapons of mass destruction they have travel by PAYLOAD not self-propelled means
Please learn some grammar it feels like you had a stroke writing the first bit of this part and i still dont understand what you mean
Remember when i said stars are lightyears away?
Let me spell it out for you: NOTHING other than light can move as fast as a photon because photons have no mass, just because you take a smaller piece of a star doesnt mean it is faster and even if she could move it as fast as light (which she cannot) it would take years
Read alt universe tag and realise that if what is shown in the video happened in the same universe as this story there would be serious consequences. Moving the sun that is at the center of the solar system that every planet orbits around like a pinball? sorry but i dont believe this video and/or argument are valid in this case, also another reason the video is invalid is because light takes time to travel the solar system (remember this happened in the same universe as ours just another version of it which means same laws of physics) so if twilight were to be moving the sun and moon as shown in the video it would take time before the change can be seen from earth. its a cartoon goddarnit, they take the liberty of breaking the laws of physics, the author does not
1. Utopians are NOT willing to kill every human slave in canterlot, im the one who suggested launching a nuke to canterlot
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Two things i have to say: the princess herself admitted that their economy would collapse without slaves and as soon as i read "in the original" your argument became invalid, this is not the original its an alternate universe where even applejack has slaves working at her farm
also: tirek, not keurig
I am not a historian so i couldnt point out any instances where what this story describes happened so in this case i do not have a counter argument but
Theres this thing called human rights umm i dont expect ponies to have them but they are enforced equally no matter what, if someone did, say, kidnap citizens and a world leader they would be killed but they would not be enslaved and have their human rights violated, rendering your argument invalid
why do you keep on trying to paint ponies as the good guys when they literally enslaved humans? just stop
As a tactician of war. May I advise using fighter planes along with tanks? As you know, Equestrian forces would very much like to send in the Wonderbolts and Pegasus to stop the tanks. And the earth ponies would dig tank traps if given the chance. My advice, use Hitler’s Blitzskerg attack before the Equestrians could set up proper defenses.
It would be a nice change of pace to see the other nations actually try diplomacy for once instead of a constant bloodbath. Also I love what's going on with Chryssi, quickly getting infatuated with human technology. Maybe we will start to see a change in her, wanting to learn more about humans and give up her desire to rule the changelings? Just wishful thinking.
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While that's logical its assuming they wouldn't get shredded by on-site AA guns or mobile replacements before air cover even arrived.
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They already tried several chapters ago with Equestria. At this point, Equestria is going to have to be the ones to propose diplomacy now since Utopia will likely assume them hostile until otherwise proven. Utopia realistically should reach out to the other nations that didn't participate in the attack once they learn of them. The gryphons, zebras, and others can still (potentially) be made peace with.
Edit: I just realized I misinterpreted your comment. Disregard my initial statement.
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Lol, I was about to say
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Yea that's one of the reasons they need the satellites in orbit asap. To figure out what the fuck is going on.
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They actually do have missile silos but they're covered in rubble...
Five percent is a little amount. Five percent of Ten Dollars is a small amount. Five precent of One Hundred Million Dollars....isn't so small an amount.
I remember back in the late 70s early 80s some accountant at some huge multinational company embezzled 0.05% from the company, slowly over time. Not five percent. Zero point zero five percent. He disappeared a millionaire and they only caught it because years later the US government went after the company for tax evasion. Not because of what the accountant did, but because of the companies underhanded crap. I don't think they ever found the guy.
My point is that five percent may be a small amount, or it could be bigger than the humans suspect.
The Monk
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part of the military bruh u are literally stealing valour
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really faking being part of the military shame on you
Okay I can tell you guys are so pro-human nothing I say whatever change your mind. Even up to the point where the first human has actually talked about killing everything on the planet if they don't agree with them. And magic in the story has been so underwhelming that I'm surprised three monkeys in a the trench coat haven't taken over Equestria. Twilight with a magic amulet was able to basically play ping pong with the sun and moon is not a big sign of how great the other two princess control over the moon and sun is of course it did not get closer but saying that they cannot make it get closer it's silly. I'm saying Luna can take one piece of the Moon and use it to Target Pacific area using her control she could force it down at Max speed this might ruin an area but it would not be enough to destroy the whole world. Insane Celestia could not use the sun's rays and Target in one place to make something like a solar strike is most likely optional why they would not do that for the simple reason they have had peace for a thousand years why would they need to do that and why would they cause such destruction to the actual planet they live on when they could fight the normal way and win. By the behavior of the first human and the inhabitants of Equestria this is going to end one or two ways that the first humans are going to rule over the world basically by military force doing whatever they want until the equestrians get tired of them or something bad happens to ruin the peace starting a world war leading to the genocide of the humans or the equestrians. And all this is going to happen because of a simple reason the first humans only care about humans and not even the humans that are in slavery no not them but only themselves. And the ponies and other races are too scared and hurt from the last time they trusted the humans leaving to their almost genocide. No peace talks whatever work between anyone because of the actions of both sides were two extreme. It's entertaining to read about but no way in hell this kind of stuff what happened because it would instantly start a war.
P.s if all the alicorns are dead they will have a pretty fucking tough time trying to control the Sun and Moon. Unless they can successfully turn Atticus daughter into a new discord. And pray that she's not crazy so she won't this cause havoc.
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Thing is human governments rarely intend to keep their promises
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Didn’t sombra like destroy it a few days ago in this story
This has been a great story, will we every see the view of theses events in the mind of the human slaves & are they really like the way the ponies describe them?
Also may I ask when the next update will be?
well the enemies of my enemies Is my friends right?
Btw your writing quality had skyrocketed this chapter is actually fun to read whole.
The weakness of long chapters like this and it is the same mistake that many writers does is they dragging the story too long. Admittedly I had done the same mistakes. But this is actually interesting to read
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Sir we're in an underground bunker
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why do you cling on saying that the princesses control the sun and moon? its a human universe, the sun doesnt move and the planet orbits it. not the other way around. ffs read the ALT universe tag
also: yes were fucking pro-human we are LITERALLY humans
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It's a full on brony that sides with the Nazi ponies
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1. Abbot is telling them this stuff because he likes how humanity's technological advancement shocks the ponies. He just takes a bit TOO MUCH pleasure in their disbelief at just how outmatched they are in that department. Essentially, xenophobe is gonna xenophobe.
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3. That last bit is from Eric' point of view, so while everyone else knows Tirek is just sucking out 5%, Eris doesn't.
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So, the way Abbot's character works is that he's basically a xenophobe. Explaining things like that is basically just him taking pleasure in the reactions the Equestrians have to humanity's technology. He takes sick pleasure from seeing ponies shocked faces when they realize just how [BEEP]ed they are on a technological level.
Remember, this is the same guy who withheld information about how the undesirable prisoners top the scientists will be executed because he wanted to see their reactions when they realize they're about to die. This is basically the other side of that: revealing information to show just how screwed you are and revel in their realization that they are smaller than they ever thought possible, like a kid taking amusement in stomping on ants.
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1. Yes, they do have Twilight helping. However, Tirek can do it inside Utopia, while Twilight can only do it outside of Utopia. Twilight was always just the backup plan. Remember, they only just STUMBLED upon Tirek during the Battle. So, once they found Tirek again, they went back to him because he was always the one to use that allowed Eris the most chance at life.
2. Basically, say that you have a cup, and it's capacity is 10 mL of water. Eris currently 15 mL of Chatoci radiation in her body. Tirek just simply extracts that extra 5 mL so that the radiation inside her can stabilize, just like it did with Discord, so it doesn't destroy her from the inside out.
3. Kind of. They aren't interested in ruling Equestria, so if they ally themselves with the Trio and just let them do it, then they don't have to worry about ruling Equestria, AND said rulers would be in their pocket.
Granted, there's always that chance of a backstab (which they will have to take into account), but they have a MASSIVE technological advantage to fall back on. Plus, once Equestria is soundly defeated, humanity will have a vested interest in making sure Equestria doesn't rise up to a position of strength again. So, providing resources to the Trio would keep Equestria weak and unable to challenge Utopia in any way Win their minds, at least.)
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I'm glad you liked the quality of the story improving. I volunteered my services to NoobMaster to edit his chapters, so that might be why.
Basically, the plotline is all him. Only he knows exactly how the story goes. I just give his writing an extra coat of paint and spruce things up a little. Change some dialogue here and there to provide some character if it needs it. For example, Abbot's characterization was mostly me. NoobMaster wanted an evil military guy, but I gave him a bit more depth and made him do things that helped convey that right away.